Towing need advice on purchase of travel trailer [Archive]

drmiles

01-14-2005, 01:15 PM

Looking to buy a travel trailer. The Trailer dealership says my hummer can pull anything without trouble. Book says 6,800 lbs.

Lite weights start @ 4,500 -6,800 dry weight.
Nicer trailers dry weight start @ 6,800 lbs and up.

Can I pull a 7,000 lb trailer loaded with water and food?

How much difference would there be in pulling 7,000 lbs and 9,000 lbs ?

Looking @ Thor Jazz vs R-vision Trail Cruiser,
(heavy 7,000lbs vs 4,800lbs)

Jerry

drmiles

01-14-2005, 01:15 PM

drmiles

01-14-2005, 01:15 PM

PARAGON

01-14-2005, 02:06 PM

Jerry,

Personally, I've never pulled a travel trailer with my H2 but manufacturers go to great lengths to "balance" travel trailers so that they pull well. All of those Jazz's have a tongue weight in the 700lb range. If you have rear air suspension, this shouldn't be a problem for you. If you get some electric brakes installed and have a good controller, IMO, you can pull these w/o much problem.

Of course, the H2 is specified from GM with a maximum GCWR of 14K lbs. and this is the number that determined the trailer weight rating. The ratings from GM does not take the air suspension into account. These numbers are the safe numbers GM published and, obviously, you can pull more than 6,800lbs w/o much trouble.

I would suggest getting a good brake controller installed and then going to the dealer and test pulling a few of the trailers to see what you are comfortable with.

drmiles

01-14-2005, 02:33 PM

Brake controller and Equilizer hitch are a must,and I have air suspension. But what about the Tranny, and transfer case pulling all that weight?

My transfer case had to be replaced after a trip towing a 3600 lb trailer @ 90 mph, about 400 miles. Not sure if its releated or coincedence.

Steve 2

01-14-2005, 02:47 PM

I am pulling an R-vision Trail-lite 30 foot trailer. The trailer loaded weighs about 6500 lbs loaded. I have an equalizer hitch and a Prodigy brake controler, I highly recommend both especially the equalizer hitch with sway control. I have pulled the rig about 800 miles so far in Florida and southern Georgia in 90 degree temperatures. The truck pulls like a dream on flat ground. I keep my speed down to 60-65 mph. I average (believe it or not) 9.8 to 10 mpg. The only negative I noticed is the tranny temp goes up to about 200 degrees. I was told by two service reps from 2 different dealerships not to worry, the temps are normal. Good luck with the purchase maybe we will meet on the road.

PARAGON

01-14-2005, 03:28 PM

The transmission is fine. It's the same heavy duty version that is used on the 2500 series trucks that have a 6.0L in them. The temp increase is normal when pulling and it has it's own cooler.

I have not read or heard anything negative about the Borg-Warner transfer case.

An equalizer hitch is not necessary if you have the air suspension. They serve the same purpose. The weight distribution design will not be utilized (no weight on the bars) because the truck will keep the rear end level. Sway control, on the other hand would be great in helping reduce the effects of wind on the trailer. You can get a simple sway control setup without having to pay for the not needed equalizer setup.

drmiles

01-14-2005, 03:47 PM

Thanks, going out to test pull today..

PARAGON

01-14-2005, 04:07 PM

Let us know what route you end up going.

drmiles

01-15-2005, 12:55 AM

Couldn't decide on a trailer. Have decided not to try the 7500 lbs and heavier.

Now trying to keep the UVW (unloaded vehicle weight) below 6,500lbs. Sure narrows the selection. Lite weights have lite weight construction cheap feeling, but lite. Good sturdy oak is heavy. Tried going shorter, but you loose the private bedroom.

Really like the Sportsman 29', model 2903, 6,080 lbs dry weight. But no veiw out the back, oh well keep looking.

