X5's are EVIL!!!

[WhiteH2Kid]

Yesterday im sitting happily in my white H2 at a red light. The light turns green so whats the car do infront of me, well it dosent move so i dont move just give some honks next thin i know the X5 behind just went BOOM into the back of my truck. Since it is my first car i was very very angry. The spanish guy infront gets out and says look im sorry man my truck stalled and im like well you should of put hazards on and he goes listen man i gotta go he runs to his car and takes off. Well mean while i pull my truck off to the side of the road on the grass and the beautifully smashed X5 does the same. The cops are then called and arrive to the scene where the cop walks over to me and says so how far did you move when you got hit and i was like no where he replied dam this thing is built like a tank. Well to finish the story short the cop gives us a accident report and next thing he says is ok your free to go. The X5 was smashed had a crushed hood crushed bumper crushed lights crushed engine fan and most likely engine damae, well what happen to the HUMMER nothing but a broken hitch cover. The X5 had to be towed away as i drove home happy i didnt have severe damage. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[WhiteH2Kid]

Yesterday im sitting happily in my white H2 at a red light. The light turns green so whats the car do infront of me, well it dosent move so i dont move just give some honks next thin i know the X5 behind just went BOOM into the back of my truck. Since it is my first car i was very very angry. The spanish guy infront gets out and says look im sorry man my truck stalled and im like well you should of put hazards on and he goes listen man i gotta go he runs to his car and takes off. Well mean while i pull my truck off to the side of the road on the grass and the beautifully smashed X5 does the same. The cops are then called and arrive to the scene where the cop walks over to me and says so how far did you move when you got hit and i was like no where he replied dam this thing is built like a tank. Well to finish the story short the cop gives us a accident report and next thing he says is ok your free to go. The X5 was smashed had a crushed hood crushed bumper crushed lights crushed engine fan and most likely engine damae, well what happen to the HUMMER nothing but a broken hitch cover. The X5 had to be towed away as i drove home happy i didnt have severe damage. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[Buckeye Hummer]

I got bumped too by an acura. It put a hole in her hood and didn't even scratch my hitch. Oh well. I just let her go and didn't even call the police.

[H2 Daddy]

Let's see some pictures of your bumpers.

[SONA]

God I love the H2... would like to have seen a picture of the X-5. They should have given a ticket to the driver of the X-5 whether you got damage or not.

"Life is tough... tougher if youre stupid." "Just think, right now, all over the world there are people exercising bad judgement. Somebody, right this minute, is probably making the mistake of his life"

[WhiteH2Kid]

Dont have pictures sorry but i will take a pic of my broken hitch cover and little little bumper damage. also the cop said its a tank !!!

[Otto]

As I has stated in my 'H2 Top Speed' Discussion:
The H2 will end up as one of the safest vehicles on the road. The 'cosmetic' X-5 is not even in the same league.

[Grim_Smoker]

About 2 years ago now when I was still driving around my 2000 pewter Silverado 1500 ext. cab short bed (my first car), I had flashed down a buddy of mine I saw drivin down the road so he pulls onto the road and I pull in behind him, we park, he's about 6.5 feet in front of my truck, slight slight uphill rise. He gets out, and the passenger get out and we talk. After about 5 minutes my buddies g/f reaches up from the back seat of his car and turns the keys in the ignition off. With his car off, in park, with the parking brake on his ford taurus rolls into the front of my truck, leaving this 1cm x 1cm mark on my fake chrome plated bumper. My tow eyes put two holes in his bumper, bowed up his trunk, and cracked the piece between the bumper/trunk. 1800.00 in work, a small scratch to my truck. Can't imagine what that X5 looked like, hahahahaha.

