H2 is not a real Hummer

[Steve R]

The H2 is not a real Hummer...it's the ULTIMATE Hummer!

Do people realize the H1 is made from a compilalation of SEVERAL parts made by Ford, Chevy, Chysler and many many MANY other manufacturers? Does that make it any less real??

I'm involved in a club with plenty of H1's...and let me tell you from first-hand experience: these things have HUGE maintainance, regularly breakdown and suffer from poor engineering "like nothing else". Every event we run I have 4-6 guys with broken rigs. Half-shafts, u-joints, idlers arms, ball-joints, radiators, CTIS leaks, over-heating problems, etc, etc...

If you put your ear to one, you can almost hear the thing ticking....

Even brand spakin' new they have their issues. About the best thing that ever happened to Hummer was putting far more reliable, affordable, dependable and accessible GM parts in it. I've had mine for 2+ years and offroaded the heck out of it: it's been AWESOME!

Some of our parts came from the GM "parts basket".....newsflash: it's a good thing!

And those F-tards who'll tell you it's not a real Hummer: ask them why....they have no clue, they're just spouting crap predicated on nothing more then an intent to upset you and deal with their own insecurity knowing they'll never be able to afford either one!

I know very few drivers who can actually use their H1 to go places the H2 can't. The greater ability of the H1 comes into play infrequently. AND, sometimes it's the H2 that can do the job better, faster and easier then the H1:

Me and Horace (H2Finally) jammed through the Jonh Bull Trail easier and with less issue then the H1's. On Gold Mountain...we waited 15 minutes for them to catch up...and all the while we enjoyed a functional air conditioning, a great stereo and a far more comfortable ride.

Yeah, the H1 can out-do the H2 in some situations...but 99% of the time & mileage the H2 delivers more. I'm not willing to give up all that comfort, reliability and versatility for those super-infrequent times when the H1 could do it better.

Every vehicle has its pro's & con's, even the Suzuki Samarui can do things the Hummers can't and vice-versa. It's an un-even field.

Bottom line, when you compare features, value, reliability, versatility and all-around capability...the H2 delivers HUGE. As far as what I want from a vehicle...it categorically blows away ALL the competition, and since I bought it for me (and not the guy flippin' the burgers or working the french-fry machine)...that's all that matters!

I rest my case, if that doesn't work, bite me! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Steve R]

The H2 is not a real Hummer...it's the ULTIMATE Hummer!

Do people realize the H1 is made from a compilalation of SEVERAL parts made by Ford, Chevy, Chysler and many many MANY other manufacturers? Does that make it any less real??

I'm involved in a club with plenty of H1's...and let me tell you from first-hand experience: these things have HUGE maintainance, regularly breakdown and suffer from poor engineering "like nothing else". Every event we run I have 4-6 guys with broken rigs. Half-shafts, u-joints, idlers arms, ball-joints, radiators, CTIS leaks, over-heating problems, etc, etc...

If you put your ear to one, you can almost hear the thing ticking....

Even brand spakin' new they have their issues. About the best thing that ever happened to Hummer was putting far more reliable, affordable, dependable and accessible GM parts in it. I've had mine for 2+ years and offroaded the heck out of it: it's been AWESOME!

Some of our parts came from the GM "parts basket".....newsflash: it's a good thing!

And those F-tards who'll tell you it's not a real Hummer: ask them why....they have no clue, they're just spouting crap predicated on nothing more then an intent to upset you and deal with their own insecurity knowing they'll never be able to afford either one!

I know very few drivers who can actually use their H1 to go places the H2 can't. The greater ability of the H1 comes into play infrequently. AND, sometimes it's the H2 that can do the job better, faster and easier then the H1:

Me and Horace (H2Finally) jammed through the Jonh Bull Trail easier and with less issue then the H1's. On Gold Mountain...we waited 15 minutes for them to catch up...and all the while we enjoyed a functional air conditioning, a great stereo and a far more comfortable ride.

