RV today on the outdoor channel, H3 featured.

[Huck BB62]

They had a blue luxury package H3 towing a 3000lb travel trailer. Neat to see. They liked it just fine.

[Huck BB62]

They had a blue luxury package H3 towing a 3000lb travel trailer. Neat to see. They liked it just fine.

[H3 Builder]

If anyone wants to see a replay of this, it's on again 1-27 @1:00 PM central, 1-31 @1:00 PM central and 2-2 @1:00 PM central.
Also 0n 2-22 @ 1:00 PM central, take a Hummer ride in the vast Pismo dunes.

[Grandman]

I am a towman , its my job . You wont see me towing 3,000 lb trailer behind my H3 for safty reasons .

Towing ability is set on any new vehicle with optimum conditions , in short there over rated .

This combination you speak of is ok for an experienced tower . some one who has knowledge of towing heavy stuff all the time . Other wise its the sort thing that keeps me in bussiness an able to write a check for my H 3 http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Huck BB62]

Really Grandman? The trailer was a full half a ton UNDER the rating for the H3. A good Prodigy brake controller, appropriate load leveling hitch with sway helper and it's no problem at all. In large part, the stability of a tow is in the weight and stability of the tow vehicle. The H3 is HEAVY, rigid, and super stout for it's size. This is no unibody with a hitch stuck to the bumper sub assembly here, this is a Hummer H3 with a frame, substantial rear springs.

I think a 3000-3500 lb. travel trailer is WELL within the rating for the H3.

I've done some hairy tows before.

A 10,000lb container/trailer on a hitch, no load leveler. It was horrible. I'd never do that one again.

My boat for miles and miles and miles. It was about 6,500 lbs loaded with fuel. Heavy, and only had a surge brake. The boat and trailer almost outweighed my truck!
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My car hauler with various loads behind our truck and Yukon. 7000lbs, again, no special hitch. It towed like a dream, great brake controller.
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That H3/travel trailer scenario is safe.

[Waiting on my Black H3]

What network is it on??

[ree]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waiting on my Black H3 who is unable to read the subject line:
What network is it on?? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Fixed http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[HIHUMMER]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waiting on my Black H3 who is unable to read the subject line:
What network is it on?? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Fixed http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's Friday...cut 'em some slack. My brain isn't working either! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[wannabeH3]

how bout towin a 20 foot flatbed trailer with 4 motorcycles on it thru the northern mountains of cali at 90mph while everyone is asleep, then wakes up from the gforces imposed on them hahahaha that trip was so fun! call me a yahoo but i think the danger makes it funner! just kidding dont flame me or ill talk about your puckered ass!

[RIC-H0]

I have to agree about having fun with a squirly trailer. I've been whipped around by 3 ATVs on a 16foot trailer, being towed by my Jeep Unlimited. Gets pretty scary, but feels good when you finally get back in control. The best part is finally getting to your destination, and seeing how much mud actaully gets flung onto the trailer and it's contents! I picked up atleast a couple hundred pounds on Texas topsoil by the end of my trip! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Ric-H0

[jp's-h3]

Is that OLN (outdoor life network)?

[ree]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jp's-h3:
Is that OLN (outdoor life network)? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, it's "the outdoor channel" just like the subject says ( http://www.outdoorchannel.com/ ). OLN is a separate station ( http://www.olntv.com/).

Do you and "Waiting on my Black H3" need reading lessons? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

When in doubt, google it (http://www.google.com/search?q=the+outdoor+channel).

[fourfourto]

I dont get the outdoor channel odc I called cablevision they tell me 4.99 a month more for the package that includes odc.I did look at the programing and I see nothing about towing or the h3.Whats the program called and is it on another channel also ?.

[fourfourto]

On odc websight found some videos one 4x4 one no H3link go to page 3 4x4 (http://outdoorchannel.com/index2.cfm?ss=145&site=3)

[jp's-h3]

Saw the show, nice to here the pos. comments about the H3 (It's on the OLN Channel). http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Grandman]

Your saying a 3,000 Travel trailer . Im not so worried about towing 3,000 lbs with the H 3 as i am the lenght the trailer is . Im guessing 24' or more ?

Thats what worries me on your question . Those have a tendency to sway , some trailers tow much better then others but one that tends to sway and weighs 3,000lb could put you in a situation for a nasty ride .

With my years of experinece id say around 3,500 should be max for a H3 that weighs 4,700 ?

They give you a rating which is all most equal to the weight of your H3 , that is never a good idea . Is the dog wagging the tail , or the tail wagging the dog at that point .

[fourfourto]

jp's-h3
Hummer Veteran

Posted Jan 27, 2:59 PM
Saw the show, nice to here the pos. comments about the H3 (It's on the OLN Channel).


I get OLN channel http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif what was the name of the show and when is it on again.

[Huck BB62]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Grandman:
Your saying a 3,000 Travel trailer . Im not so worried about towing 3,000 lbs with the H 3 as i am the lenght the trailer is . Im guessing 24' or more ?

Thats what worries me on your question . Those have a tendency to sway , some trailers tow much better then others but one that tends to sway and weighs 3,000lb could put you in a situation for a nasty ride .

With my years of experinece id say around 3,500 should be max for a H3 that weighs 4,700 ?

They give you a rating which is all most equal to the weight of your H3 , that is never a good idea . Is the dog wagging the tail , or the tail wagging the dog at that point . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There's a couple of things that contribute to a sway problem. Incorrect tongue weight is the major one. A great, well set up, load leveling hitch with a sway preventer and the trailer being loaded properly with good properly set up trailer brakes makes for a nice safe tow. The H3 has a few points that make it a great tow vehicle. It' wide stance for it's size, it's low center of gravity, great four wheel disc brakes, not having much vehicle length behind the wheels, solid frame and chassis all help.

This is a good discussion! I've seen some bad wrecks from trailers set up wrong, so I can definitely see your concerns.

[Grandman]

Perhpas as huck points out really its the person not the truck that cuases most trailer crashs .

Knowledge on the subject is your best prevention . Take time to learn how to properly tow somthing before you head out . If you have little experience in pulling trailers seek info first . A travel trailer should all ready be built to carry the correct tongue weight but loading a tralier such as a car hauler its up to you to get it right .

[Alan06SUT]

SWB < LWB for towing. What is H3 Whelbase?

[Huck BB62]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
SWB < LWB for towing. What is H3 Whelbase? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What helps the H3 in the towing department is that the wheels are closer to the hitch. If this distance is increased (with the exception of the four wheel steer GM products) the hitch goes the opposite direction from the intended direction of travel. When you hit the brakes in a corner, or jerk the wheel to avoid something, this causes the trailer to push the back end of the tow vehicle towards the direction that you don't want to go and sets up a bad sway. It really helps to not have a receiver hitch, it should be as short as you can make it. Longer wheelbase does help for stability, but that isn't the whole of it.

[jp's-h3]

RV Today on OLN 1/31, 1:00 PM CENTRAL

[Grandman]

Your owners manual has some good info on towing i see . Did you know the stick shift is only rated to pull 3,000 the auto trans is rated at 4,500 .

Read it carefully and you will see what im saying about " perfect contditions " for there rating . Add one person , subtract that from the weight you can tow .

[Huck BB62]

Just curious as to why the auto is rated for that much more. Anyone know?

[Grandman]

Hydrulic engagement , other words the auto is smooth to take off with . The stick is more harsh and the clutch would be short lived .

[fourfourto]

Is there away to get a factory hitch bumper instead of going aftermarket ? price ?

[fourfourto]

RV Today on OLN 1/31,TODAY ch 408 on cablevision of long island 2pm eastern time.
Dont miss it I dont know when its on again.

[fourfourto]

Its on now http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[thedieter]

I saw that show and enjoyed it. I kept thinking the guy was going to go over those big rocks in fromt of him. I guess it is a Hummer thing.

Best regards, Happy Jack

[evldave]

I'm confused about why people are saying the auto should only tow 3,000 pounds. I'm no expert, with years of towing experience as advertised by others here (well, except towing a fishing boat for the last 10 years, oh, and a quad trailer, oh yeah, and an occasional car hauler, and I guess I should include the 24' prowler camper trailer I pull every winter throught the Columbia River Gorge in Wa State).

BUT...I'll put my GM lawyer hat on for a moment.

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>Let's publish the H3 can tow 4,700lbs
Bob decides to tow a 4,500 lb trailer.
Bob wrecks and kills the son of a lawyer (Bob lives in California)
Said sad lawyer sues GM for $250 million in California and the jury decides to throw in an extra $100 million because they can.[/list]

Why would GM be stupid enough to put 4,700 lbs in the manual if there was even a small remote chance it was unsafe in any normal condition?

I can't think they would do that - so I think SAFE towing capacity comes solely down to the driver. I've got video of some jerkoff pulling a camper trailer in the snow backwards and upside down in the Blue Mtns of eastern Oregon - I passed him pulling a ~4k hunting boat with chains on (my Suburban, not the H3). I've pulled over the rated tow weight of the vehicle, but I do it slow and safe, not 60mph in the snow.