-Grim

2003 Sunset Metalic Orange H2 - Breathless Stage 2B, HID's, Gobi Rack & Ladder.

2003 Millenium Yellow Z06

[argonaut]

Similar thing happened to me in my first car, an '83 Volvo wagon... I was backing up in a parking lot, and this dumb girl in a Honda comes barreling around the corner and smacks into the Volvo. Next thing you know, her car is smashede up beyond belief, and I have a cracked taillight. oops. That car was a tank. I have never trusted any cars from Japan after that. Oh, on a side note, my buddy had an Acura he banged up badly. So He parked at the bottom of my driveway (steep steep hill) and puts some blocks in front of his wheels. Then I put my hummer halfway up the hill, and attached my tow strap to the H2 and part of his little Japanese car. Then I florred it. Suffice to say, a lot of the body damage was pulled out. Once again, I lost any faith whatsoever in japanese car safety. My girlfriend drives an Acura, so I made her start driving my BMW M3 after that. I just didn't feel safe with her in a japanese car.

[DiscoDancingRover]

Sona way would you say the X5 should have gotten a ticket for? Japanesse cars are very safe actual. It may look bad but they will keep the occupent safe, it is more the Korean cars that are the least safe.

Rover owner, with light envy...

[SONA]

Chris, Safety and the issuance of a ticket are not related. Following to close, ie. driving one vehicle into the back of another vehicle is driving to close, or you were not paying attention when you failed to recognize the back of a huge truck (H2) stopped in front of you... that deserves a ticket in my book and it ensures that the other guys insurance company can't come after yours.

"Life is tough... tougher if youre stupid." "Just think, right now, all over the world there are people exercising bad judgement. Somebody, right this minute, is probably making the mistake of his life"

[DiscoDancingRover]

Ok thanks for clearing that up, I wasn't sure about that. But I still don't think X5s are evil, I like them...http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Rover owner, with light envy...

[Steve R]

Dear WhiteH2Kid,

I'm delighted to hear of the minimal damage to your H2...but I'm more concerned about you!

From your writing I can detect a good amount of trauma to your neck, not to mention the inflamation to your spine and several disc seeming a bit out of alignment.

I definitely smell a new stereo system...I mean settlement...I mean genuine medical concern here! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[TheGoodHummerMan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Steve R:
"From your writing I can detect a good amount of trauma to your neck, not to mention the inflamation to your spine and several disc seeming a bit out of alignment."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hey Whitey,

Don't forget to check for HIDDEN damage too! Check underneath to make sure it hasn't caused your H2 to start rusting... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Also, neck trauma sometimes doesn't present until after your first meeting with an attorney... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ed

[MAC]

The basic rule is that the auto in the back is at fault for obvious reason. In California, any auto accident damage over $750 must be reported to DMV, even when there is no ticket, besides bad weather or parked auto, a fault will be assigned to a party taking a point or 2 on the driving record. DMV stole a point from my record when my Hummer backed into a car causing $5000 in damages/repairs, which resulted in 50% jump in my new auto insurance premium.

X5 is nice, but too small and just too many everywhere. I went to Blockbuster and saw 4 black X5s on the same block. From home to school every morning, I see 8-10 X5s on that 2 miles and in the school, more BMWs than Hondas and Toyatas combined. Many people said X5 is problematic.

[Albie]

Well I have a X5 and Mac I think its bigger inside than my H2. Well if I moved the tire outside I think it might havet the same cargo space. thanks whiteh2kid I always wondered what would happen if I backed my H2 into my X5.

[argonaut]

mac, why is too many a bad thing? I think that is a bit elitist to feel like you need something that everybody else doesn't have. Sad... BMWs are great cars. they drive better than any other sedan on the road. the X5 may be not as fun as the H2, but for a "regular" SUV, they are the best. Plus they could kick an H2's ass on road any day. Off road it is a whole new ballgame.

[argonaut]

Sorry MAC, I didn't mean to be too harsh. My new Kegerator arrived today and I am testing it out. I'm a bit trashed.. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif No offense...

[MAC]

Argonaut, you were not harsh at all.

