View Full Version : Need Help With Door Switch and Air System
drmiles
09-02-2004, 11:10 PM
My Instrument panel say right rear door open!!!
Happens every time I put it in drive.
PROBLEM IS THE AIR SYSTEM WON'T OPERATE WITH THE DOOR OPEN AND THE BACK END OF THE TRUCK IS SAGGING SIGNIFICANTLY. Dealer can't look at it until Tuesday.
Is there any way to bypass that one door and get the system to air up???
Jerry
drmiles
09-02-2004, 11:10 PM
My Instrument panel say right rear door open!!!
Happens every time I put it in drive.
PROBLEM IS THE AIR SYSTEM WON'T OPERATE WITH THE DOOR OPEN AND THE BACK END OF THE TRUCK IS SAGGING SIGNIFICANTLY. Dealer can't look at it until Tuesday.
Is there any way to bypass that one door and get the system to air up???
Jerry
PARAGON
09-03-2004, 12:11 AM
This is a joke isn't it. Or are you a troll that keeps posting week after week of the dealer's lack of correct handling?
I have no idea where the switch is on the door, but maybe you can "manually", as in some tape or something, have the switch held back. If not, you need to check if the switch is an always open or always closed type and maybe you can put a jumper wire on the back of the switch.
If no one else knows or posts anything, I'll check tomorrow before I head to the ranch and see what might can be done.
PARAGON
09-03-2004, 12:11 AM
This is a joke isn't it. Or are you a troll that keeps posting week after week of the dealer's lack of correct handling?
I have no idea where the switch is on the door, but maybe you can "manually", as in some tape or something, have the switch held back. If not, you need to check if the switch is an always open or always closed type and maybe you can put a jumper wire on the back of the switch.
If no one else knows or posts anything, I'll check tomorrow before I head to the ranch and see what might can be done.
drmiles
09-03-2004, 12:47 AM
No joke. Simple problem just poor timing, holiday weekend and all.
Don't get me wrong I LOVE my H2, I have owned many cars and trucks, also broke quit a few. the only vehicle I have owned that had fewer problems than my H2 was my 2000 4 runner.I like to push them to there limits and sometimes a little beyond.
Just looking for a way to get around the door ajar message and air up the rear suspension. Until the dealership can repair it. They said bring it in and they would give me a loaner. But as I said I love to drive the Hummer.
drmiles
09-03-2004, 12:47 AM
No joke. Simple problem just poor timing, holiday weekend and all.
Don't get me wrong I LOVE my H2, I have owned many cars and trucks, also broke quit a few. the only vehicle I have owned that had fewer problems than my H2 was my 2000 4 runner.I like to push them to there limits and sometimes a little beyond.
Just looking for a way to get around the door ajar message and air up the rear suspension. Until the dealership can repair it. They said bring it in and they would give me a loaner. But as I said I love to drive the Hummer.
Ed G.
09-03-2004, 03:42 AM
I can tell you exactly what it is, the BCM (Body Control Module). Mine did the same thing, kept saying "Right Rear Door Ajar". I had it in twice before they figured it out.
Ed
Ed G.
09-03-2004, 03:42 AM
I can tell you exactly what it is, the BCM (Body Control Module). Mine did the same thing, kept saying "Right Rear Door Ajar". I had it in twice before they figured it out.
Ed
partsguy
09-03-2004, 09:54 AM
The switch is part of the lock asm,but Ed
is right. by passing the switch will not over-
ride the BCM to air up the rear.
You need a new BCM.Where do you live?
partsguy
09-03-2004, 09:54 AM
The switch is part of the lock asm,but Ed
is right. by passing the switch will not over-
ride the BCM to air up the rear.
You need a new BCM.Where do you live?
drmiles
09-03-2004, 11:05 AM
North Houston Area..
Is the part difficult to install, and where is it...
I took the door panel apart andcould change the lock mech. if thats all that is needed
Jerry
drmiles
09-03-2004, 11:05 AM
North Houston Area..
Is the part difficult to install, and where is it...
I took the door panel apart andcould change the lock mech. if thats all that is needed
Jerry
PARAGON
09-03-2004, 11:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by partsguy:
The switch is part of the lock asm,but Ed
is right. by passing the switch will not over-
ride the BCM to air up the rear.
You need a new BCM.Where do you live? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That is if it is the BCM. A service tech would be able to determine where the problem is very quickly but the problem can be in a few places up and down the line. If is indeed the switch you can manually jump the switch and get the air bags up.
Ed might be correct as the BCM. If you can get to the connector, you can ground the proper indicator wire and see if it shuts off the door ajar signal.
This is from the Service Manual.
PARAGON
09-03-2004, 11:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by partsguy:
The switch is part of the lock asm,but Ed
is right. by passing the switch will not over-
ride the BCM to air up the rear.
