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PARAGON
05-12-2006, 07:31 PM
It's official now and has been publicly announced.
DETROIT - If you want a big Hummer, you?d better get it now.
The 2006 model year will be the last for the H-1, the hulking, gas-guzzling status symbol that has attracted celebrities and off-road enthusiasts but has drawn the ire of environmentalists.
General Motors says it will no longer make the H-1, based on the military?s Humvee. It?s the foundation for the automaker?s Hummer brand, but GM expects it will build the last one next month.
The H-1 has attracted well-heeled drivers looking for a military-style vehicle with an intimidating stance. For the 2006 model year, the H-1 was offered as a high-performance H-1 Alpha that costs between $130,000 and $140,000.
Hummer general manager Martin Walsh says Hummer plans to focus on models with broader appeal instead of the niche-market H-1.
Since taking over the Hummer name in 2000, GM has introduced the still-hefty H-2 and a midsize H-2 sport utility vehicle.
PARAGON
05-12-2006, 07:39 PM
Hulking Hummer H1 headed for end of the road
http://www.indystar.com/graphics/clear.gif
Associated Press
DETROIT -- The 2006 model year will be the last for the Indiana-built Hummer H1, the hulking, gas-guzzling status symbol that has attracted celebrities and off-road enthusiasts but has drawn the ire of environmentalists.
http://www.indystar.com/graphics/clear.gifhttp://www.indystar.com/graphics/clear.gifGeneral Motors Corp. announced plans today for the H1, which is the foundation for the automaker's Hummer brand. Based on the military's Humvee, the about 12,000 put on the road since 1992 defined the Hummer name.
"It's a reflection of where we're going with the Hummer brand," Hummer general manager Martin Walsh said of the decision. "The Hummer DNA still resides in the Humvee. ... It will always be the core from where we come."
GM expects the last H1s to be built next month.
Walsh said Hummer plans to focus on models with broader appeal instead of the niche-market H1. Since taking over the Hummer name in 2000, GM has introduced the still hefty H2 and a midsize H3 sport utility vehicle.
The H1 gets about 10 miles per gallon, but Walsh said rising gas prices didn't factor into GM's decision. He noted that H1 buyers typically have been less sensitive about gas prices than most other drivers.
The H1 attracted well-heeled drivers looking for a military-style vehicle with an intimidating stance. For the 2006 model year, the H1 was offered as a high-performance H1 Alpha that costs about $130,000 to $140,000.
The vehicle first was marketed to the public as the Hummer in 1992 by AM General, which also makes the military version. Under a 1999 deal, GM bought marketing rights to the Hummer name and called the vehicle the Hummer H1.
Last year, GM sold 374 H1s, down 16 percent from 447 in 2004.
AM General, which builds the H1, H2 and Humvee in Mishawaka, Ind., said in a statement that it doesn't plan to cut any jobs as a result of the decision. GM said workers there were expected to be shifted to military production.
Sad :(. I suppose this is going to result in higher prices in the used H1 market as well as higher maintenance costs due to dwindling supply of parts.
H2Oguy
05-12-2006, 07:56 PM
I guess my goal of getting a new one in 07 is out of the question now
SHOOT! :( I was hoping to get a new one someday. I wish they'd drop the price a little to get rid of inventory.
I guess we should have seen this coming... Well, so much for getting one. They'll be investments now.
PARAGON
05-12-2006, 08:16 PM
You may find a new '06 still on the lot in '07 ;) or '08. Some dealers might "add value" to some to gouge those that's willing to pay whatever.
Bishop
05-12-2006, 08:23 PM
This can't be good to the overall Hummer name.......:(
I saw the press speculating on this a few weeks ago, but didn't think they'd be dropping the H1 this quick. I thought they'd keep it as the flag ship Hummer.
X2, so did I. How many Maybach's are sold each year?:(
Maybe we'll get lucky and the H1 will actually drop in price if interest is low (which current sales might show). So in the next five years, you might be able to pick them up cheaply, and then I suppose after that they may start to appreciate in value. Hard to say though.
Perhaps GM will release a new H1 in 2010 area, and make the next H2 a little cheaper, maybe around $45,000 starting price. Then they could place an H1 at $60,000 where it might be more appealing price wise. The only problem: What platform would GM build the H1 on? I think it would be hard to retain it's off-road prowess on most platforms. I suspect though that something will fill the H1 slot eventually. It would seem odd to leave that flagship spot open. However, the platform will have to be something shared with GM I suspect, otherwise design and production would be too expensive to make a profit....
