Is it really the H3 world that you want?

[Huck BB62]

I consider this a very informative site. I learn a lot that dealers, and even other owners don't know. There's a disturbing aspect to this site though, and that's the complete lack of civility. No one minds a little ribbing, nudging, chain yanking. That kind of adds the spice of life. What disturbs me, and is running people off that would be a huge asset to this forum is the juvenile attacks and name calling. The big picture of this forum is beginning to take on the appearance of a bunch thirteen year olds yelling at each other at a skate park.

Is this the world you want to live in? Is this how you want people to view you? Not everyone here is that way, so if you're not, there's no reason to get ruffled. If you DO take offense to this, well, it's your forum too, just figure that you get what you put into it.

I seriously doubt that the potty mouth kiddies around here are that way in real life, they couldn't afford the dental bills or loneliness that would ensue.

I quit reading and posting on the MiniUSA forums because it was clearly populated, for the most part, radical left winged nut jobs that were very pious about driving a small car and how messed up SUV owners were. The barrage was constant. The sexual content was constant too. It was evident to me that there were too many young'uns that hadn't seen a boob, or were such social outcast that they were never really likely to either because that's all they ever talked about. Their vocabulary was stunted also because they wrote like sixth graders f that and the like. Yawn.... Towering intellects they were not.

So, wanna attack, be a cyber snot, be a name calling twit, go ahead. You'll certainly be in the company of like kind.

Yup, I can leave. If the kids don't calm down, it's likely. I'm not the only one I bet.

[NewHummerGuy]

Huck........these types of "mission statements" generally go over like a turd in a punchbowl. A lot of the folks that get railed out of the forum are troll like in both information and stature. they deserve it.

just from my observations.

[KenP]

EVERY single person that gets ribbed and takes it in the context it was meant gets along fine with everyone here. The people with no back bones are the one's that run off.

Which are you?

Here's a link to my favorite example, H2Finally, a very well respected member of this forum took it on the chin when he came here because of this thread:
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5106011751/m/7...636075755#7636075755 (http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5106011751/m/7636075755/r/7636075755#7636075755)

Again, he's one of the most respected members on this forum, but he waded through 6 pages of razzing to get there.

[KenP]

Originally posted by Huck BB62:
I consider this a very informative site. I learn a lot that dealers, and even other owners don't know. There's a disturbing aspect to this site though, and that's the complete lack of civility. No one minds a little ribbing, nudging, chain yanking. That kind of adds the spice of life. What disturbs me, and is running people off that would be a huge asset to this forum is the juvenile attacks and name calling. The big picture of this forum is beginning to take on the appearance of a bunch thirteen year olds yelling at each other at a skate park.

Is this the world you want to live in? Is this how you want people to view you? Not everyone here is that way, so if you're not, there's no reason to get ruffled. If you DO take offense to this, well, it's your forum too, just figure that you get what you put into it.

I seriously doubt that the potty mouth kiddies around here are that way in real life, they couldn't afford the dental bills or loneliness that would ensue.

I quit reading and posting on the MiniUSA forums because it was clearly populated, for the most part, radical left winged nut jobs that were very pious about driving a small car and how messed up SUV owners were. The barrage was constant. The sexual content was constant too. It was evident to me that there were too many young'uns that hadn't seen a boob, or were such social outcast that they were never really likely to either because that's all they ever talked about. Their vocabulary was stunted also because they wrote like sixth graders f that and the like. Yawn.... Towering intellects they were not.

So, wanna attack, be a cyber snot, be a name calling twit, go ahead. You'll certainly be in the company of like kind.

Yup, I can leave. If the kids don't calm down, it's likely. I'm not the only one I bet. Originally posted by NewHummerGuy:
Huck........these types of "mission statements" generally go over like a turd in a punchbowl. A lot of the folks that get railed out of the forum are troll like in both information and stature. they deserve it.

just from my observations. True. Those kinds of statements show weakness.

[ZigsRig]

After pontificating your intelectual findings about our Hummer enclave, I would like to be the first to say GFY!

http://www.professionaltreecare.com/Images/TreeHugger.gif

Not all grown men like to squeez wood... And even a sixth grader knows how to use a thesaurus!

[Dan]

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[Sewie]

Originally posted by Huck BB62:
Yup, I can leave. If the kids don't calm down, it's likely. I'm not the only one I bet.

I'm sure you'll be missed. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Honestly, this site was around for years before you (or I, for that matter) joined. WTF gives you the right to try to mandate what goes on here.

If you can't take it, then maybe it would be best if you left. Personally, my advice would be to sack up and quit your whining.

[ETD]

It's ok. That's why it's called an internet "community". There are all types of personalities. Like any community, though, people can come and go as they like.

[PARAGON]

Give me a ****ing break! Take the stick out of your ass and have a little fun.

Don't you think it's ironic that you bash the people on your other stupid forum for not acting the way you like and now want to bash others on THIS forum for acting a different way?

By the way, I don't act the same way in a business meeting as I do when playing with my 4 year old. So why is it something that people "act" differently here. If you don't like the venue, change the channel.

[DWPC]

There are a number of posters who suffer from arrested emotional development. They can be hilarious...if you're 12. Especially those who feel compelled to use increasingly crude and coarse sig pics.

[PARAGON]

There are a number of posers who suffer from petulance. They can be a bore.... no matter what age. Especially when trying to condescend.

[1COOLH3]

WOW- what a bunch of asses on this site!

Huck has every right to his opinion and should feel free to post without being verbally assaulted (just the thing he was talking about)

For the most part what he says is true- this site should be about HUMMERS- not personal attacks, porn or idiotic ramblings. There are plenty of other sites that for that ****.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by 1COOLH3:
WOW- what a bunch of asses on this site!

Huck has every right to his opinion and should feel free to post without being verbally assaulted (just the thing he was talking about)

For the most part what he says is true- this site should be about HUMMERS- not personal attacks, porn or idiotic ramblings. There are plenty of other sites that for that ****. HE HAS A RIGHT, but no one else does?

Idiot. It's like saying he has a right to walk down the street without protesters protesting with signs telling him he's stupid.

[1COOLH3]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 1COOLH3:
WOW- what a bunch of asses on this site!

Huck has every right to his opinion and should feel free to post without being verbally assaulted (just the thing he was talking about)

For the most part what he says is true- this site should be about HUMMERS- not personal attacks, porn or idiotic ramblings. There are plenty of other sites that for that ****. HE HAS A RIGHT, but no one else does?

Idiot. It's like saying he has a right to walk down the street without protesters protesting with signs telling him he's stupid. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by 1COOLH3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 1COOLH3:
WOW- what a bunch of asses on this site!

Huck has every right to his opinion and should feel free to post without being verbally assaulted (just the thing he was talking about)

For the most part what he says is true- this site should be about HUMMERS- not personal attacks, porn or idiotic ramblings. There are plenty of other sites that for that ****. HE HAS A RIGHT, but no one else does?

Idiot. It's like saying he has a right to walk down the street without protesters protesting with signs telling him he's stupid. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[NewHummerGuy]

Here we go again.............

my 2 cents (well actually .01),,,,,

i remember reading a post "ryans story" or something which talked about how a guys son loved the hummers so much and when he finally bought one his son went nuts. my son, he is 4. he also loves the hummer i bought. heres where i am trying to go....i look at it this way, the hummer to me is a way of in some sorts being different. not conforming to what others may think is correct. its kind of like a way for me to not really "grow up". when driving it i feel like a kid again. it feels good.


same way i feel when on this site. its fun. yes, i do and have learned a lot but it is also fun. a way to unwind with others who maybe dont want to grow up. all day long i have to conform in the office. but when the days done, i get in my hummer and forget about "conforming" and can be a "kid". this site has been a blast for me. hell, my son loves it as well. just take it for what it is. if you dont like it, go to another site. but PLEASE, do not try and make members who wish to be here and who like the status quo to conform to what you think this site SHOULD be.....

just my 1.5 cents worth...please be gentle drty http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[NEOCON1]

i like gettin messed with http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif its part of the HUMMER experience http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif now get over it and post some meaningless BS http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[HummerNewbie]

I think it has all been said before and I have to agree, I come here for the fun at least as much for the info. Hell, like someone pointed out, I had Guru status before I even owned a Hummer http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Lighten up and you can have fun. If you want a site that is STRICTLY Hummer information go to hummer.com and you are set.

[KenP]

Originally posted by HummerNewbie:
I think it has all been said before and I have to agree, I come here for the fun at least as much for the info. Hell, like someone pointed out, I had Guru status before I even owned a Hummer http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Lighten up and you can have fun. If you want a site that is STRICTLY Hummer information go to hummer.com and you are set. That site's boring you Guru poser. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[profish00]

Lets see hummer owners are well lets say A Different Breed. So with that said what would you expect? me ? THIS http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

So bash me please I can take it and kick your ass

[HummerNewbie]

Originally posted by KenP:
That site's boring you Guru poser. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

LMAO http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[CO Hummer]

Originally posted by Huck BB62:

I quit reading and posting on the MiniUSA forums because it was clearly populated, for the most part, radical left winged nut jobs that were very pious about driving a small car and how messed up SUV owners were. The barrage was constant. The sexual content was constant too.

SWEEEET! Can you provide a link?

LMAO. He'll spend about two days looking at this thread, waiting for that "he's right, we need him back" theme to emerge. Sorry bud. Not gonna happen.

But before you leave, I have some tube steps for sale if you're interested:
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/4616043161/m/1...181002951#6181002951 (http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/4616043161/m/1811023941/r/6181002951#6181002951)

[DarthKarl]

Originally posted by Huck BB62:
If you DO take offense to this, well, it's your forum too, just figure that you get what you put into it.

