HIHUMMER = HUMMERLESS after Paragon/RauchCreek

[HIHUMMER]

Okay...let the story of my drama H3 continue....

Started driving home Tuesday from Paragon. Got the speed up to around 60mpg and there was a gawd awful noise and vibration. Called my local dealer who informed me to contact Onstar to find the nearest Hummer dealership....which ended up being in Allentown PA...an hour east of where I was. So....head to Scott Hummer in Allentown. They pull my truck in thinking perhaps the problem was a U-Joint or a Wheel Bearing.

First thing they do is rotate and balance my tires..."just to rule out".
Of course...that didn't fix the problem. So about 4hours later they tell me....are you ready for this....MY REAR DIFFERENTIAL "was shot". (keep in mind I just had the front replaced 3 weeks ago and from that, I now have a front axle seal leak that was to be corrected).

The Service Manager at Scott Hummer tells me that they have replace about 4 early build date H3's rear diff. GM has told them that "they have found a containment/chemical of some kind in the differential housing that cause the breakdown of the internal parts. No point in replacing the internal parts, b/c the breakdown will happen again. So instead we have to replace the whole differential...meaning completely everything except the wheels. This will take about 7days". (just glad it didn't have anything to do with my "sassy wheeling skills". ;) )

Thanks so much to HiMobility and his family for opening up their home and allowing a "slummer" to stay there. :p :D

So....left my poor H3 in Allentown, PA...with hopes that it will be shipped to my local dealer in about 1 week. I've contact Hummer and my "case" has been escalated beyond customer service to a "case manager". Time to play hard ball. :mad:

I just got home tonight around 6ish. 10hour drive is never too much fun.

BEWARE those with the early build dates.....your break down of the rear diff. maybe be happening soon.:(

[NEOCON1]

hey hi , sounds like yours had the flashing compound issue . no rear end howl up to this point for you ? i think most occured with lower mileage . F5 can fill you in much better than i can about this issue :cool: sorry to hear of your misfortune , they will get you back together and it will be better than new . welcome to the early build club . :p you , bebe , sewie , and i , plus a few others ;)



maybe you T&Aers just wheel to hard :eek: :D

[ETD]

Ok. Now I'm paranoid. What exactly does "early build" mean? :eek:

[deserth3]

Sorry to hear about your baby. Makes me wish I had paid more attention to when mine was built. Though I'm pretty sure it was early this year.

[NEOCON1]

well bebe and i had our trucks built within 200 of each other and we broke within 5 feet of each other :D send your vin to F5 in a PM , he knows wazup ;) :cool:

[StarsnBars]

GULP:( :( I got mine last August. So far only 1 broke rear leaf spring. Keep us informed HIHUMMER

[westhillsat]

Sorry to hear about your truck HI :(

Glad mine was made the week before xmas. :)

[MarineHawk]

Goldilocks:
Your H3 diffs are too small;
Hi-Mo's fire-breathing brakeless H1 is too big;
Time to try the one that's just right - H2 ;)
Brakes; diffs, they've got it all (excepting the tie rods).:D

Just kidding.:D

Sorry about the road-trip difficulties Hi. I bet he was tired. However, isn't this the perfect opportunity to get a locking rear diff for the Sass-mobile???

[CO Hummer]

Ok. Now I'm paranoid. What exactly does "early build" mean? :eek:

I think it means "if your H3 was built between Jan 2004 and June 2006". :D

[HummBebe]

That's not nice CO :D

It means your were the first 800-1000 H3's produced.

Sorry to hear about that Hi-Honey. What a bummer. It is going to be covered under warranty, right???

[The Green Lantern]

That's not nice CO :D

It means your were the first 800-1000 H3's produced.



Where can I find that info? Vin#...

[CO Hummer]

It is going to be covered under warranty, right???

I think the H3 warranty fund has a junk bond rating now.

[wannabeH3]

thats pretty gay. mine blew the transfer case on a road trip to cali from washington. whats up with this expensive hardware we got? if that **** blows up on the trail and im with my jeep buddies i will be severly angry

[MarineHawk]

I think it means "if your H3 was built between Jan 2004 and June 2006". :D

LMAO:D

[HummBebe]

I think the H3 warranty fund has a junk bond rating now.


Wery funnie:D

I bet GM is schweating bullits:mad:

[blindzebra]

does this mean we're not wheeling, like soon??? *tear*

[f5fstop]

AAM produced some axles, prior to Aug. '05 that had lapping compound left on the gearset. Usually, within 3-5K miles, the axle would be too loud to be drowned out by a Monsoon system. :D Some happened with earlier mileage, some after 5K; depending on the amount of lapping compound.
As the gearset wears, it can cause some vibration problems.
AAM foots the bill for this repair, which is a quick swap of the axle. Easy diagnosis, pull the cover and see if there is sandy substance floating in the lube.
I would have thought most are replaced, but evidently there are a few out there that are still with low mileage or with small amounts of compound.

[HIHUMMER]

FYI on the mileage...don't get past 3-5k and think you are okay. My front diff. went out around 19k and I'm at 21k now w/ the rear. Yes....I drive...a lot....:)

[HIHUMMER]

Goldilocks:
However, isn't this the perfect opportunity to get a locking rear diff for the Sass-mobile???

My thoughts exactly. A sunroof would be nice as well. :D

[HIHUMMER]

does this mean we're not wheeling, like soon??? *tear*

Keep the hope alive!!! We will go soon.....promise!:D

[Dan Rather]

So, you blew another diff. At least it wasn't another guy this time.

[usetosellhummer]

0h man you know it's bad when the H2 owners come in to dis the H3 owners. Oh should I remind you about the first build H2's that had cracked front diffs???? hmmmm (crickets) Or shall we discuss the wireing isssue with trailers and off road lights....:eek:

[NoMoGMPG]

Goldilocks:
Your H3 diffs are too small;
Hi-Mo's fire-breathing brakeless H1 is too big;
Time to try the one that's just right - H2 ;)
Brakes; diffs, they've got it all (excepting the tie rods).:D

Just kidding.:D

Sorry about the road-trip difficulties Hi. I bet he was tired. However, isn't this the perfect opportunity to get a locking rear diff for the Sass-mobile???


Just wondering...who is "Hi-Mo" and why is the H1 brakeless?:confused:

[HummBebe]

Master Sensei,

Please read this thread:

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17132&page=4


signed,
your Grasshopper :D

[ckhagman]

Just wondering...who is "Hi-Mo" and why is the H1 brakeless?:confused:

Scott Freeman. Brakes? not sure but I missed the trip.

