New Discoverer STTs

[MarineHawk]

I think managed to get good tires without my profits going to Paris (BFG own3d by Michelin). I'm getting the t-bars cranked about an inch on Wed., since I can't get into most of the parking garage spaces I used to frequent any more anyway. Fortunately, the fine garage people are going to let me park on the upper level for $25/month more. Problem solved. Based on the specs, these should have only raised my vehicle by 1.2 inches, but, as you can see below, they're more than 2.4" taller than the BFG ATs. They rub a little at near-full lock. The rubbing is probably tolerable, but a little more than what I'd like. Hence the t-bar lift (and reallignment). They have 3-ply sidewalls, and tread and side lugs look good enough for anything I'll be doing. The tires are beasts - 84 lbs compared with the 60 lbs for the stock tires. They're not very loud either. They do ride a little rougher, but it's a truck anyway, and they handle very well. Happy so far. Be a little happier I think when the t-bars go up a little.

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[DRTYFN]

They'll settle a bit from where they are now. When I got my 35" Toyo MTs they were a little taller than my 37" MTRs. They're now shorter.

How's the road noise and directional stability on those tires?

[Mr. I - Man]

They look schweet! You gotta let me know about the roof height, as I am also an urban dweller and have to park in a parking garage. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[frank6150]

Looks very nice.

[MarineHawk]

Interesting. So they just conform to the loaded shape over time?

The noise isn’t hardly noticeable to me, even with the window down. If you’re listening for it, you can tell. If I recall correctly, the GY MTRs on my old Sierra, were a little louder – and I didn’t think they were very loud either. The directional stability SEEMS, so far, to be as good as with the stock ones. Maybe that’s not possible, but there is no big change that I can notice yet. It’s interesting what a couple inches can do. I immediately noticed that I was riding higher.


Originally posted by DRTYFN:
They'll settle a bit from where they are now. When I got my 35" Toyo MTs they were a little taller than my 37" MTRs. They're now shorter.

How's the road noise and directional stability on those tires?

[MarineHawk]

Thanks. I can try to measure. For proper reference, should I measure to the top of the back part of the rail? That's not the highest part on mine - the bubbling waffled roof is near the back. I must have gone up more than 1.5" because I cleared the parking garage overhang by that much stock, and the valet guy said I definitely wasn't going to clear it today.

Originally posted by Mr. I - Man:
They look schweet! You gotta let me know about the roof height, as I am also an urban dweller and have to park in a parking garage. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Ipedog]

Nice looking tires MarineHawk! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by frank6150:
Looks very nice.

Thanks. ... Wait! No! No! This is NOT a pad! It is a mere friendly compliment acceptance.

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by Ipedog:
Nice looking tires MarineHawk! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Thanks to you too.
(Don't you all even start with the unfounded padding allegations.)

[DDWH]

Look sweet MH!

[Alan06SUT]

it will only raise your truck half of the height diff between the two tires right? So 1.2 " is probably right. ceneter of wheel to ground.

[CampMaster]

Originally posted by DDWH:
Look sweet MH!

Consider yourself banned.

[MarineHawk]

It should raise the vehicle roughly 1/2 of the difference in tire height - though you will get variations from that due to the rigidity of the tires and, of course, air pressure differences. Bottom line: I think the Coopers were more than the 2.4" taller than the BFGs that the specs indicated when at 1.0 atm, and they are also more rigid. But what DTRY is saying, I think, is that the tires will loose some of their rigidity over time.

Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
it will only raise your truck half of the height diff between the two tires right? So 1.2 " is probably right. ceneter of wheel to ground.

[CampMaster]

Originally posted by CampMaster*:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DDWH:
Look sweet MH!

Consider yourself banned. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've decided to ban you twice. Why? Because I can.

[DennisAJC]

They look sweet. Good choice.

[KenP]

Looks like you made a good choice. Can't wait to see them in action. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by KenP:
Looks like you made a good choice. Can't wait to see them in action. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I'll try to get them off road in the next couple of weeks. Unfortunately, no Moab for them this April.

