YEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAWWWWWWWW!!!!!!

[Mike97ZJ]

http://www.motortrend.com/multimedia/wallpaper/hummer_wall10_800x600.jpg

[Mike97ZJ]

http://www.motortrend.com/multimedia/wallpaper/hummer_wall10_800x600.jpg

[H2 Cowboy]

this is got to be one of the most insane pics i have ever seen!!

YYYEEEEEHHHHAAAAA!!!! is right!

[Mike97ZJ]

Looks like fun, don't it?

Hey, who wants to loan me thier Hummer so I can go recreate that pic?? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Dan]

Here is a snip from the Motortrend article that narrates the photo:

"We stepped out onto the dunes with the goal of testing the H2s sand-clawing prowess and to snap a few quick pictures of the Hummer having fun. However, the wind was blowing strong and a good sandblasting was the last thing any of us wanted, so we moved with speed. After some hill-climb testing, Steve Daxer was asked to perform a mild jump off one of the dunes for photo purposes -- a challenge he quickly accepted. As the nearly 6700-pound H2 approached the lip of a sizable dune, I knew something memorable was about to happen. Somehow my "not too much speed" request was overlooked, and consequently, the copper H2 sailed off the dune with unbelievable height. We all waited to see exactly how many pieces would explode off the H2 upon landing, but amazingly, the big rig sucked up the crash-down with amazing ability. Steve asked if he should do another jump (for photo purposes, of course) but I figured it was best that we leave while everything remained attached and still functioning."

- Dan

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[The Hummer H2 Man]

Thats fake pic i can tell its fake

[Mike97ZJ]

Why do you think it's fake?

Just because it's a cool pic doesn't automaticly mean it's been Photochopped.

Looks real enough to me. If you look close, you can even see the tire tracks in the sand at the crest of the hill.

[H2Jim]

My first thought was it must be Photoshop, but I opened the file and zoomed WAY in and it looks pretty good. Even the windows in the wheels agree with the background. The suspension is certainly unloaded. The only thought I had was that dark, straight object in the back glass reflection. It looks like they might have built a ramp. It looks real to me - great pic.

[Big Z]

The forward motion of the dust convinced me.

[The Hummer H2 Man]

I think its fake because look at the tires the tread looks like it is computerized looks like it was on the ground and the computerized the tread because there was weight on it so it would have made it look flatthats why

[Mike97ZJ]

What?? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[The Hummer H2 Man]

ya its fake

[HummerTeam]

It's real, so there...

http://www.HummerTeam.com
Travis - North Texas

[HummerTeam]

Check out the wheel travel on the jumping hummer...Easily twice that of the Hummer just setting there. Jumping Hummers tires are spinning, and not flat whatsoever...

I am a publisher by profesion, and have used Photoshop on a daily basis since version 1.0 (Feb 1990) I've also edited, enhanced and touched up thousands of photos, and this one has no telling signs of tampering. How long have you been a Photo enhancement expert?

http://www.hummerteam.com/images/suspension.jpg

http://www.HummerTeam.com
Travis - North Texas

[MAC]

There is no sand in the air except tiny bits at take off point. some sand or lots of sand should be flying near the tires and the Hummer.
There is no deep impression in the sand at the take off point. 3 tons on sand goes down deep.
The tire treads look a little like it is spinning, but that is not in consistence with the wheels.
The Hummer looks too clean, by the time it gets airborn, it would have been running in the sand for quite some time, the tires are clean all over. The wheel wells, the underbody, the bars, the suspension are all clean. Especially the under side of the rear bumper, you know what I mean if you look at your rear bumper.
Where is the driver? a tiny dude with tiny head?

Nice picture nevertheless.

[This message was edited by MAC on February 06, 2003 at 12:41 AM.]

[This message was edited by MAC on February 06, 2003 at 12:41 AM.]