[Mike B]

HI, Hope you get your rig back soon. Let me know when you'll be in Raleigh again.

[MarineHawk]

Just wondering...who is "Hi-Mo" and why is the H1 brakeless?:confused:

Hi-Mo is Hi-Mobility. Had a little brake problem on the H1. He's the best trail guide in the Western Hemisphere.

[f5fstop]

FYI on the mileage...don't get past 3-5k and think you are okay. My front diff. went out around 19k and I'm at 21k now w/ the rear. Yes....I drive...a lot....:)

You're saying you were able to go 21K with the lapping compound problem?:eek:
Oh, and the reason they are replacing the entire diff is that is the only way it is serviced at this time, AAM/GM does not service the gearset. But I'm confused as to why they would also service the drive axles.

[HIHUMMER]

You're saying you were able to go 21K with the lapping compound problem?:eek:
Oh, and the reason they are replacing the entire diff is that is the only way it is serviced at this time, AAM/GM does not service the gearset. But I'm confused as to why they would also service the drive axles.

Yup F5, that's what I'm saying...:p

I talked w/ my service manager at my local dealer and he said that there are several new bullentins out on the H3...from things like the water leaking in from the sunroof to battery drain to the transfer case.....:mad:

Hummer had told me that they are looking into if this would be a severe enough case to give me another H3. Got to get the appropriate hands in the pot first.

Oh yea...their little 24hour response time isn't completely accurate either.:mad:

Thanks to Hi-MO and his wife for calling and bustin my chops over how lonely my little H3 looks in the parking lot of the dealer...off to the side all by itself. :(

[Slammed Vette]

GM had a similar problem on the vettes(not mine).The rear ends were made with a pourous material and the fluid in the rears would slowly leak out through the metal.Haven't had a problem with my H3 as of yet!!!!

[f5fstop]

Yup F5, that's what I'm saying...:p

I talked w/ my service manager at my local dealer and he said that there are several new bullentins out on the H3...from things like the water leaking in from the sunroof to battery drain to the transfer case.....:mad:

Hummer had told me that they are looking into if this would be a severe enough case to give me another H3. Got to get the appropriate hands in the pot first.

Oh yea...their little 24hour response time isn't completely accurate either.:mad:

Thanks to Hi-MO and his wife for calling and bustin my chops over how lonely my little H3 looks in the parking lot of the dealer...off to the side all by itself. :(

There are no bulletins for sunroof leaks, there is a new bulletin just issued in regard to the rattle, and that is a quick easy fix. I can find some service manual update bulletins, but that does not mean there is a problem, that means the original procedure was incorrect, and the techs were having problems repairing items.
There is some preliminary information posted on the T/case, as well as the very early fill procedure check.
Only thing I see about batteries is the covers are now released for service, and to make sure you confirm the battery is dead before replacement under warranty.
Theses are all checks done on the GM-Dealerworld site, that is updated DAILY by GM with all bulletins, preliminary info notices and service procedures. So, I'm not too sure where your service manager is obtaining his information.
Sorry to hear about all the trouble you have had with your H3, and I'm just pointing out the reason they are installing your entire new diff, and would question why they have to install shafts, unless the splines were destroyed, and if they were, then the shafts do need replacement.
Hopefully Hummer will work something out with you.
Good luck....

[HummerNewbie]

Hummer had told me that they are looking into if this would be a severe enough case to give me another H3.

Hey, if they do give you a new one you can get the right color this time, Slate Blue :D ;)

[Ipedog]

Quote:
Originally Posted by HIHUMMER
Hummer had told me that they are looking into if this would be a severe enough case to give me another H3.


Hey, if they do give you a new one you can get the right color this time, Slate Blue :D ;)


Ummm, Newbie... I think you meant Birch White :rolleyes: :D

Good Luck HI on getting a new one. Hopefully they would be willing to bump you up to an Adventure! :cool:

[TheArchiTexan]

yellow is tacky, please get another color. Sh8t is straigh gheyyy

[HIHUMMER]

yellow is tacky, please get another color. Sh8t is straigh gheyyy

If getting yellow means that it will piss you off....then I'd still get yellow.:rolleyes:

[ROX]

Sorry to hear about your rig, HI. I hope it gets fixed soon! Getting a new one would be cool, be sure it's blue, kthanx.:)

[HummerNewbie]

Getting a new one would be cool, be sure it's blue, kthanx.:)

Exactly :D

[PARAGON]

yellow is tacky, please get another color. Sh8t is straigh gheyyyScions are what's tacky

[h2co-pilot]

0h man you know it's bad when the H2 owners come in to dis the H3 owners. Oh should I remind you about the first build H2's that had cracked front diffs???? hmmmm (crickets) Or shall we discuss the wireing isssue with trailers and off road lights....:eek:

What are you talking about? I didn't see any dissing in this thread.

[h2co-pilot]

Scions are what's tacky

Ooopsie :eek: :D

[RIC-H0]

Hope you get your baby back with a few new toys added.
While they have your rear end off, have them install one with a rear locker, and while it's on the lift, have them install your complimentary UCP!:D
I think P-Man needs a monsoon system for his DVD set up too!;)

[DRTYFN]

Scions are what's tacky No self-respecting heterosexual male that stands up to pee would be caught dead in one of those cat boxes.

[thedieter]

Once you have had Yellow, nothing else will do.:D

Best regards, Happy Jack

[Connie_Chung]

Once you have had Yellow, nothing else will do.:D


Although true, I resent this remark.

[Dan Rather]

Once you have had Yellow, nothing else will do the special hand trick on your wang or your laundry or your cleaning or...
.:D



Amended

[DDWH]

Originally Posted by HIHUMMER
Hummer had told me that they are looking into if this would be a severe enough case to give me another H3.


Hey, if they do give you a new one you can get the right color this time, Slate Blue :D ;)

Ummm, Newbie... I think you meant Birch White :rolleyes: :D

Boulder Grey Adventure/Lux with black/morocco and a sunroof!:cool:

[NoMoGMPG]

Master Sensei,

Please read this thread:

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17132&page=4


signed,
your Grasshopper :D

Ah so, I see...Hi-Mobility=Hi-Mo :D

[thedieter]

Oops! :o I was thinking about the LPM (looks per mile) and the fun factor of yellow. We were looking for a gray or red H3 but could only find a yellow one equipped the way we wanted it, except didn't want chrome. Now we are glad that we got yellow with chrome.

