Warning, Factory Sunroofs, Anti Pinch Does Not Work

[hdfatboy]

I tried the anti-pinch feature on the sunroof and it did not work. The owners manual claims if any object is dectected in its path it will stop and retract to the open position, it did neither. When I took the H3 to the dealer for numerous other problems such as Stab. Traction fail, warp roof rails, rear door check creak and I also mentioned that the anti pinch feature did not work. The dealer techs tried several other H3 in the lot and not one anti-pinch feature worked. If you have young children Do Not let them touch the sunroof button, this button if touched only once will close the sunroof fully.which may do serious harm to your children. I spoke with the Customer Assistance Program many times about this problem and they assurred me that the engerring team in Detroit will be notified of this problem.

[hdfatboy]

I tried the anti-pinch feature on the sunroof and it did not work. The owners manual claims if any object is dectected in its path it will stop and retract to the open position, it did neither. When I took the H3 to the dealer for numerous other problems such as Stab. Traction fail, warp roof rails, rear door check creak and I also mentioned that the anti pinch feature did not work. The dealer techs tried several other H3 in the lot and not one anti-pinch feature worked. If you have young children Do Not let them touch the sunroof button, this button if touched only once will close the sunroof fully.which may do serious harm to your children. I spoke with the Customer Assistance Program many times about this problem and they assurred me that the engerring team in Detroit will be notified of this problem.

[fourfourto]

My anti pitch works fine although I got suckered into a aftermarket sunroof as they were on restriction at time of purchase and I couldnt find a adventure with factory sunroof in black or gray within a few hundred miles at time of purchase.I only had a week to find one due to turning in 2004 murano.I had to get a H3 within that week.All said Im happy the sunroof is not as big and nice as factory but whats done is done.Thinking back I should have looked further away or got a cutom rag top sunroof to be different it would of been about the same money.I do get a full warantty on the (german)sunroof 4 years 50k but probobly only at my dealer.

[The Green Lantern]

I went out and tried mine a few times and yes the anti-pinch feature didn't work....gotta call the dealer now and let them know. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[The Pink Lantern]

You want anti-pinch?

I love the pinching! and the squeezing....

oooooooooo!

[The Green Lantern]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by The Pink Lantern:

I love the pinching! and the squeezing....

oooooooooo! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The <span class="ev_code_PINK">Pink</span> Lantern...interesting name, I hope we're not related... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Chip]

So how do test it? Stick your hand out and wait till it stops? Then call Onstar and get the parimedics.

[hdfatboy]

I tried to restrict movement by placing my hand in front as it was closing and it did not stop. Then I tried to forcefully stop it by putting both hands on the moving glass and it damn near lifted me out of the chair. Extreme caution if anyone trys this. The manual claims if it sences any object it its path it will stop and open fully...........

[fourfourto]

Try using a throw pillow instead of your hand. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[timgco]

Did anyone stick their head up there yet to see if it works? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[DDWH]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
Why does it matter? Be a real parent and make sure your kids aren’t playing in the truck with their heads sticking out of the sunroof. That’s like complaining about the lack of reverse warning beeper if you back into someone. It’s not the manufacturer's responsibility to prevent injury caused by stupidity. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

X2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
Having thought about it a bit more they should also have a feature on the doors to prevent you from closing them if an object is in the way.

I once was stupid enough to close a car door on my finger and instead of feeling like a dumb ass for my mistake and dealing with it I should have tried to sue to car manufacture for their design flaw http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>What about the side windows?

[fourfourto]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">What about the side windows? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


It is nice that they go all the way down unlike some other cars & trucks. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif If they didnt that would suck.

[The Green Lantern]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
Did anyone stick their head up there yet to see if it works? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

no way, it's like putting your head on a guillotine... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
What about the side windows? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
They are made of glass and potentially very dangerous. I think this whole car thing is fraught with danger and I may move to Amishville and get a horse and buggy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>That's fraught with it's own dangers. It's too close to Frank http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[PackerFever]

I discovered in December that it did not stop. I reached up there to get some ice off that was sliding aroune up there. I closed it then before it closed I reached up quick to brush off another.....I didn't realize that it was supposed to stop...although I kind of thought it should. I almost had my fingers pinched off but good thing instinct realized it was not going to stop and jerked my hand back.....I really don't think it was going to stop and I am glad I didn't find out how far it would go.