It looks like yet another Thought-Nazi has surfaced. There’s always someone who (after they are offended by something they see, hear or read) feels the compulsion to curtail whatever has insulted them. It never fails that this is inevitably done in the name of the greater good of the majority.

Originally posted by Huck BB62:
Yup, I can leave. If the kids don't calm down, it's likely. I'm not the only one I bet.

That's a stellar idea Huck. If you don’t like what you read, then don’t read it.

[MarineHawk]

You guys are Brutes! Brutes, I tell you! I'm running away!!!!!!! Now!!!! I'm going to start my own Hummer forum, and it's all going to be nicey-nicey and flowery. You can find it at delicate.flower.hummer.com. People will use more smiley faces and frowny faces will be strictly prohibited. New members will be required to go through an extensive, yet caring, regimen of sensitivity training. Flowers, love, and Hummers will be the themes.

[NewHummerGuy]

with a name like marinehawk....i would never have taken you as a pillow biter http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifOriginally posted by MarineHawk:
You guys are Brutes! Brutes, I tell you! I'm running away!!!!!!! Now!!!! I'm going to start my own Hummer forum, and it's all going to be nicey-nicey and flowery. You can find it at delicate.flower.hummer.com. People will use more smiley faces and frowny faces will be strictly prohibited. New members will be required to go through an extensive, yet caring, regimen of sensitivity training. Flowers, love, and Hummers will be the themes.

[ShaggyX]

Originally posted by KenP:
EVERY single person that gets ribbed and takes it in the context it was meant gets along fine with everyone here. The people with no back bones are the one's that run off.

Which are you?

Here's a link to my favorite example, H2Finally, a very well respected member of this forum took it on the chin when he came here because of this thread:
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5106011751/m/7...636075755#7636075755 (http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5106011751/m/7636075755/r/7636075755#7636075755)

Again, he's one of the most respected members on this forum, but he waded through 6 pages of razzing to get there. What about my 3 years of hazing? Not necessarily a "respected member"...but I am still here none the less.

It has been this way since day 1. If you dont like it the get the fu%& out of here.

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by NewHummerGuy:
with a name like marinehawk....i would never have taken you as a pillow biter http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MarineHawk:
You guys are Brutes! Brutes, I tell you! I'm running away!!!!!!! Now!!!! I'm going to start my own Hummer forum, and it's all going to be nicey-nicey and flowery. You can find it at delicate.flower.hummer.com. People will use more smiley faces and frowny faces will be strictly prohibited. New members will be required to go through an extensive, yet caring, regimen of sensitivity training. Flowers, love, and Hummers will be the themes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I used to be resilient until recently. But all of this merciless, inhuman verbal violence has broken me down and turned me into a sulking, vulnerable child. I tell you, I just can't take all this abuse! Run away!!!

[Mr. I - Man]

The H3 is definately brings out the softer side of Hummer and their owners http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Sewie]

Originally posted by Mr. I - Man:
The H3 is definately brings out the softer side of Hummer and their owners http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Sounds like you need a good swift kick to your soft side. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[HummerJim]

I've learned more things about my H3 on this site than in the owners manual. Without Fstop's technical knowledge I would have **&$%&^ed at the door panels taking them off to Dynamat, because of the hidden screw by the door lever. The Hummer evokes strong responses from people, the H2 owners I'm sure take a lot more than we do because they are larger and more in your face styling wise than the H3. What gets me is a lot of tree huggers drive machines made overseas and say very little about taking jobs away from Americans. I think everyone on this board has been insulted in some way once or twice - take the source into consideration, remember Dan Rather & Peter Jennings, probably 14 years old, and some people are just frustrated Hummer Wannabes.
Hummer drivers like going offroad in much higher percentage than any other SUVs - that's the way we are.

[NewHummerGuy]

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Originally posted by MarineHawk:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NewHummerGuy:
with a name like marinehawk....i would never have taken you as a pillow biter http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MarineHawk:
You guys are Brutes! Brutes, I tell you! I'm running away!!!!!!! Now!!!! I'm going to start my own Hummer forum, and it's all going to be nicey-nicey and flowery. You can find it at delicate.flower.hummer.com. People will use more smiley faces and frowny faces will be strictly prohibited. New members will be required to go through an extensive, yet caring, regimen of sensitivity training. Flowers, love, and Hummers will be the themes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I used to be resilient until recently. But all of this merciless, inhuman verbal violence has broken me down and turned me into a sulking, vulnerable child. I tell you, I just can't take all this abuse! Run away!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[shhrtbs]

Originally posted by NEOCON1:
i like gettin messed with http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif its part of the HUMMER experience http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif now get over it and post some meaningless BS http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

yer already fu@#ed, you live in a blue state . . . now go back to playing in the mud and shut yer piehole.
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
(how was that?)

[Mike E]

These posts always crack me up. If you can't roll with the punches then you better not come here. It is, without a doubt, the most informative Hummer forum I know. Plus, it has some very fun people to boot. There's always some little bit of bad that comes with all the good.

[H3HUMVEE]

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[HUMRCHIC]

Yeah I'm new..But it sounds like to me that some of you guys need a "<span class="ev_code_RED">hummer</span>", and I don't mean the one with 4 wheels... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[fourfourto]

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[NewHummerGuy]

... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif...wellllllllllll

if ur offering http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

GOOD GIRLOriginally posted by HUMRCHIC:
Yeah I'm new..But it sounds like to me that some of you guys need a "<span class="ev_code_RED">hummer</span>", and I don't mean the one with 4 wheels... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[HUMRCHIC]

Hey, South Riding Va....I work in Ashburn for Pulte Homes....What a co-inky-dink...LOL

[Grandman]

There is another point here . You complain about how Hummer is viewed by public such as in the Canada thread .

You dont think your own actions on a Hummer board helps set the tone ?

I make use of several boards , iv found he who knows the least runs there mouth the most .

I notice f5 is no smart allick on the baord yet has the most knowledge that i have seen . Get the point !

Iv also noticed if you dont agree with every thing then your punced on with names and acusations that are unfounded . Great sign of intelect

[westhillsat]

Originally posted by MarineHawk:
You guys are Brutes! Brutes, I tell you! I'm running away!!!!!!! Now!!!! I'm going to start my own Hummer forum, and it's all going to be nicey-nicey and flowery. You can find it at delicate.flower.hummer.com. People will use more smiley faces and frowny faces will be strictly prohibited. New members will be required to go through an extensive, yet caring, regimen of sensitivity training. Flowers, love, and Hummers will be the themes.

Sounds like that benz forum... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Sewie]

Huck, I must apologize. In my rush to respond to your post I forgot to ask a very important question.

Can you post links to the threads you were the most offended by. I wanna make sure I don't miss any of the good stuff. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Huck BB62]

Ken P. it doesn't take a backbone to be on a forum. You write of respect as if that word can be associated with a bunch of uncivil rantings on a forum. That's pretty amusing.

Zig, you're a real wordsmith.

Dan, it ain't about the whining, it's about someone offering some friendly advice. If it takes sack to be bored to tears by endless name calling and personal attacks, I must be a gelding.

Neo, gettin' messed with isn't what I'm talking about, no one's really landed hard on me yet at all so this isn't about thin skin on my part. What I've seen people write to and about other people is a pitiful statement on who they are. You for instance come off as just as you say, having fun, and lots of it, a great read every time. The bores that just hammer the crap out of people every time they get a chance are what I'm talking about.

CO Hummer, you really don't think I crave your acceptance do you?

Darth, it's not about thought, it's about the demonstrated lack of it. Again, no one insulted me, I'm just tired of having to mow through miles of the kiddie crap to get to the useful stuff here. It's not very entertaining after the billionth dork post.

MarineHawk, you're actually funny, sarcasm's a useful tool.

HummerJim, that's some good advice. I don't understand how the offroad thing correlates into liking what's going on here, but I get your drift.

Humrchic, you get it completely! Maybe Clinton's surgeon general had it right about some people needing to learn how to masturbate eh?

Grandman, I really hope you don't go. it'd be a bad day for the H3 forum if you did.

Sewie, you don't need to look far if that stuff entertains you. It's pretty rampant. If you really want to be entertained, check out the H3 chatroom. You wanna talk about offroading, forgeddaboudit. You wanna talk about H3s, forgeddaboudit. The definitely misnamed that chat room when they called it the H3 chatroom.

Anyhow, I'll really feel super bad if you guys don't like me, and my feelings will be hurt so bad, I'll be so lost without your acceptance.... WHOOYA!

Who's got the thin skin anyway?

[Sewie]

Dood, you wasted at least a dozen good pad posts with that verbal diarrhea. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[DRTYFN]

Originally posted by Huck BB62:
I consider this a very informative site. I learn a lot that dealers, and even other owners don't know. There's a disturbing aspect to this site though, and that's the complete lack of civility. No one minds a little ribbing, nudging, chain yanking. That kind of adds the spice of life. What disturbs me, and is running people off that would be a huge asset to this forum is the juvenile attacks and name calling. The big picture of this forum is beginning to take on the appearance of a bunch thirteen year olds yelling at each other at a skate park.

Is this the world you want to live in? Is this how you want people to view you? Not everyone here is that way, so if you're not, there's no reason to get ruffled. If you DO take offense to this, well, it's your forum too, just figure that you get what you put into it.

I seriously doubt that the potty mouth kiddies around here are that way in real life, they couldn't afford the dental bills or loneliness that would ensue.

