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funkywinkerbean

06-01-2005, 12:02 PM

So,

I am ready to take delivery from stock on hand, or wait a reasonable amount of time for deliery from "yet to be deliverd" inventory.

My purchase will be cash. I can buy today.

I have contaced three dealers in the area and all tell me that the price will be MSRP - no discount.

I realize the vehicle is brand new and people are willing to pay more but I would like a discount. Specifically, are there delers who give discounts and how much. I offered $2500 off MSRP and all three dealers said, "no way - no discount".

I live in Northern Florida so driving to Timbuktu to save $500 makes no sense.

BTW, I am seeking a White H3 base Package with Auto, Sunroof, Towing Package, Floor Mats. MSRP is about $32,500. (as an aside, I am now learning to ask what the dealers' "Document Fees" are since I have been burned in the past by a $200 Doc Fee inserted at the last minute.)

I read about "Suppliers Discounts" on this forum - is this something that applies to people who work for GM or what?

Any advice? Do I call the nearest dealer and just pay full price or is there a way to receive a decent discount?

Thanks in advance.

funkywinkerbean

06-01-2005, 12:02 PM

Hummer Guy

06-01-2005, 12:06 PM

[QUOTE]I read about "Suppliers Discounts" on this forum - is this something that applies to people who work for GM or what?[QUOTE]

GM employees qualify for GMS pricing, which is a greater discount than a GM Supplier discount. Check with your company so find out if you qualify. I know someone who is a nurse and they just found out last night they get the supplier discount. You never know.

funkywinkerbean

06-01-2005, 02:13 PM

I am an independent contractor - with my own company. Only business I do with GM is to watch their comercials on TV.

I reiterate, besides these "Insider" discounts, are ther any dealers who will take less than MSRP?

This will not keep me from buying, but I would rather not throw money away.

6 months ago I could not get any dealers to even talk to me about a discount on a GTO (but now you can get a $5K discount!) Then I saw that the Hummer was coming out and I have decided on an H3 (decidedly more practical!)

Actually, both of these vehicles represent some sort of mid-life crisis, I suppose, but at least with the Hummer I will get fewer speeding tickets!

Hummer Guy

06-01-2005, 02:41 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by funkywinkerbean:
Actually, both of these vehicles represent some sort of mid-life crisis, I suppose, but at least with the Hummer I will get fewer speeding tickets! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea, but maybe more tickets for driving where other vehicles can't go. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif As far as I know, there aren't any dealers giving any discounts if you don't qualify for the GMS or supplier discounts. This may change in a couple months, but the trucks are just too hot right now, and a lot of dealers are charging 2-3k over MSRP

Friguy

06-01-2005, 02:44 PM

Dealers do not have to give you any discounts right now because the supply of H3s cannot keep up with the demand. Until this changes dealers will charge MSRP or higher because they can. They know that there are a line of people right behind you that will pay those prices.

My suggestion is if you want a discount wait 3-6 months and then the dealers will be more flexible

funkywinkerbean

06-01-2005, 03:32 PM

Good advice.

The older I get, the more patient (boring..) I become.

I understand that a rental car company will offer Hummer H3s for rent (Avis?). This should afford me the opportunity to drive it for a few days and give it a good evaluation.

Thanks.

Hummer Guy

06-01-2005, 04:13 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by funkywinkerbean:
Good advice.

The older I get, the more patient (boring..) I become.

I understand that a rental car company will offer Hummer H3s for rent (Avis?). This should afford me the opportunity to drive it for a few days and give it a good evaluation.

Thanks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Check out my Hummer news blog -- I put a post on there a few days ago about Avis doing that...