One of my dogs likes to ride with his head stiking out the top...no problem there. The one day I pushed the button and it started to close, the dog was in the back seat, anyway he decided he didn't want it to close so he went to stick his nose up ther while it was closing. I grabbed him a the last second....kind of scary.

But if you touch the button while it is moving then it will stop...really not a big deal if you are aware of what is going on as a couple posters on here so eloquently mentinoed.

[deicustoms1]

Anti-Pinch...what's next! I've installed systems to automatically close windows when hands/arms/heads are in the path!

Have any of you actually gotten "pinched"? from a window, it sounds like no one could completely go through with it. It doesn't even cut off circulation. (I had to test for security reasons :P)

As for the child safety...if the sunroof hurts them it will just make them fear and respect the sunroof, which is a good thing.

[hdfatboy]

This sunroof is strong enough to hurt and could severely injure someone. I am not talking about a cigarette lighter and or god forbid the fog lights not working. This is a serious problem one touch of this button when open will and can cause serious injury maybe death. Please check your anti-pinch feature to see if it works. There are no fixes for it at this time............

[DarthKarl]

How about this solution?

[deicustoms1]

Stick a chicken bone in there and close it, if it breaks then you might have something to support your now unreasonable fear.

[Anonymous]

The one on my sunroof works just fine, but the one on the hood, rear gate, windows, passenger doors, glove box, console, fuse box, and gas door are all defective. I've got a call in to Jackie Childs, I smell a law suit. To make things worse, I put a burrito in the microwave at the corner convenience store and the damn thing just slammed shut. I barely got the burrito out in time but I was too traumatized at that point to eat. I'll just go get some hot coffee at McDonalds, that sounds safe.

[hdfatboy]

Alex W
It is obvious that you do not have a sunroof in your HUMMER. If you did you should test it for yourself, place you tongue at the end and close the sunroof maybe it will make a believer outtta you................

This is suppose to be a safety feature. Why put a smoke detector in your house if you do not smoke.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hdfatboy:
This sunroof is strong enough to hurt and could severely injure someone. I am not talking about a cigarette lighter and or god forbid the fog lights not working. This is a serious problem one touch of this button when open will and can cause serious injury maybe death. Please check your anti-pinch feature to see if it works. There are no fixes for it at this time............ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Serious injury my ass, LMFAO http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Didums the fat boy get his finger caught in the sunroof? Boohoo http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[NEOCON1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by The Green Lantern:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by The Pink Lantern:

I love the pinching! and the squeezing....

oooooooooo! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The <span class="ev_code_PINK">Pink</span> Lantern...interesting name, I hope we're not related... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i thought she was your girlfriend TGL http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[hdfatboy]

I throught this message board was for our less fortunate H3 owners and not like yourself who leasing or may own a H2. I glad your sunroof works to bad for the rest of us poor bastar s..

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hdfatboy:
It is obvious that you do not have a sunroof in your HUMMER. If you did you should test it for yourself, place you tongue at the end and close the sunroof maybe it will make a believer outtta you................

This is suppose to be a safety feature. Why put a smoke detector in your house if you do not smoke.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hdfatboy:
This sunroof is strong enough to hurt and could severely injure someone. I am not talking about a cigarette lighter and or god forbid the fog lights not working. This is a serious problem one touch of this button when open will and can cause serious injury maybe death. Please check your anti-pinch feature to see if it works. There are no fixes for it at this time............ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Serious injury my ass, LMFAO http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Didums the fat boy get his finger caught in the sunroof? Boohoo http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Not only do I have a sunroof in my Hummer, I own an H2 which as you know has a stock sunroof with quadruple the power of your flimsy H3 sunroof. My sunroof is extremely dangerous and could easily cut a man in half by merely looking at the button.

