H2 Magazine Reviews!!

[SUVGuy]

This is a quote from Car and Driver magazine: "I loved it [the H2] in photos. Then I saw a real one in the, uh, well, "flesh" is not the right word. I saw it in the plastic. Those cake-pan bumps on the hood? Plastic. You can pop 'em off with your fingers. Those black extenders on the ends of the front bumper? Tupperware tuff for those brutal commutes! Inside, the window sills are high. You look at the world through slits. For the first time ever, you see door-sealing rubber being used as a styling element. The message is "functional," get it? Ten man-size socketheads make a big show of securing wispy plastic cladding to the dash."

A quote from Motor Trend Magazine: "The H2 is big, weighty, expensive, and thirsty. (And it needed a shift into low range to finish a hill climb the Volvo's high-tech AWD scrambled up without drama.)"

-Imagine off-roading in your H2 and getting stuck going up a hill and then passed by a soccer mom in a Volvo X90. How embarrassing!

[SUVGuy]

This is a quote from Car and Driver magazine: "I loved it [the H2] in photos. Then I saw a real one in the, uh, well, "flesh" is not the right word. I saw it in the plastic. Those cake-pan bumps on the hood? Plastic. You can pop 'em off with your fingers. Those black extenders on the ends of the front bumper? Tupperware tuff for those brutal commutes! Inside, the window sills are high. You look at the world through slits. For the first time ever, you see door-sealing rubber being used as a styling element. The message is "functional," get it? Ten man-size socketheads make a big show of securing wispy plastic cladding to the dash."

A quote from Motor Trend Magazine: "The H2 is big, weighty, expensive, and thirsty. (And it needed a shift into low range to finish a hill climb the Volvo's high-tech AWD scrambled up without drama.)"

-Imagine off-roading in your H2 and getting stuck going up a hill and then passed by a soccer mom in a Volvo X90. How embarrassing!

[ShaggyX]

Now thats some funny stuff.

[Spike]

Get the flame throwers ready...I smell "troll"!!

S&B Member

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SUVGuy:
-Imagine off-roading in your H2 and getting stuck going up a hill and then passed by a soccer mom in a Volvo X90. How embarrassing!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok.... I'm trying to imagine that happening, but all I can come up with is a horrible prison shower rape scene involving SUVGuy.

I'd like to find some dolt that owns one of those Volvos that would be willing to play follow the leader with me. That soccer mom car wouldn't make it 400 yards.

S&B Member since '03

[Buckeye Hummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SUVGuy:
-Imagine off-roading in your H2 and getting stuck going up a hill and then passed by a soccer mom in a Volvo X90. How embarrassing!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A good friend of mine just turned her Volvo in because part of the drivetrain fell to the ground while driving on the freeway. 3K in damage and 5,000 miles outside of warranty. They wouldn't fix it.


I can't imagine getting stuck on a hill in my Hummer. It's never happened. Your VW beetle, however, would be fun to roll over you dope smoking turd.

[Hummer__Viper]

Of course this guy is a troll. In his first post he is trying to down-grade the H2. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gifSad very sad.

98 GTS VIPER
03 H2 HUMMER

[KenP]

I would rather someone else post this, but I thought I would get it on now. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Black Lingenfelter Lux

[Buckeye Hummer]

A Volvo would just run it's headlights in to this one http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif But of course it wouldn't have made it past the entrance anyway after it left its drivetrain on the pavement.

[Steve R]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SUVGuy:
-Imagine off-roading in your H2 and getting stuck going up a hill and then passed by a soccer mom in a Volvo X90.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good point....but since you are "imagining"...why not go a step further and imagine a couple hottie super-models getting out and pushing the H2 up the hill while attending to your other service needs.

Of course, in your case...you'd probably "imagine" a few hunky guys.

I can assure you the one thing you don't have to imagine is what it will be like to get torched on a website...run troll, run!!!

[Spike]

I can't help but wonder what type of vehicle this loser "SUVFag" drives. I'm guessing like a piece of **** 1989 Ford Bronco II. Probably all rusted out and on its last leg. And since his Burger King salary will not cover the nut on an H2, this loser resorts to trashing them to convince himself not to buy a vehicle that he could not possibly afford anyway. Besides it's not a good idea to own a vehicle that cost 4 times as much as the trailer you live in. Now get back to work, cars are starting to back up in the drive in!

S&B Member

[SJ]

SUVGuy:

What's a Volvo X90? You mean XC90: the AWD contraption that Volvo sells as a taller likeness of the XC70 wagon?

Yeah, I was thinking about getting one of those and wheeling it at our local bog. What do you think buddy - can I fit a set of 28" swampers on that bad boy; maybe some Edelbrock Headers and that Swedish 5-banger will have all the locals calling me "boss." Maybe I'll upgrade to the 6-cylinder model if I feel like a wildman!