06-01-2005, 05:04 PM

Starting today GM is offering GMS (Employee Discount) to the general public at participating dealers (for the month of June). So ask your dealer if they are doing it and if its available on the Hummer, GM says it is, but the dealer may say something else. And get them now, as im sure any stock will go fast!!!

killian

06-01-2005, 05:48 PM

Hummer Guy

06-01-2005, 06:21 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by D2:
Starting today GM is offering GMS (Employee Discount) to the general public at participating dealers (for the month of June). So ask your dealer if they are doing it and if its available on the Hummer, GM says it is, but the dealer may say something else. And get them now, as im sure any stock will go fast!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It is not available on the corvette or the H3 (and the H1 technically isn't GM) So any H2s in stock right now have that offer...we have about 70 right now ready to roll.

RiverRacerX

06-01-2005, 07:35 PM

Hummer Guy, what kind of deal is there on a H2 SUT LUX? I know MSRP is 57K a,d Edmunds shows them around 53K. What does the GM deal do for them?

Thanks

RT0870

06-01-2005, 07:47 PM

Forgive my lack of ability, but I cannot make heads or tails of the GMS discount that is being offered.

I followed the directions at this site - http://www.gm.com/employeediscount.do?cmp=JB_Offline - but I don't see the Employee Discount Price anywhere?

RiverRacerX

06-01-2005, 07:52 PM

Same here. It didn't look much different than Edmunds or Cars Direct. But my GMC buddy says it is huge! He sold 20 trucks yesterday alone because of it.

KenP

06-01-2005, 08:04 PM

Try this:

http://www.truedelta.com/input.php

Hummer Guy

06-01-2005, 10:14 PM

The easiest way is to find a VIN of a truck similar to what you want, maybe an online auction or something. Then any dealer can run that number and find what the GMS pricing is on it. Or call up a dealer and tell them to find a similar truck and run the numbers. I'd help ya' out if I was still at work. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

lexpro

06-01-2005, 10:21 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RiverRacerX:
Hummer Guy, what kind of deal is there on a H2 SUT LUX? I know MSRP is 57K a,d Edmunds shows them around 53K. What does the GM deal do for them?

Thanks </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mine was 58700 and i bought it for $49006...

RT0870

06-01-2005, 10:21 PM

Okay......here is the official press release regarding the GMS Discount:

FOR RELEASE: 2005-06-01

GM is Proud to Invite America to be Part of its Family

For the First Time in its History, GM Offers Employee Discount to Everyone

DETROIT - For the first time in its history, GM is offering its employee discount to everyone who takes delivery of a new 2005 GM car or truck from June 1 through July 5, 2005.

"Our employees are extremely proud of the company they work for and the products they build," said Brent Dewar, GM North America vice president of Marketing and Advertising. "In recent months there has been plenty of news about GM, but not enough said about our industry leading product line-up. We want to bring the focus back to what drives our business - great cars and trucks. This program gives everybody a chance to drive the vehicles that we drive and pay the price that we pay.

"It also is a great opportunity for America to experience high quality vehicles such as the Chevrolet Malibu, GMC Sierra HD and Chevrolet Suburban, which were the highest ranked Entry Midsize, Heavy Duty Full-Size Pickup and Full-Size Sport Utility Vehicle in Initial Quality in the recent J.D. Power and Associates 2005 Initial Quality Study or one of our 19 models that achieve at least 30 miles per gallon fuel economy on the highway," Dewar added.

The 'GM Employee Discount for Everyone' provides consumers with a great price right up front. Prices are prominently displayed on eligible vehicles at participating GM dealerships and take into account available rebates, but exclude taxes, title and dealer fees. Consumers also can confirm the price of a specific vehicle by entering the vehicle's VIN number on http://www.gmbuypower.com.
"We firmly believe that once consumers have the opportunity to drive a GM vehicle, they'll know what we, and millions of loyal GM customers, already know about the value represented by the cars and trucks that we build," Dewar said. "The 'GM Employee Discount for Everyone' provides very simple, very compelling prices for consumers and clarity regarding the final purchase price. We believe it will cut through the clutter of all the other offers currently in the market. This is what we mean when we say we want to offer a transparent total value proposition to our consumers."