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[profish00]

as stated above the hood and tires will kill you. its the little things like the windshield wiper that will beat you to death. God forbid the cigarette lighter on your private part; that hurts and need looked at.

[PackerFever]

kidding aside, it is a legitimate concern for those who are concenred. They are supposed to stop for a reason. Now it may not be able to sever fingers, who knows?, but it could still have power enough to hurt a little kids or dogs neck or even the drivers flanges. The point is that we are all responsible for our onwn actions. But if they didn't think it was important they wouldn't have made one that is supposed to stop.

Legitimate concernt hat the dealer needs to address. JMHO!

[hdfatboy]

Thank You, for your concern.........

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PackerFever:
kidding aside, it is a legitimate concern for those who are concenred. They are supposed to stop for a reason. Now it may not be able to sever fingers, who knows?, but it could still have power enough to hurt a little kids or dogs neck or even the drivers flanges. The point is that we are all responsible for our onwn actions. But if they didn't think it was important they wouldn't have made one that is supposed to stop.

Legitimate concernt hat the dealer needs to address. JMHO! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[CO Hummer]

Sunroofs are great for transporting large plants. Just ask Alec.

[HummerB]

when i bought mine my dealer tested it while i was in the truck and it worked fine. hmmmm i am a little scared to go test it now!

[HummerB]

yup, couldn't stand it i had to go and try it. fawking thing doesn't work! i don't understand why it did when my dealer did it..

oh well i guess it doesnt really matter though.

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hdfatboy:
This sunroof is strong enough to hurt and could severely injure someone. I am not talking about a cigarette lighter and or god forbid the fog lights not working. This is a serious problem one touch of this button when open will and can cause serious injury maybe death. Please check your anti-pinch feature to see if it works. There are no fixes for it at this time............ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

How about you don't stick your head or other appendage out of the sunroof while closing it? You must be a multiple Darwin Award runner-up.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[fourfourto]

Is my aftermarket sunroof the only one that works if blocked?.

[westhillsat]

I'll go to Home Depot and get a cinder block and see if the damn thing stops!!!

GM said that the sunroof has a no pinch feature, I'm going to hire Walc to sue!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hdfatboy:
This is suppose to be a safety feature. Why put a smoke detector in your house if you do not smoke. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>WTF is this suppose to mean????

The sunroof motor does not have enough torque to do any damage to the human body except maybe break a finger or asphixiate by closing on the neck. Obviously a reasonable person should be able to avoid this due to the slow moving motor.

[HummerB]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hdfatboy:
This is suppose to be a safety feature. Why put a smoke detector in your house if you do not smoke. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>WTF is this suppose to mean????



That is the dumbest thing i have ever heard! Well maybe not ever, but thats on the top 10.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummerB:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hdfatboy:
This is suppose to be a safety feature. Why put a smoke detector in your house if you do not smoke. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>WTF is this suppose to mean????



That is the dumbest thing i have ever heard! Well maybe not ever, but thats on the top 10. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You own an H3?

Ever been to Tellico?

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by westhillsat:
I'll go to Home Depot and get a cinder block and see if the damn thing stops!!!

GM said that the sunroof has a no pinch feature, I'm going to hire Walc to sue!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Many thanks to westhillsat, who has volunteered to be the lead Plaintiff, in this class action suit. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Westhillsat stepped up; notwithstanding that the lead Plaintiff will have to have his head chopped off, to maximize damages. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I know, some may say, "why doesn't our lawyer volunteer to have his head chopped off?".
Folks, I sincerely http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif wish I could; but, I have to be alive to enjoy my fee. I'm sure you understand. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[NEOCON1]

hey guys i dont have a sunroof but there must be a loophole that you can find to add me to the suit . thank you http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[westhillsat]

I like Plan B better.

I would have to find an unsuspecting person who wants to ride in the H3.

The pain, anguish and suffering of seeing that poor persons head cut off. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif We will sue for millions and the persons family can sue too.