You know the H2 doesn't have any wood grain either - and I don't know if your tea party friends will approve of that.

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'03 H2 [Sold]
'03 Chevrolet Silverado Z71, 6" Rancho Lift, Rear Factory Locker, 35" ProComp MTs

[SJ]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spike:
I can't help but wonder what type of vehicle this loser "SUVFag" drives. I'm guessing like a piece of **** 1989 Ford Bronco II. ....
S&B Member<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Aw, come on Spike - the Bronco II is classic - LOL. My friend had one in high school and we used to beat the heck out of that poor thing. I think it rolled on 26" highway tires to boot. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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'03 H2 [Sold]
'03 Chevrolet Silverado Z71, 6" Rancho Lift, Rear Factory Locker, 35" ProComp MTs

[Steve R]

Look at SJ shred...you go boy!!!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[DennisAJC]

SUVguy + Louisville Slugger + Vaseline...

Let's watch the puppet show mommy!

" S & B Member Since 2003 "

[PARAGON]

Guys, guys, guys. He's quoting from car magazines who measure a car's cornering ability, not wheeling ability.

It's like the Amish reviewing an 18volt Dewalt HammerDrill.

[Klaus]

Isn't Volvo owned by FORD now? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Klaus

Rare 2003 H2 with UM8 Integrated Navigation Radio http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
Skull & Bones Member since 2003

[Spike]

What happened to SUVQueer? Was this a hit and run post? He probably doesn't have the balls to come back on. Or maybe he does have the balls...there just lying across the bridge of his nose right now. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S&B Member

[SJ]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Klaus:
Isn't Volvo owned by FORD now? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Klaus

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, and Saab is a brand of General Motors.

Speaking of Ford: Toyota just surpassed Ford to take the #2 spot in the world for automotive sales. That's a bunch of sh*t, since we aren't really given a fair shake in their market! That combined with all the Californians that think Toyota is American because they're assembled/pieced together here [and in Kentucky]. Either that or they just don't give a flying ____!

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'03 H2 [Sold]
'03 Chevrolet Silverado Z71, 6" Rancho Lift, Rear Factory Locker, 35" ProComp MTs

[frank6150]

Hell I got in a 10 minute conversation/arguement today with a gas station attendent moron who says the H2 is german and would hear no other answer.

And don't bash the Bronco 2! That was my first vehicle and I loved the little piece of ****!

S&B Member since '03

[Spike]

Frank said,
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> And don't bash the Bronco 2! That was my first vehicle and I loved the little piece of ****! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Frank, you crack me up http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Whats this world coming to...you can't even break a trolls balls without offending people on this forum http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

S&B Member

[PARAGON]

Frank, The only thing that rolled over more often than a CJ5 was a Bronco II. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[argonaut]

Troll scale: 4. No original content, and only one post... Pathetic. On the other hand, it has been quite some time without a Troll posting. It was starting to get mighty dull around here. We need another moojiber or andkon. Those guys had follow through.

[TJ]

Please don't make fun of Volvo you guys. I am of Swedish desecent (and yes, my grandfather was a Swedish master carpenter, some of his work can be found in the 'movie star' homes up in the Hollywood Hills and Beverly Hills) and the Volvo is a Swedish vehicle...and for the uninformed, it's pronounce "vaul'-voh", not "vole-vo".

[argonaut]

I had to drive a crappy ass old volvo station wagon as my first car. I have it on authority that Volvos suck. It weighed almost as much as mu Hummer, yet had a 110 HP engine... What a POS. Nothing against the swedish, I like Saabs.

[MAC]

This is a fake. I subscribed to 5-6 auto magazines for many years, I read thousands or more articles, automobile magazines don't talk about automobiles like that.

[Steve R]

OMG, the day has finally come: I agree with MAC, it's a fake. Motor Trend finds everything either good, great or amazing...

[DennisAJC]

No, mabye it's not fake. I do remember reading something similar in Hustler.

" S & B Member Since 2003 "

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>quotes from Motor Trend:
The all-new H2 is unmistakably Hummer, faithful in nearly every detail...

Built to a tough-as-nails 8600-lb GVW standard and with more interior and cargo room than the traditional Hummer H1, the H2 is short where it needs to be for outstanding off-roadability--in front and rear overhangs. The H2 is the Manx cat of SUVs, thanks to wheels pushed to the far corners of the robust body. It'll climb up and over obstacles 16 inches tall without snagging bumpers or tow hitch receivers and in low range/low gear (with a 33:1 crawl rate) continue on up a 60-percent grade without breaking a sweat. All 3.2 tons of it.

