View Full Version : Help me understand the 4HI 4Lo Settings on H3
H3Lady
08-05-2005, 07:51 AM
Can someone kinda of let me know how to use the buttons on the dash for 4hi 4lo and when to use them and in what condtions. We have sometime heavy snow here too.
PS...I turn off stabiltrack and I feel the H3 rides better, but plan to leave it on in wet weather.
H3Lady
08-05-2005, 07:51 AM
Can someone kinda of let me know how to use the buttons on the dash for 4hi 4lo and when to use them and in what condtions. We have sometime heavy snow here too.
PS...I turn off stabiltrack and I feel the H3 rides better, but plan to leave it on in wet weather.
Hummer Guy
08-05-2005, 12:02 PM
4HI -- everyday driving
4HI Lock -- Slippery mud, snow, ice, sand
4LO Lock -- Rock crawling, step climing, DEEP snow.
Some places will say to use 4hi lock in the rain -- I've never been a fan of that recomendation unless it's some kind of hurricane...
PARAGON
08-05-2005, 12:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3Lady:
PS...I turn off stabiltrack and I feel the H3 rides better, but plan to leave it on in wet weather. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Where is the switch located for this?
Georgemarc
08-05-2005, 12:09 PM
Just to the right of the 4LO Lock
Hummer Guy
08-05-2005, 12:15 PM
In order to turn it off you have to hold it down for 5 seconds and a little light will come on the dash...if you have an adventure package, its right next to the locking rear diff button
H3Lady
08-05-2005, 12:33 PM
Thanks Hummer guy
can you use the 4HI lock on the hwy. I heard not too for faster speeds
any truths
I turned stabitrack off and it seemed to move better ????????????????????
Hummer Guy
08-05-2005, 12:49 PM
if you're able to go highway speeds and not lose control, you probably don't need 4HI Lock...Plus your gas milage would probably decrease as well...
HummerNewbie
08-05-2005, 01:21 PM
If you need to be in 4HI Lock, you probably shouldn't be driving at highway speeds anyway http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
jkH1+H2=H3
08-05-2005, 01:30 PM
Should and does the 4 ^ always stay lit.? Do you need to be in Dive 2 or 3 to have the Rear Differental work??
jkH1+H2=H3
08-05-2005, 02:00 PM
Whats up http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gifSorry my english is a little off today.....U must be a Babe magnet.
BUKHUM
08-05-2005, 02:52 PM
thanks everyone for the lesson when to use 4HI, 4HI Locked, 4LO...good review
SFOX...danks fo duh engis lesson... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
H3Lady
08-05-2005, 04:33 PM
yup thanks
wannabeH3
08-05-2005, 04:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummer Guy:
In order to turn it off you have to hold it down for 5 seconds and a little light will come on the dash...if you have an adventure package, its right next to the locking rear diff button </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
its 10 seconds! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Steve R
08-05-2005, 04:48 PM
Anyone care to touch on the subject at hand?
The only difference between 4hi OR 4hi-locked is that the transfer case locks; this is essentially the center-differential. You only want this "locked" situation when there can be slippage on the ground (mud, snow, sand...loose conditions).
You do not want to use this setting when on pavement. We've had a couple instances where some H2 owners forgot to switch out of 4hi-locked and drove on pavement long distances...only to fry their t-cases!
Enough said...but if you want more:
When a vehicle makes a turn, the outside wheel will turn more rotations then the inside wheel...this is the reason for a differential, it essentiall absorbs the difference in the axle. Much in the same way, when a vehicle turns the front axle will cover a different distance then the rear axle...and so the transfer case has a slippage device to account for this. This slippage device can make things sloppy offroad, and so we lucky Hummer owners can "lock" this center differential.....and so the transfer case is "locked"
Enough said....want more?
Try this: find a parking lot where there is dirt. do some tight circles and you can feel the vehicle easily turning. (roll down your windows to listen). NOW, go into 4hi-locked and make those same circles: you may sense/feel some hesitation and even hear the ground breaking as the slippage is no longer afforded.
Good quesiton!
Last I checked, I had a little black book sitting in my glove compartment...