Noowww who was that, that wanted to ride in my H3 and see the sunroof???

[walc]

Neocon1 and westhillsat,
Are you thinking what I am?
You guys can ride together, in westhillsat's H3! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[fourfourto]

westhillsat
Hummer Professional

Posted Feb 19, 8:31 PM
I like Plan B better.

I would have to find an unsuspecting person who wants to ride in the H3.

The pain, anguish and suffering of seeing that poor persons head cut off. We will sue for millions and the persons family can sue too.

Noowww who was that, that wanted to ride in my H3 and see the sunroof???



Post the pics or even a video http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DDWH:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
Why does it matter? Be a real parent and make sure your kids aren’t playing in the truck with their heads sticking out of the sunroof. That’s like complaining about the lack of reverse warning beeper if you back into someone. It’s not the manufacturer's responsibility to prevent injury caused by stupidity. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

X2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>X3. WTF??? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by westhillsat:
I'll go to Home Depot and get a cinder block and see if the damn thing stops!!!

GM said that the sunroof has a no pinch feature, I'm going to hire Walc to sue!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Many thanks to westhillsat, who has volunteered to be the lead Plaintiff, in this class action suit. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Westhillsat stepped up; notwithstanding that the lead Plaintiff will have to have his head chopped off, to maximize damages. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I know, some may say, "why doesn't our lawyer volunteer to have his head chopped off?".
Folks, I sincerely http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif wish I could; but, I have to be alive to enjoy my fee. I'm sure you understand. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Your really just a shade shy of a retard walc. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Alec,
You meant "you're".
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Apparently, a shade shy would be a step up for you.

[killian]

I checked my (factory) sunroof and the anti-pinch works just fine.

How anti climatic! I'm a bit disappointed, really.

I was hoping for a life threatening injury or at the very least to disturb my neighbors with a blood curdling scream whilst conducting my tests.

I'll have to go slam my head in the tailgate now, just to get any sort of satisfaction.

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by westhillsat:
I'll go to Home Depot and get a cinder block and see if the damn thing stops!!!

GM said that the sunroof has a no pinch feature, I'm going to hire Walc to sue!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Many thanks to westhillsat, who has volunteered to be the lead Plaintiff, in this class action suit. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Westhillsat stepped up; notwithstanding that the lead Plaintiff will have to have his head chopped off, to maximize damages. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I know, some may say, "why doesn't our lawyer volunteer to have his head chopped off?".
Folks, I sincerely http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif wish I could; but, I have to be alive to enjoy my fee. I'm sure you understand. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Your really just a shade shy of a retard walc. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Alec,
You meant "you're".
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Apparently, a shade shy would be a step up for you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Semantics, but you’re still a retard. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, Alec, semantics is the study of meaning in language.
BTW, is English a second language for you? If so, you speak it reasonably well.

[NEOCON1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I'll have to go slam my head in the tailgate now, just to get any sort of satisfaction. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

OUCH that hurt !!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif can i sue now http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[The Green Lantern]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NEOCON1:


i thought she was your girlfriend TGL http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


LOL http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif....funny man!!, nope not my girlfriend. maybe she can come wheel with us. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by killian:
I checked my (factory) sunroof and the anti-pinch works just fine.

How anti climatic! I'm a bit disappointed, really.

I was hoping for a life threatening injury or at the very least to disturb my neighbors with a blood curdling scream whilst conducting my tests.

I'll have to go slam my head in the tailgate now, just to get any sort of satisfaction. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good thinking!
You will be an asset to our class action.
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[NEOCON1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">LOL ....funny man!!, nope not my girlfriend. maybe she can come wheel with us. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

hey man maybe we found a chick even crazier than Bebe http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif wow that would be something http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NEOCON1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I'll have to go slam my head in the tailgate now, just to get any sort of satisfaction. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

OUCH that hurt !!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif can i sue now http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

NEOCON1,
You are IN!!!
Now, we need someone to spill McDonald's coffee, on themselves, while chopping their head off with the sunroof. Maybe a fat guy, who eats 50 Big Macs, and complains that he gained weight. Ergo, his whole body gets stuck in the sunroof.

