If GM made the H2 instead of AM General

[31_bandits]

How upset would you be?

I really like having a truck made in Indiana where 51 families gave up their homes so the town could get a brand new factory...

...and i know the H2 was rushed way-to-fast into production, but that is one fine truck they put together.

I voted "so pissed i probably wouldn't buy another H2".

[Tex_h2]

How upset would you be?

I really like having a truck made in Indiana where 51 families gave up their homes so the town could get a brand new factory...

...and i know the H2 was rushed way-to-fast into production, but that is one fine truck they put together.

I voted "so pissed i probably wouldn't buy another H2".

:iagree: .......The H3 was a nice idea...but, as you see AM General didn?t build it....GM did. I hate when a company lowers itself, just to draw more attention. Like Jeep coming out with a Non-off road mid-size SUV....wtf? Or Porsche for making a SUV...WTF?? Have the balls, to stick to what you do right...

[marin8703]

why does it matter? still same vehicle and same way of production. Does GM own the H2 design and is it incharge of everything except building, or does it just own the logo?

I dont see what the difference is, someone point it out, or is it just one of those things that feel right?

[BlueHUMMERH2]

I think for being designed by GM, the H3 is pretty excellent off-road. It could be better, but they did a rather good job. I'd prefer that AM General kept building the H2 though. I like to say that to people when they ask about the vehicle.

[31_bandits]

i understand where you are coming from, marin. But its a cool story, a little closer to the roots of the hummers, and i think that factory really meant something to the town it was built in, and it would be a shame for GM to send production to mexico city to save 20 bucks. I'd rather just pay the 20 bucks extra and get a truck made in indiana.

This wasn't an H3 thing, i wasn't knocking H3s.

[HummBob]

i understand where you are coming from, marin. But its a cool story, a little closer to the roots of the hummers, and i think that factory really meant something to the town it was built in, and it would be a shame for GM to send production to mexico city to save 20 bucks. I'd rather just pay the 20 bucks extra and get a truck made in indiana.


:iagree:

[phazer42]

why does it matter? still same vehicle and same way of production. Does GM own the H2 design and is it incharge of everything except building, or does it just own the logo?

I dont see what the difference is, someone point it out, or is it just one of those things that feel right?


The H2 is built by AMG but the manufacturing practices and design are all GM.... originally AMG didn't want to much automation in the bodyshops and therefore the first few batches of trucks weren't all they consistent causing all kinds of problems.... now they are much more automated and producing much better vehicles.... but all in all, its 75%GM and 25% AMG for the H2.... The H3 is a different story... one that I am not totally familiar with....

Scott
'01 HMCO

[f5fstop]

The H2 is built by AMG but the manufacturing practices and design are all GM.... originally AMG didn't want to much automation in the bodyshops and therefore the first few batches of trucks weren't all they consistent causing all kinds of problems.... now they are much more automated and producing much better vehicles.... but all in all, its 75%GM and 25% AMG for the H2.... The H3 is a different story... one that I am not totally familiar with....

Scott
'01 HMCO

correct, and in addition, GM has a large contingent of engineers at AMG who are in with AMG in the production of the H2, and they also have a contingent for the H1 (not anymore) and the Hummvee since they also use a large portion of GM parts. However, except for the H2, they are support only. H2, they are basically more than support.
There is also a fairly large group of service engineers at AMG to monitor the vehicles and work on any required service fixes, and relay that info to the GM tech center for finalization.

Then you have people like me who support the H2 and H3 while living in the arm pit of the world; MI.:D Except I support future product, and very little with current product.

The H3 is totally GM; designed, supplied out for parts, and built at a 100% GM facility in Shreveport, LA.

[31_bandits]

hey fellas,

this isn't about H1s or H3s, just H2s. The thread is not treading on "real hummer" "original" , and it isn't at all about ripping on H3s for being "all GM".

I know GM is in a bit of a corner, and i support them (GM), and frankly i think they are rapidly closing (to closed) ground between their products and whatever imports or competitors you might wish to consider... and alot of how they can save money is getting out of union stranglehold, and moving production to mexico is good and yada yada yada. I just really like having a truck made in Indiana. Hence the question.

[Tex_h2]

One thing I really love about the "HUMMER" name is that it’s different; it was built by a company that the army believes would produce the best military vehicle. The H1 is strong, powerful and certainly BIG. Which make the H1 the coolest SUV (if you can call it that) on this planet? Coming in second place is the H2, still continue with the tradition of Hummer by making it BIG, powerful (not fast) and strong. But with a few added amenities that the H1 does not have. Both are amazing looking as well as every little kids dream.

Final the H3, well I'm not going to go there as most of you know how I feel about the H3. But I will say, it's not bad...but I believe HUMMER should have never let GM build this version. And GM will continue to ruin the name of HUMMER.

Just my two cents......and yes, this tread isn't about the H1, H2, or H3..But about, what again?????

[dеiтайожни]

Just my two cents......and yes, this tread isn't about the H1, H2, or H3..But about, what again?????