I said X5 is nice, what else do you want? My sister-in-law has one, I don't, I can't go any further than "Nice". Frankly I don't even know if it is nice or not, I was just being nice. I can be nicer by saying X5 is nicer, or I can be great by saying X5 is great. I said them all, just pick the one you like. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

X5 is too small for me, not inside, just the whole thing. I sat in there a couple times, it was, nice. It is not too small for every other person on this planet. I like big cars and I only want BIG cars, full size Cadillac, BenzS, BMW7 sedans are too small for me. That is me and I certainly hope you guys don't agree with me. A part of the reason why I like BIG cars is because I want to be different and bigger than everybody else on the road. It is not to my interest to have anyone agree with me. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Spidey]

So with refference to being an elitist, I'm assuming that meant yes. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


That is however a valid point. In reality we all wanted these mammoth
machines for those exact reasons. We know that they wont become a "common vehicle". It's a blast driving something of such identity, mystic and fame.
I enjoy spotting them as well, all seem so slightly different reflecting masters character and personality. Great Fun. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Peyton77]

I feel the need to defend my other car. The X5 is a very nice SAV it rides like a sports sedan but has more room then the average mid size sedan. It has been very good to me but now has be handed over to my wife.

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[hinten]

Oh jeez, Peyton77.
I have the exact same set-up even the same colors! Say what you want about the X5 I am and now my wife is very happy with it.

I would be very careful basing safety statements purely on the size of the H2. The X5 has side airbags and the closest to an automobil suspension and still be able to go offroad a little. I have no concerns with my wife driving the car.
We did have some problems with some parts but I have problems with the H2 as well, so all is good http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Albie]

The oddest thing about switching from H2 to an X5 is the power steering or lack of. I notice this after driving the H2 to Church then jumping right into my X5. it was soo hard to crank the wheel to make a U Turn. And Yes Hinten I have had tons of problems with my X5
..trunk not opening, bad oil change, 2 window motors going out, back door not locking. ok I'm done

[MAC]

The title of this topic is misleading, I failed to find the evil part anywhere, but clearly Hummer has the toughest butt in the world.

I have no doubt X5 is a safe auto for the occupants, I certainly would love to have more bags in H2, X5 was rated pretty high in safety too. But the starting story in this topic made it clear than Hummer has a tough butt, as proven in my own Hummer butt to butt accident. If that X5 ran into any other sedan on the road, the X5 would've much less damage and no doubt inflicting heavy damage to the auto and the occupants in front, if not jumping on top of the car in front. In the case of hitting a van or SUV, the damages could be similar to both parties.

If the Hummer is hit from the back by a car, any car, that car will be snagged under the Hummer bumper. "Honey, did you feel something?"
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[This message was edited by MAC on 06-23-03 at 04:27 PM.]

[argonaut]

I love the steering on the X5, it feels like my M5. Maybe I'm just too into the BMW feel. Nothing else like it. But I chose the H2 over the X5, or the cayenne for that matter. Never regretted it.

'03 H2 Sunset Orange No mods
'03 BMW M3 Convertible
'02 BMW M5

[DocH2]

All kidding aside. I hope you are ok. Lack of crush to a vehicle does not denote damage to occupants. Consider what happens to a brain with shaken baby syndrome with no damage to the cranium?

The acceleration of the head/neck relative to the torso is what potentially causes injury. Dale Seniors car wasn't damaged all that much now was it.

[hinten]

I change from the H2 to the X5 (3.0 l) and I feel like Andretti. I have one of the few manual X5s and it feels like a Formula One car.

"Look Ma, 90mph up the mountain and still some to go!"

I really like both cars, can't imagine what the 4.6 engine in the X5 feels like.

[Albie]

no way hinten, you have a stick. Thats freaken cool, I sometimes move the stick over and do the manual shift. Not as fun as the real stick.