The 'GM Discount for Everyone' program includes all 2005 GM cars and trucks, except for Chevrolet Corvette and GMC medium duty trucks and is compatible with most other incentives currently available.

The program will be supported by significant broadcast, print and online media featuring GM employees. Advertising will begin on June 3.

General Motors Corp. (NYSE: GM), the world's largest automaker, has been the global industry sales leader since 1931. Founded in 1908, GM today employs about 321,000 people around the world. It has manufacturing operations in 32 countries and its vehicles are sold in 200 countries. In 2004, GM sold nearly 9 million cars and trucks globally, up 4 percent and the second-highest total in the company's history. GM's global headquarters are at the GM Renaissance Center in Detroit. More information on GM can be found at http://www.gm.com.
Editor's Note: To obtain a copy of the GM Discount for Everyone television or print ads, please contact Jennifer Flowers, McCann-Erickson Detroit at 248-203-8260.

ALRIGHTY......I go to the site, and there isn't a window to input the VIN? I have been all over that freakin' site, and haven't seen any prices less than MSRP.

Could someone in "the know" tell me what the bottom line is, due to the GMS discount, on an 05 H2 SUV?

GEEZ....I'm starting to get "bowed up in the back".

mstams

06-01-2005, 10:35 PM

H2 SUV - Base $46,325, Adv. $48,349, Lux $49,717
H2 SUT - Base $46,396, Adv. $48,420, Lux $49,388

http://www.gm.com/employeediscount.do?brandId=ld&mode=byModel

firm

06-01-2005, 11:13 PM

So I called my dealer twice today to demand my invoice and VIN number. He tells me "Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. My wife is in the hospital, and my kid is sick." I felt like a major league ass. Anyway the H3's arrived in florida today.

HummerNewbie

06-02-2005, 12:41 AM

Firm,

That is great. Looks like you could be the first here from Florida to get one. Guess we should start seeing so here in Orlando before long. Does your dealer up there have their new facility completed? I guess that is a factor in the delivery.

Does anyone know how to find out what dealers are participating in the GMS Discount for everyone. Keep seeing "Participating dealers" and sure sounds vague to me.

firm

06-02-2005, 01:10 AM

they all should be participating. The more cars the sell the better for them. They could care less what GM charges. The dealers will probably try to make a little more on the side. It makes the H3's price more competitive, if you can buy an h2 for $6000 more.

funkywinkerbean

06-06-2005, 09:52 AM

First impression - H#:

I drove the base package model and the "Adventure Package"model.

This vehicle is small. If it were not raised 12 inches offits frame it would look like a small SUV like the Jeep Liberty.

No telescoping steeringwheel. No excuse for not having one.

No power seats available in cloth - the manual lumbar mechanism is inadequate.

Tire noise on the Adventure package is really loud.

Engine would be great for a Jeep Liberty but needs another 75 horses for this heavy vehicle. Why use a nice but underpowered motor on a 4800 pound vehicle?

Panic braking is, well, Panicky!

Body sway is significant, so dont try flinging this thing around - although the diminutive size makes you think you could.

Price is simply too high for what you get. Other SUV choices make the H3 purchase more a statement of individuality than value or functionality.

I am glad I had the opportunity to drive the vehicle. I am sure GM will sell a bunch.

GM is just plain stupid not to offer ALL of their vehicles for the "Employee Price" - yes, including the H3 and the Corvette.

Besides, just cutting their profit (increasing their loss) per vehicle will not reprise a company which has been out of touch for about two decades.

I will pass on the H3. But it would be fun to rent one on accasion!