If you would read the title or the post above you, you would see this thread is about the H2. But, like you do with all your posts you bring the H3 into it because you are obviously threatened by it.

You know... for someone who bought their first Hummer only about a month ago, didn't give two ****s about the company prior and probably didn't even know what an H3 was until joining this board, you sure think you are quite the Hummer expert, don't you? :confused: :lame:

[31_bandits]

Final the H3, well I'm not going to go there as most of you know how I feel about the H3. But I will say, it's not bad...but I believe HUMMER should have never let GM build this version. And GM will continue to ruin the name of HUMMER.



I really don't like seeing the H3 bashed by H2 drivers. Leave elitist assininity for that certain element of the H1 crew.

There is no question that the H3 is the best hummer in some ways. Gearing, an interior that will be considerably less prone to rattles over time than its big brothers, and mileage come to mind. I wouldn't hold it against anybody if they liked the styling better than the other 2, its cleaner and less absurd, and the leather seated interiors w/contrast piping are sweet. I don't think its a stretch to say their premium sound is the best sound system in any of the trucks either. There's really nothing bad to say about the H3.

I probably won't ever have one, maybe. For me if they stopped making the H2, i may never have another hummer. I'm sure some H1 guys felt the same about the H2. Whatever.

The H2, to be fair, has some advantages over the H3 as well. Clearance (and hugely so between the wheels), smoother ride, more useable interior room, more attractive interior styling (personal opinoin), a far smoother/more tucked up underbody, and it has no peer (H1 guys may say the H1 is its superior) in the panache department. No other vehicle at any price would make me grin like a 6 year old kid on christmas every morning, or make me sneak out of work to chuckle at its muddiness or its chrome glinting in the sunlight.

But griping at the H3 is both a bit silly (as there really is no justifiable reason to insult the truck), and probably counterproductive.

How many H2 buyers got their truck, loved it, and dreamt of having an H1? probably 1/3 to 1/2. What percentage of those can afford an H1? Probably 90%. What percentage of that 1/3 to 1/2 actually acted on it? Probably <5%

why? maybe the H1 just didn't have enough to offer, but maybe... all the crybaby crap hurled at H2s from the H1 camp just put people off. I'd have already bought one if i hadn't gotten so sick of reading that junk. Maybe a more positive 'tude from that crowd and we'd still have big, gnarly, military hummers as an option.

Dude, and all you AE or whatever H3 flamers, just don't make the H2 guys that lame. Have a coke and a smile and enjoy your truck.

[Tex_h2]

If you would read the title or the post above you, you would see this thread is about the H2. But, like you do with all your posts you bring the H3 into it because you are obviously threatened by it.

You know... for someone who bought their first Hummer only about a month ago, didn't give two ****s about the company prior and probably didn't even know what an H3 was until joining this board, you sure think you are quite the Hummer expert, don't you? :confused: :lame:

Why do you continue to be a pain in my ass....and I've been involved with the hummer corporation since 1997.

[NEOCON1]

:lame: H3's Rock!!!! , dont be a hater :p


Hummers = :beerchug:

[31_bandits]

Pleezzzz... At the end of the day your H2 may be assembled by AMG, but it's a GM parts bin truck.

Unless you have an early H2, it will even say it is manufactured by GM on the door label.

the H1 is a parts bin truck to a great extent also. it had to be. no company the size of AMG can reach back adn completely, from scratch, build a small # of 100% unique machines.

The question was one of assembly, not of parts origin or "purity", etc.

[Tex_h2]

Pleezzzz... At the end of the day your H2 may be assembled by AMG, but it's a GM parts bin truck.

Unless you have an early H2, it will even say it is manufactured by GM on the door label.


No on the door Handle, it was MFG by AMG for GM, and yes it has many GM parts on it.........I KNOW THAT!

What I said was they stuck with the idea of producing a BIG, MEAN LOOKING BIG BLOCK, NO AERO-DYNAMICS......

And you H3 owners....piss off I wasn't bashing your precious baby, merely stating an opinion about the three HUMMER'S.:twak:

[31_bandits]

Why is it you disagree with everyone, even when they are agreeing with you? ;)

i wasn't aware of such a policy, but i'm checking the rulebook. :D


The H1's parts-bin origin is something that i think its fair to observe from time to time. To read dedicated H1 forums would lead one to believe that the truck was hewn from a solid slab, by very manly men, of manhood itself, with no other ingredient.

lol

[dеiтайожни]

Why do you continue to be a pain in my ass....

My apologies for not rolling over and making this experience easy for you. If you are going to act like a Hummer hating troll, I'm going to treat you like one. Don't like it? Go **** yourself, no one is forcing or even asking you to express your opinion about the H3 in every thread. Listen to your fellow H2 owners.

[Tex_h2]

My apologies for not rolling over and making this experience easy for you. If you are going to act like a Hummer hating troll, I'm going to treat you like one. Don't like it? Go **** yourself, no one is forcing or even asking you to express your opinion about the H3 in every thread. Listen to your fellow H2 owners.

:lame:

You know I think you need a great big hug (:grouphug: )


And I don't hate HUMMER'S H1 OR H2 .........Just that little thing you drive ......what's the name........H3

[Hummer Guy]

i understand where you are coming from, marin. But its a cool story, a little closer to the roots of the hummers, and i think that factory really meant something to the town it was built in, and it would be a shame for GM to send production to mexico city to save 20 bucks. I'd rather just pay the 20 bucks extra and get a truck made in indiana.

This wasn't an H3 thing, i wasn't knocking H3s.
X2 -- the plant opening was a huge deal, creating more jobs for a city that wasn't exactly known for manufacturing and a source for new jobs (at least since the early 1900s with industrial companies like Uniroyal, which had been abandoned and was imploded some years ago)...it puts them on the national/global map for something the city can be proud of...I'd be pretty disappointed to see them take production elsewhere, but I couldn't see why they would -- the plant can keep up with production (in some cases they have to slow down because demand has lowered), the plant is still 'new' when compared to some of the old MI plants, is centrally located for U.S. distribution, and they aren't in an expensive part of the country by any means...I wouldn't even worry about them moving it...and I don't think we'd see many differences if the factory worker's paychecks said GM or AMG, and neither would the workers...

[dеiтайожни]

And I don't hate HUMMER'S H1 OR H2.........Just that little thing you drive ......what's the name........H3

Hate to break it to you, but that H3 is a Hummer. You hate it, that makes you a Hummer hater, my statement remains accurate.

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19940

'nuff said. ;)

[f5fstop]

Hate to break it to you, but that H3 is a Hummer. You hate it, that makes you a Hummer hater, my statement remains accurate.

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19940

'nuff said. ;)

Very logical to me...:iagree:

[Tex_h2]

Hate to break it to you, but that H3 is a Hummer. You hate it, that makes you a Hummer hater, my statement remains accurate.

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19940

'nuff said. ;)


What that's it........Only 24 people hate me......:lame:

question: Does that make up the entire H3 population?


And can't we all just get alone....":grouphug: "

[dеiтайожни]

What that's it........Only 24 people hate me......:lame:

question: Does that make up the entire H3 population?


And can't we all just get alone....":grouphug: "


Actually that's 82.76%, and polls on here are a pretty accurate representation of the global population.

I'm going to assume you meant get along. Sure, why not? If you go back to school, grades 1-12 and pass (sort of like a Billy Madison thing). And you learn to comprehend what you type/say/think/believe, I'll give that get along thing some thought.

[working Hummer]

I just want to say I love all you Hummer owners :grouphug: and all of you guys fighting is giving me an upset stomach. :crying:I've got to get some Tums............................Ok I'm back. I just wan't to say in closing that my '03 was built by AM General so "DE-DE-DE":D

[DDWH]

I just want to say I love all you Hummer owners :grouphug: and all of you guys fighting is giving me an upset stomach. :crying:I've got to get some Tums............................Ok I'm back. I just wan't to say in closing that my '03 was built by AM General so "DE-DE-DE":D

:iagree:

[dеiтайожни]

:iagree:

And for the record I'm not fighting. Tex_h2 is simply my semester project for my psychology class, it's on elitism and posers. ;)

[Tex_h2]

:iagree:

And for the record I'm not fighting. Tex_h2 is simply my semester project for my psychology class, it's on elitism and posers. ;)



:jump: :lame:

[Tex_h2]

I just wan't to say in closing that my '03 was built by AM General so "DE-DE-DE":D

:iagree:

[f5fstop]

What that's it........Only 24 people hate me......:lame:

question: Does that make up the entire H3 population?


And can't we all just get alone....":grouphug: "

I didn't vote:D, and I won't vote, since I try to get along. However, from reading your posts, it does appear you are a Hummer hater. Maybe in your mind you only hate H3s, but those are Hummers, whether you like it or not.
So yes, can't we all get along, but to do that, you have to stop hating one of the Hummer models.:D
On the other hand, I don't care, it's a free country. Not everyone is going to like the H3, as not everyone is going to like the H2, H1, Corvettte, Viper, etc.

[Tex_h2]

I didn't vote:D, and I won't vote, since I try to get along. However, from reading your posts, it does appear you are a Hummer hater. Maybe in your mind you only hate H3s, but those are Hummers, whether you like it or not.
So yes, can't we all get along, but to do that, you have to stop hating one of the Hummer models.:D
On the other hand, I don't care, it's a free country. Not everyone is going to like the H3, as not everyone is going to like the H2, H1, Corvettte, Viper, etc.

Ok, answer me this...Why does someone have to be a hater if he dislikes a certain brand or make?

Does it really bother you that I dislike H3?

Does it really matter either way??

So, what you are saying is that I need to Love H1, H2 and H3 and whatever they plan on making next, just because I own a Hummer is that what you are trying to say?

Because, in that case this place isn't a group or a forum, but rather a "CULT"

[Gunzz]

I don't want to sound like I am knocking the H3 but in my eyes there is no comparison between the H3 and the H2. My H2 was recently in for normal service and I was given an H3 to use for the two days. The H3 definitely does not have adequate power for me, and I felt like I had to stand on the gas pedal to keep up with traffic leaving a red light. I also could not see any button for a rear locker. Don't know if it has one or not.

I have wheeled all my life except for the last few years due to family issues (money), but I have found the H2 to be suited excellent (from the factory) for off road use. Many argue it's rough on gas. Well yes it is. But so was any truck I owned way before the H2. Hey, maybe I am old (44) and think my H2 is an awesome piece if factory machinery. Well I do. But let's keep it that way. No Chevy dealer making an H2. I'll have to move on then. But if things stay the same as now another NEW H2 purchase is on the horizon for me.

[Gunzz]

Real quick I would like to point out that I did take the loaner H3 off road and found that the turning radius and the smaller size to be good. However I am still stuck on my H2.

[Tex_h2]

Real quick I would like to point out that I did take the loaner H3 off road and found that the turning radius and the smaller size to be good. However I am still stuck on my H2.


Thanks, its nice to hear someone else comment on the H3 not be all that wonderful.

[dеiтайожни]

There is a difference between dislike and hate. You're consumed by hatred over an inanimate object, it's in every one of your posts. If a topic has nothing to do with an H3, you bring it in (ie: this thread), to compensate for whatever, it would appear to be money and class IMO.

I'm sure there are many people on this forum that may dislike something about one or more of the H's (Gunzz right there for example), but they aren't dumb and get all worked up and actually put in the effort to hate a vehicle like you. We leave that to the jeepers and treehuggers to waste their energy on.

Not to mention, you are on a Hummer forum, genius. I personally don't give a **** if you like the H3 or not, but you piss, moan and fill the board with your hatred of it in every thread, if you expressed the same feelings about the H1 or the H2, I'd still be telling you this. I told you, if you are going to act like a troll, you're going to get treated like one. You just don't get it and it's very sad to have someone like you in the Hummer community.

And now for your response that demonstrates your lack of ability to comprehend.... :rolleyes:

[NEOCON1]

Thanks, its nice to hear someone else comment on the H3 not be all that wonderful.

:violin: :twak: :OWNED: :p silly H2ers ;) the odd numbers rule

[marin8703]

Tex_h2, why do you enjoy being a prick? You say the H3 is ruining Hummers reputation. What about the H2 what that do to the Hummer rep for offroading when it was released. It went from a serious offroad machine to a bling fest (mostly because of hollywood), because thats what most H2 are bling machines, aside from the few offroaders in comparison to the general owner population. So why dont you lay off. I personally love the H1, H2 and H3.

dеiтайожни's poll results are clear of what people think of you, or at least the way you come accross online.

[Tex_h2]

There is a difference between dislike and hate. You're consumed by hatred over an inanimate object, it's in every one of your posts. If a topic has nothing to do with an H3, you bring it in (ie: this thread), to compensate for whatever, it would appear to be money and class IMO.

I'm sure there are many people on this forum that may dislike something about one or more of the H's (Gunzz right there for example), but they aren't dumb and get all worked up and actually put in the effort to hate a vehicle like you. We leave that to the jeepers and treehuggers to waste their energy on.

Not to mention, you are on a Hummer forum, genius. I personally don't give a **** if you like the H3 or not, but you piss, moan and fill the board with your hatred of it in every thread, if you expressed the same feelings about the H1 or the H2, I'd still be telling you this. I told you, if you are going to act like a troll, you're going to get treated like one. You just don't get it and it's very sad to have someone like you in the Hummer community.

And now for your response that demonstrates your lack of ability to comprehend.... :rolleyes:

Hey, why don't you just f--k off......I'm tired of listening to your almighty answers.....

"Im not worthy"

[dеiтайожни]

Hey, why don't you just f--k off......I'm tired of listening to your almighty answers.....

"Im not worthy"

:confused: I'm just trying to help you make sense of your pathetic existence. No one is forcing you to read this board, are they? Are you being kept here against your will?

[f5fstop]

Ok, answer me this...Why does someone have to be a hater if he dislikes a certain brand or make? Your comments that I have read make me believe that you "hate" the H3. Thus, if you "hate" a H3, which is a Hummer, you hate Hummers. If you dislike the H3, that is not "hate." You also come across as a person who thinks that H3 owners are low-life's because they decided to purchase the H3 versus the H2. So, we H3 owner's have a view of you that may not be accurate, but is based upon your postings on this board.

Does it really bother you that I dislike H3? Hell no. I really could care less what you think; I'm just making an observation. Read my previous post....
"On the other hand, I don't care, it's a free country. Not everyone is going to like the H3, as not everyone is going to like the H2, H1, Corvette, Viper, etc."



Does it really matter either way?? DISLIKE: a feeling of aversion or disapproval. HATE: intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury b : extreme dislike or antipathy : LOATHING. Yes, there is a difference.

So, what you are saying is that I need to Love H1, H2 and H3 and whatever they plan on making next, just because I own a Hummer is that what you are trying to say? NO, I'm just saying you are a Hummer Hater, if you HATE the H3. I would never purchase a Cobalt, but I don't hate it. I dislike it from a personal point of view.

Because, in that case this place isn't a group or a forum, but rather a "CULT" No, it is a forum of Hummer owners, who may not like each model produced by Hummer, may not ever purchase another model produced by Hummer, but do not hate the other models; they just dislike them. Some may purchase an H3 due to cost, some may purchase due to size, some may purchase due to fuel mileage, some may purchase due to their dislike of the other model(s), but most purchase due to their own reasons, and none are wrong or none are correct. From my personal perspective, the H2 was just too large for me and my Malamute. No need for a large vehicle, and was not looking for speed in an SUV. In addition, since the highest vehicle I have ever owned was a Heep, the jump to something like the H3 was drastic.
Will I never purchase a H2? No, I can't say never, but right now, the H3 is perfect for me. And I may downsize when the H4 hits the market.
You evidently love the H2, maybe we should have some H1 owners jump in and ask did you purchase your H2 due to costs, fuel mileage, or likes or dislikes of the models.
:yawn: :yawn: :yawn:

[HummBebe]

And I don't hate HUMMER'S H1 OR H2 .........Just that little thing you drive ......what's the name........H3

You are the dyfunctional family member we all hate to be around during the Holidays. Pompous, opinionated, probably drunk and obnoxious.

You think expressing your opinion about H3's in this manner is appropriate???

You have no class as far as I can tell, and your manners are atrocious.

Please move on...you are not Welcome here.


http://www.animationmagazine.net/images/articles/trolls_dic_150.gif

Troll

[H2Finally]

it is a forum of Hummer owners, who may not like each model produced by Hummer, may not ever purchase another model produced by Hummer, but do not hate the other models; they just dislike them. Some may purchase ... due to cost, some may purchase due to size, some may purchase due to fuel mileage, some may purchase due to their dislike of the other model(s), but most purchase due to their own reasons, and none are wrong or none are correct.:perfect10s:

[Tex_h2]

F--king Eh!


Oh no your fellow H3'ers are being attack lets all head over to the H2 Forum to help out....."they have Beer!!!"


Ok, to response to someone............I don't Hate H3.....I just really really really DISLIKE THEM

Actually; I do like two items............I do like the seat colors or design, and it looks very much like the seat's in the 2006 H1

And I do like the sound they make when I drive over them.......HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA:giggling: :giggling: :jump: :perfect10s: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

[H2Finally]

Tex, you don't come to a Hummer forum and knock around other Hummer owners just because.

Because that makes you a moron.

Just like all the H1 owners that comes here just to say "yours aren't the real Hummers" -- they're also morons, and will also be chased off this forum.

I drive an H2, I probably won't buy a H3. I stay in the H2 section when I want to discuss H2s, and go to the H3 section when I want to interact with some of the cool H3 owners. And the H3 owners do exactly the same.

Because we are all real Hummer owners.

"Real" Hummer owners band together because we have enough haters as it is out there.

I'd be surprised if you don't trade out of your Hummer in 6 months, with your attitude.

[Tex_h2]

I'd be surprised if you don't trade out of your Hummer in 6 months, with your attitude.


This is what I can't understand about yourself or one or two others in here, you merely say that we are a rare breed and must stick together no matter what. Just because I "dislike" the H3 model doesn't mean I'll get rid of my own Hummer because I'm disgusted of another model.

It?s like saying, I own a 911 Turbo Porsche, but I'm a hater because I dislike and would never buy a "SUV" Porsche.

All of your arguments are the same, none of you can come up with anything else to say......but you can all agree that I'm a "so-called hater!"

[HummBebe]

I'd drive all the way to Texas to outwheel you in your H2.

There are many H2 owners on this forum that I love and respect....you are just an A$$.

Lets see some pics of you wheeling your 2. Oh, don't have any, I figured, web wheeler, just keep talking out your A$$, it suits you.


GFY.

[f5fstop]

F--king Eh!


Oh no your fellow H3'ers are being attack lets all head over to the H2 Forum to help out....."they have Beer!!!"


Ok, to response to someone............I don't Hate H3.....I just really really really DISLIKE THEM

Actually; I do like two items............I do like the seat colors or design, and it looks very much like the seat's in the 2006 H1

And I do like the sound they make when I drive over them.......HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA:giggling: :giggling: :jump: :perfect10s: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

Yes, we do visit the H2 forum, then again, you have tried to stir things up in the H3 forum:
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19387
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14053
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20130
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19560

that so-called sound the H3 makes when it is run over by your might black H2, is it similar to the sound it made when running over that really high parking block?:dancingbanana:
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26623&d=1154847060

[H2Finally]

It’s like saying, I own a 911 Turbo Porsche, but I'm a hater because I dislike and would never buy a "SUV" Porsche.Nothing wrong with that, your perogative.

It's when you join a Porsche board and make it a point to insult the Cayenne owners, that you become a moron.

How difficult was that to understand?

[31_bandits]

H3s boldly declaring their trucks superior to H2s isn't much better than H2 drivers ripping on H3s, and at least as assinine.


On a related note, i wonder which responses to the poll are from H2 drivers, and which are from whoever else?

[H2Finally]

H3s boldly declaring their trucks superior to H2s isn't much better than H2 drivers ripping on H3s, and at least as assinine.Agreed, when such behavior's unprovoked. Otherwise it's just a way to shut up the e-wheelers.

[dеiтайожни]

H3s boldly declaring their trucks superior to H2s isn't much better than H2 drivers ripping on H3s, and at least as assinine.


On a related note, i wonder which responses to the poll are from H2 drivers, and which are from whoever else?

Lucky for us there isn't a Tex_h3, so we don't have that problem as well. For the poll... it doesn't say you need to own an H2! Maybe you should just repost the poll. This one is well taken over. ;)

[Tex_h2]

I'd drive all the way to Texas to outwheel you in your H2.

There are many H2 owners on this forum that I love and respect....you are just an A$$.

Lets see some pics of you wheeling your 2. Oh, don't have any, I figured, web wheeler, just keep talking out your A$$, it suits you.


GFY.

If I wanted a "wheeler" as you say it ...I'd buy a H3, not because you say its better off-road...but rather I don't care what I do to it.....the or a Jeep

[HummBebe]

g...r....a....s....p...i...n...g :giggling:

[ROX]

But no one who wheels would be dumb enough to say that, only the web wheelers ;) :DI think trucks with lots of Chrome wheel better than ones all blacked out, but I'd never say it out loud.:dancingbanana:

[31_bandits]

I think trucks with lots of Chrome wheel better than ones all blacked out, but I'd never say it out loud.:dancingbanana:

i have to agree. chrome and its unique anti-gravitational properties are an overwhelming advantage on most situations.

[31_bandits]

But no one who wheels would be dumb enough to say that, only the web wheelers ;) :D

and the mechanics at the nearest hummer dealer

[Big Z]

No on the door Handle, it was MFG by AMG for GM, and yes it has many GM parts on it.........I KNOW THAT!

What I said was they stuck with the idea of producing a BIG, MEAN LOOKING BIG BLOCK, NO AERO-DYNAMICS......



BIG BLOCK Huh?...I'd sure like to see a Pic Of That BIG BLOCKED H2!?? ...Otherwise Kid!, get your Da Da to Explain the Difference! :twak: :giggling:

[Alan06SUT]

But no one who wheels would be dumb enough to say that, only the web wheelers ;) :D

:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

[Tex_h2]

BIG BLOCK Huh?...I'd sure like to see a Pic Of That BIG BLOCKED H2!?? ...Otherwise Kid!, get your Da Da to Explain the Difference! :twak: :giggling:


Hey ****-for-brains,
Not a Big block (like engine) ....but big block (like a brick) can you understand me know...(I tried to type in words that your Small MIND would understand)

[31_bandits]

That's the same as the Toyota salesmen telling customers the FJC will kick a Hummer's ass. Just made up fantasyland dreams...

Thats how i feel about it. That and the one that tells me that from time to time is thinking about buying an H3. :yawn:

I don't know much about the big rocks you guys all seem to prefer wheeling on (moab or that recent ******* event), actually i don't know anything about them.

But for the wheeling to be found up here, an H3 wouldn't be nearly as well off as an H2 (at least with me driving both) if for no reason other than those cross pieces on the frame which would get me hung up on everything, and be subject to alot of impacts when rock pile crawling.

Its like the Rubi with its weirdly and illogically shaped mid-body protection, which kills clearance and is sort of shaped like a scoop. Like its designed to dig into things and get you hung up/slow you down (which it does). Maybe the Rubi would be the cats meow in moab or something, but its a bit out of its element in a gravel pit.

[phazer42]

this has got to be one of the funnies threads that I have read on this forum!!!

:violin: :violin: :violin:

first H1 owners are criticized because they think that their trucks are superior to all others.... this, of course was deemed by the H2 owners... whom, on the other hand have banished the H3 as a "Hummer" and how the H2 is supreme..... too funny.... oh and don't forget to add $$ into it... because 90% of the H2 owners according to some can afford a new H1... when in actuality less then 10% of the US population can "afford" a vehicle that costs $150,000..... that is if you buy it new which most owners don't.... so used, yea its probably true due to the vast amounts of used H1's selling for what a new H2 goes for....

wow... the hml doesn't get into this long of a pissing match.... very funny to read....

:beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug:

Scott
'01 HMCO

[ROX]

i have to agree. chrome and its unique anti-gravitational properties are an overwhelming advantage on most situations.

I'm thinking of a number, the number of tie rods a certain blingmobile broke...;) :D :D

Yes, and they're in the garage hanging as TROPHIES! But that's all that's ever broken, no steering shafts, CV joints or differentials.....yet.:D

This poll stinks.:twak: This guy does not play well with others.

[31_bandits]

this has got to be one of the funnies threads that I have read on this forum!!!