I quit reading and posting on the MiniUSA forums because it was clearly populated, for the most part, radical left winged nut jobs that were very pious about driving a small car and how messed up SUV owners were. The barrage was constant. The sexual content was constant too. It was evident to me that there were too many young'uns that hadn't seen a boob, or were such social outcast that they were never really likely to either because that's all they ever talked about. Their vocabulary was stunted also because they wrote like sixth graders f that and the like. Yawn.... Towering intellects they were not.

So, wanna attack, be a cyber snot, be a name calling twit, go ahead. You'll certainly be in the company of like kind.

Yup, I can leave. If the kids don't calm down, it's likely. I'm not the only one I bet.

Whining bitch.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[DRTYFN]

Originally posted by Huck BB62:
Ken P. it doesn't take a backbone to be on a forum. You write of respect as if that word can be associated with a bunch of uncivil rantings on a forum. That's pretty amusing.

Zig, you're a real wordsmith.

Dan, it ain't about the whining, it's about someone offering some friendly advice. If it takes sack to be bored to tears by endless name calling and personal attacks, I must be a gelding.

Neo, gettin' messed with isn't what I'm talking about, no one's really landed hard on me yet at all so this isn't about thin skin on my part. What I've seen people write to and about other people is a pitiful statement on who they are. You for instance come off as just as you say, having fun, and lots of it, a great read every time. The bores that just hammer the crap out of people every time they get a chance are what I'm talking about.

CO Hummer, you really don't think I crave your acceptance do you?

Darth, it's not about thought, it's about the demonstrated lack of it. Again, no one insulted me, I'm just tired of having to mow through miles of the kiddie crap to get to the useful stuff here. It's not very entertaining after the billionth dork post.

MarineHawk, you're actually funny, sarcasm's a useful tool.

HummerJim, that's some good advice. I don't understand how the offroad thing correlates into liking what's going on here, but I get your drift.

Humrchic, you get it completely! Maybe Clinton's surgeon general had it right about some people needing to learn how to masturbate eh?

Grandman, I really hope you don't go. it'd be a bad day for the H3 forum if you did.

Sewie, you don't need to look far if that stuff entertains you. It's pretty rampant. If you really want to be entertained, check out the H3 chatroom. You wanna talk about offroading, forgeddaboudit. You wanna talk about H3s, forgeddaboudit. The definitely misnamed that chat room when they called it the H3 chatroom.

Anyhow, I'll really feel super bad if you guys don't like me, and my feelings will be hurt so bad, I'll be so lost without your acceptance.... WHOOYA!

Who's got the thin skin anyway? Translation: LOOK AT ME!!!!

[H2Finally]

Excellent! An intelligent troll! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (And when I said "troll" I mean it in the most positive -- as in "one who brings entertainment" way http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

And that folk, is exactly it. E N T E R T A I N M E N T http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

If you want info, facts, tips, install instructions, use the "FIND" button. I guarantee you, your question has been asked and asnwered at least a dozen times before in the past 3 years. Why? Because the H2 didn't change (materially) in 3 years. (Fact: the post Ken mentioned of my 'initiation', was the last original, previously-unasked H2 question http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

Of course the H3 is different, but that's why everyone is kow-towing to F5Stop and others, for doing a great job of providing current and accurate info.

The rest of the time, this fine forum has become a real, living, honest, and most importantly imho, THE FUNNEST Hummer community in this world! (Thanks Jason! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

The question then, is why? Why do other Hummer forums seemed so dead, sterile, and down-right boring? The answer is because here, we have the... "potty mouth kiddies" who BOTHERED enough to invest hours and hours of their time to... POST -- period!!

You're right, this is your forum too. But remember, ask not what your (forum) can give to you, but what you can give to your (forum)... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

How could anyone take your concerns seriously, if you yourself have NOT demonstrated that same generosity of your valuable time and effort, to be informative (check these "cyber snots" PAST posts if you doubt me), defensive (were you around when OTN or JU trolls were here attacking Hummers?), and most importantly (again) ENTERTAINING! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

All for no money, nor for that matter, a simple thank you! Hell, if this forum was on TV, these fine folks would be raking in millions for providing reality-TV content! (Paul Sr of Orange County Chopper, anyone?).

In summary, do remember these simple facts:

1. The forum is for ENTERTAINMENT http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
2. GIVE (noobs, substitute "use FIND" http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif) before you ASK http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
3. FREEDOM of speech is your constitutional right http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
4. If your nice allatime, you're boring & a loser and NO ONE WILL LIKE YOU http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

So in the end, I just wanna say to all the 'ol timers (and those with at least 1,000 posts http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)...
<font size=100>THANK YOU!!</font> from the bottom of my entertained heart! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[deicustoms1]

3. FREEDOM of speech is your constitutional right Mad


This is a privately owned forum, you have no rights here! :P

[Sewie]

Well said H2Finally!!!

[Huck BB62]

Originally posted by deicustoms:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">3. FREEDOM of speech is your constitutional right Mad


This is a privately owned forum, you have no rights here! :P </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's an interesting turn of the worm if I've ever seen one, I'm serious, that IS entertaining.

Attention whore, really, looking back, you guys in particular are killin' me, really, stop, it's just too much! Oh God, somebody get me a respirator, I'm gonna pass out. YOU guys calling me an attention whore?!?!? And I thought you weren't funny. Man, I've gotta start wearing depends!

Smart, er, Alec, at least the other guys came up with an attempt at funny graphics they cut and pasted from their forum arsenal, long wordy responses, put a little effort into it. You illustrate my point quite well. Wipe your chin when you're done. (see, I can be funny too!)

H2 Finally, I think I did miss the boat here. I really thought that general topic forums would be that, and the H3 forum would be something else. Perhaps, just maybe, I need to go to one of the new schools, and learn how to read so that I can just figure this all out. So even though one utilizes search, and trys to find, one STILL has to wade through volumes of inanity to get something useful.

Back to my main point, and it's pretty well confirmed, this forum's got 5% to do with Hummer H3s, and 95% to do with special education, I mean special interest people. It seems to me, that immature, juvenile rants (my two short posts are considered rants while others have THOUSANDS of posts saying NOTHING) are being considered entertainment.

Ok, I'll bite, what's entertaining about the hacking, name calling, lewdness and rudeness? For something to be entertaining to me, it has to be well thought out, informative, have some value to it, otherwise, it's about as fun, satisfying, and nutritional as tofu flavored bubblegum.

I've seen posters on here offer zero value, all they do is check in (obviously 80 times a day) to see if it's time to call someone a name, tell them to **** off, autofellate on the forum so that someone thinks they're cute, ANYTHING but talk about H3s! They say that anyone that doesn't like it has thin skin. When they read something that doesn't fit in with their party hearty, be like us or **** off attitude, piss on you view of the world, that they're thin skinned and narrow minded.

I repeat, who's thin skinned? Who doesn't want anyone else to speak? Who wants everyone else in the world to think just like they do?

I think I understand.

[KenP]

Originally posted by Huck BB62:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by deicustoms:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">3. FREEDOM of speech is your constitutional right Mad


This is a privately owned forum, you have no rights here! :P </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's an interesting turn of the worm if I've ever seen one, I'm serious, that IS entertaining.

Attention whore, really, looking back, you guys in particular are killin' me, really, stop, it's just too much! Oh God, somebody get me a respirator, I'm gonna pass out. YOU guys calling me an attention whore?!?!? And I thought you weren't funny. Man, I've gotta start wearing depends!

Smart, er, Alec, at least the other guys came up with an attempt at funny graphics they cut and pasted from their forum arsenal, long wordy responses, put a little effort into it. You illustrate my point quite well. Wipe your chin when you're done. (see, I can be funny too!)

H2 Finally, I think I did miss the boat here. I really thought that general topic forums would be that, and the H3 forum would be something else. Perhaps, just maybe, I need to go to one of the new schools, and learn how to read so that I can just figure this all out. So even though one utilizes search, and trys to find, one STILL has to wade through volumes of inanity to get something useful.

Back to my main point, and it's pretty well confirmed, this forum's got 5% to do with Hummer H3s, and 95% to do with special education, I mean special interest people. It seems to me, that immature, juvenile rants (my two short posts are considered rants while others have THOUSANDS of posts saying NOTHING) are being considered entertainment.

Ok, I'll bite, what's entertaining about the hacking, name calling, lewdness and rudeness? For something to be entertaining to me, it has to be well thought out, informative, have some value to it, otherwise, it's about as fun, satisfying, and nutritional as tofu flavored bubblegum.

I've seen posters on here offer zero value, all they do is check in (obviously 80 times a day) to see if it's time to call someone a name, tell them to **** off, autofellate on the forum so that someone thinks they're cute, ANYTHING but talk about H3s! They say that anyone that doesn't like it has thin skin. When they read something that doesn't fit in with their party hearty, be like us or **** off attitude, piss on you view of the world, that they're thin skinned and narrow minded.

I repeat, who's thin skinned? Who doesn't want anyone else to speak? Who wants everyone else in the world to think just like they do?

I think I understand. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Just leave. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[H2Finally]

Huck, if you don't see how random posts of complete strangers in an internet forum about trucks, can cause such e-enragement to normally sane & mature successful adults who can afford Hummers, as entertaining, then, clearly you don't get it http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif.

Too, rarely does the hackling started without cause (not saying never, but rare). If you care to follow it to the beginning, most are started as some idiotic comment -- answered as such, and continued in an escalating spiral of funnay. Or other times, they are often of some noobs who decided to take personal affront to the "noob-hazing", and sadly ending up crashing and burning. Then again, if YOU spent as much time here as those who call this forum home, you'd already know that http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif.

