H3 with Rough Country 5in lift and 37's

[Ricky]

This was built by Rough Country Suspension out of dyersburg,TN they bought this truck new to build the lift for it, in the first picture the guy on the left is the one who designs and builds the lifts, the one on the right is the one who sells them.. Two REALLY nice guys and the kit is very well made, it is a 5" lift with 37's all the way around, truck looks incredible.. the kit is 100% bolt on and ALL THE FACTORY accesories will work with it, he said he wanted everything to still work and it does! AWESOME job by these guys if i ever lift a truck i will be getting it from them! lemme know what you think or any questions me or bbyhmr can answer them
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The truck CLEARED THE H1 side of out track!! the H2's cant even make it over that!!!
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CHRIS's (bbyhmr) H3 on 35's
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[Ricky]

This was built by Rough Country Suspension out of dyersburg,TN they bought this truck new to build the lift for it, in the first picture the guy on the left is the one who designs and builds the lifts, the one on the right is the one who sells them.. Two REALLY nice guys and the kit is very well made, it is a 5" lift with 37's all the way around, truck looks incredible.. the kit is 100% bolt on and ALL THE FACTORY accesories will work with it, he said he wanted everything to still work and it does! AWESOME job by these guys if i ever lift a truck i will be getting it from them! lemme know what you think or any questions me or bbyhmr can answer them
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6349/pictures0011dy.jpg
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/8094/pictures0036iw.jpg
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/9848/pictures0050kg.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5446/pictures0060kr.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2259/pictures0145gv.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7550/pictures0151am.jpg
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/3981/pictures0163cb.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2733/pictures0183pj.jpg
The truck CLEARED THE H1 side of out track!! the H2's cant even make it over that!!!
http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/5752/pictures0239hb.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3223/pictures0252vi.jpg
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CHRIS's (bbyhmr) H3 on 35's
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[Ricky]

more:
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FULLY TUCKED ON 37'S!!!
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Chris (bbyhmr) H3 on 35's
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[DarthKarl]

Very nice work indeed. I like the lift, but I'm far more interested in the winch and the mount.

[DeLeon]

That lift looks great and I love the fact that I can keep the fatory wheels, that is the look that I want for my H3!!

Can you please let us know more details? (price, installation, etc.) or at least a number or email address that we could use to get more information?

Thanks!

[NEOCON1]

Man that looks great http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif how do you think it would look with 35's ? Do you think there would be too much room in wheel wells with 35's .

[timgco]

Great pics guys.

Questions/ cocerns.

1st I just want to say it looks great!

1) What parts come with the kit?

2) my concern is the factory rim width of 7.5" and 12.50 wide tire. i though you had to run at least a 8" wide rim to run a 12.50 wide tire. ???

3) What do you use for shocks?

4) How does it ride vs stock?

5) Did those 37's hit the fenderwells or airdam in the front?

6) How did Chirs fit the 35's on his truck without lifting it? How much do they stuff into the fender wells?

[Mike B]

I didn't think the I-5 could turn tires that large without taxing the engine too much. But damn it looks nice.

[Ricky]

Chris fit 35's stock.. they all will.. they DO NOT rub. the 37's tuck all the way and BARELY rub.. yeah factory wheels, ride fine its driven every day.. THE KIT IS COMPLETELY BOLT ON no cutting or fab work atol, ALL the factory hummer stuff fit no prob he designed it to be compatable with everything. skid plates, steps, brushguard etc etc etc

[Ricky]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NEOCON1:
Man that looks great http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif how do you think it would look with 35's ? Do you think there would be too much room in wheel wells with 35's . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

might look a lil small but prolly still look good!

[crop000s]

Two questions, Where do I get it and how much? That looks sweet!

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crop000s:
Two questions, Where do I get it and how much? That looks sweet! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMAO! You're just as bad as me. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[Ricky]

http://www.roughcountry.com/

[Huck BB62]

A couple of concerns, how does it affect the get-up-and go? How does it affect side hilling? How does it affect handling in the twisties. I live in the mountains, going from a Mini S to the Hummer has been a hard adjustment. I drive straight up the mountains every day, how's the I-5 do with that much tire?

Awesome package!

[Anonymous]

That looks great. I really got interested in that kit from the other thread and did some checking on their website last night but they still don't have any information on it. I'd love something like that with 35s on mine. The power issue has me a little concerned with anything bigger than that.