[PARAGON]

This thread has been reported to GM, DOJ for raqueteering and conspiracy.

[NEOCON1]

hey walc get me the head and i will put it in a cup of chilli http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif we could work that angle too http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[The Green Lantern]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NEOCON1:


hey man maybe we found a chick even crazier than Bebe http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif wow that would be something http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think she bought this one from Sewel...and I heard she love the pinching and the squeezing... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[walc]

Smart Alec says:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The retard tries to gain friends buy attempting to jest! This is the same H3 group he ridiculed in chat after he sold his H3. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Alec, you are really desperate, if you have to flat-out lie.
I greatly enjoyed my H3 and I have never disparaged the H3 or those who drive it.
You , sir, have no sense of decency nor morals; to wit, you are a lying snake.

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
Smart Alec says:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The retard tries to gain friends buy attempting to jest! This is the same H3 group he ridiculed in chat after he sold his H3. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Alec, you are really desperate, if you have to flat-out lie.
I greatly enjoyed my H3 and I have never disparaged the H3 or those who drive it.
You , sir, have no sense of decency nor morals; to wit, you are a lying snake. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I respectfully submit that you are a defense lawyer. Nuff said http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Alec, You are a coward and a liar.
Quote me, you despicable little twit!

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
This thread has been reported to GM, DOJ for raqueteering and conspiracy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You will have more credibility, if you learn how to spell.
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[The Green Lantern]

Damn, this thread is getting better and better..... I better stay put... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
Smart Alec says:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The retard tries to gain friends buy attempting to jest! This is the same H3 group he ridiculed in chat after he sold his H3. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Alec, you are really desperate, if you have to flat-out lie.
I greatly enjoyed my H3 and I have never disparaged the H3 or those who drive it.
You , sir, have no sense of decency nor morals; to wit, you are a lying snake. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I respectfully submit that you are a defense lawyer. Nuff said http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Alec, You are a coward and a liar.
Quote me, you despicable little twit! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Lucky I saved the chat.

walc: I congenially have to say the H3 was a bad idea
Alec W: really? You didn’t like it?
walc: Subjectivly and categorically, no
Alec W: ok does that mean it sucked?
walc: Yes
walc: And I felt too old to own one given the age of the average H3 owner. They are the quintessential children of the forum
Alec W: wow, some of them are cool IMO
walc: I despise most if not all of them
Alec W: wow! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pathetic, Alec.
You lying poof.
H3 owners have been shown, by Hummer marketing studies, "to have more education, self-esteem and financial acumen than H1 and H2 owners". Therefore, they won't fall for your lies, you little weasel.

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
Pathetic, Alec.
You lying poof.
H3 owners have been shown, by Hummer marketing studies, "to have more education, self-esteem and financial acumen than H1 and H2 owners". Therefore, they won't fall for your lies, you little weasel. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Not lies, I save all the chats for this very purpose. You should think twice before you spout off http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Luckily, you don't write well enough to pretend to be me.
You little pubic headed liar!

[NEOCON1]

oh yea lets stick around http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
my take on the H models and their owners

H3 = we are the kiddies , just learning to walk and falling down often http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif eager but sheepish LOL

H2 = know the ropes but are the teenagers , allways pickin on the kiddies but encouraging us just the same , jealous of little bro who is gettin some of their attention http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

H1 = the adults smart enough not to get into our silly games , but there for us just the same , always willing to spot , give pointers , etc. so we dont get in trouble , laughing under their breaths all the while at the teens and the kiddies http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[trebor]

Well back to the discusion at hand.

Here is a video of my factory sunroof, it works as advertised. I did it twice and the second time seemed to be a little harder, but it still reversed.

Sunroof Video (http://www.manningadventures.com/downloads/100_2590.MOV)

[trebor]

Neocon1, I agree with you the most part but I feel I fall into the H1 catagory but lack the 140K to be a grownup. Maybe if I quit buying all my other toys(hehe) I would finally grow up. In the mean time it is quantity instead of quality.