[Huck BB62]

They probably took it personally because it was meant personally.

Ok dokee H2Finally, I do take your point. I'll just read for awhile, maybe I'll understand this counter culture. It certainly is new to me, I've never witnessed people acting this way, it's all new to me.

I'm sitting here because it's my first night off the vicodin from my knee surgery just waitin' for the sun to come up. I can certainly see how people get addicted. Tomorrow's another day.

[H2Finally]

I'm sitting here because I'm in Canada (WORKING!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif) and winding down..

It's cool if you're willing to see my point. However, the objective is NOT to "just read", but jump right in and be part of the family! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. You've never witnessed (real) people acting this way, because this is NOT the real world. It's the interweb, and it's entertainment -- THAT is my point exactly! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Btw, how was it meant personally, if one never ever meet, personally, prior? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Get well soon and join us for a run sometimes!

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by Sewie:
Dood, you wasted at least a dozen good pad posts with that verbal diarrhea. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Grandman]

sane & mature successful adults who can afford Hummers,

Well if your driving an H 2 that may apply to you , this is the H3 section so affording an H3 is not really a point giving there pricing .

Mature ? some are , did you read the post on ages ?

[HummerNewbie]

Originally posted by Grandman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">sane & mature successful adults who can afford Hummers,

Well if your driving an H 2 that may apply to you , this is the H3 section so affording an H3 is not really a point giving there pricing . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The H3 is by no means an expensive vehicle but with an average cost of purchase being $35K and up, they are not exactly cheap either. You have to have a decent job/income to really be able to afford one so I wouldn't say the statement doesn't apply.

[Steve - SanJose]

Whatever. When in doubt on this forum, try to be as caustic as possible. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

If I was poorly educated, broke, divorced, asset poor, unemployed, underemployed, non-functional, unfit, etc., I would have more time to waste and post thousands of worthless posts!

But some portion of the info on this forum is helpful for H3 owners and wannabe owners. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


S.

[walc]

I saw a Hummer internal marketing DVD, presented prior to the launch of the H3.
It had some interesting demographics, based upon Hummer's marketing research. Compared to H1 and H2 buyers, H3 buyers were forecast to be:
1. Better educated; at least 33% college graduates vs. 15% college graduate H1 and H2 buyers.
2. More self-assured, as opposed to caring what others think and status conscious.
3. Comfortable, yet lower income than H1/H2 buyers.
4. Younger and many more females.
5. More concerned with value for the dollar.
I had just traded my H3, for an H2 SUT, when I saw the DVD. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif Needless to say, I wasn't happy that research revealed that I'm most likely a poorly educated, older male, with low self-esteem, and more money than sense. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
As I said, these are Hummer marketing conclusions, not mine; so don't flame me. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Grandman]

I dont seem to fit in the H 3 group then . I only had a 2 year degree , pretty much an ornery old red neck with a lot of real world knowledge but can hardly run a PC http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[NEOCON1]

hey that many more female part , does that mean we will get lucky more often http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif LOLOL

[ETD]

hey that many more female part , does that mean we will get lucky more often

Yeah. Forget about all the male ranting. More female posts, with pictures, please. Pretty please. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[h2co-pilot]

Huck,



SO.. you expect a Hummer forum to be boring and informative? Read H2Finally's post again- that was beautiful H.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


People with Hummers have bought them with the good money they have earned with their talent and intelligence- and they have taken that money and plunked it down to buy the funnest most unique vehicles on the planet.

Hence, in this collaboration of individuals- you appear shocked that their gathering place is fun and entertaining. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Let's gander at one of your first posts shall we:

Originally posted by Huck BB62:
I posted on another forum, found this one. There seems to be a LOT more activity on this forum! What a vehicle. You folks offroadin' are an inspiration.

'06 H3 with adventure pack. The side bars are coming off tomorrow, rock sliders going on. <span class="ev_code_RED">Dee dee dee, I should have bought a Volvo wagon.</span> http://overtorqued.net/forum/images/smilies/rollfawk.gif


Now this indicates that you are well aware of the other forums out there.http://overtorqued.net/forum/images/smilies/gtfo.gif

[NEOCON1]

i get dirty looks from Volvo wagons http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and i like it that way http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Huck BB62]

Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
Huck,



SO.. you expect a Hummer forum to be boring and informative? Read H2Finally's post again- that was beautiful H.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


People with Hummers have bought them with the good money they have earned with their talent and intelligence- and they have taken that money and plunked it down to buy the funnest most unique vehicles on the planet.

Hence, in this collaboration of individuals- you appear shocked that their gathering place is fun and entertaining. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Let's gander at one of your first posts shall we:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Huck BB62:
I posted on another forum, found this one. There seems to be a LOT more activity on this forum! What a vehicle. You folks offroadin' are an inspiration.

'06 H3 with adventure pack. The side bars are coming off tomorrow, rock sliders going on. <span class="ev_code_RED">Dee dee dee, I should have bought a Volvo wagon.</span> http://overtorqued.net/forum/images/smilies/rollfawk.gif


Now this indicates that you are well aware of the other forums out there.http://overtorqued.net/forum/images/smilies/gtfo.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dayum, you actually went back and read my posts. Now that's dedicated harrassment! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

H2Finally talks TO people, not about 'em, and not down to them. Pretty good manners, and the effort is appreciated. Sinking to the lowest common denominator, particularly on the web, seems to be a hobby of some.

Today, I feel better. Drove over to a neighbor's house to check out an old still site from the prohibition days and scope out some giant ponderosa pine trunks for bear carvings. The knee feels like I've got gravel stuck in it but what the hell. Top open, windows down, 150' tall trees all around, blue sky, the horses, puppies, chickens, cows, hawks. Life it good. I'm thinking late night posting while breaking off of heavy duty pain killers was not a good idea. Seems like I touched a nerve or ten.

Sorry to offend you folks and interrupt your fun. That is all.

[KenP]

Don't apologize, it was about to get good until H2F stepped in. BTW, you'd be amazed at just how many of us have met face-to-face and how many sarcastic inside jokes are going on right in front of your face. Here's one coming now: H2F, get back to work!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Chip]

It doesn't bother me in fact it makes me feel young again. There is a lot of good H-3 stuff on this board compared with the few others. Most 4x4 boards are a lot like this. So I keep hoping maybe some of these youngsters will invite me to go with them, I could be the guide. We could get one of the soccer mom's to be my chaperon.

[h2co-pilot]

Originally posted by Huck BB62:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
Huck,



SO.. you expect a Hummer forum to be boring and informative? Read H2Finally's post again- that was beautiful H.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


People with Hummers have bought them with the good money they have earned with their talent and intelligence- and they have taken that money and plunked it down to buy the funnest most unique vehicles on the planet.

Hence, in this collaboration of individuals- you appear shocked that their gathering place is fun and entertaining. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Let's gander at one of your first posts shall we:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Huck BB62:
I posted on another forum, found this one. There seems to be a LOT more activity on this forum! What a vehicle. You folks offroadin' are an inspiration.

'06 H3 with adventure pack. The side bars are coming off tomorrow, rock sliders going on. <span class="ev_code_RED">Dee dee dee, I should have bought a Volvo wagon.</span> http://overtorqued.net/forum/images/smilies/rollfawk.gif


Now this indicates that you are well aware of the other forums out there.http://overtorqued.net/forum/images/smilies/gtfo.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dayum, you actually went back and read my posts. Now that's dedicated harrassment! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

H2Finally talks TO people, not about 'em, and not down to them. Pretty good manners, and the effort is appreciated. Sinking to the lowest common denominator, particularly on the web, seems to be a hobby of some.

Today, I feel better. Drove over to a neighbor's house to check out an old still site from the prohibition days and scope out some giant ponderosa pine trunks for bear carvings. The knee feels like I've got gravel stuck in it but what the hell. Top open, windows down, 150' tall trees all around, blue sky, the horses, puppies, chickens, cows, hawks. Life it good. I'm thinking late night posting while breaking off of heavy duty pain killers was not a good idea. Seems like I touched a nerve or ten.

Sorry to offend you folks and interrupt your fun. That is all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good boy, I knew you would come around.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Now go get that foresaken pebble out of your knee and have fun......Poo Poo Breath.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Huck BB62]

Thanks for the patience.

I know this is off topic, but any tips on dealing with the quagmire of dealing with Blue Shield would be good. I swear, they're not a medical insurance company, they're just a bunch of Dave Slaters saying "No, No, No, No, No, No" You can't BELIEVE things they try to weasel out of every single thing they can. I never hear 'em complaining when they get the $14k a year from me and the company! Twenty one years, I never went to the doctor and paid premiums, now that I'm breaking down from the years of work, I'm treated like some low life panhandler. It's enough to make one go postal.

[Sewie]

Huck - I'm going through the same thing with Blue Cross PPO right now. I had the hospital try to bill me $9K directly because of BC's billing errors. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif This was in May and they still haven't figured it out. The one thing I've learned is to document EVERYTHING!!! Keep all your EOB's handy, get names of everyone you talk to, etc. And then just keep hounding them.

[Steve - SanJose]

Originally posted by Huck BB62:
Thanks for the patience.

I know this is off topic, but any tips on dealing with the quagmire of dealing with Blue Shield would be good. I swear, they're not a medical insurance company, they're just a bunch of Dave Slaters saying "No, No, No, No, No, No" You can't BELIEVE things they try to weasel out of every single thing they can. I never hear 'em complaining when they get the $14k a year from me and the company! Twenty one years, I never went to the doctor and paid premiums, now that I'm breaking down from the years of work, I'm treated like some low life panhandler. It's enough to make one go postal.

off topic: Huck BB62 - Thanks for the heads-up on Blue Shield. I have this insurance but so far no problems. But my claims have only been a few hundred bucks so far.