[HummBebe]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">2) my concern is the factory rim width of 7.5" and 12.50 wide tire. i though you had to run at least a 8" wide rim to run a 12.50 wide tire. ??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


That's what I thought. But it appears to be fine. Tell us how you fudged that 1/2" !!!!

Oh, and I'm sold. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Huck BB62]

Hey, I forgot a question, what about that winch mount? Is it removable? (no need to run around with the winch all the time when I don't need it)

[BbyHmmr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummBebe:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">2) my concern is the factory rim width of 7.5" and 12.50 wide tire. i though you had to run at least a 8" wide rim to run a 12.50 wide tire. ??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


That's what I thought. But it appears to be fine. Tell us how you fudged that 1/2" !!!!

Oh, and I'm sold. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I looked for about 3 weeks straight before I purchased my 35s and I belive that Procomp and Mickey Thompson are the only 2 companies that carry a 35" tire(at that time) in 16s that you can buy that will fit the stock width I had to go with a 315/75/16. That way I didn't have to take any chances with the tire rim being to narrow. I have even had them all the way down to 15lbs for trail riding and no problems at all with the trying to seperate from the rim.

[BbyHmmr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crop000s:
Two questions, Where do I get it and how much? That looks sweet! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The kit which includes everything you need including the shocks will cost you $1999. For more information contact Davy Lee Regional Sales Manager dlee@roughcountry.com or call at 731-228-4468 or toll free 800-222-7023

[BbyHmmr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NEOCON1:
Man that looks great http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif how do you think it would look with 35's ? Do you think there would be too much room in wheel wells with 35's . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am going to run the 35s on mmine with the lift, I think it will look great, should have way more flex than you could want and wont tax the motor that much at all.

[BbyHmmr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
Great pics guys.

Questions/ cocerns.

1st I just want to say it looks great!

1) What parts come with the kit?

2) my concern is the factory rim width of 7.5" and 12.50 wide tire. i though you had to run at least a 8" wide rim to run a 12.50 wide tire. ???

3) What do you use for shocks?

4) How does it ride vs stock?

5) Did those 37's hit the fenderwells or airdam in the front?

6) How did Chirs fit the 35's on his truck without lifting it? How much do they stuff into the fender wells? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Tim this guy is the manager of product development, Mark Turner mturner@heckethorn.com he will be glad to answer any technical questions any of you guys have.

[HummBebe]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BbyHmmr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummBebe:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">2) my concern is the factory rim width of 7.5" and 12.50 wide tire. i though you had to run at least a 8" wide rim to run a 12.50 wide tire. ??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


That's what I thought. But it appears to be fine. Tell us how you fudged that 1/2" !!!!

Oh, and I'm sold. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I looked for about 3 weeks straight before I purchased my 35s and I belive that Procomp and Mickey Thompson are the only 2 companies that carry a 35" tire(at that time) in 16s that you can buy that will fit the stock width I had to go with a 315/75/16. That way I didn't have to take any chances with the tire rim being to narrow. I have even had them all the way down to 15lbs for trail riding and no problems at all with the trying to seperate from the rim. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Looks like Toyo makes the same size, would these work???
http://www.toyo.com/tires/tire_lines/popups/jpgs/opmt.jpg

Toyo Linky (http://www.toyo.com/tires/tire_lines/off_road/opmt.html)

[NEOCON1]

dudes the more I look at the picks the more I dig it . they did a great job , Im thinking 35's on these in a 16x8

[gchurchill]

that has got to be one of the best lift jobs on a H3 that I have seen yet. The other ones, didnt look like they exactally fitted the vehicle. This one looks like it is really made for the vehicle! I am definetely going to look into something like that in the future!

[BbyHmmr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummBebe:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BbyHmmr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummBebe:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">2) my concern is the factory rim width of 7.5" and 12.50 wide tire. i though you had to run at least a 8" wide rim to run a 12.50 wide tire. ??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



That's what I thought. But it appears to be fine. Tell us how you fudged that 1/2" !!!!

Oh, and I'm sold. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I looked for about 3 weeks straight before I purchased my 35s and I belive that Procomp and Mickey Thompson are the only 2 companies that carry a 35" tire(at that time) in 16s that you can buy that will fit the stock width I had to go with a 315/75/16. That way I didn't have to take any chances with the tire rim being to narrow. I have even had them all the way down to 15lbs for trail riding and no problems at all with the trying to seperate from the rim. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Looks like Toyo makes the same size, would these work???
http://www.toyo.com/tires/tire_lines/popups/jpgs/opmt.jpg

Toyo Linky (http://www.toyo.com/tires/tire_lines/off_road/opmt.html) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Those tires are awesome, very little road noise compared to the competition, i have friend who runs those tires, only complaint i ahve about them is they do not clear out that well in the mud, but then again that is just my 2 cents.

[NEOCON1]

how about a shot of it next to a H2

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NEOCON1:
how about a shot of it next to a H2 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I bet the roofline sits higher.

[Killer]

I recently spoke with Davy Lee of Rough Country suspensions and for those of you who are interested the lift should be available to the general public sometime after the first of the year. He mentioned that the owner of this rig noticed very little loss of performance with the 37's but I can't see how that would hold true. I personally love this lift and think it has been thought out much longer than that of the Rancho. I like the fact that it allows the use of the factory rims and skid palte and requires no cutting. I also see that the articulation of the suspension is still tremendous and I would love to see how the Rancho faired in regards to this lift off road or on the Hummer course. I am going to get one as soon as it becomes available and once I am complete I will post pics for everyone to see. Until then I will enjoy my Hummer in stock form and will more than likely install 35's sometime within the next week or so.

[jacob]

Here's an email from Davy regarding some questions timgco asked...I'm very interested as well and his questions mirrored my own:
1.Non torsion bar drop kit. Keeps bars up in stock location. Really cool. Knuckles, new cv shafts, cross member drop front and rear. lower skid plate, sway bar links front and rear, shackles for the rear/leafs, Chrome monotube 5100 shocks
2.The factory rim will work with a P metric tires. It works just fine as seen.
3. We use our 5100 series Chrome Shocks. Monotube nitro 9000 model.
4. Rides exactly just like stock. Torsion bars have the same pre load torque as factory. No cranking on bars. Work in same factory range of motion.
5. 37's do not rub.
6. Selling price is 1999.95.
7. Winch plate is ours. It will be about 249.00 dollars. If you buy a T-max winch at that time, we will do you a deal on the plate.
8. We are about 100 days out on the kit before we can sell. Testing stage is done and we will slowly be getting parts in over the next 60-90 days.

Thanks
Davy




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From: ]
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 10:27 PM
To: Davy Lee
Subject: Hummer H3 Lift... [text][html]


I recently saw a post on an H3 forum with pictures of the new Rough Country 5 inch suspension lift on a Yellow H3. That lift looks GREAT! I couldn't find any information on your web site about it. I'm extremely interested in this product...along with every other H3 owner who saw the post on the forum! I have a few questions about the kit and was wondering if you could help me out. Attached is one of the pics from the post on the forum I read. FYI...here's the link: http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/4871031121/m/9811023941

1) What parts come with the kit?
2) Is the factory rim width of 7.5" and 12.50 wide tire sufficient? I thought you had to run at least a 8" wide rim to fit a 12.50 wide tire???
3) What do you use for shocks?
4) How does it ride vs. stock?
5) Did those 37's hit the fender or airdam in the front? Any rubbing issues at all? What is the actual tire size and brand?
6) How much will this kit be selling for?
7) Where did you find a winch mount for that H3? (I've been looking everywhere for one)

Any information you have regarding this kit would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Jacob Davis
Rapid City, SD

[jacob]

That is one sweet-ass lift kit...it's about time we saw a truly functional rig! I personally like it much better with the stock rims...leave the "Bling" for the mall rats. Looks way superior to Rancho's kit. Does anyone have the actual tire size that's on there? I bet some 315/75/16's (35's) would be enough. What do you guys think?

[BbyHmmr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jacob:
That is one sweet-ass lift kit...it's about time we saw a truly functional rig! I personally like it much better with the stock rims...leave the "Bling" for the mall rats. Looks way superior to Rancho's kit. Does anyone have the actual tire size that's on there? I bet some 315/75/16's (35's) would be enough. What do you guys think? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
That is exactly what I have on mine right now and I am going to leave them on when I lift it. I am the guy with the stock height H3 w/ 35s in those pics.

[tmiller]

Anyone know how long it takes to install and how difficult it is to do?

[DeLeon]

Hey you guys, it seems like you like this kit as much as I do... do you think we could get a group discount for the forum members?

Does anyone know how good or bad those shocks are? I'd like to get the lift kit but I'd rather have RANCHO or FOX shocks.

[Killer]

Personally I would love to see an H3 with the Rough Country lift and 35's...I'm still skeptical about the 37's.

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Killer:
Personally I would love to see an H3 with the Rough Country lift and 35's...I'm still skeptical about the 37's. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

As far as wheelwell/ tire clearance it will look close to this pic. But the tires won't stick out like mine do. That's really my only complaint about the Rancho kit. I think the 35's will look great.

[Killer]

Thanks...I really like the look of your rig, it's bad ass!. I do have one question for you. What is the exact offset / backspacing of the rims you installed on you H3?

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Killer:
Thanks...I really like the look of your rig, it's bad ass!. I do have one question for you. What is the exact offset / backspacing of the rims you installed on you H3? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

4.5" of backspace and it's not enough. Ranch said 4.5" backspace for 16, 17, or 18 rims, but plan on tearing up the inside of the sidewall of your tires when aired down. I also have 1/4" wheel spacers in the front. I am going to try 4" backspaced rims and see if that will clear. I called Rancho tech, talke d to Joe, and his comment was, this kit was designed with the factory specs in mind for wheel offest, and was not designed for airinig down that tire. He said to go with a 20" rim and I would be fine. WTF? So, I'm onto trying the different rims and if that doesn't work, the kit's going back to Rancho with a nice letter.

[Killer]

Damn...that sucks and I hate to hear that but at the same time I appreciate the information. Perhaps the Rough Country lift would be a better option??? I'm gonna level the front end a little (not more than 1.5") and put 35's on this weekend. http://www.truxxx.com has some good pics of an H3 leveled off with 35's. I like the look and it certainly would allow you to air down if and when necessary.

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BbyHmmr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jacob:
That is one sweet-ass lift kit...it's about time we saw a truly functional rig! I personally like it much better with the stock rims...leave the "Bling" for the mall rats. Looks way superior to Rancho's kit. Does anyone have the actual tire size that's on there? I bet some 315/75/16's (35's) would be enough. What do you guys think? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
That is exactly what I have on mine right now and I am going to leave them on when I lift it. I am the guy with the stock height H3 w/ 35s in those pics. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I sent you a PM.

[BABHUMV]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DeLeon:
Hey you guys, it seems like you like this kit as much as I do... do you think we could get a group discount for the forum members?
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
After seeing these pictures, I would be up for being part of the group buy on the kit.

[DeLeon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BABHUMV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DeLeon:
Hey you guys, it seems like you like this kit as much as I do... do you think we could get a group discount for the forum members?
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
After seeing these pictures, I would be up for being part of the group buy on the kit. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Great! so... who else would be interested?

[MxHonda]

I would be in for one.

[NEOCON1]

put me on the list

[Killer]

Count me in...

[Tones H3]

Im in too..

[x-humm]

Count me in!!!

[ETD]

I'm in. I, too, worry about the I-5 and bigger tires. Would experts please comment or would you rather wait for info from Rough Country. For those with 35"s, anything lost on asphalt? Thanks.

[humvee]

I have had 35's on for some time now and don't have any problems with pulling the tires. I did call Rough country to get the scoop on their lift and I was told that the 37's do make the tranny shift a little more than normal due to the size.

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by humvee:
I have had 35's on for some time now and don't have any problems with pulling the tires. I did call Rough country to get the scoop on their lift and I was told that the 37's do make the tranny shift a little more than normal due to the size. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Any close up pics of the tires close in to the frame/ fenders in the front?

[humvee]

On page 6, bottom of the page, (35 Mickey Thompson tires) are pictures of my H3. Lock to lock no rubbing at all. Also go to (find) and type in 35 inch tires and you will see discussion on this subject.
If I remember there is about An inch clearance turning both ways at full lock. I do have the torsion bars cranked about 1 1/2 inchs. They will fit without doing so though.

[HummBebe]

Mickey Thompson 35's (http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/albumcomments/f/4871031121/m/7111015631)

You mean this one ? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[humvee]

Thats it, Thanks! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Wasn't sure how to post it to this thread.

[DeLeon]

Hey guys... I see there are at least 10 people interested on the RC lift, I will try to call them or email them tomorrow and see if they can offer a good discount for all of us interested, I will keep you guys posted!

[Anonymous]

Add one more!

[tmiller]

I will try one also.

[HIHUMMER]

Me likey!!!

Add me in! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Rhyno]

I want a lift 2!

[KenP]

I missed this thread. I LOVE that lift!

[MyxH3]

Im in also for a RC lift , I have one on my jeep and it works great. Would be real great to get that price down also.

[Longhorn]

That truck looks awesome!

I can't wait to hear more once some of you guys complete some real world testing. Articulation looked very good, time will tell if that much height creates driveline issues.

Gears may be required with a jump to 37s. Thats a BIG change.

[x-humm]

I just came back from a Lift shop. They suggested that if I use this lift, to re-gear my rear axle.

[DeLeon]

Hey guys... just wanted to let you know that I called RC and even though I could not find the VP of sales to talk about the group discount, another sales rep. told me that if we get 10 or 15 people and we place ONE order to the same address and under the same credit card (or check) they could offer a very good discount... he didn't told me how much because that'd be up to the sale's VP, but a discount is possible.

The bad news are, that the lift will be available until mid 2006, he said that the engineer who designed this lift made some modifications and they have to test it again after is ready... so, we have 6 months to work something out with the sales people :-D

Merry Christmas eveyone!!

[x-humm]

Come on!!! One shipping location!! Yeah right Fob my house. One Credit card, Yeah, I wonder who's credit card can we use???

[timgco]

The delay may sound like bad to news to you guys. But take it from someone that just went through a bunch of BS with a lift that was rushed to the market. BTW- DON'T BUY A RANCHO LIFT!
At least Rough Country is making mods and taking time to make sure everything is good before they release to the public.

that whole shipping thing is BS. What you guys should do is start a private PM with info/ addresses to give to these guys and than ship accordingly. Ship to one address? I would have laughed my ass off at the person that made that statement. I would talk with the VP of Sales. better yet, Pm Jason and see what he can do. Jason has GREAT prices on acc.'s and maybe he will be a dealer and get better rates. it can't hurt to ask. Can it?

[H3 Hummer]

I wouldn't mind putting it on my credit card ( I could fly around the world for free afterward).

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sweet air mile points.

[Huck BB62]

No answer on how it'll do side hilling yet. I've four wheeled for years and one thing I HATE is suckin' up the seat trying to keep the uphill wheels on the ground. Another thing I enjoy is just getting in a vehicle, with 33" tires, without climbing into it. I see a big lift on any vehicle, without a roll cage, and it makes me wonder.

[DeLeon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
The delay may sound like bad to news to you guys. But take it from someone that just went through a bunch of BS with a lift that was rushed to the market. BTW- DON'T BUY A RANCHO LIFT!
At least Rough Country is making mods and taking time to make sure everything is good before they release to the public.

that whole shipping thing is BS. What you guys should do is start a private PM with info/ addresses to give to these guys and than ship accordingly. Ship to one address? I would have laughed my ass off at the person that made that statement. I would talk with the VP of Sales. better yet, Pm Jason and see what he can do. Jason has GREAT prices on acc.'s and maybe he will be a dealer and get better rates. it can't hurt to ask. Can it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree with you timgco, it's good to know that they are taking their time to fix all the issues with the lift kit BEFORE it hits the market, I said bad news because I want to get the lift and 35 inch tires ASAP... I guess I'll just have to wait now.

As for shipping to one address, that's what the sales rep. tod me and I also thought that was BS, that's why I want to talk to the VP of sales... I also thought of telling Jason to look into it and I think that would be the best option, but since the kit won't be available for the next 6 months I'll just give it a couple of months before I start asking.