I love all my 4x4s and especially enjoy not having to worry about tearing up the Hummer, I have a Jeep for that.

[walc]

Here is my post, of 1/30/06, with my opinion of the H3.
"Today, I traded my H3, for a new/leftover 2005 H2 SUT.
I had mixed emotions. My H3 gave me 5700 trouble-free, and fun-filled, miles. However, I got a great deal, on the H2, and a very good trade-in, on the H3."
link (http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5106011751/m/7631020551/r/7631020551#7631020551)
Once again, Alec W(easel), your lies are as pathetic as your grammer and spelling. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by trebor:
Well back to the discusion at hand.

Here is a video of my factory sunroof, it works as advertised. I did it twice and the second time seemed to be a little harder, but it still reversed.

Sunroof Video (http://www.manningadventures.com/downloads/100_2590.MOV) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

trebor,
GM/Hummer will pay you well for that video.
I'm afraid our class action has been still-born.
$$$$ Easy come. Easy go. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[NEOCON1]

how about the head in the bowl of chilli ?

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NEOCON1:
how about the head in the bowl of chilli ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We may have a problem selling that one.
Didn't the Wendy's/finger woman go to jail?
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
Pathetic, Alec.
You lying poof.
H3 owners have been shown, by Hummer marketing studies, "to have more education, self-esteem and financial acumen than H1 and H2 owners". Therefore, they won't fall for your lies, you little weasel. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Not lies, I save all the chats for this very purpose. You should think twice before you spout off http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did you save the one where TGL was being a POS and got his ass handed to him?http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[killian]

This could happen to you:

Sunroof Video (http://www.bluesinheaven.com/pgs/humor/movies/mov/pg01/SportkaCat.mpg)

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
Walc,

Every time I see your name I think of a whelk. I have no idea if the US has whelks but as a kid in a small town in the UK called London my grandfather would take me to Petty Coat Lane market in the East End on a Sunday and smother whelks in white pepper and malt vinegar and make me eat ‘em. As I grew up I started to like them, and jellied eels with white pepper and malt vinegar.

What was I saying?

Never mind </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So, what are you saying, Alec?
You are starting to like me or you want to eat me?

[NEOCON1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by killian:
This could happen to you:

Sunroof Video (http://www.bluesinheaven.com/pgs/humor/movies/mov/pg01/SportkaCat.mpg) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

that is freakin funny man http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[westhillsat]

Here kitty, kitty

[CO Hummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
Walc,

Every time I see your name I think of a whelk. I have no idea if the US has whelks but as a kid in a small town in the UK called London my grandfather would take me to Petty Coat Lane market in the East End on a Sunday and smother whelks in white pepper and malt vinegar and make me eat ‘em. As I grew up I started to like them, and jellied eels with white pepper and malt vinegar.

What was I saying?

Never mind </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

You going to law school now Alec?

Walc = owned. Not legally, mind you.

[f5fstop]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by trebor:
Well back to the discusion at hand.

Here is a video of my factory sunroof, it works as advertised. I did it twice and the second time seemed to be a little harder, but it still reversed.

Sunroof Video (http://www.manningadventures.com/downloads/100_2590.MOV) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mine works that way too. Great video...

Think I'll just sit around and watch the fun...
http://hometown.aol.com/f5fstop01/images/lurk.gif

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
Walc,

Every time I see your name I think of a whelk. I have no idea if the US has whelks but as a kid in a small town in the UK called London my grandfather would take me to Petty Coat Lane market in the East End on a Sunday and smother whelks in white pepper and malt vinegar and make me eat ‘em. As I grew up I started to like them, and jellied eels with white pepper and malt vinegar.

What was I saying?

Never mind </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

You going to law school now Alec?