Big Z

01-15-2005, 05:30 AM

Dig out your manual and read the ratings. Stay away from the 6000 pound loaded rig, and you might enjoy it a little! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Don't go over the gross combined weight rating!http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And search the site about towing, there's some good info.

Steve 2

01-16-2005, 04:54 PM

We will be taking a few trips from Florida. first up to North Carolina, around July. The big one will be from Palm Beach county accross the south to New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, Arizona and who knows where else. In the interim we will be traveling around Florida, west coast and the keys primarily. Being retired I can go anywhere for as long as I like. By the way my truck does not have an air compressor so the equalizer hitch was needed.

JMV1210

01-19-2005, 02:42 AM

Attached is a picture of the info on my box trailer, based on all I have read on the forum, I assume GVWR (7000 lb) means it’s over weight for the Hummer? What I don’t understand is how this trailer weighs almost as much as the H2…. That is if I am reading the label right….

Big Z

01-23-2005, 02:09 AM

If your going to tow, whatever, be informed! here's some good info!

http://rvtowingtips.com/story.htm

http://www.rvtowingtips.com/

Dug

01-23-2005, 11:27 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by JMV1210: What I don’t understand is how this trailer weighs almost as much as the H2…. That is if I am reading the label right…. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

JV- That tag says what the trailer is capable of hauling "7000" lbs. , not how much it ways . Its saying each axle can haul 3500lbs. , so the trailers total capacity is "7000"lbs. minus the suspended weight which is everything above the axles. Trailers own weight above the axles is probably around 1000lbs. . So you can approxiamatly hual 6000lbs on the trailer deck and your total gross weight will be 7000 lbs. which is all it is recommended for. Doug

Superman

01-28-2005, 05:37 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:

An equalizer hitch is not necessary if you have the air suspension. They serve the same purpose. The weight distribution design will not be utilized (no weight on the bars) because the truck will keep the rear end level. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I disagree wholeheartedly. Towing a heavy trailer will eat through a limited slip as fast as anything you can do. The weight distributing hitch takes the weight off the axle where as the air suspension just compensates with stiffness. I would use the weight dist setup every time if you ever plan to wheel that thing.

Superman

01-28-2005, 05:43 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Dug3x3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by JMV1210: What I don’t understand is how this trailer weighs almost as much as the H2…. That is if I am reading the label right…. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

JV- That tag says what the trailer is capable of hauling "7000" lbs. , not how much it ways . Its saying each axle can haul 3500lbs. , so the trailers total capacity is "7000"lbs. minus the suspended weight which is everything above the axles. Trailers own weight above the axles is probably around 1000lbs. . So you can approxiamatly hual 6000lbs on the trailer deck and your total gross weight will be 7000 lbs. which is all it is recommended for. Doug <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

GVWR means gross vehicle weight rating. It is a function of adding the two axle ratings together (manufacturers fudge this for registration purposes) and it represents the vertical load that the axles are capable of carrying. It has nothing to do with a trailer, it is payload only.

The trailer weight that you can pull is your GCWR: gross combined weight rating. It should be listed in your owners manual.

edit: I see, I was looking at that like it was the vehicle tag. You still need to look at what you have available to you. Do not evceed your GCWR in your owners manual (if you get in a wreck, your ins co. may shut you down) and pay attention to the hitch rating (on the frame). I would be surprised if your frame hitch is rated that high without w/d. most are not.

Superman

01-28-2005, 05:55 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Dug3x3:
Trailers own weight above the axles is probably around 1000lbs. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you ever get weighed (which I have been, but on a commercial basis, it will probably never happen to you) they throw the scales on the ground so figure an addtl 500 lbs at least for the axles.