Hummers are all about going where others dare not go. Here, the H2 has its own bag of techno-tricks, including a two-speed, shift-on-the-fly transfer case, locking center differential, locking rear differential, dual-mode traction control, and anti-lock brakes with automatic brake differential. Via a dash-mounted switch, the H2 driver can select High Open, High Locked (center diff locked), Low Locked (center diff locked), or Neutral (when being towed). An Eaton locking rear differential can be engaged in low range for dealing with severe obstacles and works in forward and reverse. Another dash switch lets the driver adjust the traction-control system for on-road, high-friction surfaces or off-road, low-friction conditions, allowing a bit more wheelspin and being less intrusive on engine power under the latter setting. Finally, the automatic brake differential function of the ABS helps keep the H2 moving by braking a spinning wheel or wheels and feeding drive torque to the tire's contact patch with the most grip.

the H2 may prove to be the irresistible object between a rock and hard place.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Car and Driver:

The H2 may not be able to climb a three-foot wall, traverse a 40-percent slope, or straddle a 16-inch boulder, as the H1 can. But it is clearly equipped to be the most capable GM-designed off-roader on the market. It has the strike-force styling of the now-legendary AM General Humvee and its civilian clone the Hummer, though it’s much more refined

Meanwhile, our Mexican mileage has created deep respect, fondness, and admiration for the H2. It is golly-gee easy and reassuring to drive, but it is not a Hummer poseur. It handles serious off-road chores with ho-hum ease, leaving its occupants marveling at the comfort in which they can travel through rough country. For most folks, that will make it the perfect Hummer

The H2, on the other hand, is everything the H1 isn't: comfortable, spacious, and fun to drive on-road and off-. Two days of off-roading and rock crawling outside Moab, Utah, convinced us the H2 can overcome obstacles almost as well as the H1 can (we know because we had an H1 chase vehicle) but in a much more civilized manner and for half the price. GM has done a great job of capturing the look and off-road prowess of the H1 and making the H2 a practical vehicle<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[SUVGuy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MAC:
This is a fake. I subscribed to 5-6 auto magazines for many years, I read thousands or more articles, automobile magazines don't talk about automobiles like that.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Car and Driver April 2003 page 24

Motor Trend March 2003 page 14


Look them up.

[DennisAJC]

He's just trying to waste your time.

" S & B Member Since 2003 "

[SJ]

SUVGuy:

Pack your Kia Sportage and haul a** out of here boy - nobody gives a flying f*** what your candy-ass thinks. I say it on the Internet just as I would in public - that's my policy and I'm not making any exceptions for you.

This troll is more like a 2 - copy & paste with no skills whatsoever.

Pokeman is on TV, so scram junior - your about to miss your favorite episode and mama will beat you silly for abusing your computer privelages for the 3rd time this week.

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'03 H2 [Sold]
'03 Chevrolet Silverado Z71, 6" Rancho Lift, Rear Factory Locker, 35" ProComp MTs

[argonaut]

wow, I just did a search on the website for car and driver, and there was not a single mention of the Hummer H2 in April 2003... You sir, are a ****ty liar.

[SUVGuy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by argonaut:
wow, I just did a search on the website for car and driver, and there was not a single mention of the Hummer H2 in April 2003... You sir, are a ****ty liar.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I've got the issues here in front of me. They are actual quotes from actual magazine editors. If you have the issues look them up. You will see that I am right and quoted them word for word.

[SUVGuy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jnsfox:
What's amazing is that you really expect us to say "whoa, he's got the articles in front of him, damn I should apologize now" . Get a grip, there is no mention from either magazines' web sites of these quotes or articles in those time ranges.

Seth

http://h2southtexas.com/temp/h2source.jpg (http://www.h2southtexas.com/)

"S&B Member Since 2003"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



There is alot of stuff in the printed magazine that doesn't make it to the web.

[DennisAJC]

I think your Mommy and her Brother/Husband(Your father and uncle in one) beat your bucked tooth three cheeked ass one too many times.

Next time instead of gobbling up your family dog`s cock n balls and playin sperm fountain, mabye read a book and educate yerself.

Fine example of why you should not drop out of grade 2.

" S & B Member Since 2003 "

[SUVGuy]

I'm guessing that since all the insults have dried up that you all found the articles that I quoted.

[Bevo]

SUVGuy,
Your full of it. I'm looking at page 24 right now... nice curves, well proportioned headlights, and likes late night off-road excursions! Oops, wrong magazine http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SUVGuy:
I'm guessing that since all the insults have dried up that you all found the articles that I quoted.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, it's more likely that you're a ****ty troll. Go practice some and come back when you feel like you can really rile us up. Puss.

S&B Member since '03

[SUVGuy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SUVGuy:
I'm guessing that since all the insults have dried up that you all found the articles that I quoted.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, it's more likely that you're a ****ty troll. Go practice some and come back when you feel like you can really rile us up. Puss.

S&B Member since '03<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh really? I got over 40 posts from some really pissed off people for mearly quoting a couple of magazines.