S.

[Dan]

Is it ok to post bewbies now? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[DDWH]

Originally posted by Dan:
Is it ok to post bewbies now? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I would think so! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Bill1065]

I really didn't think much of this thread until I was helping my 14 year old God daughter with her geometry while browzing the Elcova H3 forum photo section of this site, looking for add-ons (like the XTC light bar)for my new black H3.It was then I noticed her peering over to see what I was doing and she commented on the H3 rims in a photo. It was then it really hit home that avitars showing flames shooting out of a woman's butt and cartoons of a woman's bust flopping around, etc. is not the kind of thing I would be comfy with in a family setting or even my kind of friends. It just had not occurred to me until that moment that this site will be something I will have to hide from people and friends in order to get needed information from other actual H3 users. But if this is what the majority wants and approves of I guess I'll have to respect that. I am a newbee here and really need the info on what is a practical self-install and what is not, and I have yet to come across an H3 site with people as knowledgeable as some of you are. Don't be upset; I don't expect the exotic avitars to dissappear, but felt I should give my honest opinion. Like it was forstated; no one is twisting my arm to be here. It is my choice until I decide to move on.

[HummerNewbie]

Bill, I think you put it how others that have complained should have put it. You have not tried to impose what you want to see or not to see on everyone else on here. You are simply voicing your observation on it and not asking for any kind of change. If I had children around I would be careful of what I looked at on here when they were around but I don't so not worries. Now if your friends would be upset by it but you never really noticed, are they really good friends with such different view that you have to hide this site from them. Not questioning your friendships or choices in friends, just asking a question.

[Steve - SanJose]

Yea the flaming butt picture is cool. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Oops I mean not good family entertainment. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

The reality is that very little of this forum resembles the true Hummer world or reflects the typical Hummer owner. But it's still sometimes amusing and helpful.

S.

[Bill1065]

Guess what I'm really trying to say it was a bit of a wake up call to me, and as you say; certainly I will have to be more careful. My friends are the kind of friends I really want. It's not so much an idea to upset them as much as giving them a misleading impression about me, when all I really want is the know how to install a light bar. I really don't know how else to explain it, but I hope you get my drift.

[Sewie]

Are you the one with the flaming butt/bewbie avatar? Then why would your friends get the wrong idea? This is a forum populated by adults (mostly http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) who express themselves in different ways. Their actions are not a reflection on you.

If the images are really an issue for you, then turn them off.

[HummerNewbie]

Originally posted by Bill1065:
Guess what I'm really trying to say it was a bit of a wake up call to me, and as you say; certainly I will have to be more careful. My friends are the kind of friends I really want. It's not so much an idea to upset them as much as giving them a misleading impression about me, when all I really want is the know how to install a light bar. I really don't know how else to explain it, but I hope you get my drift.

I think we all understand and I hope you do find the info you need here. Hopefully you will also have info that someone else is looking for.

[walc]

Originally posted by Bill1065:
Guess what I'm really trying to say it was a bit of a wake up call to me, and as you say; certainly I will have to be more careful. My friends are the kind of friends I really want. It's not so much an idea to upset them as much as giving them a misleading impression about me, when all I really want is the know how to install a light bar. I really don't know how else to explain it, but I hope you get my drift.

I would be embarrassed to have people think I was viewing vulgar pics, in the presence of a 14 year old. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
I have defended people, on child sex abuse charges, who did less.

[Bill1065]

Well, I've made it plain as I possibly can Sewie. Now all I'm asking is a way to do as you recommend; turn the Avitars off, but I can find no option for that, unless you or someone can help there. Any advise would be appreciated.

[deicustoms1]

Of course it wouldn't shock a 14 year old, but it's not his kid, it's his God daughter.

Go borrow your neighbors kid and show him tits and ass and see what his parents have to say to you!

[walc]

Originally posted by deicustoms:
Of course it wouldn't shock a 14 year old, but it's not his kid, it's his God daughter.

Go borrow your neighbors kid and show him tits and ass and see what his parents have to say to you!

As well as what the police say, when they arrest you.

[walc]

Originally posted by Alec W:
Give me a break, you think the tit avatar and flaming butt are gonna shock a 14 year old?
What world do you live in and don't you think that same 14 year old is saying words like **** with her friends in school?

So, if 14 year olds have sex, with each other, you believe that adults ( over 18 yoa, by law ) are allowed to have sex with them?
Try it. In MD, you face life imprisonment, even if the 14 year old consented.

[deicustoms1]

It's not shock factor, it's parents not wanting their kids exposed to such things especially by other people. Would you have a problem sending your daughter over to your brothers house and having your brother show her pictures of tits and boobs?

If not that's messed up....

[walc]

Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by deicustoms:
Of course it wouldn't shock a 14 year old, but it's not his kid, it's his God daughter.

Go borrow your neighbors kid and show him tits and ass and see what his parents have to say to you!

As well as what the police say, when they arrest you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think when I was about 14 was when I realized that if I jack off the stiffy for a while stuff comes out.

OMG you people are so uptight and evidently live a sheltered puritan life http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Once again, you espouse that because 14 year olds are allegedly aware of sex, it is alright for adults to show them dirty pics.
I've heard that rationale before. Of course, I was defending a pedophile.

[PARAGON]

This is absurd!

How the hell do you relate statutory rape with a kid seeing no more than what they see on MTV or Beavis and Butthead?

To suggest that what goes on here is somehow criminal is, in and of itself, criminal. To twist things into a soap box standing spew of nonsense is ridiculous. You are the ones that should be ashamed of yourselves, if you truly feel that the avatars and crap here are so damning. It's your irresponsibility to continue posting and/or viewing post here under the guise of getting information for your vehicle.

If you want to learn crap about your truck in a stale, colorless environment go grab a service manual and read it.

[walc]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
This is absurd!

How the hell do you relate statutory rape with a kid seeing no more than what they see on MTV or Beavis and Butthead?

To suggest that what goes on here is somehow criminal is, in and of itself, criminal. To twist things into a soap box standing spew of nonsense is ridiculous. You are the ones that should be ashamed of yourselves, if you truly feel that the avatars and crap here are so damning. It's your irresponsibility to continue posting and/or viewing post here under the guise of getting information for your vehicle.

If you want to learn crap about your truck in a stale, colorless environment go grab a service manual and read it.

The very grapic pictures and avatars, posted on this forum, are not suitable for children.
Do you understand, pervert?

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by walc:
Once again, you espouse that because 14 year olds are allegedly aware of sex, it is alright for adults to show them dirty pics.
I've heard that rationale before. Of course, I was defending a pedophile. You are an idiot and should be disbarred if you "espouse" that anything written here somehow condones criminal behavior. Using your logic, a person that's watching an R-rated movie when a 14 year old walks into the room should be prosecuted as a pedophile.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by walc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
This is absurd!

How the hell do you relate statutory rape with a kid seeing no more than what they see on MTV or Beavis and Butthead?

To suggest that what goes on here is somehow criminal is, in and of itself, criminal. To twist things into a soap box standing spew of nonsense is ridiculous. You are the ones that should be ashamed of yourselves, if you truly feel that the avatars and crap here are so damning. It's your irresponsibility to continue posting and/or viewing post here under the guise of getting information for your vehicle.

If you want to learn crap about your truck in a stale, colorless environment go grab a service manual and read it.

The very grapic pictures and avatars, posted on this forum, are not suitable for children.
Do you understand, pervert? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>...... No, that was not your point, dumbass. You equated something that is "not suitable for children" to pedophilic acts.

[walc]

Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by deicustoms:
Of course it wouldn't shock a 14 year old, but it's not his kid, it's his God daughter.

Go borrow your neighbors kid and show him tits and ass and see what his parents have to say to you!

As well as what the police say, when they arrest you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think when I was about 14 was when I realized that if I jack off the stiffy for a while stuff comes out.

OMG you people are so uptight and evidently live a sheltered puritan life http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Once again, you espouse that because 14 year olds are allegedly aware of sex, it is alright for adults to show them dirty pics.
I've heard that rationale before. Of course, I was defending a pedophile. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Why do you continue to assume what I wrote alludes to something else?

All I said (if you take the time to actually read it) is that a 1 inch avatar of a covered tit or flaming ass (no pussy in that avatar) is not a big deal for a 14 year old to accidently see and will not shock them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are the one who changes positions, like a snake sheds its' skin.
The premise is that it is improper to show filthy pics, to children. You disagree. My experience is that those who share your opinion are pedophiles. Understand?

[H2Finally]

walc, it mustta burn you to be defending a pedophile. If I come near a known pedo, I'd be hard-pressed not to kick him in the nuts with a steel-toed boots. Maybe a dozen or so times, just to make sure. Unless he's innocent.

[walc]

Paragon,
You and others who support showing filth to children are perverted. Understand, Marine wannabe?

[walc]

Originally posted by H2Finally:
walc, it mustta burn you to be defending a pedophile. If I came near a known pedo, I'd be hard-pressed not to kick him in the nuts with a steel-toed boots. Maybe a dozen or so times, just to make sure. Unless he's innocent.

That is the problem.
Some accused are innocent and many aren't.
A lawyer doesn't usually know, until late in the process, if ever.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by walc:
The premise is that it is improper to show filthy pics, to children. No it's not. You have redirected the premise to satisfy some illegitimate argument you have. What's worse is your condemnation of what's here in direct conflict with your continued participation.