Dug

01-28-2005, 10:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Superman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Dug3x3:
Trailers own weight above the axles is probably around 1000lbs. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you ever get weighed (which I have been, but on a commercial basis, it will probably never happen to you) they throw the scales on the ground so figure an addtl 500 lbs at least for the axles. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Superman - Yes, i should have told him to add the axle weight into the equation in case he gets weighed. I was just giving him a low down on what the trailer tag meant. Doug

PARAGON

01-29-2005, 09:16 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Superman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:

An equalizer hitch is not necessary if you have the air suspension. They serve the same purpose. The weight distribution design will not be utilized (no weight on the bars) because the truck will keep the rear end level. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I disagree wholeheartedly. Towing a heavy trailer will eat through a limited slip as fast as anything you can do. The weight distributing hitch takes the weight off the axle where as the air suspension just compensates with stiffness. I would use the weight dist setup every time if you ever plan to wheel that thing. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, I would have gladly left this inane post alone had you not shown more of your ignorance in other threads. I have towed trailers with my 4WDs for 20 years and have never heard of the stupid comment that "Towing a heavy trailer will eat through a limited slip as fast as anything you can do." With air suspensions, the tow vehicle has no sag, so you would have to load up the weight distributing hitch bars above flat, which would cause a very unstable ride. WDhitches utilize the rear-end sag of the vehicle to accomplish their goal, with the air, there is no sag.

And yes, I have personal experience with this. In the years that these hitches have been out, I have personally not encountered a situation where these hitches were beneficial with exception to the ones with sway control. I make sure that I have a tow vehicle that can handle the load well enough for the distance and conditions in which I am towing.

DennisAJC

01-29-2005, 09:29 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Superman:
Towing a heavy trailer will eat through a limited slip as fast as anything you can do. The weight distributing hitch takes the weight off the axle where as the air suspension just compensates with stiffness. I would use the weight dist setup every time if you ever plan to wheel that thing. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Super,

We may disagree with the Rubicon and the H2 http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, but word for word, that's exactly what the guys at GM told me in regards to towing my boat.

PARAGON

01-29-2005, 09:49 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Superman:
Towing a heavy trailer will eat through a limited slip as fast as anything you can do. The weight distributing hitch takes the weight off the axle where as the air suspension just compensates with stiffness. I would use the weight dist setup every time if you ever plan to wheel that thing. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Super,

We may disagree with the Rubicon and the H2 http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, but word for word, that's exactly what the guys at GM told me in regards to towing my boat. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Awww! Dennis, shut up. A boat hardly has the tongue weight to even matter....nice try though.

DennisAJC

01-29-2005, 09:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
Awww! Dennis, shut up. A boat hardly has the tongue weight to even matter....nice try though. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

I'm just stating what the pros have told me. Obviously Super is correct on the issue.

As to my boat, I figured you knew with all your infinite sluething techniques what kind of boat I have.

It would be grossly misleading of you to say tongue weight doesn't matter.

Dug

01-29-2005, 10:04 PM

Now that paragon and dennis have shown there difference with supermans comment , i'd like to agree too. I think if you have the air suspension you can leave your weight transfer bars home. As long as you are hauling reasonbly in the h2's gcvw . I am in the heavy hauling business , and occasionally we haul skid steers and mini excavators. So instead of taking a tractor and lowbed I will take a pickup or the h2 with the small equipment trailer. I would rather use the h2 if wifey isnt gone with it , because it kicks ass on my pickup which is a chevy 2500HD. The h2 handles the weight excellent and rides like a charm, I couldnt believe it and never thought of the air suspension as anything valuable until i hauled our 32' camper one weekend and noticed it towed it twice as good as my pickup which i had used to bring the camper home from the dealership and was riding about dead x. Since that weekend i have used the h2 to haul all kinds of stuff and the air suspension is the cats ass. They should offer it in the HD model pickups. Doug

DennisAJC

01-29-2005, 10:11 PM

Dug,

Bottom line is, I never take solid advice from anyone on the internet. Usually I'll go to the pros. GM service department made the same recomendations as Super only because the word, "WARRANTY" was involved.I have this thing with saying,"Will it be covered under warranty?" http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I'll listen to the pros. It's unfortunate that Super was correct. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>A boat hardly has the tongue weight to even matter <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Oh, it matters.

drmiles

01-29-2005, 10:18 PM

Ok heres the way it is.