[HummerTeam]

Yeah, either it was faked by a very talented individual, or piloted by a very crazy one... Either way, it's a great photo...

http://www.HummerTeam.com
Travis - North Texas

[The Hummer H2 Man]

It's fake

[Dan]

Its not

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[MAC]

Prove it, please. Why is everything so clean?

[The Hummer H2 Man]

Ya prove it, its fake http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

[HummerTeam]

This is funny! What else do you guys want? I posted the reply from the senior photo editor at MotorTrend that took the photo...? All you guys can say against it is the truck is not dirty enough? C'mon... And just in case you think the e-mail is fake, I'll be glad to pass his e-mail address on to you off list if you would like to ask him personally...

Trav

http://www.HummerTeam.com
Travis - North Texas

[The Hummer H2 Man]

The tread of the tiers are computerized look at the tread. They coputerized the tread so that it wont look like it has weight on the tiers because it was on the ground when they took the pic thats proof.

[HummerTeam]

You are right, they must have coputerized the tiers. My mistake. How can you argue with proof like that?

http://www.HummerTeam.com
Travis - North Texas

[MAC]

If you show a picture of Osama on the moon, millions of people will believe it, even more think Saddam is a nice guy and a victim of USA. But we are trained to use logic to make judgement. As far as I am concerned, how is it possible that you can ignore the fact that Hummer is so clean, not to mentioned other points I mentioned before.
Trav, don't take it personally. what we are doing is what friends do when they hang out and talk about something totally irrelevant, which this qualifies.

I don't agree with Hummer H2 Man on the tire. They could simply raise the H2 in the shop. I think of course H2 can make the jump, but maybe a ramp is needed. Why don't some of you try it, I'm serious, I would like to know and see your pic. With all the Offroad PhD level talks around here, I would think to make a jump like this should be no big deal, didn't CO H2 do that? he said it is in his video. COH2, can you get a photo from your video to post here.

I read the posts in the general section too. How can it be no lots of sand kick up in the air? totally against the law physics. That little bits near the ground doesn't count, too little. The spinning tires should be spinning the sand too. Some sand don't stick? some sand moves fast, tire doesn't spin sand, etc... you go off-road, I don't think you believe that yourself for a second. Wash the Hummer before the shot? that means they need a water tanker next to the starting point, or else how did the H2 get to this point? flatbed? why? I've seen offroad photos, why in the world would they wash an offroad vehicle before the shot? the mud and dirt is a part of the whole picture.

Now, if you show the video or few photos of before and after the jump, that would settle the issue for good. What MT guy said doesn't answer the questions above. Surly MT has the other photos, they picked 1 out of 100s.

[HMSH2]

With lots of experience riding quads in the dunes as well as numerous vehicle excursions, I can tell you sand does not cause anything to get "dirty." Sand is actually very clean and driving around in the dunes will not produce a soiled vehicle. The pic looks legit to me.

Hood Motorsports

- 1967 427 L71 Corvette (99%+ Bloomington Gold Certified, restored to original)
- 1998 Lingenfelter 383 C5 (over 500hp and 11's in the 1/4 mile)
- 2001 GMC Yukon Denali (22" wheels and tires, extensive multimedia system, and performance mods)
- 2002 Cadillac Escalade (Wife's/Mom's ride)
- 2003 H2 (waiting to mod)

[98 SNAKE EATER]

I say it's real http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



Now, anyone wanna guess if this Hummer is real http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif



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[Big Z]

How bout this!--rear window reflection, check out the back ground in the wheel spokes. Shadow, I would guess is the reason for the clean wheel well look. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[HMSH2]

Great point Big Z. The rear window reflection does show what appears to be the base and face of a dune.

Hood Motorsports

- 1967 427 L71 Corvette (99%+ Bloomington Gold Certified, restored to original)
- 1998 Lingenfelter 383 C5 (over 500hp and 11's in the 1/4 mile)
- 2001 GMC Yukon Denali (22" wheels and tires, extensive multimedia system, and performance mods)
- 2002 Cadillac Escalade (Wife's/Mom's ride)
- 2003 H2 (waiting to mod)

My problem with the picture is shading. It seems that the sun is shining overhead and to the passenger side of the H2 based on the light reflection near the back of the hummer and the shadow underneath. Living in New Jersey I'm not used to seeing mountains like in the picture. It seems to me that the shading of the top of the mountains would suggest sun light behind the mountains or at least not consistent with light overhead and coming from the passenger side.