[walc]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
The premise is that it is improper to show filthy pics, to children. No it's not. You have redirected the premise to satisfy some illegitimate argument you have. What's worse is your condemnation of what's here in direct conflict with your continued participation. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wrong, as usual, you inbred child molester.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by walc:
Paragon,
You and others who support showing filth to children are perverted. Understand, Marine wannabe? Is this the manner in which you choose to defend your clients?

No wonder you accept credit cards.

[shipbldr]

If you guys all do a group hug I'm going to puke...

[walc]

Originally posted by Alec W:
Is this a bad picture?

To show to a child?
It is illegal, in the USA, for an adult to do so. It is child sex abuse.

[walc]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
Paragon,
You and others who support showing filth to children are perverted. Understand, Marine wannabe? Is this the manner in which you choose to defend your clients?

No wonder you accept credit cards. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I consider any insult, from a child molester, like you, is a compliment.
Those of you who advocate that it is OK, to show filthy pictures to children, are morally bankrupt and perverted.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by walc:
Wrong, as usual, you inbred child molester. Nice, just like the attorney I would want to represent me if I was wrongfully accused.

Oh wait.......... that's exactly what you've been doing here all night.

[deicustoms1]

If you were browsing the forum with your god daughter and pulled that up, then yes, that would be a bad pic.

And then she goes home and tells mommy and daddy that you showed her pictures of britney spears boobies and you get to explain why you were looking at nude pics with your god daughter. But hey...maybe your family is cool with that, a lot aren't though. Which was the main point, which seems to have been missed. Remember the guy and his god daughter?

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by walc:
I consider any insult, from a child molester, like you, is a complment.
Those of you who advocate that it is OK, to show filthy pictures to children, are morally bankrupt and perverted. But you somehow can reconcile your non-ethical pursuits as somehow taking the high-road.

You, calling me a child molester is somehow morally just...... right!

[deicustoms1]

Yes, but again, it would be different if my uncle gave me the girly mags and looked at it with me.

Which was the point the guy was making... if the 14 year old wants to go online and look at the avatars here, fine. but it's different when an adult is involved.

[walc]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
Wrong, as usual, you inbred child molester. Nice, just like the attorney I would want to represent me if I was wrongfully accused.

Oh wait.......... that's exactly what you've been doing here all night. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wouldn't represent you or any other KKK member.

[walc]

Originally posted by deicustoms:
Yes, but again, it would be different if my uncle gave me the girly mags and looked at it with me.

Which was the point the guy was making... if the 14 year old wants to go online and look at the avatars here, fine. but it's different when an adult is involved.

Exactly.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by deicustoms:
If you were browsing the forum with your god daughter and pulled that up, then yes, that would be a bad pic.

And then she goes home and tells mommy and daddy that you showed her pictures of britney spears boobies and you get to explain why you were looking at nude pics with your god daughter. But hey...maybe your family is cool with that, a lot aren't though. Which was the main point, which seems to have been missed. Remember the guy and his god daughter? No, your advocate is the one that has forgotten the "premise" here. It is his fault and irresponsiblity to be browsing this site in the presense of his god daughter if that is what offends.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by walc:
I wouldn't represent you or any other KKK member. Love quoting ya.

Don't worry, I am a little bit smarter than that and am not baited very easily. Besides, these are very weak attempts at personal attacks.

[H2Finally]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by deicustoms:
If you were browsing the forum with your god daughter and pulled that up, then yes, that would be a bad pic.

And then she goes home and tells mommy and daddy that you showed her pictures of britney spears boobies and you get to explain why you were looking at nude pics with your god daughter. But hey...maybe your family is cool with that, a lot aren't though. Which was the main point, which seems to have been missed. Remember the guy and his god daughter? No, your advocate is the one that has forgotten the "premise" here. It is his fault and irresponsiblity to be browsing this site in the presense of his god daughter if that is what offends. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>x2

This is NOT a forum for 14 year olds. Girl or boy. In fact, I recall a time when a young person registered and asked questions, and just about everyone here chased the kid away.

Nothing wrong with flaming butt or covered boobies avatar (though not my personal preference) for an ADULT forum.

[walc]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
I consider any insult, from a child molester, like you, is a complment.
Those of you who advocate that it is OK, to show filthy pictures to children, are morally bankrupt and perverted. But you somehow can reconcile your non-ethical pursuits as somehow taking the high-road.

You, calling me a child molester is somehow morally just...... right! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

For once, I agree with you.
I have enjoyed learning Hummer info and joking with people on this board. However, the filth that permeates this board is not compatible with the morals I aspire to; although, I often fall short.
I refuse to condone, by silence or otherwise, adults who believe it is OK to show porn to
children. However, that seems to be the majority view here. Therefore, I will have to withdraw from further participation, in any manner.
I will miss many of you; but, I can't reconcile
the filth with my beliefs.

[H2Finally]

Then, I must say, walc, you're a bona-fide IDIOT.

Inadvertantly showing this forum to kids is hardly equal to "show porn to children".

It's not your morals that's a problem. It's your intellect.

[frank6150]

Walcy walcy walcy... You disappoint me my friend. You know you have no right to say the things you have about Paragon. He is more than able to fend for himself however so I will leave it at that.

Personally this whole damn country is a bit too uptight anymore, let alone this one forum. The net is not always a place for children as I'm sure 99% of people with half a brain should know. As far as avatars are concerned I've seen more graphic pictures on TLC at 5pm on a Tuesday.

Forcing a child to look at nudity is wrong, no doubt. There was no nudity and the child was not forced to view it.

If you really think about it a mother or father could be watching tv with a child and flick through channels at almost any given time and come upon graphic material just the same as can happen online anywhere at any given time. In that respect just change the channel or close the web page. **** happens.

[deicustoms1]

The bottom line is...this isn't a family friendly website (and there is no reason for it to be) and one person realized that and mentioned it after noticing "questionable" content in the presence of his god daughter.

Forcing is definately wrong, exposing is also wrong IMO. Again, especially if it's not your child. I don't find it to be my right to deceide wether certain "questionable" content is appropriate for my nephews.

While I have absolutely no problems with this forum, because I apparently am not in the same situation as the original poster (on this particular part of the thread), I do understand where he is coming from. And would not consider this a site for browsing with the nephew. But luckily for me my nephews are only interested in nickjr.com, so I have it easy. :P

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by walc:

For once, I agree with you.
I have enjoyed learning Hummer info and joking with people on this board. However, the filth that permeates this board is not compatible with the morals I aspire to; although, I often fall short.
I refuse to condone, by silence or otherwise, adults who believe it is OK to show porn to
children. However, that seems to be the majority view here. Therefore, I will have to withdraw from further participation, in any manner.
I will miss many of you; but, I can't reconcile
the filth with my beliefs. Give us a collective break..... if my yawn get's any bigger they'll be giving it a hurricane name. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[KenP]

Originally posted by walc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
Is this a bad picture?

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/ga/ul/4951067951/inlineimg/Y/untitled.JPG

To show to a child?
It is illegal, in the USA, for an adult to do so. It is child sex abuse. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>If the child walks in and just happens to see that picture on your computer screen, you are not "showing" it too them. There is a difference here.

What about the parents having sex and the child walks in on them? That's got to be really bad stuff.

[KenP]

I tried to point out the differences with the above post.

[TexasRTR78]

Originally posted by walc:
I saw a Hummer internal marketing DVD, presented prior to the launch of the H3.
It had some interesting demographics, based upon Hummer's marketing research. Compared to H1 and H2 buyers, H3 buyers were forecast to be:
1. Better educated; at least 33% college graduates vs. 15% college graduate H1 and H2 buyers.
2. More self-assured, as opposed to caring what others think and status conscious.
3. Comfortable, yet lower income than H1/H2 buyers.
4. Younger and many more females.
5. More concerned with value for the dollar.
I had just traded my H3, for an H2 SUT, when I saw the DVD. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif Needless to say, I wasn't happy that research revealed that I'm most likely a poorly educated, older male, with low self-esteem, and more money than sense. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
As I said, these are Hummer marketing conclusions, not mine; so don't flame me. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.smilie.dk/store_smiley/001.gif BBWWWWAAAHHHHH!!! Absolutely hilarious!!!!

[NEOCON1]

SSWWWEEEEEETTTTT PPPIIICCCCCCCC http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Sewie]

Originally posted by KenP:
I tried to point out the differences with the above post.

Now your new avatar, that's offen.....I mean spectacular. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Sewie]

Originally posted by walc:
Therefore, I will have to withdraw from further participation, in any manner.


Please tell me you're serious this time. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[KenP]

Originally posted by Sewie:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
I tried to point out the differences with the above post.

Now your new avatar, that's offen.....I mean spectacular. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE> It's only temporary. In honor of this thread and all those people out there that know how to close their browser when young children come around.

[Bill1065]

As far as I am concerned the "incident" was my fault. I was not thinking with the kid in the room because I was too busy with my own agenda; new wheels and an outrageously over priced ITC light bar. That little episode was a reality check to re-evaluate my priorities. Sure, I hope she did not notice the avitars. I am not worried though. I know kids these days are not totally naive to such things, and she remains a loving child. We had a little tickle fight before she left.

Now I know of many other sites containing other subjects that are full of people enjoying their stuff, whether it be laptops, cameras or motorcycles without the exotic avitars. So making a claim that such a website without such avitars if as "boring as a manual" to me seems more than a little far fetched.

