Ready to buy?

[Matt19]

Ok I have a lot of questions and comfirmations. I read a lot on this forum, over the course of 5 months. now im ready to post.

First my dad is waiting to buy me The new H3X. Now he told me to order it, is that possible?

Second the engine supposedly changed in the H3s from the H3X. If im not mistaken the H3's have an inline (Pistons) enging, am i right? What will the X have? and h3 has 220 hp, will the X have a little more or same, or less?

the clearance lights, or roof lights, do they on the most part whistle when you drive, or is that just for some unfortunate owners?

Also I dont want to back over my own bike (lol, im still a kid--19) is the best bet to get a camera, or sensors? Or do some of you do fine without anything?

H3 power... I drove(rented) a chevy entravan i think, or something like that, and it had Great, i mean GREAT pickup. (and i own a 2k2 manual eclipse). Some say the h3 has bad pickup...trust me i know this is a touchy situation and im not asking for a sports car, i dont feel safe in them. but my dad drove an envoy and said it had good pickup, and great handling (4x4) Should i expect that in the h3x?

I have so many questions but i'll ask more after these hopefully get answered=) thanks !!!!

[Sewie]

The H3x is just a repackaged Lux. No engine changes. Not worth the money IMO.

Visibility out the back is bad. You get used to it, but a camera is a good idea.

As far as power, I'm not getting into that conversation again. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Go take a test drive and decide for yourself.

[Ipedog]

You're a luck kid Matt19. My dad would have never bought me a 35K truck. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

As far as I know there may be displacement changes in the engine for 2007, but doent expect a hot rod. It will never be fast.

Sewies comments are spot on about the X. Personally I can't stand it. Hummers are for off road, not bling. But... to each their own.

[WV Humm\'EER]

Not sure about the H3X at all. I have had my H3 for about a month now. I love it! Visibility is bad out of the back but my parents Volvo XC90 is bad as well. This is common throughout SUV's. That being said I back down my driveway every morning and my driveway is steep and curvy. You get used to it.

As far as power goes I think it has plenty. I've owned some pretty fast vehicles and am not at all bothered by its lack of HP. It isn't a sports car by any means but speed wasn't what it was designed for. This so called problem is way overblown. Just my opinion. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[CampMaster]

Originally posted by Ipedog:
You're a luck kid Matt19. My dad would have never bought me a 35K truck. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif...

No kidding. Must be rough.

I fall firmly into the "chrome won't get you home" camp. If you're into pavement princesses than get a 2wd.

I'm willing to bet a lot of your questions have alredy been asked somewhere in these posts.

Congrats.

[Matt19]

ok, well how about this. Are any of you not satisfied with you hummers?????? If so why. If you are, why? What makes it better or worse than a durango, or a jeep commander(ewww)=)

[WV Humm\'EER]

I just sold a Dodge to get my Hummer. While the Dodge had plenty of power it lacked in other areas. Dodge vehicles are not held in high regard and you will get burned in re-sale value. I looked at the Commander's as well and found no comparison to the H3 in style.

Nothing I really don't like about my H3. Smooth ride, style, and it gets good gas mileage for an SUV. Not to mention its a Hummer. You will get plenty of looks driving it. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[nmikes]

Matt, if you don't like the Hummer's you will get rediculed off off this forum pretty quick. Thats because we pretty much all have one or is pretty close to someone that does. Vehicles speak to everyone different based on priorities. Dodge has great towing capacity, Chevy's are quick... Jeep... well I'm not sure what jeep is... (have to throw bones to the rubicon though) But I think the H3 is a nich vehicle... pretty much any vehicle will get you from point A to B safely. But if everybody wanted just transportation we'd all still be driving Chevette's, Pinto's, and Gremlin's. Today there simply isn't a more practical everyday vehicle out there that you can as severly off-road without worrying about the little things. I think one of the reason's hummers have such poor (I'm speculating) visibility is that the shorter the posts the stronger they are going to be... I believe you could drop an H3 upside down and not worry about the roof pancaking on your head. I know i'm willing to sacrifice some inconvenience in visibility for this. Besides it forces the driver to keep a much higher situational awareness... wich actually makes me a safer driver... and gives a pretty bad ass look. I don't think there is another vehicle out there where the front posts are designed as such a functional roll cage. Its the little things you just don't think about... until you are on an off camber line and you are thinking to yourself... holy ****, if I should roll over... 'well I'm glad I'm driving a hummer' its all about what you are looking for and what suits you. I had a BMW once, macked out with the dinan suspension etc... driving through some neighborhoods in North and East Denver, I thought my car was literally going to come apart. I don't give poor roads a second thought anymore. The H3 has the horsepower and the gearing perfectly suited for exploring. Its probably one of the most overbuilt vehicles sold to the public. Its heavy for a reason, and yeah who doesn't want more horsepower... but looking at the entire package... I can't tell you how many times since last October I've said to myself I'm so glad I'm driving hummer... from hitting that hidden pothole, to crossing the freeway median in tall grass, driving in icy mountain passes, to making it accross a parking lot much quicker because, hell... I took a straight line. I know I'll be driving these things for as long as they'll be making them.