[Spike]

You mean lying about quotes in magazines right dickhead?

S&B Member

[devilsfan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Oh really? I got over 40 posts from some really pissed off people for mearly quoting a couple of magazines.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, you're getting flamed for posting something that you STILL won't offer proof of and no one else can find. Scan the articles and post them. If I see them in print, I'd be more likely to believe you.

Stacy

2003 yellow Lux with sunroof, 3rd row seat,painted dash, rear tire carrier
1970 VW Karmann Ghia, black with a flame job and too many mods to list

[SJ]

SUVGuy:

What do you roll? Probably a Lexus RX 'cause it fits 5 of your greenpeace Birkenstock wearing soy latte sipping buddies with a combined weight of 250. I live in the Bay Area and judging by your comments, you might be one of the many Birkenstock turds that lives in nearby San Francisco or Berkeley - so you want to wheel, then put up a**hole. Otherwise, you can kiss my whiskey drinking, Bull Riding, American Truck driving a**. Take your Motor Trend to Tokyo while you're at it - I'm the wrong guy to care about your tea room reading material.

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'03 H2 [Sold]
'03 Chevrolet Silverado Z71, 6" Rancho Lift, Rear Factory Locker, 35" ProComp MTs

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SUVGuy:
Oh really? I got over 40 posts from some really pissed off people for mearly quoting a couple of magazines.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You got ****. No one has given you posts. We have just called you out to back up the lame editorial you provided under the guise of quotes from CAR magazines.

[ShaggyX]

40 posts??? I am not impressed. You obviously didnt see the 7 Pages worth of pissed off people that I instigated a week or 2 ago (stopsuvs thread). Your puny 3 pages is nothing. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[BlueTJCO]

Not too piss anyone off, but both Shaggy's thread and SUVGUY's thread make you all sound like a bunch of highschool kids sitting around the Varsity locker room. Too much mouth and testosterone for what it's worth...JMO!

[ShaggyX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mooncricket:
Not too piss anyone off<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Famous last words.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mooncricket:
Not too piss anyone off, but both Shaggy's thread and SUVGUY's thread make you all sound like a bunch of highschool kids sitting around the Varsity locker room. Too much mouth and testosterone for what it's worth...JMO!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Better than a bunch of elementary kids on a Jeep forum.

I could say something about the too much mouth and testosterone but there are Ladies in the locker room.

[BlueTJCO]

PARAGON, thanks for being a perfect example. I'm not here to diss the H2, I wheel with them quite a bit and I love the vehicle. I think there bad ass....But let's not make it a Jeep/Hummer thing because If there is one thing I can tell you, there are plenty of obstacles a Hummer can make that a Jeep can't, and the same can be said for the Jeep...Alec and Adam have taken obstacles I couldn't make, and I've taken some they couldn't make....so shut up and put that to rest....and as for the JeepForum comment. I can honestly tell you that I don't see this much bull sh.. jibber jabber on Jeepsunlimited.com ever.....it's just people helping other jeepers out....and when a Jeep troll as yourself comes along, we just ignore them......

[ShaggyX]

I like where this is going. This could turn out to be a fun day after all. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mooncricket:
PARAGON, thanks for being a perfect example. I'm not here to diss the H2, I wheel with them quite a bit and I love the vehicle. I think there bad ass....But let's not make it a Jeep/Hummer thing because If there is one thing I can tell you, there are plenty of obstacles a Hummer can make that a Jeep can't, and the same can be said for the Jeep...Alec and Adam have taken obstacles I couldn't make, and I've taken some they couldn't make....so shut up and put that to rest....and as for the JeepForum comment. I can honestly tell you that I don't see this much bull sh.. jibber jabber on Jeepsunlimited.com ever.....it's just people helping other jeepers out....and when a Jeep troll as yourself comes along, we just ignore them......<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah, ignorance is bliss.

Look kid, you're say that you are "not here to dis the H2" but you ARE here insulting the owners. I have owned both a Hummer and Jeeps, which I doubt many, if any, Jeep owners can say and can tell you that it's the jeepers that are mouthing off. The only negative that comes from this forum about Jeeps is in response to imbeciles like you with your prerequisite apology.

It's obvious you want to "bull sh.. jibber jabber" or you wouldn't have posted in a thread that purposely written to generate the response it has. Tell the guy that's holding the gun to your head and making you read this, that you would rather converse with the anti-Hummer Jeepers on jeepsunlimited.com.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ShaggyZr2:
I like where this is going. This could turn out to be a fun day after all. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Sorry, Shaggy I'll be off to my land for the weekend pretty soon, so I won't be able to lower myself too much longer.