So what was I really trying to say here? Is it okay to willingly show such avitars to kids? I think not, but rather, what sort of self image do I want to portray to others? Should I care if an adult or child misinterprets my character? Call me up tight if you want; call my friends up tight, as was already done; but I suggest that it's only the way you look at things from your perspective; I happen to be looking with a different perspective; what is uptight to you is a good thing to me and others like me. My perspective in a nutshell is this; I happen to care if what I do involves and affects those that matter to me as well as their opinion of me. If caring in such a way is a crime then I am guilty. If my friends and I seem to live in a strange way to you it's Ok. What is more important is that I am happy with our "uptight" way of life. My opinion is if the world were just a little more "uptight" it would be a better place... but that's only my uptight perspective. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[DRTYFN]

Originally posted by walc:

For once, I agree with you.
I have enjoyed learning Hummer info and joking with people on this board. However, the filth that permeates this board is not compatible with the morals I aspire to; although, I often fall short.
I refuse to condone, by silence or otherwise, adults who believe it is OK to show porn to
children. However, that seems to be the majority view here. Therefore, I will have to withdraw from further participation, in any manner.
I will miss many of you; but, I can't reconcile
the filth with my beliefs.
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Klaus]

Remember NAPA Parts Pups magazine?

[Bill1065]

It is the belief today that kids can be so easily traumatized but I find it extraordinary how resilient they actually are. I think we adults are the ones offended and hurt over some things much more than the children. I think your dad's perspective was one he was OK with, just as you are OK with it. Those pics were intended for him and those like him. He may have even thought it appropriate to allow you to see them to keep you on the heterosexual path of men. This I suppose was common enough back in the day. I remember my old man remarking over certain women in a sensual way to me. I felt kinda awkward but whatever. I never faulted him for it.

The fact remains that I am not this childs actual father and have no right to allow such things, even inadvertently.

[DRTYFN]

Originally posted by walc:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by walc:
I consider any insult, from a child molester, like you, is a complment.
Those of you who advocate that it is OK, to show filthy pictures to children, are morally bankrupt and perverted. But you somehow can reconcile your non-ethical pursuits as somehow taking the high-road.

You, calling me a child molester is somehow morally just...... right! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

For once, I agree with you.
I have enjoyed learning Hummer info and joking with people on this board. However, the filth that permeates this board is not compatible with the morals I aspire to; although, I often fall short.
I refuse to condone, by silence or otherwise, adults who believe it is OK to show porn to
children. However, that seems to be the majority view here. Therefore, I will have to withdraw from further participation, in any manner.
I will miss many of you; but, I can't reconcile
the filth with my beliefs. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What a fruit.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[DarthKarl]

Originally posted by walc:
Therefore, I will have to withdraw from further participation, in any manner.

Here's hoping that the 3rd time is the charm.

By the way, it never fails that the censorship mob always hides behind the banter of the "save the children" theme.

The thought-nazis take the view that other people are not to be trusted with freedom of choice or speech, and that it is their duty to act as moral guardians for society. Their excuse (and that's all it is, an excuse) to impose their lowest common denominator views is that it's only to "save the children." How many time have you heard this sorry ass excuse as a pretense for censorship?

We need to save the children from: (here you get to pick)
1) guns
2) SUVs
3) tobacco
4) fast food
5) evolution
6) violence on TV
7) "The Catcher in the Rye"
8) George Carlin
9) OR WHATEVER THE F*CK OFFENDS YOU

If you want to impose your perspective on the rest of us, at least have the balls to stop hiding behind the moral shield of “I’m just doing it for the children.”

Here’s my perspective: If you don’t like want you see or read...then don’t look at it or don’t read it! And whenever you hear someone say there ought to be something done to “save the children” its time to open your eyes and call bullsh*t.

[Bill1065]

Hmmm...Never said I didn't like what I read or saw here. Don't know where that came from. I can overlook many things, but my God daughter is a different matter. So in this case I am guilty again; of "doing it for the children" like you said.
Didn't intend to control anyones thoughts on the matter though with a simple observation about kids though.

Sorry if you take me for a thought nazi. That honestly was not my intention. Just trying to fit in. But if you guys just don't want me here I would appreciate some honesty about it. I will understand.

...Oh, I know, this is some sort of initiation test to welcome me to the club. You guys! Awww shucks! I get it now. I can play along. So I guess my role is to stick with you guys for ever and post on every thread until you guys say I passed the test. I read about this on another thread here. You guys are too much! Gosh Darn! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Oh, check out my new avitar. Cool huh? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

LETS SEE...

8 PAGES ON ''(NON) '' HUMMER H-3 , OH, I LOVE MY TRUCK OR THEY COULD HAVE DONE THIS TO MAKE IT BETTER OR THE XXX EXHUST SYSTEM IS GREAT OR DID YOUR MODULE XXX SHOW THIS ON THE DASH...

COME GIRLS & GUYS

8 PAGES OF CRAP !

YES ITS AN OPEN FORUM, BUT A FOR ABOUT THE H-3

JUST MY THOUGHTS...

RYD

[h2co-pilot]

Here we go again. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Just for the record-

No female on this forum has ever complained about it's contents.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

In fact, I believe we have never had a complaint until the H3 section came along. Not saying that all H3er's are nazis, just an observation that you have many resident cockblocks.

Bill1065, you were supposed to be helping with geometry. If I were the girl or the parents I would think not only are you a complete pervert but neglectful in her quest to help her with homework.

Walc- omg give it a rest. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Most car forums are synonymous in the fact that they have women depicted as objects or conversation. In fact, car enthusiasm has always been synonymous in the fact that they have women depicted as objects or conversation. The calenders, pictures, ads and models alongside beautiful machines is, has been and always will be a part of our culture. Did any of you uptight fellas protest the lingerie bowl at halftime or the cheerleaders at any professional game for that matter?

The internet is a place for access to everything. Think of this forum as access to a garage with a bunch of men standing around- Bill1065, would you bring your god daughter to that garage to help her with her geometry?Really now, either you are looking for an outlet for anger because you were embarrassed or you are delusional. I would say both.

Lastly, I would believe that if you had any need for specific info, your dealer would happily provide you with what you need. If there is something he wasn't familiar with, I'm sure you could drive on down to a parts garage, mechanic, or an audio technical installer, detailer, off-road shop or automotive detailer to help you with any questions you may have. Just make sure your "kind of friends", family and any other god children riding along with you cover their skeletal orifices.

[Bill1065]

Interesting; the comment about being a pervert; Is that the impression I could give her or her parents for just being on this forum? Really? I guess I need to re-evaluate why I'm here. I think you really hit home this time.

Yah, and your right, but then I admited it was my fault. In point of fact I did help her a lot; without my help she would have had a serious setback. Like I say again, I acknowledge the fact that I will have to be more careful next time... But then, there doesn't have to be a next time now does it? I can surf elsewhere for H3 info.

Not sure where anger and delusion comes in though, I admit I could never have predicted such a remark from someone who has been reading my words up till now.

Hmmm...I think I will stick to forums for real first hand user experience. Dealers and shops tend to charge a lot when I have the capability of either installing the part myself or fabricating one that looks just as good or better.

But seriously, yes, you are quite right, this is not the place for me either. Thanks for making that more clear in a nice way. To the others; no offense intended and have a nice life.

[Bill1065]

Actually It already has, but Alec, its something I can take if it means having a more dependable and responsible relationship with those I care for.

Again, have a nice life.

[h2co-pilot]

Originally posted by Bill1065:
Interesting; the comment about being a pervert; Is that the impression I could give her or her parents for just being on this forum? Really? <span class="ev_code_RED">My delusion point is made.</span> I guess I need to re-evaluate why I'm here. I think you really hit home this time.

Yah, and your right, but then I admited it was my fault. In point of fact I did help her a lot; without my help she would have had a serious setback. Like I say again, I acknowledge the fact that I will have to be more careful next time... But then, there doesn't have to be a next time now does it? I can surf elsewhere for H3 info. <span class="ev_code_RED">Exactly, and I hope your precious eyes do not get tainted with breasts again. Oh the humanity.</span> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Not sure where anger and delusion comes in though, I admit I could never have predicted such a remark from someone who has been reading my words up till now.

Hmmm...I think I will stick to forums for real first hand user experience. <span class="ev_code_RED">Not going to find another as useful as this one- I predict you'll be back in a wig.</span>Dealers and shops tend to charge a lot when I have the capability of either installing the part myself or fabricating one that looks just as good or better.

But seriously, yes, you are quite right, this is not the place for me either. Thanks for making that more clear in a nice way. To the others; no offense intended and have a nice life. Poor pervert likes to type doesn't he?

[PARAGON]

Hmmm, check out Bill1065's Profile (http://adrenalintrip.extreme.com/user/profile/10285?siteid=1&mode=view)

[h2co-pilot]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
Hmmm, check out Bill1065's Profile (http://adrenalintrip.extreme.com/user/profile/10285?siteid=1&mode=view)

That is rich!http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Bill1065]

Nice one, but seeing that I am 55 years old, (as posted on the age thread here?) I hardly think the interest section fits the description:

DH mountain biking, mini bikes, BMX, 4x, dirt jumping...etc

You guys! What a bunch! You are too much for me.

Oh, and again, have a nice life guys.

[PARAGON]

Oh, but what would your friends and family think!

Too bad you're more concerned with appearances than reality.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by rubher yellow ducky:
LETS SEE...

8 PAGES ON ''(NON) '' HUMMER H-3 , OH, I LOVE MY TRUCK OR THEY COULD HAVE DONE THIS TO MAKE IT BETTER OR THE XXX EXHUST SYSTEM IS GREAT OR DID YOUR MODULE XXX SHOW THIS ON THE DASH...