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by sfox:
Those look great! Glad they worked out for you MarineHawk, that's what I was thinking of getting for our next set.

S

Thanks. I'll let you know how they work out.

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by DennisAJC:
They look sweet. Good choice.

Thanks.

[MovinH2]

Great look. Congrats.

[dochummer]

Looks Great! Are those 37's or 35's?

[KenP]

How's Fuddruckers? Is it as good as here?

BTW, we may be making Paragon a little sooner than expected. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by dochummer:
Looks Great! Are those 37's or 35's?

Thanks. 37s. They are appx 13.5" wide - about an inch thicker than the BFGs and about an inch thinner than the Toyos -- if you believe the specs.

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by KenP:
How's Fuddruckers? Is it as good as here?

BTW, we may be making Paragon a little sooner than expected. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thgat's funny. I was in the Fuddruckers' parking lot after getting the tires on and getting some Backwoods Black and Milds and regular unleaded at the Shell station. Just a place to take photos.

When is the new Paragon adventure? Is it mostly mud/hills? Any rocks?

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by KenP:
Looks like you made a good choice. Can't wait to see them in action. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Minor action.

[MarineHawk]

More.

[Ipedog]

Originally posted by MarineHawk:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
How's Fuddruckers? Is it as good as here?

BTW, we may be making Paragon a little sooner than expected. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thgat's funny. I was in the Fuddruckers' parking lot after getting the tires on and getting some Backwoods Black and Milds and regular unleaded at the Shell station. Just a place to take photos.

When is the new Paragon adventure? Is it mostly mud/hills? Any rocks? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know about Ken's schedule, but I have been hoping to make a Paragon trip soon. See this THREAD (http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/1236038291/m/5571085661).

I've only been to Paragon once but that was enough! I am hooked!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif There are lots and lots of rocks, plenty of hills and mud... Yep, they got that too! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I hope you can join in on a Paragon trip soon. Its loads of fun!

Oh, and again. I love those tires. They look like they'll be perfect for Paragon. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[MarineHawk]

Let me know. I'll try to go. Are there good camping places around/in Paragon?

[ROX]

Those look great! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Ipedog]

Originally posted by MarineHawk:
Let me know. I'll try to go. Are there good camping places around/in Paragon?

I know that there are campgrounds in the area, although I don't know if they'll be open in April. We stayed at the Fairfield Inn last time which was a bit spendy. Maybe the Ramada or Best Western this time. I think the BW takes pets. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

In May for Memorial Day weekend I'll have my 3yo son with me who's never camped. That will be a hotel stay for sure.

Expect PM in the next few days. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[MarineHawk]

Yeah, I have a 2-yr-old. Maybe they could play together.

[Ipedog]

That would be cool! I'm hoping that lots of kids are able to come for the Memorial Day weekend trip. That would be really fun. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[FiremanJay]

Marine where did you get them and what was the cost?

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by FiremanJay:
Marine where did you get them and what was the cost?

Weber Tire in Fairfax; $248 + $12 balancing per tire.

[FiremanJay]

Weber Tire in Fairfax; $248 + $12 balancing per tire.

Cool looks like i will be contacting them in the next few weeks
thanks

[Longhorn]

Those look damn good. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I'm curious to see how much rubbing you get with flex. Please let us know.

I want 37X13.50s next. I'm thinking Toyo MTs and some trimming.

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by Longhorn:
Those look damn good. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I'm curious to see how much rubbing you get with flex. Please let us know.

I want 37X13.50s next. I'm thinking Toyo MTs and some trimming.

According to the mfr specs, the Coopers are 36.9" tall; and 13.1" wide; and with a 23 mm tread depth. Toyo says theirs are 37.1" tall; and 14.6" wide; and with a 21 mm tread depth.
My rubbing is generally only at or near full lock. I didn't notice any rubbing last weekend in the GWNF. I get the impression that, even under flex, the rubbing will only be at or near full lock. The rubbing is only on the anti-sway bar. Trimming won't help with that. Less backspacing will, but I haven't gotten new wheels yet. I will if the rubbing ever bothers me.