[BlueTJCO]

PARAGON, your such a whinny fruit! I come to this site for 2 reasons. I wheel with a couple people from it, and I like H2's.....I don't give a **** what you own, and my prerequisite apology was so that ****os like you wouldn't cry about what I had to say. Read it again baby boy. All I said is that 2 OF THE THREADS make you guys sound liek a bunch of Jack Asses. You cant honestly step away from what your writing and read that?????????

And every time I see a thread about anti H2 **** on Jeepsunlimited, I back you guys up to the fullest. Not only do I not have a problem with anyone on this board, I HAVE TAKEN TIME OFF OF WORK TO HELP people on this board recover there rigs. I'm done with your sorry ass...I guess I'll have to join Alec and Adam in Moab to meet you. You have a big mouth and I'd like to see where that is coming from...

Second,

[BlueTJCO]

for the record PARAGON, your the only H2 owner I've EVER insulted

[ShaggyX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mooncricket:
for the record PARAGON, your the only H2 owner I've EVER insulted<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I dont know if I believe that Ryan. I am sure you have called Alec and Adam dumbasses before. They probably deserved it, but it is still an insult towards an H2 owner. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[BlueTJCO]

if I called them DumbAsses it was to their face. And actually Shags, I really enjoy Adam and Alec's company. Not only do they cook up some great grub while camping, they aren't uptight, and they truely just love to wheel. It doesn't seem to be any type of competition to them, and that I enjoy...

[BlueTJCO]

thanks Seth, thats what I intend to do.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by paragon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mooncricket:
Not too piss anyone off, but both Shaggy's thread and SUVGUY's thread make you all sound like a bunch of highschool kids sitting around the Varsity locker room. Too much mouth and testosterone for what it's worth...JMO!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Better than a bunch of elementary kids on a Jeep forum.

I could say something about the too much mouth and testosterone but there are Ladies in the locker room.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Shaggy, I take it this friend of yours owns a Jeep. After playing with him I had to go back and read to figure out why he got so bent out of shape at the 2 lines I wrote, neither even directed at him. He must of read way too much into the "elementary kids on a Jeep forum" like I knew he owned a Jeep and was from a jeep forum.

Funny, funny stuff.

[ShaggyX]

Paragon...I am kind of scared to admit that he is a friend right now. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. Yeah...he owns a wrangler, but in his defense I have seen him defend H2's on the jeepsunlimited site before (the Tie-rod incident).

I really dont think he meant any harm by what he said...he just doesnt understand flaming people is just part of the everyday life of the people on this forum. Its what you guys do best.

[PARAGON]

I defend Jeeps just as well, I've owned them and might buy the Rescue if they make it. I just don't defend ZR2's http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Anyway, mine was not a flaming as I am just not as good at it as others on the board

[HUMMERDOGG]

Mooncricket-

I applaud you for taking care of AlecW in his time of need. Please take into consideration the amount of pleasure that alot of the people on this forum take in destroying trolls. If the guy had something legitimate to say, that would be one thing however, when he posts fictional qoutes from magazines that he then can't link us to or post scans of then he gets treated like he should...

suvguy-

I'm sure alot of the guys on this forum would welcome you to the Moab trip in March... Please bring your volvo and show us how wonderful an offroad machine it is...

-HUMMERDOGG

"Skull and Bones" Member Since 2003

TROLL POACHER (I hunt trolls even if it ain't troll hunting season...)

TROLL TAXIDERMIST (For those of you who get to them before I can. I provide this service free of charge...)

[SUVGuy]

OK fine. I'll post scans of the articles tomorrow. Keep an eye out for them.

[Spike]

Yeah, We'll hold our breath.

S&B Member

[SUVGuy]

Here is the Car and Driver Quote.

[ShaggyX]

Where??? I dont see anything.

[SUVGuy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ShaggyZr2:
Where??? I dont see anything.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry it wouldn't take a pdf. I'll attach it as a jpg.

[ShaggyX]

Your proof is every bit as convincing as I was expecting. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[SUVGuy]

OK, hopefully this one works. Here is the Car and Driver Quote.

[SUVGuy]

Here is the Motor Trend Quote.

[argonaut]

Those aren't reviews buddy, those are just slanted editorials. If you read either magazine's reviews of the H2, they are absolutely glowing. Motor Trend even took one from Alaska to key west and wrote a long journal about it. Their opionion? The H2 rocked! So you can show whatever you want from the reader's letters section, and the pinko car as costume editorial, but the fact remains that both magazines loved the H2 in their reviews.

[SUVGuy]

I never made any assertions from the quotes. I just posted them as quotes. I thought it was funny that the H2 couldn't finish the hill climb without low range that the Volvo had no problems with. And I agreed with what the Car and Driver editor said. Even out of context they still say the same thing.

I'm not envious of your H2s one bit. I make enough money to buy 2 H2's. I just think they are a poor choice as an off road vehicle. Why would anyone spend so much on an off road vehicle when they could build one up for half the price that would be superior (and one they could actually see out of)? And they also wouldn't feel so bad about beating the hell out of it.