:violin: :violin: :violin:

first H1 owners are criticized because they think that their trucks are superior to all others.... this, of course was deemed by the H2 owners... whom, on the other hand have banished the H3 as a "Hummer" and how the H2 is supreme..... too funny.... oh and don't forget to add $$ into it... because 90% of the H2 owners according to some can afford a new H1... when in actuality less then 10% of the US population can "afford" a vehicle that costs $150,000..... that is if you buy it new which most owners don't.... so used, yea its probably true due to the vast amounts of used H1's selling for what a new H2 goes for....

wow... the hml doesn't get into this long of a pissing match.... very funny to read....

:beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug:

Scott
'01 HMCO

Hey Scott,

i suspect the vast majority of H2 owners respect H3s and realize the pros and cons of each, and the same for H1 owners. The H1 bashing would be me, so i shall attempt to address.

the example of H1 drivers ripping on H2s is, in my simple opinion, extremely relevant as i've always found that particularily lame. The jeep or 'yota crowd is one thing, but people driving bigger, rarer, more expensive things that probably never drew less attention whining at H2s just made an exceptionally minimal amount of sense.

But i diverge from my point. I think that example (and i gather from reading these forums at times that i'm not the only H2 driver who ever felt that way) - H1 drivers going all FUH2 at H2s - is very relevant because it could perhaps remind H2 drivers how H3-bashing might sound to H3 people, and i think that the H3 bashing by some fakes and whoever else is only going to harm the H2 in the long run, the way that i suspect the H1 attitude toward the H2 harmed that truck. Believe me no love will come to the H2 from having its owners bash H3s.

I once read on some H1 forum or other a post by an H1 driver who offered that he thought the H2 was the greatest thing since sliced bread (i paraphrase) because it would bring a whole new crowd of people into H1 ownership. And with that would be more parts, more used trucks, more accessories, and the original hummer would endure.

Well, maybe he would have been right with a different attitude from the vocal few.

And, simply, i am going to be pretty bummed if the H2 follows the H1 into oblivion. And i think that hummer drivers ripping on FJs ( if i was an FJ driver i would take a screenshot of the "other 4x4" board and have it bronzed), and H2 drivers ripping on H3s are a step in that direction.

Bandits

[31_bandits]

Also, I didn't mean to criticize H1 owners for thinking their trucks are superior. I have no problem with jeepers or H3ers or Yota guys thinking their stuff is "the best". Taht's part of the fun in being an enthusiast of anything.

I meant to criticize them for going jeep and throwing up all the generic insults repeated everywhere on the web.

And my concerns about the future of the H2 are expressed here, and wherever else i may have offered them, sincerely.

[31_bandits]

This guy does not play well with others.

yeah, you're probably right. but i'm mildly amusing on teusdays

:D

[NEOCON1]

I'd drive all the way to Texas to outwheel you in your H2.

There are many H2 owners on this forum that I love and respect....you are just an A$$.

Lets see some pics of you wheeling your 2. Oh, don't have any, I figured, web wheeler, just keep talking out your A$$, it suits you.


GFY.



X2

lets see some pics of wheelin, spottin , breakin $hit , and all the crap we all do together :rant: put up or ship out

:OWNED: by the Queen of the 3bies :dancingbanana:

[westhillsat]

I like H1's, H2's and H3's :excited:

Rox's bling ROCKS :beerchug:

[Tex_h2]

It?s funny how some of you talk about Hummers. Sure, I can fully understand someone defending there type of Truck/SUV.

The H1, Alpha or Humvee is a true Hummer, a superior class of its own. One of the best 4x4 vehicles in the world. Next to the Land Rover (which has been off-road-ing in the worst conditions for many years)

The H2 is very similar to the H1, but then again not even close.

The H3, totally different. The baby of the group. But, and listen.....but still has the hummer name. Also, because of its size and weight I have no doubt it does a great job off road. Just like the Sidekick/Samurai did on the trails.

Another thing I'd like to add, you folks go on and on about Hummers and Off-Road-ing. And how H1, H2 and H3 are the best and Jeeps shouldn't even bother coming out. But, what you forget is Jeep (in North America) started it all. So instead of bashing each other (like many of you have said I do) perhaps you should stop bashing on Jeeps. But, rather tip your hat to a fellow 4x4!

[HummBebe]

"Jeeps shouldn't even bother coming out" ? Of where....the closet???


Come on, no one here said that.....:jump:

[phazer42]

Hey Scott,

i suspect the vast majority of H2 owners respect H3s and realize the pros and cons of each, and the same for H1 owners. The H1 bashing would be me, so i shall attempt to address.

the example of H1 drivers ripping on H2s is, in my simple opinion, extremely relevant as i've always found that particularily lame. The jeep or 'yota crowd is one thing, but people driving bigger, rarer, more expensive things that probably never drew less attention whining at H2s just made an exceptionally minimal amount of sense.

But i diverge from my point. I think that example (and i gather from reading these forums at times that i'm not the only H2 driver who ever felt that way) - H1 drivers going all FUH2 at H2s - is very relevant because it could perhaps remind H2 drivers how H3-bashing might sound to H3 people, and i think that the H3 bashing by some fakes and whoever else is only going to harm the H2 in the long run, the way that i suspect the H1 attitude toward the H2 harmed that truck. Believe me no love will come to the H2 from having its owners bash H3s.

