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Nick Danger
02-01-2006, 12:35 AM
I did a brief once over on the truck before making my final deal. I picked it up after dark...WOOPS.
Anyone else had this problem? Do I have any recourse?

TIA

Nick Danger
02-01-2006, 12:35 AM
I did a brief once over on the truck before making my final deal. I picked it up after dark...WOOPS.
Anyone else had this problem? Do I have any recourse?

TIA

hmrlvr
02-01-2006, 12:48 AM
Check out this previous thread

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/2706067735/m/8...691012641#1691012641 (http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/2706067735/m/8621031641/r/1691012641#1691012641)

Nick Danger
02-01-2006, 01:00 AM
Thanks...I guess, I'll deal with it without the dealer..LOL..wet sanding..etc..maybe this spring. Thanks for fast feedback- great board this is.

Huck BB62
02-01-2006, 05:15 AM
How bad is it? We had a bad area on our Mini Cooper S I found AFTER I got it home (sound familiar?) I worked it over with a Zaino Bros. claybar and it was smooth as glass. It's worth a try if they won't fix it. (I love Zaino Bros, it's awesome)

jp's-h3
02-03-2006, 06:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Huck BB62:
How bad is it? We had a bad area on our Mini Cooper S I found AFTER I got it home (sound familiar?) I worked it over with a Zaino Bros. claybar and it was smooth as glass. It's worth a try if they won't fix it. (I love Zaino Bros, it's awesome) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey Huck BB62!
how about a little more info re. Zaino Bros. claybar. and where can I get some! Thanks! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

evomind
02-03-2006, 07:25 PM
theyre all orange peeled from the factory.
i dont know of any american made car that isnt. basically, as someone alluded to, they dont do a final step in the process of sanding and buffing.
basically, this is normal from the factory as they sell them. unless urs is worse than any other which i doubt.

evomind
02-03-2006, 07:25 PM
its most noticeable on black, btw

Mike E
02-03-2006, 08:30 PM
I did the clay bar and followed up with my random orbital polisher with wax. My black H3 turned out perfect. I highly reccomend it.

f5fstop
02-03-2006, 10:54 PM
I believe the internet address is www.zainobros.com (http://www.zainobros.com). However, any good claybar (mothers, etc.) will work the same, and I love Zaino finishes.
However, I cannot believe a claybar will remove orange peel. It will remove foreign substances in the paint, and if your vehicle was shipped by rail, you could have what is called rail dust. If the orange peel affect is primarily on horizontal surfaces, I would hazard a guess and say it is rail dust or other contaminants.
Dealers are paid to remove rail dust, but most don't do it. GM authorizes the use of a claybar or Oxalic acid, either will work, but a claybar, which takes longer, is safer.
I'm not a paint expert, but I do work with some, and every time I have had problems with paint, I have called on them, and never have they said to claybar for orange peel.

Important thing is if it is bad, have the dealer send it out for a professional buffing. Make sure they don't let the lube rack dude do it, or you will have bigger problems.

H3HUMVEE
02-04-2006, 12:04 AM
How does the clay bar work? Dose it just pick up contaminants off of the paint surface as you rub it with the bar? do you have to fold it or something to expose a fresh surface as it gets dirty? I have seen these in stores just not sure how they worked.

Mike E
02-04-2006, 12:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3HUMVEE:
How does the clay bar work? Dose it just pick up contaminants off of the paint surface as you rub it with the bar? do you have to fold it or something to expose a fresh surface as it gets dirty? I have seen these in stores just not sure how they worked. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes and Yes. Makes the surface clean and free of contaminants. A great prep before applying wax. your paint will be a slick as ever!

CorvetteOJ
02-05-2006, 12:04 PM
I am one of the world's greatest advocats of Zaino products. I have used all of it on my vettes since 98 including the clay bar. I honestly do not believe there is anything on the market that can compare, especially for dark colors.

I used the clay bar to remove heavy overspray from my new 98 Vette back in '99. The overspray was compliments of a dumbass in a body shop co-located with an upholstery shop I was visiting at the time. The clay bar made it like new again in less than two hours. I sent the body shop a bill for $100 and they paid me.

I generally use the clay bar a couple times a year just to keep the surface of the vette perfect. You can get there 800 number from the web page previously listed and ask for Sal Zaino, he is the ultimate guru. He will talk to you on the phone like you are the only customer he has. He is great! They also have a lot of info on there web page you can print with explicit "how to" details. Hope this helps, good luck.

NEOCON1
02-05-2006, 01:53 PM
just think of the orange peel as tougher and thicker http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif zaino rocks http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif hey F5 nov of 99 i did the corvette forum order thru the other ken @ chuck hutton chevrolet in memphis flew back and picked up my FRC and drove back to cali . i met RAT " ram air tony " in Oklahoma and got my first zaino products nothin but zaino on the vette since new. remember the pics of guys with 10-20-and even more coats http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif looks like glass . i have read and used your advice for years on c5 and now h3 thanks alot ! how do you manage to make the rounds on all the forums man ? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif