37" BFG Y'all Terrains

[Alan06SUT]

I am thinking about getting a set of 37x12.50x17 BFG All terrains. It looks like it will be about $1,300.00 out the doorfor 4.
Is the extra 1.8 in worth it? the dia of the stock is 34.5 vs 36.3 for the "37's" per BFG website. (It = > 1" added Ground Clearance)

Can I use the stock spare as long as I put it on the front or dont use the locker? Or should I quit being cheap and get 5 tires?

Does anyone on here run the 37" AT's?

Will they balance out as nice as the 35's do?

[CO Hummer]

I am thinking about getting a set of 37x12.50x17 BFG All terrains. It looks like it will be about $1,300.00 out the doorfor 4.
Is the extra 1.8 in worth it? the dia of the stock is 34.5 vs 36.3 for the "37's" per BFG website. (It = > 1" added Ground Clearance)

Can I use the stock spare as long as I put it on the front or dont use the locker? Or should I quit being cheap and get 5 tires?

Does anyone on here run the 37" AT's?

Will they balance out as nice as the 35's do?

I like the thread title -- "Mall Terrains". :D :D :D

I just tested by 37s and that couple of inches makes a big difference (for Procomp MTs which translated to exactly 36.9 inches). I banged rather reguarly on my custom skid plate with worn down 35s. Now I hardly touch at all. The ride is also smoother since you have more cushion in the tires. I'm a 37 convert and will NOT go back to 35s for sure.

The stock spare will be fine to get you off the trail and to a fix it place. You probably don't want ride with the smaller tire for an extended period of time.

If you get the larger tires - a MUST is the Rancho steering stablizer which runs around $50. I'd also upgrade to Fabtech DH tierods too.

[timgco]

I am thinking about getting a set of 37x12.50x17 BFG All terrains. It looks like it will be about $1,300.00 out the doorfor 4.
Is the extra 1.8 in worth it? the dia of the stock is 34.5 vs 36.3 for the "37's" per BFG website. (It = > 1" added Ground Clearance)

Can I use the stock spare as long as I put it on the front or dont use the locker? Or should I quit being cheap and get 5 tires?

Does anyone on here run the 37" AT's?

Will they balance out as nice as the 35's do?

Alan, since you are offroading, that extra inch or so will help for sure. It also fills in those wheelwells better. If you don't plan to rotate in your 5th tire and use it for emergency situations only, leave the stock one on. If you plan to rotate it in or have the possibility of driving three or four hours on the highway to get somehwere, get the 5th. BTW- where's that Gobi rack you were talking about.

[Alan06SUT]

Alan, since you are offroading, that extra inch or so will help for sure. It also fills in those wheelwells better. If you don't plan to rotate in your 5th tire and use it for emergency situations only, leave the stock one on. If you plan to rotate it in or have the possibility of driving three or four hours on the highway to get somehwere, get the 5th. BTW- where's that Gobi rack you were talking about.

I was told by my family members to quit buying everything on impulse so they could buy me something for X-Mas. So I'll probably order it sometime in November!

[OldHiker]

I changed the tie rods & stabilizer. Have Rubber Duck ucp, but the tires were obviously the best improvement. I have made several trips of over 4000 miles with some off-roading thrown in.

The best thing for the most improvement. And they look great!

29733

[Alan06SUT]

I like the thread title -- "Mall Terrains". :D :D :D
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If you get the larger tires - a MUST is the Rancho steering stablizer which runs around $50. I'd also upgrade to Fabtech DH tierods too.

Mall Terrains....thats what all the clowns around here call em.

Thanks. That is the response I was hoping for. Im sick of scraping so much.

Ive got the HD tie rods, but i'll get the rancho stabilizer.

[Alan06SUT]

If you plan to rotate it in or have the possibility of driving three or four hours on the highway to get somehwere, get the 5th. BTW- where's that Gobi rack you were talking about.

Il probably go with 5 b/c I plan to drive cross country and off road along the way.

