Gas Can Carrier

[MarineHawk]

Does anyone know if someone makes one that mounts on the spare tire? seems like I recall seeing them on J##ps, but I can't find any online.

[PARAGON]

some options

http://offroadrecovery.com/category/blitzjerrycansandacc/

[PARAGON]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8046602158

[Alan06SUT]

If you go with the tire one, let us know how it works and post pics! I have thought about using that setup. Seems like it would be easy to siphon from w/o having to move the tank.

Also if you need a siphon, the flotool kicks arse. you just have to shake it up a down a couple of times to get the siphon going.

http://www.autobarn.net/shakersiphon.html

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
some options

http://offroadrecovery.com/category/blitzjerrycansandacc/

Thanks.

I'd like to get something like that. I guess I would have to do something different with my license plate. Maybe attach it to the gas can?

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
If you go with the tire one, let us know how it works and post pics! I have thought about using that setup. Seems like it would be easy to siphon from w/o having to move the tank.

Also if you need a siphon, the flotool kicks arse. you just have to shake it up a down a couple of times to get the siphon going.

http://www.autobarn.net/shakersiphon.html

You could use that to siphon gas from rolled over J##ps and Xterras along the trial.

[Alan06SUT]

here is the best plate relocation in my opinion. This is tim's old SUT.http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/ga/ul/3501079841/inlineimg/Y/Relocate_plate_2.JPG

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
here is the best plate relocation in my opinion. This is tim's old SUT.http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/ga/ul/3501079841/inlineimg/Y/Relocate_plate_2.JPG

Thanks.

[Alan06SUT]

I have been tring to come up with a way to mount a jerry can on my rig where I could just leave it attached and easily refill it and siphon it out. I would use it to fill small equipment on my jobsites. The only way it will work and still allow the tailgate to open is to mount it to the spare. But, I dont want that to be the first thing to hit if (knock on wood) I ever back into something.

Mounting it to: the gobi bed rack is too high, the left of the tire covers the latch, right gets smushed when you try to open the tailgate. The only other option I can think of is to move the "A" part of the tire carrier toward the left or right ( which moves the tire off center) and then mount a can next to the tire on either side.

If I were to do this, I would probably move the tire toward the swing away joint so there wouldnt bee additional force added too the joint.

Any other ideas that dont require moving the spare???

[KenP]

No way in the world would I mount a tank of gas back there. Put the can on a roof rack, or devise some may of mounting it in the bed or on the bed rail. You're just asking for death back there.

Of course that's my opinion and it doesn't mean jack... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[ree]

Originally posted by KenP:
You're just asking for death back there.


Yeah. Some of those cans are well tested in "live-fire tests" to demonstrate they won't explode, but I'd hate to get rear ended by a semi and then have my own spare gas spashed all over me as something starts to burn.

Roof rack..as long as you can get in the garage with them on.

[MarineHawk]

My garage opening is already far too narrow for me. the real issue is the parking garage. I may get a roof rack, but I assume it's a PITA to put on and take off regularly?

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by MarineHawk:
My garage opening is already far too narrow for me. the real issue is the parking garage. I may get a roof rack, but I assume it's a PITA to put on and take off regularly? I'm checking on other options.

[Adam in CO]

Gas can carrier for everyone.

[Racer-X]

For rack mounting this is the best solution IMO. I came across a rover on the trail last weekend with one of these and asked him where he got it. He gave me this website:

http://www.roveraccessories.com/fuelstorage.htm

Cost is $75 for the single and $135 for the double.

Nice thing is, they lock. Both the Nato and Sceptor cans fit.

Only drawback is having the empty mount bolted to your rack when you not off-roading. The other thing is - I bought the last double they had and I got the impression it was the last one ever since they are now just bolting singles together for multiple cans.

[ree]

Originally posted by Racer-X:
Cost is $75 for the single and $135 for the double.

Pricey for a metal crate.

[Racer-X]

Originally posted by ree:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Racer-X:
Cost is $75 for the single and $135 for the double.

Pricey for a metal crate. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agreed, but short of having something fabbed, it's the only mount I've ever seen that allows the cans to be laid on their sides.

I've tried ratchet straps, they work but are messy looking. Also, they can be cut by theives and they come loose during hard wheeling.

[Alan06SUT]

I would take my chances if it were beside the tire, but not on the back of it.