[Spike]

Well boys there it is. SUVGay really put us in our place with that article. I know you guys care like I do what that ******* Patrick Bedard has to say. In fact I will be putting my H2 up for sale immediately. Cake pans included! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Just looking at that guy makes my skin crawl. I can just see him lying there face down with his head burried in a pillow while his boyfriends take turns reenacting the maximun security prison rapefest on him. Then after a brief packing of the ass with tampons to control the bleeding its off to work in his Hugo to write his worthless opinions about the H2.

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[This message was edited by Spike on 02-02-04 at 11:14 AM.]

[SUVGuy]

"The H2 is a great all round performer, sure you can find plenty of vehicles that can do what the H2 can off road, you can find plenty of vehicles that make better highway cruisers, and minvans are better for carting a big family around in, but show me one of them which does it all?"

My point exactly. You could buy 2 vehicles that do everything you mentioned much better, for the same price as one H2. Its like buying one pair of shoes that does everything from running to mountain climbing. You end up with a pair of shoes that does most things "ok" and nothing really well.

I don't care what you guys waste your money on. And I don't get enjoyment out of making people suffer. I just wanted to point out that you fell victim of a marketing play and chose an absurd vehicle.

[DRTYFN]

Ok, Mr. Enlightened, what do you drive? Be honest.

S&B Member since '03

[SUVGuy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PhilD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SUVGuy:
I never made any assertions from the quotes.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Really? What was this then?

"-Imagine off-roading in your H2 and getting stuck going up a hill and then passed by a soccer mom in a Volvo X90. How embarrassing!"

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was merely a hypothetical scenario. An assertion would be if I said that Car and Driver and Motor Trend both hated the H2.

[SJ]

SUVGuy:

Until you answer DRTYFN's question, then shut the F up! You don't say where you're from and you don't say what you drive - nobody trusts your shady punk-ass. You're a parasite, otherwise you'd introduce yourself proper.

You drive a Jap SUV don't you? Prove me wrong and tell us you drive a Ford F-150 and you're really a good ol' boy. Yeah right! You walk, talk, and sound like a sell-out.

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'03 H2 [Sold]
'03 Chevrolet Silverado Z71, 6" Rancho Lift, Rear Factory Locker, 35" ProComp MTs

[argonaut]

Personally I think modding an offroad vehicle is silly, so for me going the stock route was the way to go. Yeah you could buy two POS trucks and build them up, but then you would look like a white trash redneck with no life. Why not just buy the best than can handle just about anything stock. If you have never offroaded one, or been offroading with one that has a competent driver, then you need to STFU. I get crap from my Jeeper Taco buddies all the time who tell me this very thing. Then they offroad with me and are very very impressed. So go back to your foreign vehicle (yes Jeeps are German now...) and **** off you pathetic troll.

[ShaggyX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by argonaut:
Yeah you could buy two POS trucks and build them up, but then you would look like a white trash redneck with no life.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>So are you saying that since I drive/wheel in a POS truck that I am a white trash redneck with no life?

[Gromet]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I don't care what you guys waste your money on. And I don't get enjoyment out of making people suffer. I just wanted to point out that you fell victim of a marketing play and chose an absurd vehicle.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was just wondering, is a person who drives a Lamborghini driving an "absurd" vehicle? People buy exotics like this all the time and people don't give them a hard time. I actually owned an 89 countach 25th Anniversary and no one ever said things like this about that car. It got worse gas milage than my Hummer, could barley make it up the apron of my driveway without bottoming out, and if the ground got slick in the least, better get off the road, or not drive over 35mph if you wanted to keep the ass end on the pavement.

I had a Jeep wrangler, with every known Lift, hop up, extra, winch, etc... Don't get me wrong, I loved my wrangler, and I beat the hell out of it, and it got me through some really tight off-road situations. I have only had the hummer for a little over a week, but my buddy has one also, and let me tell you, this is one amazing truck. The size and weight, I was afraid would actually hinder the fun you can have with it. This truck is designed so well it is rediculous. I have never had more fun or a bigger smile on my face while driving as I have sinse I got my Hummer. There is no stock Jeep that is going to touch what a stock hummer can do, you want to start throwing money into hop-ups, let me do the same, you will never touch me.

So why when you go and buy a small exotic that makes NO Sense whatsoever, does everyone want you to come down to shows and let everyone gawk at it or take a ride in it. But go out and buy a BIG new truck that is the hottest thing on the road. A truck that even those in their little, low, 1" from the ground exotics look up at in envy as you drive past them, and everyone gives you ****.

You people kill me. I still haven't figured out if it is jealousy or just plain ignorance.