[Alan06SUT]

I changed the tie rods & stabilizer. Have Rubber Duck ucp, but the tires were obviously the best improvement. I have made several trips of over 4000 miles with some off-roading thrown in.

The best thing for the most improvement. And they look great!

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Looks good OH! How were the MT's on the road for extended trips?

[H2JP]

I have the 37" BFG All-Terrains and I love em. Mine are 37x12.50-20 though and the balanced up real nice. I haven't had em off road yet but I have the sneaking suspicion they would perform very muck like the stock ones ;)

[Longhorn]

I have them! The BFG MTs have been great tires the last 27K miles but it will be time for new ones soon.

They balanced quite easily (compared to other 37s).

I would buy them again! I ran them on a previous vehicle with good results.

I may try the Toyos in 37X13.50 and do some trimming.

[Alan06SUT]

I have them! The BFG MTs have been great tires the last 27K miles but it will be time for new ones soon.

They balanced quite easily (compared to other 37s).

I would buy them again! I ran them on a previous vehicle with good results.


I may try the Toyos in 37X13.50 and do some trimming.

You have 37" ALL terrains? The ones in the pics are MUD Terrains.

[Alan06SUT]

I have them! The BFG MTs have been great tires the last 27K miles but it will be time for new ones soon.

They balanced quite easily (compared to other 37s).

I would buy them again! I ran them on a previous vehicle with good results.

I may try the Toyos in 37X13.50 and do some trimming.

BTW who makes that front bumper?:perfect10s:

[timgco]

I was told by my family members to quit buying everything on impulse so they could buy me something for X-Mas. So I'll probably order it sometime in November!

DAmn, now that's a good XMAS present. I'm stopping by your house this year.:jump:

[Arizona Hummerboy]

You look at the picture of this Hummer and it looks like it is smiling.:)


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[OldHiker]

Looks good OH! How were the MT's on the road for extended trips?

I have driven them on 2 separate trips of almost 5000 miles each. Both times we took a detour for some off-roading. On Friday, we leave from NY to go to Moab and then the Rubicon. This trip will be over 8000 miles before we get back in 6 weeks. I don't anticipate any problems with them. I run them at 40 lbs. Makes steering them on the street easier. Off-road, I drop them to 20.

OOPS. Just noticed you are talking about AT's. Mine are MT's. Nevermind.

[ROX]

I like the thread title -- "Mall Terrains". :D :D :D

I'd also upgrade to Fabtech DH tierods too.Upgrade to the duty heavy tie rods?:dancingbanana:

[CO Hummer]

Upgrade to the duty heavy tie rods?:dancingbanana:

Ummm. Don't you have farts to light or something? :dancingbanana:

[MarineHawk]

I got five 37" Cooper STTs for $1,200.
Best tire I have ever owned. 84 lbs of rubber apiece. Accidentally had them as low as 14 psi off road for 2 whole days with no separation. Grip like glue and drive great on the hwy at 50 psi.

Il probably go with 5 b/c I plan to drive cross country and off road along the way.

[Mr. I - Man]

I got five 37" Cooper STTs for $1,200.
Best tire I have ever owned. 84 lbs of rubber apiece. Accidentally had them as low as 14 psi off road for 2 whole days with no separation. Grip like glue and drive great on the hwy at 50 psi.

Thats a good price where did you those up at?:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

[Alan06SUT]

I got five 37" Cooper STTs for $1,200.
Best tire I have ever owned. 84 lbs of rubber apiece. Accidentally had them as low as 14 psi off road for 2 whole days with no separation. Grip like glue and drive great on the hwy at 50 psi.

Cool. That might be an alternative since 5 are cheaper than 4 Mall Terrains. I belive Lotus4 had those on his H3 at Tellico...Please chime in Lotus If I'm right!

Are the comparable to stock on the highway?

[timgco]

Cool. That might be an alternative since 5 are cheaper than 4 Mall Terrains. I belive Lotus4 had those on his H3 at Tellico...Please chime in Lotus If I'm right!

Are the comparable to stock on the highway?

FWIW- If you drive in snow/ ice (on the road) MT tires bring teh suck! AT tires are way better for that. A tire that's in bewtween an MT and an AT, IMO, would be to go with the procomp extreme AT. They have deeper lugs and are dirrectional. We have them on our H3 and they kick butt in the snow/ ice, they're good in the mud (not as good as a MT tire, but close) but better than my AT's have been in the past. They don't seem to clog up with mud as much as the BFG AT's did. I'm not sure if that's due to wider spacing between lugs or the dirrectional pattern or both. I have a set of these on the way for the H2 in a 37 13.50 17. most of my driving is on the road. For the off roading I do (a few times a year), I'll throw my MT's back on if they are week long trips or something. Also if you have air susp. go with a 12.50 wide tire so you don't air down and mess up that arm back there.

keep in mind that if you don't stay on top of front end alignment, balance, and rotation, the MT tires will show more wear quicker than an AT and will also ride with vibration. I have this with my MT's for the last 3,000 miles. the damn steering wheel and shifter shake pretty bad. :mad: They are getting better though.

Here's a link to their website. http://www.procomptires.com/xtatapps.htm

[MarineHawk]

Weber Tire; 10900 Main St., Fairfax, VA

Thats a good price where did you those up at?:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

[MarineHawk]

I like the way they drive on the hwy better than stock. A slight hum, but only enough that you might realize you are driving a 7,000 lb military vehicle. So far, they have worn well and stayed round. It's surprising how the additional 1.25" (radial diff - diameter diff is 2.5") makes you seem to sit up higher (that along with 1.5" t-bar crank). My limited snow experience was also very good. Sidewalls are incredibly thick, and there is good tread a few iniches down the side. I had several instances where, on steep wet rock, others on the trail slid down at the end of the decent, whereas mine didn't slip. Maybe just luck or something else, but I'm hapy enough with them that I wouldn't trade them in for any other tire. AND ... they are reasonably priced.

Cool. That might be an alternative since 5 are cheaper than 4 Mall Terrains. I belive Lotus4 had those on his H3 at Tellico...Please chime in Lotus If I'm right!

Are the comparable to stock on the highway?

[Alan06SUT]

Who changed the subject from Mall to Tall? DIE.

Thanks for the info i'll keep it to 12.50 since I have air.

[Alan06SUT]

Damn! Now BALL Terrain. Mall Terrain is FUNNAYER:D

[Alan06SUT]

Ok Marinehawk, you almost have me convinced on the Coopers. Do you have air on your truck? Are yours 12.50's or 13.50's? And, is there a noticable diffreance in road noise from the stock Mall Terrains?:confused: :confused: :confused:

My Mall terrains are hurting at the moment. I bet they are at lest 3/4" shorter than when new.

[Alan06SUT]

Nevermind on the noise, I just reread your post!

[timgco]

Mall
Hall
Ball Terrains. Bwaaahhaaaahaaaaaa


Alan, I was going to ask you: What shape are your AT's in? If they aren't bad: keep the AT's for winter and the new MT's for Summer and Wheelin. If that's even a consideration, not sure, but thought I would mention it.

[lotus4s]

Cool. That might be an alternative since 5 are cheaper than 4 Mall Terrains. I belive Lotus4 had those on his H3 at Tellico...Please chime in Lotus If I'm right!

Are the comparable to stock on the highway?

Hey Alan,

Yes you are correct and I've been pleased so far with the Coopers. We don't have much snow/ice here in Fl :jump: but they have been great in the rain. On the way back from Tellico we hit heavy rain for quite a while and they were still extremely stable at 75-80 mph.

They ride great, my buddy even commented about the smooth ride. Road noise is more than the AT's but not bad and nothing the radio can't cure. :D

Lookin' forward to wheelin' again!

Jim

[Alan06SUT]

Mall
Hall
Ball Terrains. Bwaaahhaaaahaaaaaa


Alan, I was going to ask you: What shape are your AT's in? If they aren't bad: keep the AT's for winter and the new MT's for Summer and Wheelin. If that's even a consideration, not sure, but thought I would mention it.

Good Idea. I will definatley hold on to them. They are about 1/2 done I'd say.

[Alan06SUT]

Hey Alan,

Yes you are correct and I've been pleased so far with the Coopers. We don't have much snow/ice here in Fl :jump: but they have been great in the rain. On the way back from Tellico we hit heavy rain for quite a while and they were still extremely stable at 75-80 mph.

They ride great, my buddy even commented about the smooth ride. Road noise is more than the AT's but not bad and nothing the radio can't cure. :D

Lookin' forward to wheelin' again!

Jim

Cool! I think I will get the coopers. Thanks again Jim, see you on the trail next time we all get together!

[MarineHawk]

Ok Marinehawk, you almost have me convinced on the Coopers. Do you have air on your truck? Are yours 12.50's or 13.50's? And, is there a noticable diffreance in road noise from the stock Mall Terrains?:confused: :confused: :confused:

My Mall terrains are hurting at the moment. I bet they are at lest 3/4" shorter than when new.

They are labelled as 37" x 12.5"; however, Cooper's specs list their section width as 13.1". I have the air and no problems yet.

[CO Hummer]

I have the air and no problems yet.

Then you probably haven't wheeled hard enough. With those meaty tires, at 13" you're gonna snap one of those eventually.

Get ready to order. If your truck is an '03-'04:
- The left sensor is part no. #15187825,
- The right sensor is part no. #15124930


(Thanks to NoMompg for that part number info)

[MarineHawk]

Then you probably haven't wheeled hard enough. With those meaty tires, at 13" you're gonna snap one of those eventually.

Would wheels with an inch less backspacing solve that concern?

[31_bandits]

Would wheels with an inch less backspacing solve that concern?

i would pose the same question.

Hawk, have you taken any blows to the suspension parts that get exposed from low back spacing rims (mine are, i think, 1.5 or 2" less than stock)?

i'm kind of worried about that - the stuff that was tucked into the wheel is now out a bit...

[CO Hummer]

Would wheels with an inch less backspacing solve that concern?

I would think so. I know it significantly decrease the rubbing (4.5 space) like on Adam's rig.

[MarineHawk]

i would pose the same question.

Hawk, have you taken any blows to the suspension parts that get exposed from low back spacing rims (mine are, i think, 1.5 or 2" less than stock)?

i'm kind of worried about that - the stuff that was tucked into the wheel is now out a bit...

I still have stock rims. I was considering going with and inch less (4.5" I think) to eliminate the mild rubbing up front. I don't know if my lack of air failure is luck, that the tires aren't big enough, or perhaps because I generally have the air suspension engaged when wheeling-perhaps moving the tires out of the way. But I haven't even looked at the air thingy yet. I just know it's working after some fairly decent wheeling. The photo above shows the tire pretty much at its highest arc of movement.

[CO Hummer]

The photo above shows the tire pretty much at its highest arc of movement.

You're probably safe in that photo. HOWEVER--------when you get off camber and you rest the more of the weight of the vehicle on your tire while it's pressed, that's when it'll happen. In that photo you're on flat ground. I've seen two broken - and both were when the vehicle was leaning into the wheel, unlike in your pic.

[31_bandits]

i got it.

every time i read about how my truck is about to shoot a half-shaft into orbit and send tie rods across state lines, i fret for half an hour, and then just forget about it... and the truck keeps going. the underbody protection is toasted, couple cosmetic blemishes, lots of gouges in the frame, but the alignment is still good and there's no hint of anything being damaged.

but for the moment i'm in my half hour of fretting. :D

[MarineHawk]

You're probably safe in that photo. HOWEVER--------when you get off camber and you rest the more of the weight of the vehicle on your tire while it's pressed, that's when it'll happen. In that photo you're on flat ground. I've seen two broken - and both were when the vehicle was leaning into the wheel, unlike in your pic.

Thanks CO. I'll probably proceed with the 4.5" wheels.

[DRTYFN]

Mall
Hall
Ball Terrains. Bwaaahhaaaahaaaaaa


Add Y'all to the list.:giggling:

[timgco]

Add Y'all to the list.:giggling:

LMAO!!!!! Alan?