[jagular7]

You have got to remember who you are talking to when dealing with purchasing an item in bulk and having it shipped to different locations. You are discussing this with the factory/manufacturer. They are probably not setup that way in their information and billing systems to handle multiple single orders. These manu's prefer to setup manufacturing a given quantity (lets say 1000 units) in a period of time. Then they break down the machines to setup to manu another type of product in another large quatity. They tend not to 'store' or warehouse their product as that's money sitting. Manufacturing money is made in the process of making and selling. So distributors will take a quantity, warehouse the item till it sells. Pricing for the manu is to cover the operation of the business (material, labor, overhead, etc) and slight profit. The price for a distributor is higher due to covering estimated holding costs and the slight handling costs. Distributors take a bite in business if a product they have bought in quantity doesn't move. That's the risk in business of product sales. There are lots of variables to consider. Probably the best thing to do is locate a distributor of RC, negotiate a price percentage over cost, and have them direct ship from their warehouse. That way, the distro will know exacting how many confirmed sales they will have, and since they are a distributor, they get great prices for more quantity ordered from the manu.
Think of this like not ordering directly from GM Hummer to get your H3. You had to go through a distro for them to get one.

Since the Rancho lift had a block drop for the torsion bar, I wonder that kind of link RC has for their torsion bar setup. I'd really like to see a less drop bracket for the lower control arms, longer lower control arms with coil-over shock. This would rid the torsion all together. To add, the angle which the coil-over is set, the coil could have a high spring rate, thus lesson the effects of sidehilling. To match the 'coil' configuration, replace the rear leaf with a Tahoe-like link system and coils.

[NEOCON1]

well thinking i will do wheels and 35's now and wait to see when lift comes available .

[Operator24]

What sort of gearing would 37's need to feel like a factory rig concerning power? 5.13s?

Has anyone else regeared their ride?

[Operator24]

Another question to throw out there...

I'm trying to figure out if you'd have to change the locker out for one that accepts a higher ratio gear OR if you're currently forced to get a set of "thick gears" made (maybe some already exist?) to regear an H3.

Is the rear locker in the 10 bolt rear axle an EATON model of the elocker? I could look up the model and see where the carrier gear break is and figure this out if I knew the model rear locker thats in the H3s?

[Ted]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HUMMER NUT:
I just came back from a Lift shop. They suggested that if I use this lift, to re-gear my rear axle. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Don't forget the front diff.

[Ted]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Operator24:
What sort of gearing would 37's need to feel like a factory rig concerning power? 5.13s?

Has anyone else regeared their ride? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Google is your friend.

http://www.4lo.com/calc/geartire.htm

[Operator24]

LOL... oh please those "calculators" aren't very good. They don't take into account all the things that matter when you regear. Its more than just making up for tire size. If you're running a really heavy tire/wheel combo, you should be thinking about that when you regear. If you're a stick or an auto, that comes into play. I'll even argue that you may consider different gears than what a calculator like that suggests depending simply on where you drive most(freeway, mountain roads, or is the rig strictly for offroad?)

If you're doing more freeway driving than anything, you'll want to stick closer to a stock gear so you have a full range of speed. A 4.10 gear you might be able to top out at 120 on a freeway. WIth a 5.13 you might only see 80 as a top speed thats physically possible!

I don't see where you plug that in on the calculator?

[Ted]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Operator24:
LOL... oh please those "calculators" aren't very good. They don't take into account all the things that matter when you regear. Its more than just making up for tire size. If you're running a really heavy tire/wheel combo, you should be thinking about that when you regear. If you're a stick or an auto, that comes into play. I'll even argue that you may consider different gears than what a calculator like that suggests depending simply on where you drive most(freeway, mountain roads, or is the rig strictly for offroad?)

If you're doing more freeway driving than anything, you'll want to stick closer to a stock gear so you have a full range of speed. A 4.10 gear you might be able to top out at 120 on a freeway. WIth a 5.13 you might only see 80 as a top speed thats physically possible!

I don't see where you plug that in on the calculator? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hope your find your "thick gears".

[Operator24]

Ted,

I don't follow?

"Thick gears" are already made for jeep rubicon axles (D44) as a way to get around replacing the carrier/locker/LSD when you go to a lower ratio like 4.88 or 5.13. A lot of people didn't want to remove the factor air lockers in rubicons so companies like Alloy, Yukon, and I think Superior are all making 4.88s and 5.13s that are just thicker so you can use your stock locker.

Seems to me like it would nice to regear your H3 and keep the factory electric locker in the back... a thick gear would make that possible.

[hmer]

why can it be like this out of the factory http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[GreenH3]

I would like to see a shot of that RC H3 parked next to an H2... or better yet, a Jeep Commander. LMFAO

[NoMoGMPG]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Operator24:
Another question to throw out there...