Either way this forum alone speaks so loud it's not even funny. With all of the problems that people on this board have had, big and small, How many people have said they hate their hummer, or they are getting rid of it for some other 4x4 because the hummer was ****. Exactly. So until you are a fellow owner, or at least have the slightest bit of knowledge on the subject you are about to stick your nose into. Before you go and read someone elses opinion and decide that they must be right and decide to comment on it like it was your own opinion. Do us all a big favor...

Just SHUT THE !@$% up and don't!

2003 Black - Adv/Lux Package

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ShaggyZr2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by argonaut:
Yeah you could buy two POS trucks and build them up, but then you would look like a white trash redneck with no life.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>So are you saying that since I drive/wheel in a POS truck that I am a white trash redneck with no life?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not so much a redneck, but more of a loudmouthed excuse-making pussy.

S&B Member since '03

[ShaggyX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DRTYFN:
Not so much a redneck, but more of a loudmouthed excuse-making pussy.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I resemble that remark. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Buckeye Hummer]

This is really funny!

suvguy,

One day you may be financially strong enough to afford a Hummer at which time your views will change, until then you will be bound by ingorance. You are young, you don't understand or comprehend and frankly, I don't expect you to but I appreciate the entertainment value of your thread. What's next?

[KenP]

Actually, MT loved the H2 so much they drove it from the Arctic Circle above Alaska to Key West.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suv/112_0208_h2/

Be sure to read the entire article.

The MT article you referenced seemed to be refering to the everyday driver of SUV's: the soccer mom. I would love to read the entire article. Just post a link please.

Black Lingenfelter Lux

[SUVGuy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The MT article you referenced seemed to be refering to the everyday driver of SUV's: the soccer mom. I would love to read the entire article. Just post a link please. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Weren't you paying attention? There are no links to the articles I was referncing. They were only in the magazines and not posted to their websites. Go back and review the scans I posted.

[H2_SUT_SC]

The only thing I found on the net with those quotes was his own when he did a "review" of the H2.

http://www.carreview.com/SUV/Hummer,H2/PRD_142944_1524crx.aspx

[SUVGuy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by H2_SUT_SC:
The only thing I found on the net with those quotes was his own when he did a "review" of the H2.

http://www.carreview.com/SUV/Hummer,H2/PRD_142944_1524crx.aspx <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why are you guys still trying to find the quotes on the web. I already told you that they are not posted to their websites. I scanned the articles in for you all to read. If you have the issues you can read them for yourself.

I didn't write that review, but I do agree with it wholeheatedly. It inspired me to post here.

[Klaus]

SUVGuy is proof that using the welfare system to deny Darwin his rewards is allowing too many nuts to survive in this country.

[devilsfan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SUVGuy:
I didn't write that review, but I do agree with it wholeheatedly. It inspired me to post here. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Give it up already. No one here cares what your opinion is.

Stacy

[DRTYFN]

I just read the first 10 reviews and I have to say that I now feel like we should close the borders and start mandatory sterilization of everyone with IQ's under 100. That's the most pathetic collection of idiocy that I've ever seen. Even the supporters(hopefully non-owners) are dumb as a box of hammers.

SUVGuy, I've noticed that you've conveniently left off a signature line telling us all what you drive. Could that be because walking in Birkenstocks isn't considered driving?

[SUVGuy]

Hello?

[Dan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SUVGuy:
Hello? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/rgold770/_images/dork.gif

[Klaus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SUVGuy:
This is a quote from Car and Driver magazine <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Brock Yates

The era of pea-pod cars may be over.
By Brock Yates
Car and Driver July 2004



For those of you having the fortitude (or poor judgment) to continue reading this blather more than once, you may recall that several months ago I admitted to the purchase of a Hummer H2, perhaps the most politically incorrect motor vehicle to ply American highways since Al Capone’s armored Cadillac. Of course, I expected my friends in the granola crowd to sneer openly, claiming I was defiling the environment while lining the pockets of the very same mullahs who are trying to blow us into small bits. My feeble defense is based on the need of a vehicle that will plow through upstate New York winters and haul my Eliminator hot rods and two dogs that are roughly the size of Shetland ponies. This cuts me no slack with the Kerryites and the Nader raiders, all of whom consider any passenger car larger than a Toyota Echo akin to a Euclid earthmover.

But having driven the great whale around for the past couple of months, I am staggered at the general response, leaving me to puzzle over exactly how Americans are involved in the so-called automotive culture of the nation.

The question was first posed on a stretch of interstate as my wife, Pamela, and I were trundling along in the right lane at a steady 75 mph (a velocity, by the way, at which the H2 is amazingly silent, stable, and comfortable—provided one ignores the gallon of regular being swallowed every 12 miles).

On my left I spotted a ragged Chevrolet station wagon that drew alongside. A girl in her 20s in the passenger seat was frantically scribbling on a hunk of cardboard with her lipstick. She held up a sign that read, “You’re hot!” I had to presume she was referring to the H2 and not to me, as I’m old enough to be her great-uncle.