HummerNewbie

06-06-2005, 11:33 AM

Funky,

I am surprise by your apparent total dislike for the H3 and GM in general http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Personally, I have not owned a GM vehicle in a number of years. Don't get me wrong, you are more than entitled to opinion and I am not discounting your input or trying to bash you because you don't like it very much. Just have a couple of questions. First, what do you drive now? If you are coming from a large SUV or truck that would explain you thoughts on the size. If you are driving a luxury sedan, that would explain the tire noise issue. Also, does the vehicle you driving now have a telescoping steering wheel? I personally do not think I have had a vehicle in at least 15 years that had one. Maybe I have and just don't recall because I never used it anyway. I am just surprised that you would expect it. I am surprised by your impression of the H3 as it is so different than most of the posts here and may completely be because of what you drive now. I will have to reserve my impression of until I actually get to see on other than in photos. At that time, who knows, I may agree with you completely but hope not http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Thanks for your thoughts on it though.

H3 Builder

06-06-2005, 03:14 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Engine would be great for a Jeep Liberty but needs another 75 horses for this heavy vehicle. Why use a nice but underpowered motor on a 4800 pound vehicle? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've got a 2003 Silverado reg. cab 4.3 V6 4X4 Automatic. Curb weight is around the same as H3, I don't think mine is bad getting into traffic, merging, or passing and it has less HP than the H3. I'm not going to win any drag races with it, but I am more than pleased with its performance. If I were ready to buy today, I would buy with this engine.

Desert Dan

06-06-2005, 03:24 PM

Funky

I think the H3 is a great truck and this is coming from a Jeep guy.

Hey it's not a Rubicon but maybe the next best thing??

What other 4-door real SUV's are out there for the price??

Sure we all want more power but when gas gets above $3/gallon maybe the I-5 will look better??

I want to see a few road and off road tests and comparisons before I order mine!

funkywinkerbean

06-06-2005, 05:35 PM

Don't kill the messenger! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

More impressions: I got lots of stares and pointing from passersby... and the vehicle sits up high (above my truck) so you have a "Command Perspective".

Whatever vehicle I own will be used as my all around vehicle - perhaps the H3 would be more appropriate for the person who has multiple vehicles.

Also, in my opinion, the vehicle seems more complete with the step bar, and the adventure package (slightly larger diameter tires). Together, these items seem to help the appearance by "filling in" the void under the vehicle - you have to see it to understand. The more aggressive tires do make a lot more noise, though.

And there is a certain bizzarre "macho" appeal and attendant feeling of security based in part I believe on the military-esque nature of the vehicle.

HummerNewbie

06-06-2005, 05:42 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by funkywinkerbean:
Don't kill the messenger! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't worry, I won't http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Was just curious to learn more about what you are used to driving and if that had a factor in your impression of the H3. I will still have to see what my initial impressions are.

PARAGON

06-06-2005, 06:06 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by funkywinkerbean:
First impression - H#:

I drove the base package model and the "Adventure Package"model.

This vehicle is small. If it were not raised 12 inches offits frame it would look like a small SUV like the Jeep Liberty.

No telescoping steeringwheel. No excuse for not having one.

No power seats available in cloth - the manual lumbar mechanism is inadequate.

Tire noise on the Adventure package is really loud.

Engine would be great for a Jeep Liberty but needs another 75 horses for this heavy vehicle. Why use a nice but underpowered motor on a 4800 pound vehicle?

Panic braking is, well, Panicky!

Body sway is significant, so dont try flinging this thing around - although the diminutive size makes you think you could.

Price is simply too high for what you get. Other SUV choices make the H3 purchase more a statement of individuality than value or functionality.

I am glad I had the opportunity to drive the vehicle. I am sure GM will sell a bunch.

GM is just plain stupid not to offer ALL of their vehicles for the "Employee Price" - yes, including the H3 and the Corvette.

Besides, just cutting their profit (increasing their loss) per vehicle will not reprise a company which has been out of touch for about two decades.

I will pass on the H3. But it would be fun to rent one on accasion! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>It doesn't have a frig in it.

It won't do zero-60 in 3.9 sec.

Stopping is like.....stopping.

Just in case, it's sarcasm.