That's just my theory.
vador99
05-12-2006, 09:43 PM
WHATTTTTTTTTTTT!
DAMN!!!!!:mad: Doesn't make since, even if the numbers have declined some. They are still moving and with that kind of a price tag, its not an everyday purchase!
trashguy
05-12-2006, 09:59 PM
that really dosent make sense,oh well i guess we own the "Big" hummers now;)
MovinH2
05-13-2006, 12:25 AM
That sucks. Stupid tree huggers. :( :(
Andy C
05-13-2006, 01:56 PM
Whooo hoooo - bought one just in time :) :) :) :)
GeneseeMtn
05-13-2006, 05:09 PM
Whooo hoooo - bought one just in time :) :) :) :)
I owned a LR D-90 when Land Rover discontinued importing them. They went up ~$5k in a very short time & kept creeping up from there. Even 10 years later, they still sell for more than the original sticker price. The latter year production in stock condition still fetch the highest price.
I imagine the H1 story will be the same. Snatch them up while you can. Lower cost used H1's will be a thing of the past very soon. If I had a dealership, I'd raise the $140k sticker priced ALPHA H1 (that I would have sold for $115k yesterday) to at least $150k today.
HummBebe
05-13-2006, 05:15 PM
This is very sad. The H1 one is the sole reason for the existence of the H2 and H3:(
It's kind of like losing your Grandpa.:(:(:(
DRTYFN
05-13-2006, 05:16 PM
This is very sad. The H1 one is the sole reason for the existence of the H2 and H3:(
It's kind of like losing your Grandpa.:(:(:(
Or your obese cousin.:D
Or your obese cousin.:D
Hahahaha.:o
I owned a LR D-90 when Land Rover discontinued importing them. They went up ~$5k in a very short time & kept creeping up from there. Even 10 years later, they still sell for more than the original sticker price. The latter year production in stock condition still fetch the highest price.
I imagine the H1 story will be the same. Snatch them up while you can. Lower cost used H1's will be a thing of the past very soon. If I had a dealership, I'd raise the $140k sticker priced ALPHA H1 (that I would have sold for $115k yesterday) to at least $150k today.
Personally, I think this is what we can begin to expect in the short term...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-Hummer-H1-ALPHA-Z9163-NEW-CONDITION-ONE-OWNER_W0QQitemZ4640055609QQcategoryZ5360QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-Hummer-H1-not-H2-or-H3-Soft-Top-MUST-SEE-HUGE-NEW_W0QQitemZ4637975924QQcategoryZ5360QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem
Longhorn
05-14-2006, 09:31 PM
Damn! Now the Duramax versions are going to become really tough to come by.
I'm disappointed Hummer didn't keep the H1 around just for branding and nostalgia.:mad: GM is losing $ like crazy anyway.
Longhorn
05-14-2006, 11:15 PM
One last photo. We'll miss you big guy!:(:(:(
MDimitri
05-15-2006, 02:59 PM
Or your obese cousin.:D
Damn...that was my absolute all time favorite vehicle...loved it from the first time I saw it...albeit, this could be a fancy pull the wool over your eyes marketing ploy....create a demand, force market prices higher, wet peoples appetites come out with a ass kicking new version of the H1. Why the heck would GM put all that cash into developing the H1 Alpha (OMG What a awsome truck), just to pull the plug on the entire line??? Well they sure will be now focusing on the H2's alot more as being their next top of the line vehicle, I've heard of the H2 Alpha being a real possibility and an H3 version not far behind. Maybe the H2's will start going back up in price!!
Hey GM guy's, stop production on the H2's! Muhahahahahahahaa!!! :D
Adam in CO
05-15-2006, 03:49 PM
The bad news is that GM will only have parts and service for 7 years after they stop production. An H1 is the kind of vehicle you would hold on to for a while, especially if the discontinue it. I would want to know about other parts/service resources before pulling the trigger to buy one now.
ckhagman
05-15-2006, 03:57 PM
MB did it with the Galandewagen then decided to still sell it after people complained.
ckhagman
05-15-2006, 03:58 PM
The bad news is that GM will only have parts and service for 7 years after they stop production. An H1 is the kind of vehicle you would hold on to for a while, especially if the discontinue it. I would want to know about other parts/service resources before pulling the trigger to buy one now.