[KenP]

I have a cousin w/an X5. I must say that when he saw my H2 he was very interested. He loved the interior, specs, etc. I did not let him drive, though. No need to make things worse for him. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Black Lingenfelter Lux

[Tucson Beast]

Sorry but I do not know vehicles like you guys ..... What is an X5 :confused http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

"It's what you learn, after you know it all, that counts - John Wooden

[Albie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tucson Beast:
Sorry but I do not know vehicles like you guys ..... What is an X5 :confused http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

"It's what you learn, after you know it all, that counts - John Wooden<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Zona, its a BMW

[MAC]

X5 is a SUV made by the joint venture of the famous European auto manufacturer YUGO and the world class Korean manufacturer Kia in South Carolina but marketed under the BMW brand. Exceptional truck. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[hinten]

MAC,
it's fun until you poke somebody's eye out.
I've had a good number of problems with the X5 but, BUT don't get me started on comparing the interiors... But you know, if you're into the rugged look.

The other advantage the X5 has is that I never, never get yelled at, get the finger, people cutting me off, etc. At this point, I don't let my wife drive the H2 anymore because of the crap people will pull when they see the H2.

[MAC]

Hinten, Today, I had 14 kids in my pool, plus parents and 3 X5s in my driveway among others, 2 silver 1 green, guests just left close to midnight; hence you understand why I am so polite to say that X5 is "nice", and why I don't want X5, the same reason you and everyone else has/want a Hummer, it is unique and it stands above the crowd. Honestly there are more X5s around here than Hondas.

Regretablly you are so busy looking for your eyeball, http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif you can't seems to remember what I said many times, or maybe you just like to hear it again, I just have to copy what I said on the first page of this post:
"I said X5 is nice, what else do you want? My sister-in-law has one, I don't, I can't go any further than "Nice". Frankly I don't even know if it is nice or not, I was just being nice. I can be nicer by saying X5 is nicer, or I can be great by saying X5 is great. I said them all, just pick the one you like."

[Z06_to_H2]

BMW makes at great product. My 3 series is the best overall car I have ever owned and driven for the $$$ (and I have driven many great cars). I liked my 3 better then my Z06 vette which was great car. I love my H2, but the X5 4.6 is a beast and a cool ride. I really do like all kinds of cars, however the H2 and X5 should not be compared since they are not the same type of SUV and where never intended to be by either company. Just my 2 cents.

03 H2 Black W/Lux Pck
Tint, V1, Chrome rims and rear letters on the way!

01 BMW 325i w/sport package
30% tint

*SOLD* 7/14/03
02 Z06 TR
Plate- Z06 4 SPD

[Albie]

chalk another one up for me. Thats right another thing has gone wrong on my X5. This time the left side brake light is out. Glad the on board computer told me.

[MAC]

We have a big party at home tonight, my cars are blocked in, so I took a X5 parked upfront to pick up my son down the hills. First time driving a X5.

1- HID headlights look super bright from outside, but from driver's seat, the light is slightly better than the BestBuy Xenon bulbs in my Hummer, sharp edge but my $30 bulbs are close to it in brightness.

2- Handling is good and tight but not as magical as I remembered BMWs to be. Of course different than Hummer, but I can't say it is better than Hummer.

3- Love that German door closing sound. I read Lexus spent tens of millions trying to copy that German door closing sound, based on the Lexus I have driven, I don't think they got it.

4- The whole X5 feels tight and solid with no rattle. My Hummer is tight and solid and no rattle, but BMW X5 just feels more obvious.

5- I always love the BMW orange dash light and it has been years since I owned a BMW, surprised the orange dash light is not as magical as I remembered it, sort of no big deal.

6- In this area, X5s are everywhere, easily see 5 or 6 X5s on any supermarket or school run, Hummer is not that rare but still comes out winning on the visual front; i.e., when you see a X5, you don't move a muscle, but everyone notices a Hummer, the fun factor is way higher on the Hummer.

Just my 2 cents on the X5 drive tonight.