Best regards, Happy Jack

[usetosellhummer]

Could be tech flashes, I thought they had a place outside of GM Dealerworld for info on problems.

[f5fstop]

Could be tech flashes, I thought they had a place outside of GM Dealerworld for info on problems.

They do, but not updated as quickly. GM's electronic service information is updated with daily feeds, and these same feeds are sent to places like NHTSA, but NHTSA does not update the information as fast. I'm going to guess, they are 2-4 weeks behind. GM's eSI is the tech area of GM-Dealerworld.
I believe also Reynolds and Reynolds and Honeywell offer the same info, under license from GM; however, again, they are not as up to date.
Plus, I see all bulletins on these vehicles, prior to being released to the eSI system.:D

[H3OwnerDiz]

Holy crap!! Sorry to hear that HI! Scott Hummer is where I bought mine, it's an hour away from where I live.

[HummerNewbie]

Holy crap!! Sorry to hear that HI! Scott Hummer is where I bought mine, it's an hour away from where I live.

Hey there Diz, how ya been?

[DRTYFN]

So, HI, did the dealership get that mattress installed in the back yet?

[HIHUMMER]

So, HI, did the dealership get that mattress installed in the back yet?

No..not yet...I'm pushing for the waterbed. :rolleyes:
U = sh!t for brains.

[HIHUMMER]

Holy crap!! Sorry to hear that HI! Scott Hummer is where I bought mine, it's an hour away from where I live.

Ah!! I didn't even think to email you!! Damn...sorry girl! :D

[DRTYFN]

No..not yet...I'm pushing for the waterbed. :rolleyes:
U = sh!t for brains.

You = rancid skid-marked flop sweat licker.

[HIHUMMER]

You = rancid skid-marked flop sweat licker.

You = gay.

[ShaggyX]

You = gay.Wow...that was much more creative then what he said. You win. :rolleyes:

[HIHUMMER]

Wow...that was much more creative then what he said. You win. :rolleyes:

Who asked you dick w/ ears?:p ;)

Sorry, I'm not quite as creative w/ the lude insults as DRTY...I'm learning

[DRTYFN]

Who asked you dick w/ ears?:p ;)

Sorry, I'm not quite as creative w/ the lude insults as DRTY...I'm learning
Slut monkey see, slut monkey do. :D

[DRTYFN]

You = gay.
Sssstooop or I'll tell on you.

[HummerNewbie]

Slut monkey see, slut monkey do. :D

Have to say, that was pretty damn funny there :D

Doesn't describe HI, but funny none the less.

[DRTYFN]

Slut monkey see, slut monkey do. :D
Oops... did I say that out loud? ;)

[HummBebe]

Slut monkey see, slut monkey do. :D

Well....isn't that the POT calling the KETTLE BLACK???

**cough**stars**cough**hootersbarfly**cough**:D :D :p ;)

[DRTYFN]

Well....isn't that the POT calling the KETTLE BLACK???

**cough**stars**cough**hootersbarfly**cough**:D :D :p ;)
:p

[usetosellhummer]

That is not gay, thats getting to know someone in hillbilly country.

[NoMoGMPG]

Who asked you dick w/ ears?:p ;)



Ouch! LMFAO!:D

[HummBebe]

In DOG language, the dominant one is the Sniffer, not the Sniffee:D

[DRTYFN]

In DOG language, the dominate one is the Sniffer, not the Sniffee:D
Who said you were sniffing. You were giving me a salad-tossing.:D

[PARAGON]

FYI on the mileage...don't get past 3-5k and think you are okay. My front diff. went out around 19k and I'm at 21k now w/ the rear. Yes....I drive...a lot....:)Ummm..... sorry, but if memory serves me your front diff. DID NOT go out. You had a front axle seal replaced. Huge difference.

Your "look at me, look at me" crap has you fudging on the facts now. :rolleyes:

[Connie_Chung]

My Hummer just exploded! It's covered under warranty, but that's the 7th time I've blown one up!

[HIHUMMER]

Ummm..... sorry, but if memory serves me your front diff. DID NOT go out. You had a front axle seal replaced. Huge difference.

Your "look at me, look at me" crap has you fudging on the facts now. :rolleyes:

Uh..how about I had a front axle seal replaced as well....prior to the front going out. Maybe you should go re-read. :rolleyes:

[PARAGON]

Uh..how about I had a front axle seal replaced as well....prior to the front going out. Maybe you should go re-read. :rolleyes:Re-read what?

If I'm wrong, get one of the techs here or even Fstop to post what you have had done to the truck under warranty through a VIN check.

[HIHUMMER]

Re-read what?

If I'm wrong, get one of the techs here or even Fstop to post what you have had done to the truck under warranty through a VIN check.

WTF??? You trip me out. I go through huge lengths to make this sh!t up. :rolleyes:
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5992

F5....you still have my VIN?....the replacement was done back at the end of April...I would hope it's out there yet.

Guess I have to prove Paragon wrong again just like that whole HumbebeDaddy crap.:rolleyes:

[NoMoGMPG]

WTF??? You trip me out. I go through huge lengths to make this sh!t up. :rolleyes:
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5992

F5....you still have my VIN?....the replacement was done back at the end of April...I would hope it's out there yet.

Guess I have to prove Paragon wrong again just like that whole HumbebeDaddy crap.:rolleyes:

PM me your last 8 of the VIN.

Dave

[PARAGON]

WTF??? You trip me out. I go through huge lengths to make this sh!t up. :rolleyes:
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5992

F5....you still have my VIN?....the replacement was done back at the end of April...I would hope it's out there yet.

Guess I have to prove Paragon wrong again just like that whole HumbebeDaddy crap.:rolleyes:Huge lengths? No. Made it up, well, yeah. Anyone with half a brain would read that thread and wonder what the fck you were on when you tried to slide that BS by.

You were all over the place, ring gear, bearings, second R&P was broke. :rolleyes:

[DRTYFN]

:)

[HummBebe]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/HummBeeBe/Notes.jpg

[Connie_Chung]

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/HummBeeBe/Stuoidpeople.jpg

[f5fstop]

Sorry HI, but the front diff was not replaced, just the seal. In addition, you didn't have the lapping compound problem, or the dealer did the repair incorrectly. With lapping compound, the entire diff housing needs to be replaced, not just the ring/pinion gear.
This is your complete service history, and I don't know of any dealer that would not submit a claim for a front diff replacement.
I do have to say, you had some problems with the radio, can I ask what the problems were?
Also, have to ask about the front crossmember.:D They covered that under warranty? That sounds like that Hummer dealer did you a good turn. Usually body parts like that are not replaced under warranty since not much can happen to them from a warranty standpoint.