[NEOCON1]

jeep commanders make me chuckle http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[NEOCON1]

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif they dont say hummer on the ends http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[NEOCON1]

durbunghole wouldant even climb this little step

[NEOCON1]

commander , durango = no thanks

[Sewie]

Originally posted by NEOCON1:
commander , durango = no thanks

Didn't quite catch your drift there Neo... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Sewie]

And how'd you miss the Dodge Nitro thread?

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/1726043161/m/9361027561

[NEOCON1]

Didn't quite catch your drift there Neo

just had to show him what a baby hummer should look like http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif dont think 35's will fit either jeep products stock http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[kennyosemite]

Originally posted by NEOCON1:
jeep commanders make me chuckle http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Neo ~ 3questions if I may: 1) are those 315/75R16s? 2) What made you choose TOYO M/T Open Country over BFG A/T's or another brand? 3) did you have to make any adjustments to the rear door mounting to accomodate the larger tire? While I'm waiting to take delivery of my truck (ordered last week), I'm debating whether to tell the dealer I want something other than the 33" Bridgestone Dueler A/T's that come from the factory with the Adventure package. Your sertup is sweet. Thx.

[AZH3]

Originally posted by NEOCON1:
jeep commanders make me chuckle http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Damn Neo that thing is looking pretty clean! Are you ok?

[NEOCON1]

yea AZ im not all together right now trucks clean and still a few weeks till moab if i could just go into the future http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif i have moab brain so cant be responsible for any posts over the next few weeks . im seeing red , red rock that is http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[NEOCON1]

hey kenny , you nail'd size , brand , etc . i chose the toyos because the aggresive sidewall tread , i want to chew some stuff up http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif and have good traction on sidewalls . they are very quiet too , and lots of recomendations from the guys here http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif they fit on the back without any modifications http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif heres some more info

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/2706067735/m/7371013461

[kennyosemite]

Kewl, Neo. Thanks for the previous thread. I am SOLD on the Toyos. Best price I found online was $233.25 here:

Super Duty HQ (http://www.superdutyheadquarters.com/toyomt.htm)

Have you seen anything better? I'll most likely get them via my local outlet, but being able to quote an aggressive price will force them to match.

[Hummer crazy]

Originally posted by nmikes:
Matt, if you don't like the Hummer's you will get rediculed off off this forum pretty quick. Thats because we pretty much all have one or is pretty close to someone that does. Vehicles speak to everyone different based on priorities. Dodge has great towing capacity, Chevy's are quick... Jeep... well I'm not sure what jeep is... (have to throw bones to the rubicon though) But I think the H3 is a nich vehicle... pretty much any vehicle will get you from point A to B safely. But if everybody wanted just transportation we'd all still be driving Chevette's, Pinto's, and Gremlin's. Today there simply isn't a more practical everyday vehicle out there that you can as severly off-road without worrying about the little things. I think one of the reason's hummers have such poor (I'm speculating) visibility is that the shorter the posts the stronger they are going to be... I believe you could drop an H3 upside down and not worry about the roof pancaking on your head. I know i'm willing to sacrifice some inconvenience in visibility for this. Besides it forces the driver to keep a much higher situational awareness... wich actually makes me a safer driver... and gives a pretty bad ass look. I don't think there is another vehicle out there where the front posts are designed as such a functional roll cage. Its the little things you just don't think about... until you are on an off camber line and you are thinking to yourself... holy ****, if I should roll over... 'well I'm glad I'm driving a hummer' its all about what you are looking for and what suits you. I had a BMW once, macked out with the dinan suspension etc... driving through some neighborhoods in North and East Denver, I thought my car was literally going to come apart. I don't give poor roads a second thought anymore. The H3 has the horsepower and the gearing perfectly suited for exploring. Its probably one of the most overbuilt vehicles sold to the public. Its heavy for a reason, and yeah who doesn't want more horsepower... but looking at the entire package... I can't tell you how many times since last October I've said to myself I'm so glad I'm driving hummer... from hitting that hidden pothole, to crossing the freeway median in tall grass, driving in icy mountain passes, to making it accross a parking lot much quicker because, hell... I took a straight line. I know I'll be driving these things for as long as they'll be making them. COULD Not have said it any better Thats It Thats All So True