[Alan06SUT]

Lets ressurect this.... Anyone have a good, easy to access/siphon location for the an extra gas can http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
Lets ressurect this.... Anyone have a good, easy to access/siphon location for the an extra gas can http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif I'm still working on something

[Alan06SUT]

I wont be able to get itno my parking deck at my office. I lead a dual life of being out on job sites and in the office, so I need to be able to get itno decks, etc. but also may have to fill up equipment the same day.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
I wont be able to get itno my parking deck at my office. I lead a dual life of being out on job sites and in the office, so I need to be able to get itno decks, etc. but also may have to fill up equipment the same day. I'm working on something http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Racer-X]

Alec, I'm working on something similar. I bought the fuel can holders and something called a shaker syphon hose from roveraccessories.com. I will mount the cans on the left as you said. With the shaker hoese you just put one end in the can and shake the other end that has a device that starts a syphon. pretty cool.

Alan, for you, do a search, there was a thread here that covered very low profile tanks, maybe a couple of inches high at most. Anybody remember that? I assume the shaker hose would work fine with that aswell.

[Racer-X]

Heres the shaker. I guess I had it backwards (mine hasn't come yet) the metal shaker goes IN the fuel can.

http://www.autobarn.net/shakersiphon.html

I tried a search on the low profile fuel storage but came up with nothing. I'm sure there was a thread here. I think they were grey and I beleive stackable. They would be pretty easy to mount over or under the stock roof bars I think.

[Alan06SUT]

Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
If you go with the tire one, let us know how it works and post pics! I have thought about using that setup. Seems like it would be easy to siphon from w/o having to move the tank.

Also if you need a siphon, the flotool kicks arse. you just have to shake it up a down a couple of times to get the siphon going.

http://www.autobarn.net/shakersiphon.html

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Racer-X]

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif Did I skim? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[KenP]

P, are you still working on something? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

You can lay those cans on their side.

I love my can. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[timgco]

Originally posted by KenP:
P, are you still working on something? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

You can lay those cans on their side.

I love my can. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ken has a big can! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[PARAGON]

http://x402.putfile.com/4/11320512271.jpg
Adam sure has a ****load of stuff on his roof http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by Racer-X:
Heres the shaker. I guess I had it backwards (mine hasn't come yet) the metal shaker goes IN the fuel can.

http://www.autobarn.net/shakersiphon.html

I tried a search on the low profile fuel storage but came up with nothing. I'm sure there was a thread here. I think they were grey and I beleive stackable. They would be pretty easy to mount over or under the stock roof bars I think.

Try:
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5106011751/m/6...881091061#6881091061 (http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5106011751/m/6881091061/r/6881091061#6881091061)

[PARAGON]

It's really easy to get fuel started from one of these nato cans. Just stick the hose down in about a foot or two or more length that the can is tall, put your thumb over the other end, pull out most of the hose and hold it below the top of the tank and let it start. If your hose is long enough, you'll have it in your fuel tank before it reaches the end. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Just don't do it near any cryptobiotic soil. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Racer-X]

Thanks MH! That was driving me crazy.

Looking at them again, they won't work for Alan. Now way to siphon with that cap on the side. Maybe a hose could be fashioned with a shut off on it though. But then how would it vent?

[MarineHawk]

It seems like it would be fairly convenient to just pull the tie down straps off those things, unscrew the lid, pull out your funnel, pour, restrap, and be on your way.

[PARAGON]

What if I told you I was working on something that would hold one of the blitz cans, in a fashion that you could easily siphon the fuel from it and into the fuel tank of the truck or into another can or something. Plus it'll look cool.

I'm working on something. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
What if I told you I was working on something that would hold one of the blitz cans, in a fashion that you could easily siphon the fuel from it and into the fuel tank of the truck or into another can or something. Plus it'll look cool.

I'm working on something. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Let us know when you can tell us more. Maybe you need a patent lawyer for when some jackass tries to steal your idea? Is Walc your attorney?

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by MarineHawk:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
What if I told you I was working on something that would hold one of the blitz cans, in a fashion that you could easily siphon the fuel from it and into the fuel tank of the truck or into another can or something. Plus it'll look cool.

I'm working on something. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Let us know when you can tell us more. Maybe you need a patent lawyer for when some jackass tries to steal your idea? Is Walc your attorney? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You do patents?

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
Lets ressurect this.... Anyone have a good, easy to access/siphon location for the an extra gas can http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
Move cans to the left:
http://x402.putfile.com/4/11320512271.jpg
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just noticed: not only does Adam have a bazillion gas cans; he has two ladders. Does he have another spare tire on the inside?

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MarineHawk:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
What if I told you I was working on something that would hold one of the blitz cans, in a fashion that you could easily siphon the fuel from it and into the fuel tank of the truck or into another can or something. Plus it'll look cool.

I'm working on something. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Let us know when you can tell us more. Maybe you need a patent lawyer for when some jackass tries to steal your idea? Is Walc your attorney? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You do patents? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Check your PM.

[Rockyot]

Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
I would take my chances if it were beside the tire, but not on the back of it.
Have you found a carrier yet? If not a fabrication shop in Orange County California is starting to produce one that will hold a Septor tank and mount on the factory spare tire holder to the left of the tire.