Here's the information on the rear axle lapping compound problem, and it states to replace the entire rear diff due to the contamination. "Remove the axle cover pan and inspect for black discolored fluid. The fluid may show sand particles. Closely inspect the inner diameter of the ring gear for clumps of a black sandy residue. This residue is lapping compound that was not sufficiently cleaned from the axle during the manufacturing process. If these conditions are found, the complete axle assembly should be replaced, because all moving parts of the axle will be affected by the lapping compound residue.

Important Note: The lapping compound issue will not be present on vehicles built after August 10, 2005. Rear axle noise conditions on vehicles built after this date should be diagnosed and repaired as needed using procedures found in SI.

Use part number below or any number that these supersede to. The Broadcast Code, HL1 or HL2 for example, can be found in VIS under Vehicle Component.

Description
Broadcast Code
Part Number

Standard Axle Assembly
FD3, HL1, HU5 or JN2
15837002

Electronic Locking Axle Assembly
EX5, FD4, HL2, HU6 or JN3
15837003"


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04/25/2006 414203 # F2383 - RING GEAR AND PINION - REAR DIFFERENTIAL - REPLACE 19285 miles
04/25/2006 414203 # Z5001 - VIP FREIGHT/POSTAGE REIMBURESEMENT 19285 miles
04/25/2006 414203 # E1730 - CROSSMEMBER, FRONT SUSPENSION - REPLACE 19285 miles
04/25/2006 414203 # B4156 - MIRROR, OUTSIDE REAR VIEW - LEFT - REPLACE 19285 miles
04/25/2006 414203 # Z7906 - 6+ DAY COURTESY TRANSPORTATION 19285 miles
02/09/2006 412216 # F1441 - SEALS, FRONT DIFFERENTIAL OUTPUT SHAFT - FRONT - LEFT - RE 12718 miles
02/09/2006 412216 F Z7200 - CORPORATE PARTS RETURN REIMBURSEMENT 12712 miles
02/09/2006 412216 # B0764 - SHIELD AND/OR LINER - FRONT WHEELHOUSE PANEL - RIGHT - REP 12718 miles
02/09/2006 412216 # J9995 - CUSTOMER CONCERN NOT DUPLICATED 12718 miles
01/13/2006 411547 # R0760 - RECEIVER, RADIO - REMOVE, REPAIR, AND REPLACE 12505 miles
01/13/2006 411547 # Y0063 - SB 05115 - CUSTOMER SATISFACTION PROGRAM - REAR WASHER PUM 11144 miles
01/11/2006 410414 # R0754 - RADIO RECEIVER-RETURN TO AC/DELCO ESC 12502 miles
12/01/2005 410414 # B1880 - FENDER, FRONT - RIGHT - ALIGN 8965 miles
12/01/2005 410414 # R0755 - RADIO RECEIVER-RETURN TO AC/DELCO ESC-INCOMPLETE EXCHANGE 8955 miles
06/02/2005 A06478 I Z7000 - PRE-DELIVERY INSPECTION - BASE TIME 0 miles

[f5fstop]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/HummBeeBe/Notes.jpg

The Bunny strikes again....:D

[The Green Lantern]

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/HummBeeBe/Stuoidpeople.jpg


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/HummBeeBe/pig-teeth.jpg

[HIHUMMER]

F5..I don't understand this....

04/25/2006 414203 # F2383 - RING GEAR AND PINION - REAR DIFFERENTIAL - REPLACE 19285 miles


My rear diff is in PA being replaced right now??? At leasts that's what they are telling me....


Ok...so like I said in my thread original I'm still learning what these parts are....so sue me if I mistaken the word "bearing" for "pinion" or whatever. So...they replace my Ring and Pinion in the front differential....? is that right?

[CO Hummer]

220. 221. Whatever it takes....

[f5fstop]

F5..I don't understand this....

04/25/2006 414203 # F2383 - RING GEAR AND PINION - REAR DIFFERENTIAL - REPLACE 19285 miles


My rear diff is in PA being replaced right now??? At leasts that's what they are telling me....


Ok...so like I said in my thread original I'm still learning what these parts are....so sue me if I mistaken the word "bearing" for "pinion" or whatever. So...they replace my Ring and Pinion in the front differential....? is that right?

If the rear diff is being replaced right now, there will be no claim for the replacement, until the job is finished. At which time they will claim the same labor operation number F2383.
If, and I say if because I'm not in the dealer, you had the lapping compound issue and didn't realize it until 19K miles, and the dealer only replaced the ring/pinion set, that could be why your rear diff failed again. If the first rear diff was a complete assembly replaced, the dealer would have claimed F3200 Rear Differential Assembly (Complete) - Replace.
It almost sounds like this is the problem. Maybe with all those new radios you couldn't hear the rear axle whining.:D (Only kidding...)
The only other thing would be if it wasn't the lapping compound problem, the first tech may not have set up the ring/pinion gear correctly, and they failed a few thousand miles later.
To be completely honest to you and everyone else, we DO NOT have a problem with rear diffs; other than the lapping compound issue. The rear diff is strong enough so that if something breaks it is usually the axle shaft (weakest point in the link), versus the front diff. :(

[PARAGON]

F5..I don't understand this....

04/25/2006 414203 # F2383 - RING GEAR AND PINION - REAR DIFFERENTIAL - REPLACE 19285 miles


My rear diff is in PA being replaced right now??? At leasts that's what they are telling me....


Ok...so like I said in my thread original I'm still learning what these parts are....so sue me if I mistaken the word "bearing" for "pinion" or whatever. So...they replace my Ring and Pinion in the front differential....? is that right?No, that's completely wrong. Your REAR diff was replaced on 04/25/2006

Your front diff hasn't been touched. You had a front axle seal replaced and that's about as close to the front diff as it got.

[dеiтайожни]

Ut-Oh HI, your lies have finally caught up with you. I told you this was a bad idea!