Walc = owned. Not legally, mind you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

CO,
I guess you, too, want to eat me, with white pepper and malt vinegar.
I'm sorry; but, I'm hetro. Perhaps, you and Alec should start dating. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[The Green Lantern]

DAY 2...and the saga continues.. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
walc, I thought you would do anything to fit in here. It’s a shame you never will. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Alec,
I assume you are out of your drug induced haze.
Maybe, you should reflect upon the poll you posted.
60% of the members want you to leave.
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[HummBebe]

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/TRND/FP2730~Happy-Bunny-Kiss-Posters.jpg

[The Green Lantern]

oh HI Bebe, you missed all the fun. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[HummBebe]

'parently....I'll catchup http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Chip]

This just gave me a great idea. I'll park under an apple tree and ask my Mother in law to reach up and fetch an apple. After the law suit I'll live like a king.

[HummBebe]

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/153/993937~Happy-Bunny-Die-Now-Posters.jpg


Hehe http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
walc, I thought you would do anything to fit in here. It’s a shame you never will. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Alec,
I assume you are out of your drug induced haze.
Maybe, you should reflect upon the poll you posted.
60% of the members want you to leave.
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Why yes they do http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And they can GFThemselves.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[h1nycgod]

Hi all,

Maybe its a wiring problem

[westhillsat]

Tried the sunroof today, it stops and goes back after bumping it with the palm of my hand.

No lawsuit for me http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by westhillsat:
Tried the sunroof today, it stops and goes back after bumping it with the palm of my hand.

No lawsuit for me http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Damn, how is walc going to pay for his transgender journey?

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by westhillsat:
Tried the sunroof today, it stops and goes back after bumping it with the palm of my hand.

No lawsuit for me http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Damn, how is walc going to pay for his transgender journey? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your distribution of child pornography case will keep me busy. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[shipbldr]

I knew Walc would smell blood in the water and show up on this post...

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[profish00]

MINE WORKS

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by westhillsat:
Tried the sunroof today, it stops and goes back after bumping it with the palm of my hand.

No lawsuit for me http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Damn, how is walc going to pay for his transgender journey? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your distribution of child pornography case will keep me busy. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your daughter is 19, so she's legal.

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by westhillsat:
Tried the sunroof today, it stops and goes back after bumping it with the palm of my hand.

No lawsuit for me http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Damn, how is walc going to pay for his transgender journey? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your distribution of child pornography case will keep me busy. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your daughter is 19, so she's legal. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good comeback. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Webb70]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by profish00:
MINE WORKS </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

+1

[Steve - SanJose]

I need to find somebody to try the human sacrifice/sunroof test with.

S.

[1COOLH3]

I tried mine several times today and it did work by lightly pushing back on the glass with my fingers. HOWEVER- I stuck a pair of gloves in between the glass and frame and then closed the sunroof and it closed all the way- if that were fingers they would have been crushed at the least.

I also looked up the sunroof description and operation in the GM Dealer Service Manual and there is no mention of the anti-pinch feature:

Sunroof Description and OperationThe power sunroof is controlled by the sunroof switch through the open and close motor control circuits. Ignition voltage is supplied to the sunroof switch through the retained accessory power (RAP) relay and the sunroof 20A fuse in the underhood BEC. While the sunroof switch is in an inactive state both switch contacts are closed to the sunroof switch ground circuit. When an open or close button is pressed on the sunroof switch, its switch contact is closed to the voltage supply circuit. The motor is bi-directional and the direction of motor rotation is determined by which of the motor control circuits is switched to positive voltage while the other remains grounded.

[PackerFever]

I made the mistake of watching that Cat video and have been kind of disturbed since...more so than usual. I will not make the mistake of letting Mrs Fever see it though. I guess curiosity killed the cat. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[f5fstop]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 1COOLH3:
I tried mine several times today and it did work by lightly pushing back on the glass with my fingers. HOWEVER- I stuck a pair of gloves in between the glass and frame and then closed the sunroof and it closed all the way- if that were fingers they would have been crushed at the least.