You need a new BCM.Where do you live? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That is if it is the BCM. A service tech would be able to determine where the problem is very quickly but the problem can be in a few places up and down the line. If is indeed the switch you can manually jump the switch and get the air bags up.
Ed might be correct as the BCM. If you can get to the connector, you can ground the proper indicator wire and see if it shuts off the door ajar signal.
This is from the Service Manual.
PARAGON
09-03-2004, 11:44 AM
Here is something else from the manual
PARAGON
09-03-2004, 11:44 AM
Here is something else from the manual
drmiles
09-03-2004, 12:40 PM
For clarification;
if its the switch I should be able to connect pin 1 and pin 3, to close the circuit and get the air bag to operate???
drmiles
09-03-2004, 12:40 PM
For clarification;
if its the switch I should be able to connect pin 1 and pin 3, to close the circuit and get the air bag to operate???
partsguy
09-03-2004, 02:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by partsguy:
The switch is part of the lock asm,but Ed
is right. by passing the switch will not over-
ride the BCM to air up the rear.
You need a new BCM.Where do you live? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That is if it is the BCM. A service tech would be able to determine where the problem is very quickly but the problem can be in a few places up and down the line. If is indeed the switch you can manually jump the switch and get the air bags up.
Ed might be correct as the BCM. If you can get to the connector, you can ground the proper indicator wire and see if it shuts off the door ajar signal.
This is from the Service Manual. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Thanks for the fumble recoverey.I ONLY feel like a
little ass,instead of a total one. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gifI asked a
Chevy tech . http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
partsguy
09-03-2004, 02:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by partsguy:
The switch is part of the lock asm,but Ed
is right. by passing the switch will not over-
ride the BCM to air up the rear.
You need a new BCM.Where do you live? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That is if it is the BCM. A service tech would be able to determine where the problem is very quickly but the problem can be in a few places up and down the line. If is indeed the switch you can manually jump the switch and get the air bags up.
Ed might be correct as the BCM. If you can get to the connector, you can ground the proper indicator wire and see if it shuts off the door ajar signal.
This is from the Service Manual. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Thanks for the fumble recoverey.I ONLY feel like a
little ass,instead of a total one. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gifI asked a
Chevy tech . http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
Ed G.
09-04-2004, 12:16 AM
The first time that I took it in they tried replacing the actuator switch, didn't solve the problem. The BCM, I think, is behind the headlight switch panel.
Ed
Ed G.
09-04-2004, 12:16 AM
The first time that I took it in they tried replacing the actuator switch, didn't solve the problem. The BCM, I think, is behind the headlight switch panel.
Ed
PARAGON
09-04-2004, 12:29 AM
I am not at home so I don't have access to my service manuals but there are a few BCMs that are somewhere behind the dash. There is a row of them just above the petals up in the dash, but I can't remember which one goes with the doors.
I should have read the procedure up above more closely and scanned the references it makes to "perform the setup procedure for the instrument panel" and other references.
Let us know if you figure anything out.
PARAGON
09-04-2004, 12:29 AM
I am not at home so I don't have access to my service manuals but there are a few BCMs that are somewhere behind the dash. There is a row of them just above the petals up in the dash, but I can't remember which one goes with the doors.
I should have read the procedure up above more closely and scanned the references it makes to "perform the setup procedure for the instrument panel" and other references.
Let us know if you figure anything out.
Ed G.
09-04-2004, 11:02 AM
If you can run it by McGinnis on I-10, that's who did the work on mine, great people!
Ed
Ed G.
09-04-2004, 11:02 AM
If you can run it by McGinnis on I-10, that's who did the work on mine, great people!
Ed
drmiles
09-04-2004, 02:14 PM
I gave up and dropped the truck off @ the Dealer. It'll have to sit all weekend, until Tues. before anyone works on it. I am now the happy driver of a Chev Trail Blazer (new only 800 miles). Sure hated to give up the Hummer after not having it for the last 4 weeks. But the wider tires were really beginning to rub the frame.
Also, tried to jump the door connection. Didn't work.
drmiles
09-04-2004, 02:14 PM
I gave up and dropped the truck off @ the Dealer. It'll have to sit all weekend, until Tues. before anyone works on it. I am now the happy driver of a Chev Trail Blazer (new only 800 miles). Sure hated to give up the Hummer after not having it for the last 4 weeks. But the wider tires were really beginning to rub the frame.
Also, tried to jump the door connection. Didn't work.
For clarification;
if its the switch I should be able to connect pin 1 and pin 3, to close the circuit and get the air bag to operate???
Hi I cam across this thread . look i have the dam problem driving me nuts , and i live at the moment in the Czech Republic , where is the BCM , and whats the cost approx , jesus over i order a part they think of a number and times it by 10 so its always handy to know the cost ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,can i replace the BCM myself ?,,,,,,,,,,,,now i have small kids and i have the child lock on , and now the right rear door wont open from inside or out side ,,,,,,,,HELP HELP
Grant
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