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Fistville
01-17-2004, 08:03 PM
I've seen the pictures, I intend on order an '05 but I want to sit in the new interior. When in god's name will the 2004s be delivered to dealerships. I call mine, and they give me the same BS answer of 1-6 weeks. So any info would help.

Fistville
01-17-2004, 08:03 PM
I've seen the pictures, I intend on order an '05 but I want to sit in the new interior. When in god's name will the 2004s be delivered to dealerships. I call mine, and they give me the same BS answer of 1-6 weeks. So any info would help.

Buckeye Hummer
01-17-2004, 08:16 PM
Good luck, there are only 110 '04's coming out. The largest Hummer Dealer (sales) is Sherman Oaks. I spoke to the GM (I've purchased 2 hummers from him) and he said they are only getting 2 H1's allotted to them this year!

Let us know how it goes. Prices will certainly be up.

Fistville
01-17-2004, 08:38 PM
My dealership has 3 on order supposidly, http://www.weilhummer.com/en_US/ but then again they are a car dealership which means they are full of ****.

Buckeye Hummer
01-17-2004, 08:43 PM
Try www.lynchhummer.com (http://www.lynchhummer.com) I believe they are the largest h1 dealer in the country.

HMMWV
01-18-2004, 03:10 AM
AMG is making 235 04s. Actually Lynch is the biggest in the world, not just the country.

MAC
01-18-2004, 04:37 AM
Well, in this case, biggest in the country should be good enough, to say it is biggest in the world discredit the honor and make it a joke, since everyone knows Hummer is basically sold in the US, everywhere else is simply irrelevant. Much like the World Series, we all know what part of the world it covers, true there are Cubans and Canadians, but.. well, you know what I mean, I have no problem calling it World Series.

Now we get back to the BIGGEST Hummer dealer, I heard that about several dealerships and I've seen ad text claiming such, as people in the car business are the type of people who need to brag for a living, I can't blame them.

I was at my local dealer last week. I knew they were selling 100+ a month before. I asked the manager how's the Hummer business, he naturally said the Hummer sales is great, they cannot get enough of them, people wait in line. Sure, of course, like I cannot see the lines of new Hummers in the back lot.

235 is correct. Hummer manager told me Hummer intentionally make less H1s to make it more rare and exclusive. I was speechless. It is his job to lie, but do I really look that stupid?

Joe
01-18-2004, 11:42 AM
The other "rumor" I've seen for the low production numbers of 04's is that the military is taking up a huge chunk of AMG's production. New armored trucks.

Tend to believe this more than it's intentional to raise value.

2001 H1 Opentop

Former 03 H2 Adventure Series

http://homepage.mac.com/babiak1/

Joe
01-18-2004, 11:44 AM
I do not think lynch has ever claimed to be the biggest hummer dealer, but I do believe they claim to be the biggest new and used reseller of H1's.

2001 H1 Opentop

Former 03 H2 Adventure Series

http://homepage.mac.com/babiak1/

MAC
01-18-2004, 06:01 PM
If there are buyers, I am sure they will make as many as they can. I personally am not too convinced about the military production. Wonder why 235, not 245 or 225. Most potential H1 buyers went to buy H2s. But H1 is very important to maintain the image to sell H2.

It is extremely expensive to run small production. Imagine if the H1 brochure (which I have) costs $50,000 to print, that is $212 per brochure, not the cost to make each brochure, but average cost for each of the 235 H1s to be sold. Likewise with everything exclusively or new made for 04 H1s.

When we make a new product, we spread out the development cost evenly among the projected quantity, add to the actual production cost to arrive at the cost for each unit. If the initial development cost is $10,000, we only sell 1,000 pcs, the cost to add is $10 each unit, vs. 1 cents if we plan to sell 1 million units. This simple calculation killed 99% of the new products we designed before they leave the design department.

There are products by itself we know in advance we will not sell enough to make money, but it helps or is critical to the sales of another product, then we do it and count it as part of the cost of the main seller, in this case, the H2.

ckhagman
01-21-2004, 03:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Buckeye Hummer:
Good luck, there are only 110 '04's coming out. The largest Hummer Dealer (sales) is Sherman Oaks. I spoke to the GM (I've purchased 2 hummers from him) and he said they are only getting 2 H1's allotted to them this year!