Yeah, the H1 can out-do the H2 in some situations...but 99% of the time & mileage the H2 delivers more. I'm not willing to give up all that comfort, reliability and versatility for those super-infrequent times when the H1 could do it better.

Every vehicle has its pro's & con's, even the Suzuki Samarui can do things the Hummers can't and vice-versa. It's an un-even field.

Bottom line, when you compare features, value, reliability, versatility and all-around capability...the H2 delivers HUGE. As far as what I want from a vehicle...it categorically blows away ALL the competition, and since I bought it for me (and not the guy flippin' the burgers or working the french-fry machine)...that's all that matters!

I rest my case, if that doesn't work, bite me! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Dan]

troll http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[YJorDie]

How you can say that a chevy tahoe is more of a hummer than an H1 is beyond me.

It does illustrate the mentality that you guys seem to have though....which is an absolute lack of any automotive knowledge in general. Otherwise you wouldn't have bought an overpriced tahoe.

[Beastmaster]

Out of curiosity, who is this rant aimed towards?

[Spike]

originally posted by KYJellydie,
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Otherwise you wouldn't have bought an overpriced tahoe. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Good one!........JERKOFF!!!!!!

[Albie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dan:
troll http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
ROTF.......... Dan that was classic..........

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by YJorDie:
How you can say that a chevy tahoe is more of a hummer than an H1 is beyond me.

It does illustrate the mentality that you guys seem to have though....which is an absolute lack of any automotive knowledge in general. Otherwise you wouldn't have bought an overpriced tahoe. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Ok, once again. What exactly are the components on an H2 that is shared with a Tahoe, Mr. automotive knowledge.

Beastmaster, don't mind Steve, he is a goad and it is not directed at H1 owners.

[KenP]

Nice Dan. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Beastmaster]

Acutally, I know it's not aimed at H1 owners. I'm just curious what brought it on.

I know that trolls invade boards and mailing lists of all sorts, so I'm figuring that's the likely reason. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:


Beastmaster, don't mind Steve, he is a goad and it is not directed at H1 owners. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[ShaggyX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
Ok, once again. What exactly are the components on an H2 that is shared with a Tahoe, Mr. automotive knowledge.

Beastmaster, don't mind Steve, he is a goad and it is not directed at H1 owners. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I thought it was a 3/4 ton Frame with some beefed up Suburban Parts...Right??? Overpriced Suburban just doesn't have the same ring to it though. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Steve R]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Beastmaster:
Out of curiosity, who is this rant aimed towards? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Enitrely & exclusively aimed at those who would say "The H2 is not a real Hummer" and put it down based on it's having GM parts...

Not H1 owners, unless they have a sticker on their bumper or attitude against the H2.

Inspiraiton was the recent troll attack and an inability to fall asleep...coupled with an urge to write something.

[Steve R]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dan:
troll http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Didn't you used to post as HummerMan? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Dan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Steve R:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dan:
troll http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Didn't you used to post as HummerMan? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Didn't you used to post as hetero? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Yetti]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I thought it was a 3/4 ton Frame with some beefed up Suburban Parts...Right??? Overpriced Suburban just doesn't have the same ring to it though. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I for one priced out New Burbs. The one reason I went to the H2 was price...its a mear $3000 difference between the two.

[H2Finally]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Steve R:
Me and H2Finally jammed through the John Bull Trail easier and with less issue then the H1's. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Damn, and I thought it was driver skill all along... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Steve R]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dan:
Didn't you used to post as hetero? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Didn't you used to post as JeepChick? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Dan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Steve R:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dan:
Didn't you used to post as hetero? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Didn't you used to post as JeepChick? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

See now you're just fantasizing. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[10 MPG]

I have to agree with Yetti, a H2 isn't much more in cost than a fully loaded suburban/Denali. With almost 33K trouble free miles, my H2 has served it's purpose well. And to use the argument that an H2 is a GM vehicle is stupid... look at DailmerChrysler, Ford/Jaguar/etc, parts-platforms-etc are cross engineered for more products at affordable prices....I think the consumer wins (most of the time).