I purchased Cedar Creak 27LRS Weight 6500 - 7500 depending on whether you believe the sticker in the trailer or the brochure.

Any way pulling on flat ground at 65mph no problem 3rd gear 2500rpm no strain.
Pulling on slight incline only able to maintain 60mph and not downshift to 2nd gear. Over passes able to maintain 50mph any faster and the tranny downshifts to 2nd and 4000rpm. (note I have 38" tires which steals some of my torque)

The equilizer hitch did help, if you load the rear end with the door open the air bags want inflate and you can adjust so that there is less weight on the tongue. (you can over tighten and lift the rear of the hummer which resulted in a bouncy ride.) I choose to use the equilizer hitch because the torsion bars reacts to the bumps in the road faster than the air bags can inflate and deflate, also reducing the work on the compressor

Will keep yall updated, have another trip planned superbowl weekend (yuk! hope the TV reception is good in Huntsville) Pics to follow camera suffered a fall and no longer works.

Jerry

PS any Suggestion as to where I can get a supercharger installed in Houston, TX

PARAGON

01-29-2005, 10:22 PM

Dennis,

Ok, I looked up your boat and trailer. The pic was hard to come by but I finally found it.

DennisAJC

01-29-2005, 10:24 PM

LOL, nice try Paragon. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Hey, nobody is perfect. We're all wrong from time to time. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dug

01-29-2005, 10:42 PM

Dennis - I noticed your from B.C. . Have you ever seen or heard of this company or seen there two wheel drive trail bike?

Dug

01-29-2005, 10:44 PM

Dennis this is the bike . The one on the left 1970'ish.

DennisAJC

01-29-2005, 11:05 PM

Dug,

Are those the 2 wheel drive bikes? I've seen one or two but I never knew it was made here.
Are we neighbours?

Got any action pics?

Dug

01-29-2005, 11:18 PM

Dennis-
no were not neighbors , i live in northeast united states . In Maine . The trail bike on the right is a Rokon they are made in New Hampshire , U.S.A.. And the yellow bike on the left is a "Trail Partner" they were made in B.C around 1969-70 era. I have three of those trail partners from B.C and have never seen anymore and cant find anyone that has ever heard of them. I have started a small business out of a hobby for these two wheel drive bikes . I have copied some of the features of the trail partner and are just getting some frames built now . I will be selling them in the summer of 05. They will compete with the rokon company. Seeing you were from B.C. , i thought maybe you might have heard of the company that made them or seen one by chance.

Dug

01-29-2005, 11:22 PM

action pic-

DennisAJC

01-29-2005, 11:26 PM

Sweet!

Give me a PM if you need me to dig around for some info.

Dug

01-29-2005, 11:26 PM

action pic. C:\Documents and Settings\Doug\My Documents\My Pictures\rokon lunch

Dug

01-29-2005, 11:35 PM

computers suck

Yetti

01-30-2005, 12:59 AM

those are some neat old bikes. do you have any pic's of the other two you have.

Dug

01-30-2005, 11:34 AM

Yes- i'll find some pics of the other 2 bikes. The pic of the wheelie isnt me , its the person i bought them from . The second bike is stripped down and at a fabrication shop here in town . They are the ones building my frame for the new bikes i'm building. These bikes came in 3x3 version also, they had three tires in a row , all that drove and they had a three wheel drive atc style also . Heres the three in a row pic. and i'll post the atc pic later when i take one of it. Doug

Yetti

01-30-2005, 01:06 PM

That is the crazest trike I have ever seen.
If it could float it would like half an Argo.

Kevin B

01-30-2005, 01:10 PM

That three wheeled bike is cool. What a pig! Must be fun in tight turns http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

Oh, BTW, looks like your thread got hi-jacked http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif. Beware of the thread pirates!!