Parts are easliy available through other means. Most parts are off the shelf. Now interior parts are a whole other thought. The arm rests are jeep though.
The bad news is that GM will only have parts and service for 7 years after they stop production. An H1 is the kind of vehicle you would hold on to for a while, especially if the discontinue it. I would want to know about other parts/service resources before pulling the trigger to buy one now.
If I were to buy one now, I'd probably get a few parts like:
Drivers seat and armrest
Heavily used switches (windows, locks, etc)
2 door handles
Maybe a new open top roof for those models
Anyone think of something else?
ckhagman
05-15-2006, 05:58 PM
Unless you are buying an 04 or 06 model your local friendly jeep dealer would have arm rests. The seats are made by isrihausen (sp?). Inside and outside door handles are probably available from a trucking supply house. I hummer top yup I would probably buy one of them. Switches I bet could be had with no problem.
If AM General continues to build fleet trucks like the Border Patrol then a lot of stuff that does not include creature comforts wouldn't/shouldn't be a problem. Mirrors, although small you could buy from your jeep dealer but they were the non powered ones.
Aubs if you really want an H1, I might be selling mine.
Yeah, mirrors might be good. I think a Key Fob would be a good idea too.
MovinH2
05-15-2006, 07:55 PM
Yeah, mirrors might be good. I think a Key Fob would be a good idea too.
Key Fob would be awesome.
Alan06SUT
05-16-2006, 04:34 AM
This is really bad news IMO. Why stop production? Unless they are quitting the military versions as well, I dont see the logic. It can't cost them much to keep dressing a few up for civilian use? They already spent the cash to figure out how to get the duramax/allison in there, they may as well get a return on that investment even if they sell just 300 a year? WTF?
This is really bad news IMO. Why stop production? Unless they are quitting the military versions as well, I dont see the logic. It can't cost them much to keep dressing a few up for civilian use? They already spent the cash to figure out how to get the duramax/allison in there, they may as well get a return on that investment even if they sell just 300 a year? WTF?
X2 Alan! My thoughts exactly...I mean they are moving 400+/- units a year in a high end specialty market. They are not going to ever move thousands of units in that market nor is any other manufacturer. I think its completely asnine to kill it and a huge mistake on GM's part.
GeneseeMtn
05-16-2006, 05:53 AM
The bad news is that GM will only have parts and service for 7 years after they stop production. An H1 is the kind of vehicle you would hold on to for a while, especially if the discontinue it. I would want to know about other parts/service resources before pulling the trigger to buy one now.
Adam - The good news is that back in 1979 during HMMWV production, the AMG engineers put together the HMMWV with a bunch of "mostly" american produced parts. The H1 is a "mutt" of sorts, made of parts readily available from many manufacturers. For instance...
Tranny...GM 4L80E
Engine...GM (the 6.5 td is on of the most mass prouced diesel engines ever)
Steering...Saginaw box (common on many RV's) FORD steering column
Transfer Case...New Process 242 (common amongst 90's 4x4)
Door Handles...Early Jeep Cherokee
Brake rotors/pads/calipers...AMC Eagle Wagon
Hood/Body& entire driveline...HMMWV mil. surplus (except doors)
Soft Top (GMA Cover or BesTop are mfr.'s)
Fuel Delivery...Stanadyne
CTIS...parts at most hardware stores
The full parts reference has been documented on www.amghummer.com (http://www.amghummer.com)
I'd guess the tough parts after 10 years will be the H1 specific interior parts (already have been discontinued in the tan/brown color). That's really the only part that AMG makes specific to the H1 that is not available on the HMMWV or made by another manufacturer or two.
CO Hummer
05-16-2006, 02:04 PM
Gee.....If they stop making the H1s, then it's going to get costly to maintain them. :D
PARAGON
05-16-2006, 03:16 PM
Adam - The good news is that back in 1979 during HMMWV production, the AMG engineers put together the HMMWV with a bunch of "mostly" american produced parts. The H1 is a "mutt" of sorts, made of parts readily available from many manufacturers. For instance...
