View Full Version : H2 Wheels falling off.
H2 BULLY
07-21-2006, 05:37 PM
http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/14280393p-15088817c.html
I found this in my news paper this morning. Anyone have any comments.
DRTYFN
07-21-2006, 05:42 PM
Anyone have any comments.
Yeah...
I saw a full-sized Ford that lost its front right wheel 2 days ago. Don't think the problem is isolated to Hummers.:rolleyes:
H2 BULLY
07-21-2006, 05:45 PM
so why isn't there an article about FORD (found on road dead)
DRTYFN
07-21-2006, 05:52 PM
so why isn't there an article about FORD (found on road dead)
Biased media conspiracy.:D
CO Hummer
07-21-2006, 06:32 PM
umm.
Agriv8r
07-22-2006, 03:34 PM
we have had 2 twoed in for this, but the drivers admitted they were agressive/abusive and both were trying to climb straight up walls. they knew they could not climb them, they just wanted to get the trucks as straight up as possible for pics. both ran into stone cliffs trying to acheive this and the ball joints separated. looked cool when they came in. couple hour fix and they werre out in the woods again
AndrewMcIntoshSac Bee man
07-25-2006, 08:22 PM
Hey folks.
I am the Sacramento Bee reporter who wrote the story about the NHTSA probe into H2 steering knuckle failures that are causing suspensions to either collpase or wheels to fall off.
20of the 26 cases involve 2003 Model year H2 and ZI reported that GM changed the part for Model 2004 year H2s.
I'd be interested in talking to any of you who own a 2003 H2 either in this forum or off line to see if you think GM should recall the steering knuckle or not. Gm denies there's a problem and says there's no safety issue... yet if you read my story there are some H2 owners who clearly disagree...
My number is 916-321-1215 or my e-mail is amcintosh@sacbee.com.
DRTYFN
07-25-2006, 08:46 PM
Hey folks.
I am the Sacramento Bee reporter who wrote the story about the NHTSA probe into H2 steering knuckle failures that are causing suspensions to either collpase or wheels to fall off.
20of the 26 cases involve 2003 Model year H2 and ZI reported that GM changed the part for Model 2004 year H2s.
I'd be interested in talking to any of you who own a 2003 H2 either in this forum or off line to see if you think GM should recall the steering knuckle or not. Gm denies there's a problem and says there's no safety issue... yet if you read my story there are some H2 owners who clearly disagree...
My number is 916-321-1215 or my e-mail is amcintosh@sacbee.com.
Why would it matter what we "think GM should do"? You're just going to skew the piece to make it serve your anti-Hummer agenda anyway.
BTW, I've got an '03 with 75K miles on it. My rig is reliable as the media is biased - EXTREMELY.
PARAGON
07-25-2006, 09:16 PM
Without exception, for every occurance in which sufficient data exist to support a meaningful technical assessment, incidents of steering knuckle fracture are accompanied by evidence of an impact. Where sufficient evidence is available to determine the sequence of events, GM has found that wheels were attached to the vehicle before and at the time of impact.
For the rest of the ones they were able to investigate through visual or photographic evidence, it was apparent that the knuckle sustained a single overload event.
IMO, it's likely some idiot was trying to jump his 8K pound H2 because he saw a picture in some car magazine showing one jumping over a sand dune. It's then much more likely that they are not going to admit to what they were doing so as to get it covered under warranty. But hey, that just a guess coming from a H2 owner since August 2002 that has driven the truck in difficult and demanding off-road conditions without a problem.
Now, as to whether or not a recall should be issued. Issued for what. This design is used on all 2500 and 3500 pickups as well and there is no significant instance of failure with the pickups. I'm just guessing here, but I would bet it's because they didn't go out and do something stupid like try to jump their pickup over a big sand dune.
CO Hummer
07-25-2006, 09:41 PM
I'd be interested in talking to any of you who own a 2003 H2 either in this forum or off line to see if you think GM should recall the steering knuckle or not. Gm denies there's a problem and says there's no safety issue... yet if you read my story there are some H2 owners who clearly disagree...
My number is 916-321-1215 or my e-mail is amcintosh@sacbee.com.
I have an early 2003. My wheels fall off all the time. I'm seriously getting sick of it.
DennisAJC
07-25-2006, 10:02 PM
Adam fixed mine the last time my wheel fell off.
PARAGON
07-25-2006, 10:32 PM
Adam fixed mine the last time my wheel fell off.Adam fixes everyone's ball joint
DennisAJC
07-25-2006, 10:40 PM
Adam fixes everyone's ball.
You can say that again!
The Chazz thanks Adam too.:D
AndrewMcIntoshSac Bee man
07-25-2006, 10:50 PM
I have no anti-Hummer agenda.
read the story.
The parts posted from GM I also quoted in my story .
I am seeking ALL responses - not just people who may like to see a recall. One such person has contacted me already.
If you don't think there should be a recall, I want to hear that, too. I strive for getting all side of a story into the paper.
I'd love to talk to some real H2 owners, too, not just pseudonyms on a web thread.
so come on you guys/gals. pick up the phone, let me hear your thoughts. Andrew McIntosh 916-321-1215
PARAGON
07-25-2006, 10:57 PM
I have no anti-Hummer agenda.
read the story.
I can't, it requires one to "log in" to read it.
31_bandits
07-25-2006, 11:00 PM
I have no anti-Hummer agenda.
read the story.
The parts posted from GM I also quoted in my story .
I am seeking ALL responses - not just people who may like to see a recall. One such person has contacted me already.
If you don't think there should be a recall, I want to hear that, too. I strive for getting all side of a story into the paper.
I'd love to talk to some real H2 owners, too, not just pseudonyms on a web thread.
so come on you guys/gals. pick up the phone, let me hear your thoughts. Andrew McIntosh 916-321-1215
http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/14280393p-15088817c.html
It is noteworthy, Andrew, that your column begins with a typical sensationalized account of imminent danger. Now, this is sort of the way of the media, i presume because it sells the most papers and/or gets the highest ratings, but the first 3 paragraphs are, plain and simple, dramatized reporting.
Have you reported on one of the Toyota Prius's myriad recalls of late? ;)
PARAGON
07-25-2006, 11:06 PM
I have no anti-Hummer agenda.
read the story.
The parts posted from GM I also quoted in my story .
I am seeking ALL responses - not just people who may like to see a recall. One such person has contacted me already.
If you don't think there should be a recall, I want to hear that, too. I strive for getting all side of a story into the paper.
I'd love to talk to some real H2 owners, too, not just pseudonyms on a web thread.
so come on you guys/gals. pick up the phone, let me hear your thoughts. Andrew McIntosh 916-321-1215The 4 people that responded to you have, collectively, over 130K posts on this message board from the day it was started, all own 2003 H2s, and live in different parts of the country (well, one lives in Canada). We have all 4 met and driven our trucks off-road together, still own our trucks even though this "ball-joint" issue is 3 years old.
Let me put it another way. This is very old news and it wasn't news then.
The 4 people that responded to you have, collectively, over 155K posts on this message board from the day it was started, all own, or owned, 2003 H2s, and live in different parts of the country (well, one lives in Canada). We have all 5 met and driven our trucks off-road together, mostly still own our trucks even though this "ball-joint" issue is 3 years old.
Let me put it another way. This is very old news and it wasn't news then.Fizzed.
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