Kevin B

01-30-2005, 01:50 PM

originlly posted by drmiles:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>(note I have 38" tires which steals some of my torque)
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

OH MY. Are you running 38s with stock gears and components ie: brakes, roters, joints and arms?

PARAGON

01-30-2005, 02:00 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
I'm just stating what the pros have told me. Obviously Super is correct on the issue.

As to my boat, I figured you knew with all your infinite sluething techniques what kind of boat I have.

It would be grossly misleading of you to say tongue weight doesn't matter. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You must still be kidding. Towing a trailer eats through a limited slip differential faster than anything else? Come on Dennis, you said your "experts" were the GM techs at the dealership. And no where does any manufacturer stress to use weight distribution to be covered under warranty. If you are worried about warranty you keep your gcwr under 14K lbs and in doing that you will not generally have a properly loaded trailer with a tongue weight of more than 600-700lbs. So, in theory if the weight is transferred to the front tires of the tow vehicle, the amount it is negligible at 70lbs of load or less.

What it boils down to is that weight distribution is only really useful with heavy tongue weights. First you should not be overextending the towing ability of the H2 to begin with and to get to the weights where weight distribution systems come into play, your are doing exactly that.

Now with rear air, it's even more complicated. Someone pointed out that they could load the trailer with door open so that the rear air wouldn't kick in. Well this would bind the system needlessly and make the tow extremely unsafe due to fishtailing. You might can find a fine balance between the weight distribution and the rear air, but that system is no longer adaptable. Change the dynamics of the trailer load or the load in the H2 and it screws up the fine tuning that was done, all for no real improvement in safety or handling.

So, on vehicles with air suspensions, not only is weight distribution not necessary, it can be hazardous since, in effect, the two systems will be fighting against one another instead of working in conjunction.

drmiles

01-31-2005, 12:08 AM

Yes running stock components except for the tie rods.. Trying to decide if I should regear the diffs or supercharge the engine!!!<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by N2ITNSD:
originlly posted by drmiles:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>(note I have 38" tires which steals some of my torque)
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

OH MY. Are you running 38s with stock gears and components ie: brakes, roters, joints and arms? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

drmiles

01-31-2005, 12:17 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DennisAJC:

Now with rear air, it's even more complicated. Someone pointed out that they could load the trailer with door open so that the rear air wouldn't kick in. Well this would bind the system needlessly and make the tow extremely unsafe due to fishtailing. You might can find a fine balance between the weight distribution and the rear air, but that system is no longer adaptable. Change the dynamics of the trailer load or the load in the H2 and it screws up the fine tuning that was done, all for no real improvement in safety or handling.

So, on vehicles with air suspensions, not only is weight distribution not necessary, it can be hazardous since, in effect, the two systems will be fighting against one another instead of working in conjunction. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not true, the idea of the torsion bars on the equilizer hitch is to remove excess tongue weight. Not to remove all weight off the hitch. It also prevents excessive weight from being shifted to the tongue when traveling down bumpy and uneven roads.. If properly loade you can keep the tongue weight to the ideal weight and the air bags don't have to air up as much, or hold as much weight. Also the air bags cannot compensate for bumps and sudden shifts of weight as you travel down the road @ 60 mph.

DennisAJC

01-31-2005, 03:12 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by drmiles:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:

Now with rear air, it's even more complicated. Someone pointed out that they could load the trailer with door open so that the rear air wouldn't kick in. Well this would bind the system needlessly and make the tow extremely unsafe due to fishtailing. You might can find a fine balance between the weight distribution and the rear air, but that system is no longer adaptable. Change the dynamics of the trailer load or the load in the H2 and it screws up the fine tuning that was done, all for no real improvement in safety or handling.