Let us know how it goes. Prices will certainly be up.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My dealer is getting 2 and they are located between 2 of the orginal dealers in the country. Getting 2 is probably not a big deal. Lynch is getting 4 from what I can remember.

ckhagman
01-21-2004, 03:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MAC:
Well, in this case, biggest in the country should be good enough, to say it is biggest in the world discredit the honor and make it a joke, since everyone knows Hummer is basically sold in the US, everywhere else is simply irrelevant. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I will give you that but I have a friend that joined the Japan Hummer Owners group for a day when he was in Japan for business and he said that a lot of them buy their parts from Lynch. When talking about Hummer dealers you have to include parts also. And there are more than a few H1 dealers around the world and they continue evern after GM took the naming rights for North America.

Black H1
01-22-2004, 01:52 AM
I would look into the '05 as well, I want the Duramax diesel as mine did not feel like starting last weekend in -16 degree temperatures. Hummer of Sioux Falls is getting a red '04 and they have only sold one H1 (mine) since there inception as a HUMMER dealer. They look to Lynch for guidance in most of their HUMMER matters.

MAC
01-22-2004, 05:42 AM
Here is the website for Hummer Club Japan. http://www.hummer.co.jp/

MAC
01-22-2004, 05:44 AM
That is a clean shop.

Joe
01-22-2004, 11:16 AM
How much is 11,000,000 yen? Sounds like a lot and that's what they want for the 2000 Wagon.

2001 H1 Opentop

Former 03 H2 Adventure Series

http://homepage.mac.com/babiak1/

frank6150
01-22-2004, 01:32 PM
Like $103,400 something and I would assume that includes at least one hooker.

S&B Member since '03

DRTYFN
01-22-2004, 02:28 PM
They're not hookers, they're geishas. And they've got special handling packages.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S&B Member since '03

Buckeye Hummer
01-22-2004, 02:31 PM
Why does the service rep at the desk look like Austin Powers Baby?

MAC
01-22-2004, 04:22 PM
Basically take off 2 zeros for fast calculation. Everything is expensive in Japan, or another way to look at it is the exchange rate, if the Yen is cheaper in relation to US$, at certain exchange rate, everything can be about same prices, coffee is no longer $8 a cup, no refill.

One major problem would be driving the wide H1 on Japanese streets, 2nd would be driving on the left side. It take extra passion and love to own American automobiles in Japan, there is always a hot market for American cars in Japan, certainly status symbols. I remembered years ago there was great deal of anger toward Janpan for not buying American cars, what most people did not know is:
1/ American car makers did not make any right hand drive cars, zero. Now there are very very few.
2/ Japan drives on the left side of the road. You would think everyone knows that, but many people do not know that.

You really have to love America to own an American car in Japan.

HMMWV
01-22-2004, 06:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>they have only sold one H1 (mine) since there inception as a HUMMER dealer. They <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Then what happened to their 02 wagon?

Black H1
01-22-2004, 07:03 PM
Ahh I forgot about that one since the individual brought it back and it was sent to Lynch to be sold. It is not around, out of sight, out of mind. My apologies for this oversight.

Texas Red
01-22-2004, 10:56 PM
Lynch Hummer in O'Fallon MO may move a lot of Hummers but they are not much of a dealership. I was there on a Saturday and there was one salesman and the service department was closed. In fact the service department is only open from 8:30 tp 4:30 five days a week. They also have to refer you somewhere else 30 miles back in St. Louis for body work.

He admitted that only about 20% of their sales are local. So apparently you may be able to get a good price. But take your Hummer and go home where you can find a decent Dealer that can provide service.

HMMWV
01-31-2004, 02:58 AM
You know why he took the wagon back?

Lynch has special hours because he is so successful, he doesn't need to open on the weekend. Before he added the second location his sales was only open on the weekdays. Lynch is very respected in the Hummer world.

Black H1
01-31-2004, 03:03 AM
Not really certain, I do know that he got an H2 instead. He is a nice guy and maybe an H1 was not what he was looking for.

Fistville
01-31-2004, 04:58 PM
I emailed lynch. He said that all his '04s are wayy overdue. He's recieve no word as to when he will recieve them. I also asked him about the '05 possibility of a duramax, and he said it would me a tremendous price increase, but it is still not confirmed. Thats it.