[ree]

Originally posted by Rockyot:
Have you found a carrier yet? If not a fabrication shop in Orange County California is starting to produce one that will hold a Septor tank and mount on the factory spare tire holder to the left of the tire.
So is the plan to put the can way out over the latch end so that it isn't covered by the spare tire at all? I don't have the OE carrier, I have a Husky carrier with just a single vertical post. But the gap between the back of the spare and the lift gate doesn't allow for a 6.75" gas can to fit in there...without adding a spacer on the tire mount? Does the OEM carrier have a bigger gap?

[Alan06SUT]

Originally posted by Rockyot:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
I would take my chances if it were beside the tire, but not on the back of it.
Have you found a carrier yet? If not a fabrication shop in Orange County California is starting to produce one that will hold a Septor tank and mount on the factory spare tire holder to the left of the tire. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not yet. Are there pics of it yet? Sounds interesting.

[Alan06SUT]

Originally posted by ree:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rockyot:
Have you found a carrier yet? If not a fabrication shop in Orange County California is starting to produce one that will hold a Septor tank and mount on the factory spare tire holder to the left of the tire.
So is the plan to put the can way out over the latch end so that it isn't covered by the spare tire at all? I don't have the OE carrier, I have a Husky carrier with just a single vertical post. But the gap between the back of the spare and the lift gate doesn't allow for a 6.75" gas can to fit in there...without adding a spacer on the tire mount? Does the OEM carrier have a bigger gap? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> On the stock one you would still have to move the tire over to the right in order to fit the can and still be a ble to use the latch...I think.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rockyot:
Have you found a carrier yet? If not a fabrication shop in Orange County California is starting to produce one that will hold a Septor tank and mount on the factory spare tire holder to the left of the tire.
So is the plan to put the can way out over the latch end so that it isn't covered by the spare tire at all? I don't have the OE carrier, I have a Husky carrier with just a single vertical post. But the gap between the back of the spare and the lift gate doesn't allow for a 6.75" gas can to fit in there...without adding a spacer on the tire mount? Does the OEM carrier have a bigger gap? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> On the stock one you would still have to move the tire over to the right in order to fit the can and still be a ble to use the latch...I think. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Nope.

I working on something http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[ree]

Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
On the stock one you would still have to move the tire over to the right in order to fit the can and still be a ble to use the latch...I think.

Then it sounds like this fab shop story could be BS:
(1) a Scepter can will not fit between the tire and the lift gate (it doesn't on my Husky carrier)
(2) moving can way out to the left (viewed from behind) with some bracket so that it clears the spare and is lifted above the handle obscures the left tail lights

I just don't think a traditionally-sized jerry can is going to work back there. Switch to something slimmer, which probably doesn't exist yet, and it might be workable.

Because I've got a single vertical post holding the spare, I could probably mount a pair of those [aforementioned] thin Kolpin ATV tanks on end on either side of the spare. But for 6.5 gallons of gas it hardly seems worth it.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by ree:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
On the stock one you would still have to move the tire over to the right in order to fit the can and still be a ble to use the latch...I think.

Then it sounds like this fab shop story could be BS:
(1) a Scepter can will not fit between the tire and the lift gate (it doesn't on my Husky carrier)
(2) moving can way out to the left (viewed from behind) with some bracket so that it clears the spare and is lifted above the handle obscures the left tail lights

I just don't think a traditionally-sized jerry can is going to work back there. Switch to something slimmer, which probably doesn't exist yet, and it might be workable.

Because I've got a single vertical post holding the spare, I could probably mount a pair of those [aforementioned] thin Kolpin ATV tanks on end on either side of the spare. But for 6.5 gallons of gas it hardly seems worth it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Probably can't help you, but those with the regular tire carriers will be able to carry a single Blitz can.

[Rockyot]

I have one being fabricated right now for the rear left of the factory tire carrier. If someone wants another i should have photos in about two weeks.

[Rockyot]

I just read Paragon's response. Yes it is going to be on the left and above the factory latch. It will not block the left tailight. We have already done a cardboard mock up and are welding in stainless steel now. I am thinking about producing them for sale. Mine will be in polished SS for pictures only. Production if it works properly will be in unpainted steel.

[ree]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
Probably can't help you, but those with the regular tire carriers will be able to carry a single Blitz can.

Originally posted by Rockyot:
I just read Paragon's response. Yes it is going to be on the left and above the factory latch.

Qs for either of you:

So it the gap between the liftgate and tire on the OE carrier more than 6.5"?

Or will the can sit more next to the tire instead of between it and the lift gate?

[Rockyot]

Mine is going to sit next to the tire not between the door and the tire.

[Rockyot]

It will only work with factory size tires. Oversize tires will have to come up with something else.