[HIHUMMER]

ok..then what the fuk is the sh!t on the bottom of my work order??? I'll scan damn thing and post if you think I made this up as well

19308 *had bad ring and pinion gears* - Test drove had clicking noise, sounded like coming from front diff, remved cover inspected foun no sign of problem reinstalled cover check ed fluid levels in both front and rear diff and transfer case, called tan talked to XXXXXXX said to run rubber hoses from front diff and transer case vents test drive to see if could hear noise found noise coming from front diff (Case #8903956) R&R dfont diff found chips in ring and pinion gears, also found preload on pinion at .008" Replaced ring and pinion gears and bearings and side carrier bearing, set preload to .27 spec .015 to .030 rest back lash to .006 spec .003 to .010 perfered .005 to .007 reinstalled in vehicle test drove no noise heard from front diff - RFI casae C16615100376 Excessive rental due to parts being damanged on two orders XXXXXX aware of issue"

[HummBebe]

SNAP!!!

Scan it!

[dеiтайожни]

A scan will help, but remember ... we can tell if it's been photochopped. Could you possibly get any and all people who had something to do with your vehicle sign the document approving accuracy, and have it notarized and mailed via registered mail to each of us. Also, please post a list of all numbers where we can reach said people to clear this whole fiasco up.

[HIHUMMER]

SNAP!!!

Scan it!

will do in the morning once I get to work....

Is is possible that perhaps the dealer entered a wrong number or something?:confused: :confused:

[DRTYFN]

ok..then what the fuk is the sh!t on the bottom of my work order??? I'll scan damn thing and post if you think I made this up as well

19308 *had bad ring and pinion gears* - Test drove had clicking noise, sounded like coming from front diff, remved cover inspected foun no sign of problem reinstalled cover check ed fluid levels in both front and rear diff and transfer case, called tan talked to Barry Offerman said to run rubber hoses from front diff and transer case vents test drive to see if could hear noise found noise coming from front diff (Case #8903956) R&R dfont diff found chips in ring and pinion gears, also found preload on pinion at .008" Replaced ring and pinion gears and bearings and side carrier bearing, set preload to .27 spec .015 to .030 rest back lash to .006 spec .003 to .010 perfered .005 to .007 reinstalled in vehicle test drove no noise heard from front diff - RFI casae C16615100376 Excessive rental due to parts being damanged on two orders curt laudick aware of issue"

You typed all of that??? RAARRRR!!11!!
You = pwn3d by enragement

[HIHUMMER]

I had PM'd all that to F5 and NoMo eariler to see if they could explain it....:rolleyes:
copy and paste....

[f5fstop]

ok..then what the fuk is the sh!t on the bottom of my work order??? I'll scan damn thing and post if you think I made this up as well

19308 *had bad ring and pinion gears* - Test drove had clicking noise, sounded like coming from front diff, remved cover inspected foun no sign of problem reinstalled cover check ed fluid levels in both front and rear diff and transfer case, called tan talked to xxxxxxxx(real person on tech assistance...request HIHUMMER to XXX out name, but I verified it is a realy person) said to run rubber hoses from front diff and transer case vents test drive to see if could hear noise found noise coming from front diff (Case #8903956)(case number looks good, one way to correctly diagnose and narrow down the cause of the noise) R&R dfont diff found chips in ring and pinion gears, also found preload on pinion at .008" Replaced ring and pinion gears and bearings and side carrier bearing, set preload to .27 spec .015 to .030 rest back lash to .006 spec .003 to .010 perfered .005 to .007 reinstalled in vehicle test drove no noise heard from front diff - RFI casae C16615100376 Excessive rental due to parts being damanged on two orders xxxxxxx(real person, again, please XXX out most of name) aware of issue"

Yes, the dealer could have pulled the incorrect number for the repair, correct labor op would be F2382 versus F2383. Easy to fat finger one digit. In addition, since all repair times for H3 at time of repair were straight (vehicle not time studied till a month ago by GM to set exact times), to the warranty people, it would pay whatever it took to repair (tech punches in/punches out). Only thing that would be affected would be warranty reports run to see what parts are failing at what rate.
To be honest everyone, I can't believe anyone would have the correct names, the suggested diagnosis without this being for real.
It appears from my end, that it was a front diff gear replacement, and it was a mistake in the system by the warranty person at the dealer.

However, please explain how you damaged your front crossmember?:D

[HummerHippy]

220. 221. Whatever it takes....
X2 :D

[HummerNewbie]

However, please explain how you damaged your front crossmember?:D

Can you say Tellico :D

Don't know for sure but as I recall she was having some noise coming from the front end and they thought it might be the front suspension. Ended up being something to do with loose bolts on the cross member or something like that but I could be wrong.

[HummBebe]

Yes, the dealer could have pulled the incorrect number for the repair, correct labor op would be F2382 versus F2383. Easy to fat finger one digit. In addition, since all repair times for H3 at time of repair were straight (vehicle not time studied till a month ago by GM to set exact times), to the warranty people, it would pay whatever it took to repair (tech punches in/punches out). Only thing that would be affected would be warranty reports run to see what parts are failing at what rate.
To be honest everyone, I can't believe anyone would have the correct names, the suggested diagnosis without this being for real.
It appears from my end, that it was a front diff gear replacement, and it was a mistake in the system by the warranty person at the dealer.

However, please explain how you damaged your front crossmember?:D

YES!!!

[alldunn]

Can you say Tellico :D

Don't know for sure but as I recall she was having some noise coming from the front end and they thought it might be the front suspension. Ended up being something to do with loose bolts on the cross member or something like that but I could be wrong.

Could it possibly be from when you backed in to the front of her H3???:rolleyes::D

[HIHUMMER]

To be honest everyone, I can't believe anyone would have the correct names, the suggested diagnosis without this being for real.
It appears from my end, that it was a front diff gear replacement, and it was a mistake in the system by the warranty person at the dealer.

However, please explain how you damaged your front crossmember?:D

Thanks F5 AND NoMo...I appreciate your help.
I've pointed this possible keying error out to the dealer...we'll see what they do about it..? How about that FRONT Differential??!!!!:rolleyes:

Not sure about the front crossmember. There was squeeking when I would drive over a speed bump or something like that. The work order says something about bolts loose....I can PM the details to you later if you'd like.

[NoMoGMPG]

No, that's completely wrong. Your REAR diff was replaced on 04/25/2006

Your front diff hasn't been touched. You had a front axle seal replaced and that's about as close to the front diff as it got.

Personally, I don't see why there is a need to persecute the woman over semantics. Do you feel the need to be precise and 100% correct at all times and have no tolerance for others ignorance or lack of nomenclature?

This is just lame.:rolleyes:

[HummerNewbie]

Could it possibly be from when you backed in to the front of her H3???:rolleyes::D

You will pay for that! :mad: :D

[alldunn]

You will pay for that! :mad: :D

LMAO!!! :D

[HummerNewbie]

LMAO!!! :D

You two ready to head back to Tellico in a month or so?

[alldunn]

You two ready to head back to Tellico in a month or so?
You got exact dates yet? Maybe depending on when. Keep us posted! Middle of July is pretty much definitely out.

[HummerNewbie]

You got exact dates yet? Maybe depending on when. Keep us posted! Middle of July is pretty much definitely out.

No dates yet but thinking towards the end of July or the beginning of August. I will probably start a thread here shortly to see what everyone thinks. Know a group heading up there this weekend but they are going to be on motorcycles :(

[PARAGON]

Personally, I don't see why there is a need to persecute the woman over semantics.Persecute? Awwww! Did another swinging dick with a hard-on for the self-professed bitch get his feelers hurt? Pointing out the obvious is not persecution, davey boy.
Do you feel the need to be precise and 100% correct at all timesYou don't? Sad, indeed. Sorry to hear that you have such low self esteem that you don't subscribe to the idea of trying to be precise and correct
This is just lame.:rolleyes:You are lame. You looking to get lucky too?

[HummBebe]

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[PARAGON]

Leonard Ingram is ghey!

[NoMoGMPG]

Persecute? Awwww! Did another swinging dick with a hard-on for the self-professed bitch get his feelers hurt? Pointing out the obvious is not persecution, davey boy.
You don't? Sad, indeed. Sorry to hear that you have such low self esteem that you don't subscribe to the idea of trying to be precise and correct
You are lame. You looking to get lucky too?

Oh please. Your rationalizations are just childish ranting. Don't try your crap with me. It doesn't wash. :rolleyes:

[PARAGON]

Oh please. Your rationalizations are just childish ranting. Don't try your crap with me. It doesn't wash. :rolleyes:what, exactly, is it that I am suppose to be rationalizing?

What children do you know rationalizes anything anyway?

Don't try my crap with you? Look, sport. You chose to mouth off on the subject. I simply called a spade a spade. How about you stick to something you understand....... nevermind, there's not enough glue in the world for that.

[NoMoGMPG]

what, exactly, is it that I am suppose to be rationalizing?

What children do you know rationalizes anything anyway?

Don't try my crap with you? Look, sport. You chose to mouth off on the subject. I simply called a spade a spade. How about you stick to something you understand....... nevermind, there's not enough glue in the world for that.

You arrogant prick, just what is your 'specialty'? It sure isn't mechanics, or the inner workings of General Motors Corporate, is it? No. You assume because you can muster up enough metatags on Google to bring up some relevant material on a given subject that qualifies you as an expert. On EVERYTHING. How sad for you.

As far as my understanding, I understand you're an e-bully, given to berating and humiliating simple ignorance. You have no patience for the uninitiated or ill-informed, you choose to be aggressive towards anyone that does not agree with your supposed expertise. I have watched and sat through numerous occasions of your obsessive compulsive behavior.

I have news for you. I have forgotten more than you will ever know about General Motors. I have more experience with hands on mechanical ability than you ever will, as well. Don't make the mistake of equating silence with ignorance when it comes to my knowledge or access. I choose to respond when I see false or faulty information being thrown about. I don't sit and hover while obsessing about someone who just might mis-type a word or maybe use the incorrect nomenclature for a part, as you do.

I can see you're just salivating for my response...

Hover...Hover...Hover

Have a nice day!

[PARAGON]

You arrogant prick, just what is your 'specialty'? It sure isn't mechanics, or the inner workings of General Motors Corporate, is it? No. You assume because you can muster up enough metatags on Google to bring up some relevant material on a given subject that qualifies you as an expert. On EVERYTHING. How sad for you.

As far as my understanding, I understand you're an e-bully, given to berating and humiliating simple ignorance. You have no patience for the uninitiated or ill-informed, you choose to be aggressive towards anyone that does not agree with your supposed expertise. I have watched and sat through numerous occasions of your obsessive compulsive behavior.

I have news for you. I have forgotten more than you will ever know about General Motors. I have more experience with hands on mechanical ability than you ever will, as well. Don't make the mistake of equating silence with ignorance when it comes to my knowledge or access. I choose to respond when I see false or faulty information being thrown about. I don't sit and hover while obsessing about someone who just might mis-type a word or maybe use the incorrect nomenclature for a part, as you do.

I can see you're just salivating for my response...

Hover...Hover...Hover

Have a nice day!
Hover hover hover...... priceless. Way to go Mr. knoweverythingaboutgeneralmotors. aka A parts pusher for a dealer.:rolleyes: It's called email notification to a subscribed thread. Ever heard of it. Thought you really had me there didn't cha.:eek:

Where is this "specialty" bunk from? I am arrogant. What about it?

"You assume because you can muster up enough metatags on Google" Well, OK you got me there. If you could explain exactly what the fck that means I'll give it a shot. Are you, in some strange foreign way trying to ask if I am a mechanic or a parts guy at a dealership like you? The answer is NO. Sorry, that is not my specialty.

Care to share where I said I was an expert at everything..... or anything for that matter. Does my intelligence intimidate you that much? Do you feel so inadequate that you have to lash out with nonsense such as "berating and humiliating simple ignorance." Now, I might be wrong, but ignorance is pretty humiliating all by itself and I don't really see much point in berating inanimate objects, soooo....... I don't quite understand that comment.

I have no patience for those that try to be something they are not.

I have news for you. It's going to be partly cloudy with a slight chance of rain, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was finally killed by 2 500lb bomb blast dropped from a pair of F-16s, I-70 is going to have 2 lanes closed for construction....... enough of the news.

"I have more experience with hands on mechanical ability than you ever will, as well." So, you were a mechanic that made it up to the parts counter, good for you. What's your point?

You grossly overrate yourself? You should see someone for that.

[PARAGON]

So sorry, was that a weak attempt at trying to be funny?

"There may be other replies also, but you will not receive any more notifications until you visit the forum again."

[HummBebe]

You've got mail :D

LMFAO!!!

I thought it was funnay:D

[DDWH]

LMFAO!!!

I thought it was funnay:D

X2 This has brought the funnay!:D:D:D

BEEP BEEP!;)

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[HummBebe]

LMFAO!!!! AGAIN!!!!! Holy Cow!!!!!:D

[HummBebe]

You've got mail!!!