That's about as informed a review as a I have seen an individual make. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Why would you even bother to spend the time to type that junk? I hadn't realized that they put a 12 inch body lift on the H3. Also, since you made the comparison and view yourself as some messenger. Let me point to the error of your message. A picture speaks much more than words.

http://elcova.com/groupee_files/photo_albums/3/6/4/3641066421/2081092521_23206D3D9590F8AED0461BE8D4E157DA.JPG

killian

06-06-2005, 06:22 PM

Damn, that's a sweet lookin' H3!

...oh wait. That's mine!

wannabeH3

06-06-2005, 06:29 PM

IT GOT RUINED WITH AN APPLE STICKER!!!!!!

im just razzin ya

killian

06-06-2005, 06:55 PM

Enhanced! Not ruined, you PC lover....

HummerNewbie

06-06-2005, 07:02 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by killian:
Damn, that's a sweet lookin' H3!

...oh wait. That's mine! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMAO http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

RT0870

06-06-2005, 07:13 PM

killian

HA HA HA.....that's good stuff.

HoKC

06-06-2005, 07:18 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by wannabeH3:
IT GOT RUINED WITH AN APPLE STICKER!!!!!!

im just razzin ya </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually it just shows that he likes cool stuff in his house as well as outside. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

H3 Buyer to be?

06-06-2005, 08:00 PM

PC's are great, especially if you LOVE Viruses... :-)

Hummer Guy

06-07-2005, 12:58 AM

Nice pic..Never seen them side by side...

PCs for life! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

PARAGON

06-07-2005, 01:08 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummer Guy:
Nice pic..Never seen them side by side...

PCs for life! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>came from here:
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/2671031121/m/3641066421

funkywinkerbean

06-08-2005, 07:43 PM

It never ceases to amaze me. The concept of "Forum" seems to be lost on some of us.

Evidently, someone seems to think that any opinion that does resonate with their's is worthy only of disdain. Has narrowmindedness become a virtue?

In the words of the inimitable Bard:

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks".

"Hamlet", Act 3, Scene 2

PARAGON

06-08-2005, 09:45 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by funkywinkerbean:
It never ceases to amaze me. The concept of "Forum" seems to be lost on some of us.

Evidently, someone seems to think that any opinion that does resonate with their's is worthy only of disdain. Has narrowmindedness become a virtue?

In the words of the inimitable Bard:

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks".

"Hamlet", Act 3, Scene 2 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Is that self-reflection? I believe it to be ye that had the laundry list of items deemed by thee to be not included in a vehicle of it's price range.

There is difference between opinion and statement of fact. Try opinion on the whole next time and don't try to intermingle your obvious ignorant opinion with things you deem to be statements of fact.

Besides you chose to offer what you are calling your opinion which was completely critical but get disjointed upon criticism directed towards it.

"Hummer", Act like a child, Scene before.

firm

06-20-2005, 01:10 AM

David Karesh- I believe there is a $1000 discount this month.

KenP

06-20-2005, 03:58 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Michael Karesh:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mstams:
H2 SUV - Base $46,325, Adv. $48,349, Lux $49,717
H2 SUT - Base $46,396, Adv. $48,420, Lux $49,388

http://www.gm.com/employeediscount.do?brandId=ld&mode=byModel </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A friend of mine posted a link to my vehicle price comparison site (http://www.truedelta.com) earlier in this thread. Unfortunately, I neglected to included Hummer among brands eligible for employee pricing. This has been corrected.

I do have one issue, though. The prices I calculate for GMS are exactly $1,000 higher than those quoted above. This implies that there is a $1,000 rebate on the H2, but gmbuypower shows no rebate. So, anyone know whether or not there is a rebate on the H2 this month? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey Karesh. Start a new thread if the dolts don't answer. Welcome to the forum, Buddy.

usetosellhummer

06-20-2005, 04:47 PM

You can go crazy and try Idaho and small dealers all over the country but the savings after all the effort and transportation will not really add up. MSRP is as good as it gets till later this year or first of next. Remember the H2? A year later you could save 3-8 grand buying one at aution or used. Time = Money