[Steve R]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dan:
See now you're just fantasizing. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Didn't you....uh, you used to...I thought....

Do'h!!!!!!

[DiscoDancingRover]

So could you say the H1 is similar to a 95 discovery?

[ROX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Yetti:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I thought it was a 3/4 ton Frame with some beefed up Suburban Parts...Right??? Overpriced Suburban just doesn't have the same ring to it though. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I for one priced out New Burbs. The one reason I went to the H2 was price...its a mear $3000 difference between the two. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yetti, we almost made the mistake of buying an Excursion. I've driven a Ford lately, and let me tell you, the off roading with the Hummer IS second to none. I'm glad I did it. However, I do miss the towing capacity and my diesel. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[ROX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DiscoDancingRover:
So could you say the H1 is similar to a 95 discovery? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not even close. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
You could fit 2 Discos side by side inside the H1 and still have room for the cooler. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Then all three could be broken down on the side of the trail together. One tow truck. etc. etc.

[Steve R]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DiscoDancingRover:
So could you say the H1 is similar to a 95 discovery? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Please don't knock the LR's http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Nahhh...I'm not really trying to put the H1's down, they're cool and I'm actually putting together a plan to buy one (proving I'm definitely not thinking with any semblence of intelligence).

I'm just thoroughly fed-up with people knockin' the 2 cause it's "not" an H1. Given the niche is occupies..the 2 is a great vehicle and should be given some credit.

Ya know, I still see D90's and get nostalgic.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Hi H2Finaly
I see where You have chrome flames and wanted to ask You to PM Me with pictures of Your Baby.
I think Chrome flames would realy look good on My Steath Grey. If You would give Me some pointers on who to look for to do flames?
Specialty painter, very good air brush specialised. What kind of criteria did You look for in the painter or if they are a decal that would be alright I think so where would I get
such a chrome flame kit.
H2Finaly I apprecate Your help on this!!
Thanks for the kind words You shared with other team members.
TAZ (Rick)


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Steve R:
Me and H2Finally jammed through the John Bull Trail easier and with less issue then the H1's. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Damn, and I thought it was _driver skill_ all along... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]

[ROX]

TAZ, sometimes the funnest place to shop for little chrome things is in the truck stop.
They have everything for the big rigs. You might find something you really like. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[DiscoDancingRover]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Steve R:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DiscoDancingRover:
So could you say the H1 is similar to a 95 discovery? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Please don't knock the LR's http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Nahhh...I'm not really trying to put the H1's down, they're cool and I'm actually putting together a plan to buy one (proving I'm definitely not thinking with any semblence of intelligence).

I'm just thoroughly fed-up with people knockin' the 2 cause it's "not" an H1. Given the niche is occupies..the 2 is a great vehicle and should be given some credit.

Ya know, I still see D90's and get nostalgic. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It is an H1 thing, you wouldn't understand...Oh and yes I have seen so many d90s in the past week near school. It is sad, they are all poseurs, it is actually like a little poseur land rover community. And Rocks, I don't know, might be a tight fit... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[ROX]

QUOTE]

It is an H1 thing, you wouldn't understand...Oh and yes I have seen so many d90s in the past week near school. It is sad, they are all poseurs, it is actually like a little poseur land rover community. And Rocks, I don't know, might be a tight fit... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]

Yeah.. The cooler might not make it. Especially the way I pack. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
What is a poseur? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif Is that French?

[DiscoDancingRover]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by H2 Rocks:
What is a poseur? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif Is that French? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually yes it is. It is a person who buys a vehicle, but does not use it for what it is made for. Like all the D90 owners who own them, but don't use them except to go to the mall.

[ROX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DiscoDancingRover:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by H2 Rocks:
What is a poseur? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif Is that French? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually yes it is. It is a person who buys a vehicle, but does not use it for what it is made for. Like all the D90 owners who own them, but don't use them except to go to the mall. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the French lesson. And the D90 lesson. Guess I've learned my lesson. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif