Navigation System for Europe

[Flubbie]

Hi,

I'm looking for a navigation system for my H2 03. The problem is that a navigation system of the 04 or 05 would work but the problem is that I cannot add the maps for Europe.
Or can I?

What other GPS system would you suggest?

[Flubbie]

Hi,

I'm looking for a navigation system for my H2 03. The problem is that a navigation system of the 04 or 05 would work but the problem is that I cannot add the maps for Europe.
Or can I?

What other GPS system would you suggest?

[Hart1]

Garman has base maps and detailed maps of the EU for the 176 model, and others.

I would live the H2's nav for Mexico......

[Flubbie]

Would that mean that I can buy a GPS navigation system in US and load the maps from Europe on it?

Were would I be able to find the DVD (maps)? And the navigation system?

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Flubbie:
Would that mean that I can buy a GPS navigation system in US and load the maps from Europe on it?

Were would I be able to find the DVD (maps)? And the navigation system? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey Flubbie!

I've been doing some research on this one. First, the problem is not that you can't find maps. I'm sure that there are plenty of maps if you are living in a any part of the western world. The problem is that H2 is been buildt in US and it has the Nav system that is buildt is US as well. So the DVDs that has the base maps are in region 1 DVDs not region 2 as would be all in Europe. So basically you have two ways to go, assuming that the GPS map technology is standardized:

1. You buy the stock H2 nav system and you get your region 2 map DVD and have it redone to region 1 (I don't know how but I'm pretty sure it can be done).

2. You get yourself an aftermarket nav system that supports region 2 DVDs. It's hard to find any of these that would fit into the factory slot in H2, so you either get one of those Pioneer or Apline ones that for me atleast look goofy, or you get an external nav system like the one below (which looks kinda cool to me)

http://www.marinea.fi/shop/images/Garmin/sp2620_2.jpg

For example, this one has all the Western Europe maps downloaded into it by standard.

What I know about most DVD-players though, is that most DVD-players have cheat codes so that you can get them to work properly in any reagion 1-6 (manufacturers save money). I don't know if the GM factory DVD has one. I haven't searched the net but if there is an opportunity for it I'm sure it is in the net.

I'm currently thinking of getting the factory nav system to my forcoming 2006 H2 and then have somebody to redo my region 2 DVDs to Region 1. I'm sure it is not a rocket science...

If you find a way to do a breakthrough, let me know..

thanks!

[Flubbie]

Hi,

yes you are correct about the regions. But I know wht

[Flubbie]

Dammn to fast on the "post now" clicked.

I know that Hummer has some official dealers in Europe so I'm wondering what they are putting in as DVD navigation system.
I'm going to inform me on that.

I have a friend that has this one in his car. (http://www.pioneer-eur.com/eur/product_detail.jsp?product_id=10319&taxonomy_id=25-111)

And I think if I don't have a answer from Hummer Europe that I'm going to put this into my car.

I'm not so happy with this garmin GPS system because it's only the navigation system. Also if maps would change then we cannot update it (but I'm not sure of that)

thanks anyway.

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Flubbie:
Dammn to fast on the "post now" clicked.

I know that Hummer has some official dealers in Europe so I'm wondering what they are putting in as DVD navigation system.
I'm going to inform me on that.

I have a friend that has this one in his car. (http://www.pioneer-eur.com/eur/product_detail.jsp?product_id=10319&taxonomy_id=25-111)

And I think if I don't have a answer from Hummer Europe that I'm going to put this into my car.

I'm not so happy with this garmin GPS system because it's only the navigation system. Also if maps would change then we cannot update it (but I'm not sure of that)

thanks anyway. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There is no Hummer Europe, atleast not yet. Craymans Corporation in Netherlands will be officially importing Hummers starting end of this year. So, I would not expect to get European Nav system before that. However if there are nav systems for other GM built trucks and SUVs there could be a nav system available. GM dealer in Finland didn't have one for me though. I also thought that if Hummer nav system could read (i don't know if it does) CDs the regional coding would not be a problem. If there is somebody that knows something about that please share the info!

Garmin can be updated vie USB any time, so if there are map updates you can update your navigation system.

Thanks!

btw, you can delete messed up messages by pressing delete link on the EDIT OR DELETE -button!

[ROX]

FWIW, I use the Garmin 2620, and I like it! I use the beanbag mount so it doesn't slide all over and then I can take it off the dash when I'm not using it. I can also put it in another car if I need too. The maps for the U.S. are very detailed and can be downloaded online.

Sorry I can't help more. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Dan]

Nice avatar Flubbie! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://users.pandora.be/desneppe/pictures/the_untouchable3.jpg

[Flubbie]

BTW Dan yours is SUPER. If this is your girlfriend/wife or whatever she can always have a drive with me (maybe with my Hummy) http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Ashley]

There are "dealers" in Europe, the UK one has told me hummer are returning the RADIO for UK frequencies but there is no offer of the DVD navigation OR the rear monitors and DVD system.

I need to do some sums here as i was told the DVD navigation is standard fit to the USA one i looked (in CA). I am in the UK.

To be honest though i like the rear screens (alot) but the DVD navigation would have been fitted for sale value, i have a feeling going down another route might be an idea, does the RADIO / DVD navigation unit do anything else to the truck (H2) or is it JUST that, a radio system?

I know there are rear controls for the radio as well, how do these work and integrate with the existing radio and DVD navigation set-up?

This is something in the UK since about 2003 that is designed by the manufacturer and cant be removed, you use it a like it, cant fit your own and if you do manage it (as there not DIN units) then you loose all the toys like "rear radio control" etc..

[Ernie Italy]

I live in Italy... contact by e-mail Christian at Service@hummeritaly.com
He can help you. I think that there are some settings as for the cd-radio system (that in US use only .1 .3 .5 .7 .9 frequencies).

[Ernie Italy]

Ashley , if I have understand, Kenwood have a double DIN system that fit perfectly on H2 (this is on my xmas wish list).

[Flubbie]

Hi,

I'm from belgium. I did some calls to US and there they told me that there was a 'official' dealer in Holland. This is for the complete BeNeLux. (http://www.kroymanshummerutrecht.nl/)

However the navigation system that Hummer is providing as standard for the US is not working here. They don't even have the EUROPE maps for it.
What the 'official' dealer suggested is to put a Kenwood or Pioneer system into it.


I would rather still love to have the standard navigation system from Hummer into mine.

[Ernie Italy]

Right , but try to mail to christian as say that you are a member of Hummer forum... sometimes they have solution that do not say normally... The only problem is that your H2 (like mine) is not "official europe" and the "official" dealer do not want to help you.

[Flubbie]

Yes that's rigth. They are not really helping you.

However the garage where I'm going to right now is very willing to help. He's a independent dealer of USA cars
But he told me the same about the navigation system. He recommends a Pioneer or something else.

PJ

[Ashley]

Hi

Yes i understand about the steps for the radio had this altered on my 49 state Goldwing bike...

Question is though does the system integrate as the H2 LUX has the rear radio controls so that must talk to a radio some how and a Pioneer unit surely wont work with these controls.

Also i was assured there are no "country specs" on the models other than alterations for things like lights and thats done locally in the country rather than by Hummer, other than the Radio, i was told by the UK Dealer thats hummer doing that and them NOT supplying the DVD navigation as it wont work...

Its mainly integration i am asking about, i am sure you can put what you like it but how will that effect the rear controls for the rear passengers.

[Ernie Italy]

I need to talk with someone....

[Rene S. Nielsen]

Hi

I have the Kenwood DDX-7025 this model fits into the Hummer H2 slot.

It has touch screen, and All of europe on 1 dvd, which is mounted in a seperate DVD reader.

This means that you will be able to play dvds and have navigation in the same time.

It has a second video out, wich means you can display DVD on your rear screen while you have navigation up front.


I'm woorking on findeing the right pac-audio to fit into the car so the steering wheel remote continues to work.

I don't get my new Hummer H2 until 14 Januar 2006, but I'm gathering all the items

Regards
Rene

[W1N]

I'm getting that Kenwood also.

There are oem Nav systems that are double din sizes for Corvettes that GM imports to Europe. You guys should check that out as an option to get the nav system for your Hummers...

[Ernie Italy]

I have talk with a friend on GM Hummer. Only kenwood...but forget the rear radio control.. This is what they install in Italy

[Sportsdude]

I tried the 05 Corvette C6 DVD Europe map on my 05 H2 navigation and it didn't work.

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sportsdude:
I tried the 05 Corvette C6 DVD Europe map on my 05 H2 navigation and it didn't work. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I ment to the whole corvette receiver unit transfer, not just disc.

[Sportsdude]

Sorry W1N, I didn't see your other post. I was just stating that I had tried the DVD map from the C6. The dealer I went to, sells Hummers and C6 Z06 among others exotic vehicles. They were pretty nice to let me try the C6 DVD map in my H2 to see if it will work.

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sportsdude:
Sorry W1N, I didn't see your other post. I was just stating that I had tried the DVD map from the C6. The dealer I went to, sells Hummers and C6 Z06 among others exotic vehicles. They were pretty nice to let me try the C6 DVD map in my H2 to see if it will work. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No probs, I have been searching this area myself. And the only solution I came up with was the Kenwood receiver with nav unit. Grand total goes here for like $4000... what can you say http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[OrangeCrush]

You may also want to look at a Panasonic. I had a flip down screen Panasonic in my Yukon and I bought it for the navigation. Imagine my surprise after I had it installed that Panasonic only made their nav discs for Europe only and no North American continent...

Mark

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by OrangeCrush:
You may also want to look at a Panasonic. I had a flip down screen Panasonic in my Yukon and I bought it for the navigation. Imagine my surprise after I had it installed that Panasonic only made their nav discs for Europe only and no North American continent...

Mark </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think most of us are looking for a double din sized screen/receiver + nav that fits in the originals slot rathrer than a single din flip down receiver. At least I am.

[Ashley]

Hi

I would like to ask a question here, i understand it has been established that when removing the stock receiver from the H2 the rear controls will not work...

a. Which H2 has the rear radio controls?
b. How do they work? (what do they allow you to do, remote control the front OR have differing sound in the back)?
c. I saw in CA a small frequencies selector in the centre box of a H2 with the rear screens fitted, does this have anything to do with the rear radio controls or is this the rear DVD screen feature for something?

[Christian GM]

Hi guys,
nice to meet you http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I want to explain some point to all you:
1) Hummer is officially exported by GM trought IFS in many countries, such us all Europe, some countries of Asia and Africa
2) Doesn't matter for assistance people if it is official products or gray market, obviously if it is a gray market vehicle it does not have warranty coverage from GM except for Safety Campaign
3) we had try many aftermarket products, the best for design and features is the Kenwood one. We produce dash kit for H2, H3, Saab 9-7x, with also customized alluminium braket kit to fit in dash with OEM screws. Only in 2003 H2 you lost fader function, other function always work such as RAP, steering wheel control, chime.
You also loss rear audio control, but usually we add TV, i-pod interface, MP3 cd changer, rear wiev colour camera, external audio video input / output, or other monitors in the headrest, JVC high quality (better than the visuallogic)
4) Before choose an aftermarket device I try to swap DVD map from all GM European products into an H2 navigation radio, also I try to use other DVD from other manifacturer, I try to make one with PC, but it doesn't work. Even if it will work the radio can't read European frequencies, because it can not be programmed with the Tech2.
5) The standard radio can be easy programmed for European frequencies

Thanks for your attention!
Regards
Christian.

PS my job e-mail is service@hummeritaly.com

[OrangeCrush]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by W1N:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by OrangeCrush:
You may also want to look at a Panasonic. I had a flip down screen Panasonic in my Yukon and I bought it for the navigation. Imagine my surprise after I had it installed that Panasonic only made their nav discs for Europe only and no North American continent...

Mark </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think most of us are looking for a double din sized screen/receiver + nav that fits in the originals slot rathrer than a single din flip down receiver. At least I am. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree, I myself used the double din receiver. I just thought that perhaps Panasonic is still making European dics.... perhaps available as a double din.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ashley:
Hi

I would like to ask a question here, i understand it has been established that when removing the stock receiver from the H2 the rear controls will not work...

a. Which H2 has the rear radio controls?
b. How do they work? (what do they allow you to do, remote control the front OR have differing sound in the back)?
c. I saw in CA a small frequencies selector in the centre box of a H2 with the rear screens fitted, does this have anything to do with the rear radio controls or is this the rear DVD screen feature for something? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ashley,

Good point. I just had my Eclipse 2454 installed last week. Even thought I bought all the interfaces (OS, chime, steering control..jeez) I never even thought to check out the rear controls.

Doesn't really matter, the kids aren't allowed to play with the radio but still would be nice have everything functioning.

I'll have to check today.

Mark

[Ashley]

answer for b = would appear it allows HEADPHONES ONLY in the rear to have something that the radio can do like a CD playing WHILE the front still have the radio on.

The RADIO must have this as a function but I have a feeling it MIGHT need to CLASS 2 data stream as well, unsure of that part though.

Answer to c = This small unit sends the DVD rear screen sound to the radio so it can come out on the speakers (really bad way of doing this), it appears the rear DVD and screens are just an add in and no way wire anywhere else to the system (hence the frequency settings for sound so the radio can pick it up).

I'm getting there which is good...

Many Thanks
Ashley

[Darren]

Anyone figured out how to get Nav working in Europe yet???

Will the US nav head unit not tune into European FM radio signals?? I thought it would?

Thanks!

[Sportsdude]

Anyone figured out how to get Nav working in Europe yet???

Will the US nav head unit not tune into European FM radio signals?? I thought it would?

Thanks!
Europe map is not available for H2. Radio works fine in Europe.

[Darren]

Any news on this???

[W1N]

Any news on this???

Get Kenwood DDX 6029 and the nav package. It will work fine and it is easy to install. You can even use the OnStar antenna for navigation.

I've done all that and it is awesome!