I also looked up the sunroof description and operation in the GM Dealer Service Manual and there is no mention of the anti-pinch feature:

Sunroof Description and OperationThe power sunroof is controlled by the sunroof switch through the open and close motor control circuits. Ignition voltage is supplied to the sunroof switch through the retained accessory power (RAP) relay and the sunroof 20A fuse in the underhood BEC. While the sunroof switch is in an inactive state both switch contacts are closed to the sunroof switch ground circuit. When an open or close button is pressed on the sunroof switch, its switch contact is closed to the voltage supply circuit. The motor is bi-directional and the direction of motor rotation is determined by which of the motor control circuits is switched to positive voltage while the other remains grounded. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

From the owner's manual:
Anti-Pinch Feature
If an object is in the path of the sunroof when it is closing, the anti-pinch feature will detect the object and stop the sunroof from closing at the point of the obstruction. The sunroof will then return to the full-open
or vent position, and the air deflector will raise.

I would also like to point out that a pair of gloves will not offer the resistance required to stop the sunroof and reverse it. A pencil will stop it, as well as fingers.

How it works (not in the service manual), but I will assume it operates similar to any Valeo or Wabasto sunroof with the anti-pinch feature. There is an internal quick blow circuit breaker built into the motor. A set resistance to the sunroof glass causes the breaker to break the circuit, stopping the sunroof movement. The module senses the break in the circuit, and that it is not fully closed or open, and reverses direction.

I will say it will pinch, but it certainly did not break my fingers or even leave a mark that lasted more than 30 seconds.

If some are not operating corrrectly, I would guess the motor module has to be replaced.

[lotus4s]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Webb70:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by profish00:
MINE WORKS </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

+1 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


X 2....

[Klint]

Sh** i think the thing should cut off your finger if you have it in it... If you're dumb enough to stick your finger in it and close it then you don't need that finger http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[walc]

Good point, Klint.
That is the major weakness in our class action suit.
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[Bill1065]

I tried mine twice. I tapped it with my wrist about midway to closing and it reversed. I then tapped it about 3 to 5 inches to closing with the wrist; it did reverse. The second time scared me; I didn't want my hand to end up like the cat head in the commercial.

[CO Hummer]

This thread reminds me of the time I tested my new pistol's saftey. I flipped it on and tried as hard as I could to pull the trigger while I held it against my temple.

[H3less]

I hate when that happens!

[walc]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
This thread reminds me of the time I tested my new pistol's saftey. I flipped it on and tried as hard as I could to pull the trigger while I held it against my temple. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMAO
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[f5fstop]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
This thread reminds me of the time I tested my new pistol's saftey. I flipped it on and tried as hard as I could to pull the trigger while I held it against my temple. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Evidently, the safety worked....http://hometown.aol.com/f5fstop01/images/yellow%20rolling%20on%20floor%20laughing.gif

[HummerNewbie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by f5fstop:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
This thread reminds me of the time I tested my new pistol's saftey. I flipped it on and tried as hard as I could to pull the trigger while I held it against my temple. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Evidently, the safety worked....http://hometown.aol.com/f5fstop01/images/yellow%20rolling%20on%20floor%20laughing.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Or you are a really...REALLY bad shot! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[killian]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PackerFever:
I made the mistake of watching that Cat video and have been kind of disturbed since... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here's the one they did before the sunroof video:


Bird (http://www.bluesinheaven.com/pgs/humor/movies/mov/pg01/SportkaBird.mov)

[oneworld]

Hey Killian long time > that was excellent. abosultly perfect. This is the stupidist conversation, in the forum. Hdfatboy Take the stick out of your ass and put it through the open sunroof, then press the close button, when glass PINCHES the f--king stick, IT WILL REOPEN> DA their is no secret here guys. It will not sense something in the path and reopen before it hits it, HENCE THE WORD PINCH. The glass has to PINCH something first. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
I hope I have helped give this converstaion an enema. KILLIAN THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO OF BIRD

[oneworld]

Alec I read this conver yesterday so what kinda of jerk am I > In the gas station today I opened my roof then stuck the icescraper in the opening > AND YES IT WORKED ONCE THE GLASS PINCHED THE STICK. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Just building karma

[DRTYFN]

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