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cmeinck
10-14-2005, 01:26 PM
I bought my H3 a few weeks back using GMID. Someone in the group mentioned that I paid higher than I should have. I just took a look at my invoice and it says Spiff-o-meter cash Included. I remember asking him and he just shrugged it off. Anyone know exactly what that is? Just curious?
cmeinck
10-14-2005, 01:26 PM
I bought my H3 a few weeks back using GMID. Someone in the group mentioned that I paid higher than I should have. I just took a look at my invoice and it says Spiff-o-meter cash Included. I remember asking him and he just shrugged it off. Anyone know exactly what that is? Just curious?
Bling
10-14-2005, 01:30 PM
cmeinck,
What options did you get and I will tell you the GMID price...
It is around 1% below invoice...
Did you log into gmbuyer.com and get the GMID sticker for the actual vehicle you purchased or did you 'trust' the dealer?
cmeinck
10-14-2005, 01:48 PM
Actually, most of those I added. My H3 was Lux package w/ Automatic, Power Sunroof, Chrome appearance package. It came with Dealer installed Chrome Tubular Assist Steps and Black Wrap Around Brush Guard.
J from the D
10-14-2005, 05:24 PM
'Spiff o meter' was basically a $1000 rebate the dealers could put on 20% of their inventory. The dealers had to choose the vehicles by a certain date. Once the deadline passed, GM would choose the cars FOR THEM.
You got lucky... good for you, buddy!
(it always pays to take delivery out of dealer stock.) http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
cmeinck
10-14-2005, 05:39 PM
Personally, I don't think I benefited from the "spiff o meter". I paid roughly $34k for my truck. MSRP was $35915 plus $1295 in dealer installed accessories. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with the deal I got, but still think I should have done better.
xburbman
10-14-2005, 06:27 PM
I don't know exactly but I've bought my last 2 vehicles with the GMS? GMID? discount. In '99 with the Suburban it was roughly 2-3% off dealer invoice. The '06 H3 I just bought was closer to 1-2% off dealer invoice...about $4k off MSRP.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cmeinck:
I bought my H3 a few weeks back using GMID. Someone in the group mentioned that I paid higher than I should have. I just took a look at my invoice and it says Spiff-o-meter cash Included. I remember asking him and he just shrugged it off. Anyone know exactly what that is? Just curious? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Bling
10-14-2005, 06:52 PM
cmeinck,
The GMID discount is 2% below invoice for the 2006 H3 (this includes any dealer added accesories that are not aftermarket). Just look at edmunds invoice cost and subtract 2%.
trading13
10-14-2005, 06:58 PM
My MSRP was 37050 and my actual with Gmid and taxes is quoted at 32915
cmeinck
10-14-2005, 07:10 PM
Well, I according to the last post I was hosed. I wasn't able to add the Chrome Tubular steps or Black Brush guard to Edmunds. However, I calculated the invoice to be 32,778. The other opions are $1295 MSRP + destination charge of $595).
I thought that dealers couldn't mess with the GMID?
cmeinck
10-14-2005, 07:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">My MSRP was 37050 and my actual with Gmid and taxes is quoted at 32915 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
MSRP (with dealer installed options) $37210
Price with tax, inspection/title/license fees was $37083.
For those who have seen the movie Die Hard, "How ya feelin' in there? Pretty f'in unappreciated Al".
Bling
10-14-2005, 09:02 PM
Nah - you live in NY and I am sure the tax rate is pretty high. Trading must live in a tax free car state.
trading13
10-14-2005, 10:53 PM
Damnit I thought that sounded too good. My original quoted price when I ordered was 32515 and the "final price" my dealer gave me this week was 32915. Hell I dunno how much I'm paying. I'll let you know this week when I pick it up. My salesguy told me they couldn't mess with GMID and has been willing to break down his numbers from invoice with the numbers I expected from edmunds. This is his first GMID, I'm not sure he knows how much I'm paying.
Bling
10-14-2005, 11:24 PM
trading,
If you have the GMID you can log into gmbuypower.com and see the EXACT GMID sticker (just like the window sticker) for the vehicle since it will be under the dealers name. If you can't I can look it up for you.
Bling
10-14-2005, 11:26 PM
If anyone is looking for a GMID price, I can look it up. Need color, delear name/location, and last 4 digits of VIN.
trading13
10-15-2005, 02:33 AM
where would I look up this info on gmbuypower? I don't see buttons/links for that.
f5fstop
10-15-2005, 10:26 AM
unless GM has drastically changed their pricing strategies, GMID is not 2% below invoice, since GMS is 2% below invoice. GMID is supplier discount. my GMS on the h3 was 2% below invoice and GMS is a better discount than GMID, since GMS is actually for employees.
according to the sheet i just pulled up on GM's system (and not GM buypower or Edmunds), GMS (employee discount is 12.5% (+/-.5%), GMID is 8% (+/- .5%)and invoice is 10% (+/- .5%).
This correlates with my invoice on my H3.
Edmunds is noted to have some information that is incorrect.
Hummer Guy
10-15-2005, 03:46 PM
The dealer may have tried to get you on the accessories that weren't on the truck from the factory...since those are not included under GMID...
Send me the last 8 on your VIN# and I will get your exact GMID price.
yat74
10-16-2005, 03:15 AM
Hey HoKC, can you get the GMID price of my vehicle. I have the vin#. I used a GMS here in PA and I think I may have gotten hosed. My quote was for $39545 and got only $3475 off with GMS.
chromeless
10-17-2005, 04:28 PM
If you use GMS to buy the vehicle do you get a discount on the extended warranty? Is there an employee price for the extended warranty? Also what have you all spent on you extended warranties? I went to gmpricing.com and printed out a sheet with employee price listed for all options, am I correct in that this is the GMS price? I ask for if the dealer tries to get me to pay more I know I am getting screwed.
4churchill
10-17-2005, 05:15 PM
exactly...spiff o meter wss the way GM ended the employee pricing sale.....we picked cars prior to sale and had 1k rebates on them....those coupled with current rebates and dealer cash and the employee pricing landed some of our customers crazy deals on all of our lines (except hyundai)
I got quoted with my GMID.
MSRP: 37,170.00
w/GMID+destination: 33,445.00 + 565.00 = 34,010.29
My question is, this excludes tax & license, right?
cmeinck
10-17-2005, 09:42 PM
That's exactly what I paid - give or take a few bucks. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
trading13
10-17-2005, 11:23 PM
Update: My H3 got here today (took 4 weeks 4 days from order date). My MSRP is 36340 (couldn't wait for marker lights and crossbars) My price with GMID is 32944 plus 249 for can't remember, title maybe plus 2503 for Arizona taxes plus 503 for license I think. Total 36201. Without GMID it would have totaled 39590 So I'm pretty freakin happy about that. I saved 3389, thanks to the person here who knows everything. Now I just have to wait til tomorrow dangit. I don't get why they call and tease you by saying its here but you can't have it til tomorrow!
trading13
10-17-2005, 11:25 PM
ps Omar, I'm really betting no on that, but sometimes I'm wrong.
I'm about to close a deal with someone for a H3, and I'm trying to get the Supplier Price. Is it possible for a non-GM employee or related family to get an authorization number for the GMS price or employee price? It's about another $1,500 below the Supplier Price. Also, I'm still looking for a GMID number. Can anybody help me or at least point me in the right direction?
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