Hummer Guy
08-05-2005, 05:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by wannabeH3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummer Guy:
In order to turn it off you have to hold it down for 5 seconds and a little light will come on the dash...if you have an adventure package, its right next to the locking rear diff button </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
its 10 seconds! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'll bet you lunch it's 5.... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Hummer Guy
08-05-2005, 05:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jkH1+H2=H3:
Should and does the 4 ^ always stay lit.? Do you need to be in Dive 2 or 3 to have the Rear Differental work?? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You probably meant locking rear differential working? In that case, the locking rear will only work when in 4 low lock, but you do not have to be in a lower gear -- but you'll probably want to be! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Hummer H3 SUV
08-05-2005, 05:10 PM
You might want to read the manual that comes with our Hummers.
Hummer Guy
08-05-2005, 05:30 PM
who are you talking to H3SUV?
tacocat
08-05-2005, 05:41 PM
Steve hit that one on the head. A typical full-time 4x4 has three differentials, front, center, and rear. As far as using part-time 4wd, part-time 4Hi is typically employed when the ground allows slippage and you want to carry some speed. 4Hi will come in handy during mud bogging, dune running, or playing in the snow.
If you have the 4.03:1 T-case, 4Hi will probably be really handy.
Does the center diff truly lock or is it one of those visco clutch deals? Personally, I would like to see a T-case offer 2wd, 4Hi full-time, 4Hi part-time, and 4Lo with a true locking center diff.
Steve R
08-05-2005, 06:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tacocat:
Does the center diff truly lock or is it one of those visco clutch deals?
Personally, I would like to see a T-case offer 2wd, 4Hi full-time, 4Hi part-time, and 4Lo with a true locking center diff. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I too would like to have seen a 2wd option on the t-case, not sure why they don't have it, probably cheaper and easier to make it the way it is. They figured a full-time 4wd is fine.
As for the locking t-case, I'm not sure whether it's a locking or viscous deal. Most the high-tech mechanical guys will tell you that only the axles have differentials, etc....our transfer case doesn't exactly have a differential, but something so similiar that it's fine to think of it as a locker. In normal operation I think we split power 70% to rear and 30% to front, then it become 50/50 when locked.
Here is one thing I can tell...from experience: if you jack 3 wheels up in the air and try to move forward with just one wheel on the ground...you won't go anywhere in 4-hi UNlocked. Once you switch to 4hi-locked, you'll move on that one tire on the ground.
hyperion78
08-05-2005, 08:25 PM
how close are the H3 diffs and all to the 03 bravada AWD system. My parents have one and they're having issues with it feeling like it's slipping when you're hard on the gas. I test drove an H3 today and it felt like it was sort of doing that too. Couldn't tell if it was that or the bumps in the road. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
wannabeH3
08-05-2005, 08:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
I'll bet you lunch it's 5.... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
your on im gonna make a movie with my digicam! haha
wannabeH3
08-05-2005, 08:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Steve R:
Anyone care to touch on the subject at hand?
The only difference between 4hi OR 4hi-locked is that the transfer case locks; this is essentially the center-differential. You only want this "locked" situation when there can be slippage on the ground (mud, snow, sand...loose conditions).
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
i dont think thats correct, i thought you had 4 hi 4 hi locked (REAR DIFF LOCKED) 4LO locked with rear diff locked, and then you have the center diff locking button only usable with 4 lo lock. am i wrong? right?
Steve R
08-06-2005, 03:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by wannabeH3:
am i wrong? right? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Right, you're wrong.
The rear locker is actuated seperately via a button, it's operational only in 4-lo. It locks the rear differential.
The transfer case, which distributes power to the front axle and rear axle, has it's own differential of sorts. Unlocked (aka full-time 4wd) it distributes power 70% to rear, 30% to front and allows slippage. Locked (aka part-time 4wd) is just turns front & rear axle irregardless of either axle having traction or not.
It's really quite simple once you get beyond the confusing issues. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
One thing I will say, it's important to know and fully understand these features and how they work when offroading. More valuable then most realize.
Hummer Guy
08-06-2005, 01:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by wannabeH3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
I'll bet you lunch it's 5.... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
your on im gonna make a movie with my digicam! haha </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
And just slow down the speed on it? Its on page 15 of your "getting to know your 2006 H3" guide as well as the owner's manual...I push it for 5 seconds everytime I explain it to a customer... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
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