[Ipedog]

Originally posted by kennyosemite:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NEOCON1:
jeep commanders make me chuckle http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Neo ~ 3questions if I may: 1) are those 315/75R16s? 2) What made you choose TOYO M/T Open Country over BFG A/T's or another brand? 3) did you have to make any adjustments to the rear door mounting to accomodate the larger tire? While I'm waiting to take delivery of my truck (ordered last week), I'm debating whether to tell the dealer I want something other than the 33" Bridgestone Dueler A/T's that come from the factory with the Adventure package. Your sertup is sweet. Thx. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I love the Toyo's and would have gotten them if I hadn't gotten a great deal on my BFG AT KO's. They are both great tires.

Yes, if you can get the dealer to switch out the tires DO IT!

HIHUMMER and HummerNewbie have the BFG AT KO's in the OE size 285/75R16 on their H3s and they work really well. When HI and I were in Paragon her base H3 with KO's was able to clear things that my Adventure with OE Bridgstones could not. Those tires are a weak link. Ditch 'em.

[NEOCON1]

Best price I found online was $233.25 here:

hey kenny thats a great price i payed 250.00 mounted out the door and that was supplier discount LOL BS . we get hosed in the L.A. area http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif the 285 toyo is a great tire also without the issues of going big , ( mileage , plastic trimming , etc. )

[Matt19]

when are the 2007's coming out? is the H3X going to be called 2007? or will there also be a 2007 H3?

[Alan06SUT]

Originally posted by NEOCON1:
yea AZ im not all together right now trucks clean and still a few weeks till moab if i could just go into the future http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif i have moab brain so cant be responsible for any posts over the next few weeks . im seeing red , red rock that is http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Matt19, Moab...one more reason for the hummer over the other junk you mentioned. You couldn't even consider taking a commander or durango to moab in stock form. We just got back from tellico and we were the only new and/or stock vehicles out there running the tougher trails.

Think of it this way, most wheelers have a trail rig and a daily driver. All hummers are truly functional at both. Jeep Rubicon and Dodge power wagon are the only two vehicles that could even argue to be both trail rig and DD, but a rubicon has no space whatsoever, and the power wagon is too huge; bigger than H2.

If you are in college, it will be perfect for when you have to move or when everyone piles in you ride for road trips, or camping, etc.

If you think you will do offraoding (and you probably will start wheeling once you get one), get the adveture pkg. the crawl ratio is sick! and the locker is critical for rocks, hillclibs on tougher trails.

[kennyosemite]

[/QUOTE] hey kenny . . . the issues of going big , ( mileage , plastic trimming , etc. )[/QUOTE]
Neo ~ what plastic did you trim on the inside of your front wheel wells. I remember you saying somewhere in this thread the TOYO 315s are great if you can live with the rubbing. Is that AFTER the trim, or before?

[AZH3]

I'm such a loser. I don't even deserve to be here.

[HummerNewbie]

Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
If you think you will do offraoding (and you probably will start wheeling once you get one),...

Alan is right, you will start when you get it. I only had 1,100 miles on mine when I headed to Tellico. I more than double my mileage just getting there and back http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Also, as he mentioned, most everything up there was modified. Here is a pic of one of the cooler ones we saw.