Tranny...GM 4L80E
Engine...GM (the 6.5 td is on of the most mass prouced diesel engines ever)
Steering...Saginaw box (common on many RV's) FORD steering column
Transfer Case...New Process 242 (common amongst 90's 4x4)
Door Handles...Early Jeep Cherokee
Brake rotors/pads/calipers...AMC Eagle Wagon
Hood/Body& entire driveline...HMMWV mil. surplus (except doors)
Soft Top (GMA Cover or BesTop are mfr.'s)
Fuel Delivery...Stanadyne
CTIS...parts at most hardware stores
The full parts reference has been documented on www.amghummer.com (http://www.amghummer.com)
I'd guess the tough parts after 10 years will be the H1 specific interior parts (already have been discontinued in the tan/brown color). That's really the only part that AMG makes specific to the H1 that is not available on the HMMWV or made by another manufacturer or two.I could SSOOOOO!!!!!! make some joke comments about the H1 in reference to how we H2 owners were received by the H1 crowd 3 years ago. About the rebodied Tahoe comments that were constantly made by the ignorant ones. I could say stuff again about the mixmaster manner in which the H1 has been built.
But I won't, suffice to say.... it'll be serviceable for years to come. I'm betting the internation HMMWV market will make parts readily available for years and years to come. Conversion companies reproducing H1 type components for overseas markets should keep a lot of things available.
CO Hummer
05-16-2006, 04:01 PM
You mean it's cheap now :rolleyes: ;)
Sarcasm, my friend. ;)
CO Hummer
05-16-2006, 05:11 PM
Nothing worse than having an obsolete vehicle with no flex that is too wide for the trails and gets passed by H2's all day long, to only find it costs you a fortune to keep it running between breakdowns ;) :D :D
:D :D
But now that they're obsolete, you'll probably be able to pick one up for $15K.
Very true :D
Seems a lot of people think they will double in value, but I suspect that is wishful thinking. I really don't think the number of people wanting to buy an H1 will increase that much, so in theory if the demand doesn't change significantly, prices should stay about the same.
Hey, isn't that what I said? :p
Or even an Italian alternative;
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product.php?prodID=1594
I'm sure there's a few more also.That Panther is pretty cool.
And it comes with this:
MarineHawk
05-17-2006, 08:12 PM
You could always buy the Chinese version;
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product.php?prodID=2681 (http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product.php?prodID=2681)
or even the Swiss version;
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product.php?prodID=2135
Interesting how the Swiss version is "based on the US AM General High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV) chassis," but has a solid front axle.
MarineHawk
05-17-2006, 08:15 PM
You could always buy the Chinese version;
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product.php?prodID=2681 (http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product.php?prodID=2681)
or even the Swiss version;
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product.php?prodID=2135
I assume the weight ot the Swiss was is mistakenly reported in kilos instead of pounds. It can't be 7,600 kg = 16,720 pounds.
H2 Ranger
05-17-2006, 08:25 PM
How about the new MK47? :D
Hi-Mobility
05-18-2006, 02:39 AM
Do you actually have any H1 experience? Your post sounds like you haven't done any real wheel'in with an experienced H1 driver.
I just like re-stating the obvious. Nothing worse than having an obsolete vehicle with no flex that is too wide for the trails and gets passed by H2's all day long, to only find it costs you a fortune to keep it running between breakdowns ;) :D :D[/QUOTE]
GeneseeMtn
05-18-2006, 11:01 PM
GM's "H1 ALPHA" will cease to be produced. The AM General original "HUMMER" will continue to be produced & sold by AM General.
I drive a civilian variant HMMWV manufactured by AM General that has nothing to do with General Motors! Kill the H1. Long live the AM GENERAL HUMMER.
It's official now and has been publicly announced.
DETROIT - If you want a big Hummer, you?d better get it now.
The 2006 model year will be the last for the H-1, the hulking, gas-guzzling status symbol that has attracted celebrities and off-road enthusiasts but has drawn the ire of environmentalists.
General Motors says it will no longer make the H-1, based on the military?s Humvee. It?s the foundation for the automaker?s Hummer brand, but GM expects it will build the last one next month.
The H-1 has attracted well-heeled drivers looking for a military-style vehicle with an intimidating stance. For the 2006 model year, the H-1 was offered as a high-performance H-1 Alpha that costs between $130,000 and $140,000.
Hummer general manager Martin Walsh says Hummer plans to focus on models with broader appeal instead of the niche-market H-1.
Since taking over the Hummer name in 2000, GM has introduced the still-hefty H-2 and a midsize H-2 sport utility vehicle.
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