[DDWH]

You've got mail!!!

DING!

[DDWH]

:D :D :D :D :eek:

[HummBebe]

Didn't we used to call that being owned??? or pnw3d?? I'm new to this forum stuff...:D

[PARAGON]

Didn't we used to call that being owned??? or pnw3d?? I'm new to this forum stuff...:DNo, we call that etiquette for not e-hassling the person who just lost their son

[HummBebe]

You're right....but I did find some good ones :D:D:D:D:D

[PARAGON]

But you did it via an AE and vaguely mask bringing it up here :rolleyes:
http://www.xaltitudevideo.com/media/forum%20crap/p3.jpgI think you need to find someone to talk to. I have not done anything via AE here. Any AE stuff I've done is well known and documented.

You obviously want to accomplish something here, what is it that you want to accomplish?

[PARAGON]

You at least admit to it, that?s a start. Can I see the documentation?You have the same access to it that I have

[PARAGON]

I am not good at 'puters, give me the link.You know right where to search for just like I do.

[PARAGON]

So there is none. BTW did you get the notification again or are you hovering like I am?is no what?

[PARAGON]

Documentation. Please try to keep up with this John. It's you who I think is way behind. Documentation of what. My residency? My auto insurance? What?

[HummBebe]

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[HummBebe]

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[PARAGON]

is this it. this is all you fcks can muster. pwned!!!!!

Well, this will certainly go down in the history books of the site as one of biggest baddest pwneds. Phew!!!! A very sympathetic RARRRRRRRRR!1!!!!!!!

[HummBebe]

:D

[HummBebe]

HIHUMMER did not derserve the things you said earlier in the thread. She was telling the truth as it was told to her.

Ummm..... sorry, but if memory serves me your front diff. DID NOT go out. You had a front axle seal replaced. Huge difference.

Your "look at me, look at me" crap has you fudging on the facts now. :rolleyes:
Huge lengths? No. Made it up, well, yeah. Anyone with half a brain would read that thread and wonder what the fck you were on when you tried to slide that BS by.

You were all over the place, ring gear, bearings, second R&P was broke. :rolleyes:

No, that's completely wrong. Your REAR diff was replaced on 04/25/2006

Your front diff hasn't been touched. You had a front axle seal replaced and that's about as close to the front diff as it got.

Just plain ol' mean. IMHO

[PARAGON]

HIHUMMER did not derserve the things you said earlier in the thread. She was telling the truth as it was told to her.






Just plain ol' mean. IMHOWell, your opinion sucks. Being very pointed and abrasive is not angry and mean. Too many people, apparently like you, project their idea of what the emotions are behind the words instead of just reading the freaking words.

There was no other conclusion that could have been drawn based on what she had said which was non-comprehende and what was sent in.

Then she goes on to say again FRONT when just above it cleary stated in bold letters REAR. It's not semantics nor anything other than not paying attention.

As far as her attention whore persona, you get the bad with the good is about all I can say.

[HIHUMMER]

[quote=PARAGON]Your "look at me, look at me" crap:rolleyes: /quote]

And speaking of which...I'd like to point out the fact that you have just about as many posts in this thread as I do...hmmm...who's all "look at me, look at me" now??:rolleyes:

I really just don't get the attitude?...but whatever.

[PARAGON]

This was not really called for either John.2 things, Alec. both you and he could have left the thread alone and not put your litte quips in. But you did.

Your judgement on what and what is not called for is way askew, I have no desire to use it as a measure. Dave was given his outs and he didn't want to take them. You made it worst because you basically challenged him to keep posting things against me.

[HummBebe]

Well then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

The way you treated Dave was pretty sh1tty too.

You berated them both, then you got OWNED. You were wrong. She was right.

That is all.

[PARAGON]

[quote=PARAGON]Your "look at me, look at me" crap:rolleyes: /quote]

And speaking of which...I'd like to point out the fact that you have just about as many posts in this thread as I do...hmmm...who's all "look at me, look at me" now??:rolleyes:

I really just don't get the attitude?...but whatever.You are the reason why the words attention whore were coined.

If I would have said that to you in person, you wouldn't have thought twice about it. So, now it's something because someone else got the panties bunched up over it.

[PARAGON]

Well then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

The way you treated Dave was pretty sh1tty too.

You berated them both, then you got OWNED. You were wrong. She was right.

That is all.Oh, I don't know if my fragile psyche can handle it. I was OWNED. I'm still trying to figure out the how part, but I'm sure it will come to me.

[HIHUMMER]

[quote=HIHUMMER]You are the reason why the words attention whore were coined.

If I would have said that to you in person, you wouldn't have thought twice about it. So, now it's something because someone else got the panties bunched up over it.

Sure...tell yourself whatever makes you feel like it's justified. :rolleyes:

In person...you were actually nice to my face....interesting how things change and when I've done nothing directly to you.

[PARAGON]

Sure I did. I called Dave and said **** with Para :rolleyes:

You really are out there man.WTF, drink and toke some more Alec. Maybe you'll then make some sense.

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[PARAGON]

[quote=PARAGON]

Sure...tell yourself whatever makes you feel like it's justified. :rolleyes:

In person...you were actually nice to my face....interesting how things change and when I've done nothing directly to you.I was cordial

So, you can't not like someone until they do something to you?

[HummBebe]

Oh, I don't know if my fragile psyche can handle it. I was OWNED. I'm still trying to figure out the how part, but I'm sure it will come to me.

You thought you were right based on the written word. You gave no validity to what she was told by her dealer. (that was personal)

Then, you were proven to be wrong...the dealer screwed up on the key entry.

But you kept on with it.

In my limited experience with the innerturd web......that's ownage.

[PARAGON]

LOL, have you read your posts? Pot meet kettle.x2

[HummBebe]

[quote=HIHUMMER]I was cordial

So, you can't not like someone until they do something to you?

That's how most people are....duh.

[HIHUMMER]

[quote=HIHUMMER]I was cordial

So, you can't not like someone until they do something to you?

You are two-face.

No....feel free to go around and dislike everyone b/c ya want to..have fun.:rolleyes:

[HummBebe]

Owned again....

dude, take some tylenol PM and go to bed! We'll start fresh in the morning.;)

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[HummBebe]

I think I get that....:confused:

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Tist tist DEI...you're being an attention whore. ;)

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[PARAGON]

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You are two-face.