I'm trying to figure out if you'd have to change the locker out for one that accepts a higher ratio gear OR if you're currently forced to get a set of "thick gears" made (maybe some already exist?) to regear an H3.

Is the rear locker in the 10 bolt rear axle an EATON model of the elocker? I could look up the model and see where the carrier gear break is and figure this out if I knew the model rear locker thats in the H3s? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The differential is a newer variant of the Eaton 10 bolt. It doesn't use legacy gear dimensions.

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMPartsGuy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Operator24:
Another question to throw out there...

I'm trying to figure out if you'd have to change the locker out for one that accepts a higher ratio gear OR if you're currently forced to get a set of "thick gears" made (maybe some already exist?) to regear an H3.

Is the rear locker in the 10 bolt rear axle an EATON model of the elocker? I could look up the model and see where the carrier gear break is and figure this out if I knew the model rear locker thats in the H3s? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The differential is a newer variant of the Eaton 10 bolt. It doesn't use legacy gear dimensions. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So, what about adding a front E locker?

[nmikes]

Also about the front locker... will the half shafts be strong enough for this mod? Also nice winch setup... read up on that winch and they say its submergible... very cool.

[UNOMYFLO]

Hey a quick question is the 2 grand cost quote with rear add-a-leavea or the new rear leaf spring packs?
I would definately stay away rom the add-a-leaves...


let me know

thnx.

[Anonymous]

And my question is do you retain the stock shocks, and if not are they included in the price?

[Nefarious]

I know this is an old topic, but I see the kits still aren't released for sale from their site yet. The yellow H3 is a monster!

[darebren]

What i wonder is if you can carry a 37", heck, even a 35" spare tire on the rear mount? seems it would hit the bumper and not fit in the mount??

[H3HUMMER]

Looks great what about the motor any upgrades to that for those tires.

[Nefarious]

What i wonder is if you can carry a 37", heck, even a 35" spare tire on the rear mount? seems it would hit the bumper and not fit in the mount??

They have one on it in this pic. No telling if it was modifed or not, but here's the pic.

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/8094/pictures0036iw.jpg

[Sewie]

What i wonder is if you can carry a 37", heck, even a 35" spare tire on the rear mount? seems it would hit the bumper and not fit in the mount??

35's fit on the rear carrier no problem. Don't have my truck so can't look to see if 37's would fit w/o moving the mount.

[Nefarious]

35's fit on the rear carrier no problem. Don't have my truck so can't look to see if 37's would fit w/o moving the mount.

I came across the ebay link for the yellow h3 with the 37" wheels and it stated that they had to add a special bracket to the original carrier to get the 37" on it. It looks like 35's are the biggest the stock carrier can handle.

[H3HUMMER]

Just think all that weight of that tire on that back door.

[wpage]

Other spoke to the Speed/Odometer effect on wheel packages. Is there a fix as you upgrade to larger dimensions?:popcorn:

[jp's-h3]

Sweet!
But, is it for looks? how does this lift perform off road?

[H3 Hummer]

Sweet!
But, is it for looks? how does this lift perform off road?
The truck CLEARED THE H1 side of out track!! the H2's cant even make it over that!!!

That above is from earlier.

[Desert Dan]

I like the winch mount.

I wonder how the I 5 and front diff handle the 37's?

[reddevil]

I'M TOTALLY IN!!!!!!!!! THATS LOOKS INCREDIBLE!!!!

[cestwick]

The truck CLEARED THE H1 side of out track!! the H2's cant even make it over that!!!

That above is from earlier.

I have personally driven a stock H2 and my H3 over the "H1" wall at our dealership. just have to pick the right line.

[The Green Lantern]

BTT


:giggling:

[Badace]

Any updates on this lift? They show it is still unavailable. Any other lefts to consider?

[hilljob]

that is sick

[jeepeaterh3]

anyone know how he fit the 37" tire on the spare. i just got 37" tires and want mine back there.

[Big Dad]

anyone know how he fit the 37" tire on the spare. i just got 37" tires and want mine back there.

Give em a call and let us know.

[xavierswan]

I just called the company and they told me they will not make the kit. They stopped this kit about a year and a half ago. I really wanted it but I guess I am going with the rancho kit... :(

[Crash ?]

Well.. It's finally for sale if someone's interested..

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=260167120&dealer_id=63957337&ct=p