I once read on some H1 forum or other a post by an H1 driver who offered that he thought the H2 was the greatest thing since sliced bread (i paraphrase) because it would bring a whole new crowd of people into H1 ownership. And with that would be more parts, more used trucks, more accessories, and the original hummer would endure.

Well, maybe he would have been right with a different attitude from the vocal few.

And, simply, i am going to be pretty bummed if the H2 follows the H1 into oblivion. And i think that hummer drivers ripping on FJs ( if i was an FJ driver i would take a screenshot of the "other 4x4" board and have it bronzed), and H2 drivers ripping on H3s are a step in that direction.

Bandits

In the past on one forum I know that I have stated that I am glad that GM has brought more models to the Hummer brand as it has expanded the commrodery... the thing that irritates me is that most of the owners H2 or H3 don't "get-it" such as the jeepers that wave, so do H1 owners, H2 and H3 owners see it as another "car" not as a serious off-road machine....

but beyond all of that... I like all of the Hummers and wouldn't mind owning an H2 or H3 but right now I don't really see the need so I will stick with my HMCO.... see ya on the trails!

Scott
'01 HMCO

[Gunzz]

Can't we all just get along ? :beerchug:

I think this should settle the H3-H2-H1 difference for all of us. Here is the scenario. You are alone in wilderness driving your H2, and at least 20 miles from anything or anyone. You make a turn and PLOP your H2 is stuck. You try and try and can't get it moving. Well here comes someone in an H3 and of course they offer to try and pull you out. What do you do??

A. Tell them to piss off because they have an H3.
B. Tell them there is no way in hell an H3 can get them out.
C. Start walking towards that gas station because you don't have cell
service.
D. Graciously accept the offer, get pulled out, and drive into town and
enjoy a beer with your new buddy.

I am going with D, like I think most of you would. And I think that would be vice-versa for an H2 pulling out and H3.

[cmd]

This is **** ** killin me LOL,, i cant believe i just read that whole thread, this is the best laugh i have had in a while.

As a H2 owner my opinion is there is not much special with the construction the truck at all, maybe its me but there is not a damn thing that hasnt gone wrong with mine. It is a Gm vehicle and i cant explain what a heap it is for the the money.
It just looks Beautiful!! What a damn shame Gm had their hands in it.

Sorry boys, i still like it just not to proud of the workmanship.

As for the H3 sorry guys,, "Glorified Jeep Cheroke" :giggling: . cant comment other than that as i dont know anything re the truck, i just though of it as a everyday driver,family vehicle. Which is quite fine.

Sorry i just had to throw that in to keep the pot stirred.:jump: LOL

[31_bandits]

well thank you for stirring the pot. the "outsider giggling at thread" bandwagon appears to have built up a head of steam. :)

I would have to say that my complaints with the H2 are design or realism ones, no build problems. The hard plastic inside should have been gasketed to prevent rattles from building up the more you beat on the truck, it should have just had a front locker, and it really needs a 6 speed tranny for lower 1st gear and better econ. And a stainless skidder.

But as far as problems go, i haven't had any worth mentioning despite a reasonable amount of abuse. I think alot of that was '03s and a function of rushing the factory into action, perhaps?

[HummBebe]

As for the H3 sorry guys,, "Glorified Jeep Cheroke" :giggling: . cant comment other than that as i dont know anything re the truck, i just though of it as a everyday driver,family vehicle. Which is quite fine.



OK, I'll bite, you will make a comment like that and then say you don't know anything about the truck???

Please humor me and make the comparison, I really want to know.

[Sewie]

I don't know much about the big rocks you guys all seem to prefer wheeling on (moab or that recent ******* event), actually i don't know anything about them.

But for the wheeling to be found up here, an H3 wouldn't be nearly as well off as an H2 (at least with me driving both) if for no reason other than those cross pieces on the frame which would get me hung up on everything, and be subject to alot of impacts when rock pile crawling.


Maybe I missed it, but have you ever posted pics of your rig offroad?

[cmd]

sewie, i'll make sure to send some after i replace my Tranny,, lol
Re the pic on your public profile, thats some crazy **** your doin it that truck, maybe i have the wrong idea re the H3.

Hope you dont have my luck and break all your ****.

[Sewie]

sewie, i'll make sure to send some after i replace my Tranny,, lol
Re the pic on your public profile, thats some crazy **** your doin it that truck, maybe i have the wrong idea re the H3.

Hope you dont have my luck and break all your ****.

Wasn't directed at you but okay. :D Always like seeing pics of Hummers on the trails.

[31_bandits]

Maybe I missed it, but have you ever posted pics of your rig offroad?

Actually, i've been waiting for anybody to ask about any picture of my truck at all, which i don't think i've ever posted except underbody damage at ******* and for paragons steering height thing. I figgad i was too boring or something. But no, as of now i've never done the web picture thing.

It wasn't an insult to the H3, just a note of differences. That's my jeep i also wasn't insulting. ;)