No....feel free to go around and dislike everyone b/c ya want to..have fun.:rolleyes:You are the two-faced lying cheating witch. I am not two-faced. You two are 2 stupid women or are so drunk you have no idea what you are talking about.

[PARAGON]

[quote=PARAGON]

That's how most people are....duh.Sorry to disappoint you, but that is NOT how most people are. That's how unstable self-centered selfish people are.

Those with morals and standards base what they think about another person on their overall actions and morals, not just what they did or did not do to them personally.

Imbecil

[HIHUMMER]

"You are the two-faced lying cheating Bitch."

Fissed. :rolleyes: :D

[HummBebe]

You two are 2 stupid women or are so drunk you have no idea what you are talking about.
OK....now your acting all butthurt.

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[PARAGON]

OK....now your acting all butthurt.

I'm sorry.
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That your butt hurts:DNot butt hurt.

Fascinated!

Fascinated that 2 women on opposite sides of the United States both think that the "what have you done for me lately" way of thinking is the way most people operate.

That believe that everyone is a friend and stays that way until they do something bad against them. That linear line of thinking baffles the hell out of me, but then again so does soap bubbles.

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Time to bust out the e-guns, it's gettin' real.

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[HIHUMMER]

[quote=HummBebe]Sorry to disappoint you, but that is NOT how most people are. That's how unstable self-centered selfish people are.

Those with morals and standards base what they think about another person on their overall actions and morals, not just what they did or did not do to them personally.

Imbecil

You have a major chip on your shoulder...but I've liked you, (even "had your back" before)...up until you attack me. Am I wrong for that?

Your delusions of grandeur are beyond comprehension.

[PARAGON]

[quote=PARAGON]

You have a major chip on your shoulder...but I've liked you, (even "had your back" before)...up until you attack me. Am I wrong for that?

Your delusions of grandeur are beyond comprehension. I have a large chip and a few screws IN my shoulder, but that's about it.

Sister, if I were to attack you, you would know it and there would be know beating around the bush BS like Alec is trying to do now. You don't care for some of my adjectives and adverbs, fine. But, don't overrate this as an "attack" of some sort. I was pointing out something very obvious that no one else seemed willing to bring up for over a month.

If you want to be treated differently, try acting differently.

Why does this have to be about right and wrong?

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Can we make fun of ducks next? If no one is busy that is.

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http://www.sullivanil.us/images/duck-1.jpg

[HIHUMMER]

Understandable Paragon...but it's called tact..you want to point out that I said something incorrectly..even basically calling me a liar about it..fine..but when it's shown that I didn't...you continue to try and prove that I did?!?

The fact remains: I was not lying.

[PARAGON]

mmmmm.......... sorry got nothing for that

[dеiтайожни]

I think someone has a crush on HI!

[PARAGON]

Understandable Paragon...but it's called tact..you want to point out that I said something incorrectly..even basically calling me a liar about it..fine..but when it's shown that I didn't...you continue to try and prove that I did?!?

The fact remains: I was not lying.Wrong again. Just like Bebe above. I did not continue anything. My last post was #86 in which you said FRONT where your warranty work clearly states REAR. That's where I put it red bold. You stated, something like, so my FRONT diff was replaced then. and I bolded and red colored the needed parts to point out that it contradicted what you said. It was well after that something was brought up about the work order and junk.

I did not bring it up again after that post until Dave tried to get his little jab in. Then Alec, Bebe and you.

So, there was no "continue to try and prove you lied"

[HIHUMMER]

I think someone has a crush on HI!

Beebs...didn't know you felt that way!:D ;) :rolleyes:

[HummBebe]

It WAS a secret....oh well, cat's out of the bag now.;)

[dеiтайожни]

Beebs...didn't know you felt that way!:D ;) :rolleyes:

That's hot.

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pics. do now!

[PARAGON]

LMAO, that stupid inbred fat dick called me a liar for weeks over an AE called THE BOSS. He never did have the ball to apologize that he was wrong.

Apologizing or forgiving is not something he can do with those high moral standards of his.No, I called you a liar for all of the ****ty lies you've told and continue to tell. Must be good for the soul and help with the mourning process or something I guess.

You are the one that was trying to tell me that Dennis or Drty was The Boss. I called you a liar because I set you up to see if you were indeed lying to me about everything, and low and behold you were even after telling me what great friends we were.

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http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/2384/ai9tb.gif

[HummBebe]

Awww.....that's gonna leave a mark:D

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/HummBeeBe/cat_dog_fight.jpg

[HummBebe]

Hey!!!! I'm wokkin' here!!!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/HummBeeBe/Bad20Manners.jpg

[HIHUMMER]

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i216/holliei/yourock.jpg

[PARAGON]

If I was really lying I would post the screen shots of the even more secret than the S&B posts you idiot. You would love the stuff they said about you ;)

However, I have yet to post any private posts and won?t. Unlike you I really don?t go that low.Huh?

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http://www.punkasspunk.com/videolog/20050725/Stewie_Griffin_-_The_Untold_Story_(2005)_4.jpg

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http://pirtoopir.free.fr/-forom-/duck.jpg

[HummBebe]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/HummBeeBe/lemonenemy.jpg

[dеiтайожни]

http://people.clarkson.edu/~stpieraf/owned.jpg

[HummBebe]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/HummBeeBe/Thanksforasking.jpg

[HummBebe]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/HummBeeBe/Sculpture.gif

[HummBebe]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/HummBeeBe/poop.gif

[HummBebe]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/HummBeeBe/Feel.jpg

;)

[HIHUMMER]

ok..maybe one more...

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i216/holliei/yay.gif

[HummBebe]

Last one I promise;)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/HummBeeBe/Blame.gif

[PARAGON]

Nice you paranoid freak of nature.

I was honest but you but you acted like a moron and basically kept calling be a liar even though I was telling you 100% truth.

Who in the world would want a friend like you anyway? My real fiends have been calling me to see how I am doing regularly but you never said squat. Your a ?friend? people don?t need and worthless.


I think you need to look for a friend here:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&sll=39.610058,-104.867996&sspn=0.017655,0.060425&q=psychotherapist+loc:+5874+S+HANOVER+WAY,+GREENWO OD+VILLAGE,+CO+80111&cid=39610175,-104868060,1242468535134988643&li=lmd&z=13&t=m

[DDWH]

So whats the deal....did HI get her rig with new difs back yet or is it still MIA?