So, on vehicles with air suspensions, not only is weight distribution not necessary, it can be hazardous since, in effect, the two systems will be fighting against one another instead of working in conjunction. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not true, the idea of the torsion bars on the equilizer hitch is to remove excess tongue weight. Not to remove all weight off the hitch. It also prevents excessive weight from being shifted to the tongue when traveling down bumpy and uneven roads.. If properly loade you can keep the tongue weight to the ideal weight and the air bags don't have to air up as much, or hold as much weight. Also the air bags cannot compensate for bumps and sudden shifts of weight as you travel down the road @ 60 mph. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks Jerry.

PARAGON

01-31-2005, 03:28 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by drmiles:
Not true, the idea of the torsion bars on the equilizer hitch is to remove excess tongue weight. Not to remove all weight off the hitch. It also prevents excessive weight from being shifted to the tongue when traveling down bumpy and uneven roads.. If properly loade you can keep the tongue weight to the ideal weight and the air bags don't have to air up as much, or hold as much weight. Also the air bags cannot compensate for bumps and sudden shifts of weight as you travel down the road @ 60 mph. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Now, I do take offense here. What exactly is the comment of mine you are referring to as being not true.

You have made my point greatly. The object of torsion bars is to remove EXCESS tongue weight. With the H2, you either have the load improperly loaded or overloaded simply due to the GCWR.

And your comments about the air suspension is way off base. The air adjusts to the weight to keep the body of the truck level. It does not turn on and off through the course of driving from bumps and dips in the road. No more than it does that w/o a trailer. The system is not an instantaneous reponse, it is strictly for rear leveling. So that comments is just not apart of this.

I am tired of beating a dead horse on this issue. Do what you guys want to do, it's your stuff.

DennisAJC

01-31-2005, 03:40 AM

Oh give it up man! Must you be right every single time?

OK, OK, YES, Thanks Paragon. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

HeimenHummer

01-31-2005, 04:10 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
Dug,

Bottom line is, I never take solid advice from anyone on the internet. Usually I'll go to the pros. GM service department made the same recomendations as Super only because the word, "_WARRANTY_" was involved.I have this thing with saying,"Will it be covered under warranty?" http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I'll listen to the pros. It's unfortunate that Super was correct. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>A boat hardly has the tongue weight to even matter <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Oh, it matters. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I get a similar question given to me when my dealership saw me towing my boat. Not as big as your(Is that a 35footer?). They told me to make sure my set-up was proper or warranty issues could arise. Nice boat Dennisaj.

DennisAJC

01-31-2005, 04:20 AM

Thanks Hammer,

It's a 32 footer Bayliner.

In the end, I hired a towing company to tow it to dry dock across town. It's a bitch to maintain and it was sitting there for over a year. Hopefully we'll spend some time on it this summer.

Welcome to the Forum. Post pics of yer beast.

KenP

01-31-2005, 04:27 AM

Happiest day of a boat owner is when they buy it. Or is it when they sell it? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

DennisAJC

01-31-2005, 04:31 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by KenP:
Happiest day of a boat owner is when they buy it. Or is it when they sell it? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

For $135,000.00 CAN, You can have it Ken! I'll even throw in a DVD player fer yer porn. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Twin 5.7 engines, loaded w/ its own generator, air cond/heat, sep. shwr in head, 2 staterms, full enclosed bridge, inflatable mounted w/ Sea Wise w/ davit & 8hp O/B, Sea-B-Que

drmiles

01-31-2005, 12:38 PM

No offense intended!
If the equalizer hitch is properly tensioned it disperses weight evenly on the truck. Every time the truck hits a large bump in the road the rear air bags compress then rebound producing a bouncing. The torsion bars will lessen that bounce. Thus not being HAZARDOUS, but advantageous in smoothing out the ride, the two systems work synergistically with each other. That’s all I was trying to point out.

"<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> So, on vehicles with air suspensions, not only is weight distribution not necessary, it can be hazardous since, in effect, the two systems will be fighting against one another instead of working in conjunction. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>