Several days later, while heading east on Interstate 90, another car cruised beside me as the driver leaned to his right and tossed me a thumbs up. This did not surprise me, as I had seen the same signals from other drivers.

But the source of my amazement centered on the car he was driving—a Honda Insight! This is, with the Toyota Prius, the most politically correct automobile on the planet. Making sure his gesture did not involve a middle finger, which it did not, I was left to ruminate why, in the name of OPEC, anyone wheeling a tiny gas-sipping, primo-P.C. hybrid like an Insight would give me the thumbs up. A frustrated Kenworth driver? A drugged-up whacko who thought he’d spotted a rapper’s Slade?

To this day I remain baffled by the gesture, except to note that the H2 has been the source of more reaction than any other vehicle I’ve driven since the insane Lamborghini LM002 (“The Rambo Lambo,” C/D, October 1987) terrorized the roads. Most of it has been favorable, save for an encounter with a middle-aged suburbanite leaving a Rochester supermarket with his small son. As the little boy walked behind the H2, he asked, “Daddy, what’s that?”

Heading for a Subaru wagon nearby, the father sneered, “It’s big, it’s ugly, and it’s a gas guzzler.”

That is the only overt assault on the H2 that I have witnessed, and it was in direct opposition to the almost totally positive reaction to the vehicle. The impact the big ugly gas guzzler has on the general public has been a shocker. Over the decades I have frittered away endless hours motoring around in multitudes of cars and trucks, most of which have faded into my memory bank, and only a handful of vehicles have elicited a similar response.

The first was a Mercedes-Benz 600, the stunning leviathan sedan that the Stuttgart firm launched in 1964, powered by a lusty 6.3-liter DOHC V-8. Our test car, a short-wheelbase version, was, for all its weight and size, capable of running with the fastest sports cars of the day while leaving gape-jawed spectators in its wake. I recall a drunken tear down Manhattan’s Fifth Avenue with Carroll Shelby and other misfits after a smoky burnout from the portico of the posh Plaza Hotel following a black-tie dinner, proving once again that the barbarians are never far from seizing civilization.

So, too, for the first 930 Porsche that fell into my hands in 1975. That little maverick, complete with its vivid whale-tail spoiler, was a cranky beast, its turbo capable of suddenly, without warning, jacking up power to a point where the omnipresent oversteer could turn the little coupe into a whirling dervish. But it was a machine I truly loved driving.

Of course, my favorite long-hauler of all time was the Ferrari Daytona that Dan Gurney and I drove to victory in the 1971 Cannonball, crossing the nation in less than a day and a half. That fabulous old warrior, now in the hands of Seattle collector and vintage racer Bruce McCaw, captivated like no other. Its vast range of torque produced amazing performance. I recall a race with a guy in a Pontiac GTO somewhere in Oklahoma. He was able to stay with me until about 100 mph, when the Ferrari seemed to gain a whole new life, surging to 150 mph while the victim in the GTO thought he’d been tied to a tree. That wonderful machine would top out at just a wink under 175 mph while being as docile as a Buick Electra.

In retrospect, the unique factor among all those machines, in addition to their vivid performance, was their styling. Each had a profile that was outrageous and outside the box. Like the H2 this offered an extra dimension to their appeal.

In this age of androgyny, wherein a Suzuki can be confused with a Toyota or a Saturn or a Honda, outré styling is playing an increasingly important role in sales. I think of the Mazda RX-8, the Mini Cooper, the Chevrolet SSR, the Audi TT, the Chrysler PT Cruiser convertible, the Honda Insight, and the Dodge Magnum wagon, among others, as breakout machines, not due necessarily to their performance or mechanical exotica, but rather because of their eye-arresting contours. So, too, for the H2, which, love it or despise it, refuses to be ignored. It transmits a message to all automakers that the era of pea-pod cars may be over.

We live in a world that is becoming increasingly bland, with clothing, food, music, and television developing an overlay of worldwide conformity. A street in Paris or Hong Kong is beginning to look like one in Malibu or Greenwich, Connecticut. If automakers are to survive in this world of excessive overcapacity (estimated by some experts to be as much as 30 percent), daredevil styling and design may be the only salvation. Including big ugly gas guzzlers.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=27&article_id=8217&page_number=1

[J.T.H2]

BRAVO!!

[DennisAJC]

Heeeexcellent!

[KenP]

Made my night. I think I will send that to a reporter friend. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[devilsfan]

Great article. I'd love to post it on the window of every Prius or Civic stuck in a snowbank in the Northeast right now. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Stacy

[SUVGuy]

http://www.yourlawyer.com/practice/news.htm?story_id=8978&topic=Hummer%20H2

[Easy Ed]

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