[CO Hummer]

They do a Texas Edition BFG? ;)

Yes. The 37" BFGs in Texas are 38".

[Alan06SUT]

Damn, I dont want to deal with breaking the air sensor deals. Is it the same part/spacing/etc on my 06 as your 03-04?? What about some 1/4" wheel spacers? CoHummer, arent yours 13.50's??? I'm talking about getting the 12.50's. Will this still be an issue? Arent the stock mall terrains 12.50?:violin:

[CO Hummer]

Damn, I dont want to deal with breaking the air sensor deals. Is it the same part/spacing/etc on my 06 as your 03-04?? What about some 1/4" wheel spacers? CoHummer, arent yours 13.50's??? I'm talking about getting the 12.50's. Will this still be an issue? Arent the stock mall terrains 12.50?:violin:
Mine are 12.5. I've seen 12.5ers break the sensors on Alec's rig, but I think a contributor to the problem is that he doesn't have a rear sway bar.

I think that if you're getting the 12.5 ATs you'll be fine. Even with my 12.5s, I was going to buy some 'spare' sensors to take along. But they are like $90/ea so I'm just going to wait and see if I break one. If had 13.5s I'd probably assume that I would break one at some point and buy in advance.

[KenP]

Zip ties work well for the repair.:jump:

[Alan06SUT]

Ok my internet shopping skills must suck. I have found 37x12.50x17 All Terrain BFG's for 288/tire. Cooper SST's for 239/tire. but then you have to add all the bs and the coopers come to $1500.00+ :lame: https://www.tiresavings.com/cart.php?action=cartShipQuote

With all the BS the BFG AT come to $1600.00+::lame:

https://www.tiresavings.com/cart.php?action=deleteItem&id=388405

Where do you guys get these low a55 prices from???

[timgco]

After searching through spreadsheets and referencing the coordinated pics, I found it: Here's what your rig will look like with your X Mass present and some 37's.:D

[CO Hummer]

After searching through spreadsheets and referencing the coordinated pics, I found it: Here's what your rig will look like with your X Mass present and some 37's.:D

Man, that makes me wonder why you ever gave the beauty up, Timmy. :(

[CO Hummer]

Ok my internet shopping skills must suck. I have found 37x12.50x17 All Terrain BFG's for 288/tire. Cooper SST's for 239/tire. but then you have to add all the bs and the coopers come to $1500.00+ :lame: https://www.tiresavings.com/cart.php?action=cartShipQuote

With all the BS the BFG AT come to $1600.00+::lame:

https://www.tiresavings.com/cart.php?action=deleteItem&id=388405

Where do you guys get these low a55 prices from???

Did you try Sam's Club yet? Seriously.

[Alan06SUT]

After searching through spreadsheets and referencing the coordinated pics, I found it: Here's what your rig will look like with your X Mass present and some 37's.:D

Beautiful! I wonder if it is a street queen somewhere now?

[Alan06SUT]

Ordered the coopers today. $1600.00 for 5 out the door. this includes lifetime free replacement ($40.00 extra/tire). Tires alone were supposedly$269ea, all the other bs added up. I shopped around and the cheapest deal was $1550 out the door, but this was across town. I chose the Discount tire 1 mile from my house. They include lifetime balancing/rotating/fixing. And since they are near, I'll actually go there. Marine Hawk you got a steal bro!

[Sewie]

Man, that makes me wonder why you ever gave the beauty up, Timmy. :(

x2. That's one of my favorite looking H2's.

[MarineHawk]

Where do you guys get these low a55 prices from???

Things are more expensive in Georgia ever since the destruction caused by General Sherman's march to the sea.

Seriously, I just called about a dozen places around here. There was a huge disparity in what verious shops were asking for the Coopers.

[scottminor]

Can anyone post a picture of their's with BFG AT 37 12.5 17s?

[Bimmer9938]

I've heard great things about the Good Year Wrangler MTR tire as well.