COME GIRLS & GUYS

8 PAGES OF CRAP !

YES ITS AN OPEN FORUM, BUT A FOR ABOUT THE H-3

JUST MY THOUGHTS...

RYD Let's see...... it IS the H3 General section.

AND, the original poster is talking about the forum in General. This thread is exactly in tune with the forum and it's location.

Perhaps you compartmentalize everyone you meet and talk to as much as you would like to here. I guess discussion of other topics with people that share the same interest to you is asking a little too much.

[Bill1065]

Actually to put it as simply as I can I am more concerned with my relationship with my God daughter and her parents. Just because I pick my nose doesn't mean I need to do it in public now do I? Or am I describing someone here? So I feel appearance should mean something if it means keeping those you love (and not ending up in court). Though you may never admit it, I am sure you understand my point.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by Bill1065:
Actually to put it as simply as I can I am more concerned with my relationship with my God daughter and her parents. Just because I pick my nose doesn't mean I need to do it in public now do I? Or am I describing someone here? So I feel appearance should mean something if it means keeping those you love (and not ending up in court). Though you may never admit it, I am sure you understand my point. No, you are paring down your point after being called on the fact that you are worried that your "friends" might not be quite the friends you thought they were. Your passive attempt at condescencion was duly noted and very easy to pick out per your following quote:

Originally posted by Bill1065:
It was then it really hit home that avitars showing flames shooting out of a woman's butt and cartoons of a woman's bust flopping around, etc. is not the kind of thing I would be comfy with in a family setting or even my kind of friends. It just had not occurred to me until that moment that this site will be something I will have to hide from people and friends in order to get needed information from other actual H3 users.

Or were you not suggesting that the H3 owners that participate here are somehow below you.

[Bill1065]

All I said there was true and as usual you continue to read things into what I say that aren't there. Sad you can't even understand my point of view and my sort of friends though I explain it as simply as I can. Being above or below doen't even enter into the picture as far as I am concerned; they have their standards and I respect that. Apparently you just don't get it. Sorry you feel that way but it will not change them or me. However I will confess this; I have seen the error of my ways thru this thread. I would rather not post, But as long as you make groundless inferrences I am obligated to reply. My advise is to ignore me if you are able and your problem (me) will be instantly solved.

[shipbldr]

Dead cow...

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by Bill1065:
But as long as you make groundless inferrences I am obligated to reply. My advise is to ignore me if you are able and your problem (me) will be instantly solved. You are just full of yourself, aren't you.

Your ramblings here and your suggestion that you have NOT said what you have indeed said obligates me to reply. Take your own advice, sport. You chose to purport your opinion in this thread. You had some agenda while doing so and now you want to gloss it over. Do you really think anyone else cares that YOU decided that YOU should change when you view the forum. Why would one feel the need to share this with other members here?

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by shipbldr:
Dead cow... couldn't find a horse? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[DarthKarl]

Originally posted by Bill1065:
Actually to put it as simply as I can I am more concerned with my relationship with my God daughter and her parents. Just because I pick my nose doesn't mean I need to do it in public now do I? Or am I describing someone here? So I feel appearance should mean something if it means keeping those you love (and not ending up in court). Though you may never admit it, I am sure you understand my point.

Thanks for the sermon http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Bill1065]

Wow, you must really want me to stay apparently. Hey, I can go on for hours, days, months, however you want. Let's stick to the topic of what friends think. You honestly don't care what your friends think about you? I find that hard to believe.
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Bill1065]

You're quite welcome Brother Darth. And may I take this time out to say I am pleased as punch to be so wholeheartedly welcomed into this little H3 community!

[shipbldr]

Originally posted by Bill1065:
Wow, you must really want me to stay apparently. Hey, I can go on for hours, days, months, however you want. Let's stick to the topic of what friends think. You honestly don't care what your friends think about you? I find that hard to believe.
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Actually Bill, I am glad you stayed.

The purpose of the board is to interact...

If you would have let... well... My morning would be a bit more boring.

Without realizing it (or maybe you do and just haven't said anything) right now the board is living its purpose.

People are talking. Ideas are flowing...

And oh yeah Alec... it is supposed to be a dead horse, isn't it? I'll fix it... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Bill1065]

H2-Copilot I appreciate the come back but it's a little weak. Nothing really seems explained, especially the part about proving me delusional. The words you paraphrased were pretty much your own words about the parents thinking me a pervert, or rather, a complete pervert, whatever that means.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by Bill1065:
Wow, you must really want me to stay apparently. Hey, I can go on for hours, days, months, however you want. Let's stick to the topic of what friends think. You honestly don't care what your friends think about you? I find that hard to believe.
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif You are dense aren't you? Why dance around issues? You are providing the topic avenues and when you don't like what's said you want to "stick to the topic." Again, sport, take your own advice.

Besides, it was YOUR friends that was the topic, not mine.

[Bill1065]

Thanks shipbuilder, I can feel the hate, I mean good will flowing thru them. Soon they will come over to the dark side with me...

[CO Hummer]

I will never post on this forum again.

[CO Hummer]

pad

[Bill1065]

Hey paragon I'm all wrong so why don't you pick the topic. Fine with me since you apparently want me hear so badly!

[CO Hummer]

BTW. This is too freaky. MAC's avatar, MACs writing syle, MAC's condescention. Hmmm.

[Bill1065]

Well, it looks like I've run out of time for now; got to prepare for a funeral, but don't dispair Paragon, your good buddy will be back later this evening to glean over additional comments on this thread, and it's all because of you!

What? How did you know I owned a 17" Powerbook?

Bye for now! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[shipbldr]

Originally posted by Bill1065:
Hey paragon I'm all wrong so why don't you pick the topic. Fine with me since you apparently want me hear so badly!

Ok Bill, let's get something straight:

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LET PARAGON CHOOSE THE THREAD TOPICS!

I am not going to spend the next 5,000 posts discussing the finer points of boobies....

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by Bill1065:

What? How did you know I owned a 17" Powerbook?
Because you are a videographer from Hollywood.
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A simpleton who video tapes weddings in Hollywood, Florida. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by shipbldr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bill1065:
Hey paragon I'm all wrong so why don't you pick the topic. Fine with me since you apparently want me hear so badly!

Ok Bill, let's get something straight:

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LET PARAGON CHOOSE THE THREAD TOPICS!

I am not going to spend the next 5,000 posts discussing the finer points of boobies.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>No worries, I don't like fine-pointed boobies. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[shipbldr]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shipbldr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bill1065:
Hey paragon I'm all wrong so why don't you pick the topic. Fine with me since you apparently want me hear so badly!

Ok Bill, let's get something straight:

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LET PARAGON CHOOSE THE THREAD TOPICS!

I am not going to spend the next 5,000 posts discussing the finer points of boobies.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>No worries, I don't like fine-pointed boobies. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh Gawd! Here we go...

Look what you've done now Bill! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

(In a moment of ultimate IRONY Bill tilts the balance of power on the board... and sets the stage for a massive discussion of bewbies...)

[KenP]

Originally posted by Bill1065:
Nice one, but seeing that I am 55 years old, (as posted on the age thread here?)...
I just like the pic you have posted.

[shipbldr]

Originally posted by KenP:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bill1065:
Nice one, but seeing that I am 55 years old, (as posted on the age thread here?)...
I just like the pic you have posted. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey that's my sister!!!!

(Actually its not. I just thought this picture was good enough to post twice....)

[KenP]

Originally posted by CO Hummer:
BTW. This is too freaky. MAC's avatar, MACs writing syle, MAC's condescention. Hmmm. Dude, I was thinking the SAME thing.

[CO Hummer]

Originally posted by KenP:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
BTW. This is too freaky. MAC's avatar, MACs writing syle, MAC's condescention. Hmmm. Dude, I was thinking the SAME thing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was talking about you. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by CO Hummer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
BTW. This is too freaky. MAC's avatar, MACs writing syle, MAC's condescention. Hmmm. Dude, I was thinking the SAME thing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was talking about you. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Dude, I was thinking the same thing. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[CO Hummer]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
BTW. This is too freaky. MAC's avatar, MACs writing syle, MAC's condescention. Hmmm. Dude, I was thinking the SAME thing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was talking about you. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Dude, I was thinking the same thing. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


x3

[CampMaster]

Originally posted by Bill1065:
...What? How did you know I owned a 17" Powerbook?...

http://www.z06vette.com/gallery/data/500/135hijacklive.jpg

[CampMaster]

Originally posted by CO Hummer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
BTW. http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40057000/jpg/_40057047_shrek300.jpg Hmmm. Dude, I was thinking the SAME thing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was talking about you. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Dude, I was thinking the same thing. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


x3 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Interesting thing to ponder.. I guess it keeps your ears warm.

[HUMRCHIC]

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<span class="ev_code_RED">OMG!!!!!</span><span class="ev_code_BLUE">And they say that</span><span class="ev_code_GREEN">woman are drama queens....</span><span class="ev_code_RED">Boy are they ever wrong!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Geese....Shut up already...LOL</span> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

( ! ) ( * ) ( * )

[deicustoms1]

geese?! like the bird!? you guys are some sick sons of bitches......

[h2co-pilot]

I thought he was gone. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[CO Hummer]

Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
I thought he was gone. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I'm still here.

[h2co-pilot]

Originally posted by CO Hummer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
I thought he was gone. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I'm still here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh goody! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[westhillsat]

Hey CO Hummer,

Glad you're still here, see ya in chat sometime.

[h2co-pilot]

Chat tewnite?