[MAC]

I have discovered a major conspiracy. The driver is not human at all, it is an alien. Take a look at the shadow of the Hummer, that looks like an UFO to me. This is a picture of an alien going home in a Hummer. The Hummer just lifted up, that explained everything, tiny driver with tiny head, no sand in the air or near the tire, in the blinding bright desert sand the wheel well is so dark and everything else. Everything makes sense to me now. I see 4 other tiny aliens in the Hummer. Yes, it is a real photo!

[DennisAJC]

Driving in sand does not make it that dirty.
Try throwing some sand in your face and tell us if it sticks.

It`s a real photo. Why is it so hard to believe? Any off-roader or any car for that matter, can make a jump similar to that.

[Dr. B]

Achum's Razor states that all things being equal, the simplest answer is probably the correct one.

1. Was Motor Trend in possession of an H2? Yes.

2. Is an H2 capable of this stunt? Probably.

3. Were they near he desert? Yes.

4. Were they in possesion of photographic equipment? Yes.

5. Did they take the time and energy to secure (what appears to be) a computer graphics professional to modify a picture to excruciating detail for the sole pupose of slightly exaggerating the H2's performance? NO.

Get over yourselves people, and YES we actually DID land on the moon.

[NSXTC]

I brighten up the pics. You can clearly see the suspension unloaded and the driver. If you look at the original pic, there is sand stuck up on the rear bumper.

Looks like there's a rear passenger. Ask the Motor Trend dude if there was anyone in the back.

[NSXTC]

Here's a closeup of the rear window. There are mountains in the background.

As far as that black line? Not sure. Crane? 8) Not that they will drive a crane all the way to the desert.

[Mike97ZJ]

All right, I'm going to settle this once for all.

If one of you CA guys will be so kind as to loan me your Hummer, I'll come out there and we can replicate the shot. Sound like a plan?

I think the picture is real. I've been wheeling in sand and not gotten dirty. I've seen pics in other mags of truck tearing it up in the dunes, and they weren't dirty either. And you're not going to tell me that Four Wheeler magazine is going to take the time to photochop a pic of a 78 Ford in the dunes, are you?

Those who think it's fake, why do you think they would fake it? Do you not think the H2 would stand up to it?

If anyone was to fake a pic like that, I'd say it would be AM General or GM.

Motor Trend has nothing to gain from faking that pic.

If I'm testing a vehicle and someone tells me to "get a little air", damn straight I'm going to put the hammer down and try to launch that sucker into orbit. What do I care if it breaks? It's not mine.

[HummerTeam]

I have also determined that this photo is real and unaltered. Just to verify, I checked with the Motor Trend guy.

http://www.gordonkeith.com/fpimg/OSWALDweb.jpg

Trav

http://www.HummerTeam.com
Travis - North Texas

[rpv]

To everybody who cares,

I personally feel that this is a true picture.

Does it matter, I don't think so...

I look at it and I feel proud to be an owner of such a vehicle that has impressed such a well renowned auto magazine and their experts.

Why bash the photo???...For those who thimk it is fake, too bad...you'll never be convinced it is real no matter what is done to prove it...for those who think it is real...we say good things about it and feel good and if it is fake, I'll still love my truck anyway...

food for thought...

...looking at it makes me think that superman now has an appropriate vehicle for dates...heheheheehaw!!!

RPV

[bklynh2srock]

Do I care if it's real? Nah. why? because it's a fun pic regardless!

[Dr. B]

I think the pictures in the following thread settle it

http://www.elcova.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=2826088551&f=5106011751&m=8916075132