Aha!!! uniblack... Well, Well, Well...

[HUMMERDOGG]

Well, it looks like the posts to uniblack, back in October, in response to his questions of "What needs the most improvement on your H2" and "What would you update on your H2" have ended up at this website...

http://www.hummerlemon.com/mailbag.htm


It seems many of our posts have been converted into "excerpts from emails received" from H2 owners who have "written-in" to detail problems they have with their H2. Whoever runs the site (uniblack???) basically lifted our responses in uniblack's two threads and pasted them there.

[ZeroTolerance]

I think that we should all start emailing them and sign that email addy up for all the spam and opt ins that we can find.... What a POS Jack Ass.... Takes all kinds.... See I knew he was FOS from the very beginning.... I noticed that a few comments from here were on there and alot of the pics were on there too... Someone should do something about this... Fast......

[argonaut]

See. See everybody! DRTFN and Zero were right. You guys all harped on them for being jumpy, but look at what happened. You have to trust the instincts of troll hunters. They knew he was a troll, and the guy even managed to fool Jason. I think you guys need to respect Zero and DRTY more now. :P

[argonaut]

I have an idea, why doesn't Jason sue this guy using that crappy pseudo lawyer from the other thread... muwahahahaha

[Kevin B]

What a cheesy web site, the link from this site will most likely be the most action this guy has had in a while.

[KenP]

Tie rod pic was removed. Was it one of our members?

Black Lingenfelter Lux

[argonaut]

Sounds like you are pissed Alec. Let's find him and kick his ass. Better yet, let's sue him for stealing intellectual property. Yeah, 100 pounds would be a good workout, not something to bitch about. Plus I like the R rating of this forum. It reflects the owners pretty well. The H2 is an R rated truck. If you can't handle it, don't drive one.

[PARAGON]

Maybe it's BADRAP who has this site up?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BADRAP:
I am getting all the necessary paperwork together to file a LEMON suit, so we shall see.
Taking it back tomorrow to drop it off again, wonder how long they will have it this time???
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Oh well... Maybe time to think about something else.....The list had grown to over 20 misc things that are wrong with my H2...
ANY LAWYERS OUT THERE??????????????

_BADRAP_
03 H2, Lux, Pewter
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[unaslob]

well look at that. the **** has been stirred.. and the website is down... congrats guys..

LET ME BE THE FIRST TO APOLOGIZE TO ZERO AND DIRTY. Sorry guys, you were right.

unaslob

Corsa Sport exhaust(offroad 'tip'), Gobi rack w/ lights & w/roof mounted tire w/ ladder, Warn Winch with rear power, Dual Wolo Airhorns w/ lanyard valve, Hadley Aircompressor 130PSI, 14" airtank, front and rear quick disconnects for air, Cobra 75 WX CB, Dual 4' Firestik fiberglass whips, front tinted windows, 7" Homer Simpson decal (teehee)!

[Easy Ed]

Looks like the site might have been pulled, went to it earlier but cannot go to it now???

Did a NEO Trace on the link and found this, not sure if it will help but here ya go.

Target: www.hummerlemon.com (http://www.hummerlemon.com)
Date: Sun Nov 16 14:42:05 2003
Nodes: 3

Node Data
Node Net Who IP Address Location Node Name
3 1 1 64.202.163.216 Tempe ip-64-202-163-216.secureserver.net

Packet Data
Node High Low Avg Tot Lost
3 ---- ---- ---- 2 2

Network Data
Network id#: 1

OrgName: Go Daddy Software, Inc.
OrgID: GDS-31
Address: 14455 N Hayden Road
Address: Suite 226
City: Scottsdale
StateProv: AZ
PostalCode: 85260
Country: US

NetRange: 64.202.160.0 - 64.202.175.255
CIDR: 64.202.160.0/20
NetName: GO-DADDY-SOFTWARE-INC
NetHandle: NET-64-202-160-0-1
Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: WSC1.JOMAX.NET
NameServer: WSC2.JOMAX.NET
Comment:
RegDate: 2002-10-22
Updated: 2003-05-26

TechHandle: NOC124-ARIN
TechName: Network Operations Center
TechPhone: +1-480-505-8809
TechEmail: noc@godaddy.com

NOCHandle: NOC124-ARIN
NOCName: Network Operations Center
NOCPhone: +1-480-505-8809
NOCEmail: noc@godaddy.com

AbuseHandle: ABUSE51-ARIN
AbuseName: Abuse Department
AbusePhone: +1-480-505-8809
AbuseEmail: abuse@godaddy.com

OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE51-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Abuse Department
OrgAbusePhone: +1-480-505-8809
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@godaddy.com

OrgNOCHandle: NOC124-ARIN
OrgNOCName: Network Operations Center
OrgNOCPhone: +1-480-505-8809
OrgNOCEmail: noc@godaddy.com

OrgTechHandle: NOC124-ARIN
OrgTechName: Network Operations Center
OrgTechPhone: +1-480-505-8809
OrgTechEmail: noc@godaddy.com

[argonaut]

here's what the website says now:

"Sorry folks, judging from some rather abusive email that we have been receiving over the past couple of days, our Hummer*H2 Lemon website has apparently ruffled the feathers of at least a few of the Hummer*H2 owners over at the Hummer H2 Source Discussion Forum.

So, in order to give them all a chance to calm down and realize that this website is not aimed at them personally, we have decided to temporarily take our website down.

We will however be back soon..." Hopefully not...


What a douchebag. We are ruffled because you stole our content. We are ruffled because you are a two faced liar. I'm glad you got a lemon you jackass. Serves you right.

[ZeroTolerance]

Paragon and Argo,
I can personally vouch for BADRAP, that was not his doing.. I have talked to him several times and he is very happy with the H2 that bought at Southwest and has no idea who did that.. Also I can say that he is busy doing clinic interns and is a doctor, so he would not do something like this..

I do think however that DRTYFN and I were right about this UNIBLACK character and I think that he would do something like this, I mean he came on here asking questions and talking trash and was able to fool Jason... I mean trust me anyone that will not vouch for their position with GM, and then still expects people to talk to them about issues with the H2, I think this forum opened itself up to that and he is the one that furthered the anger that is here now by posting that stuff without consent from Forum members...

[HUMMERDOGG]

All-

Well, being that BadRap just left my house a couple hours ago, I can assure you that it wasn't him. As ZT attested to, he is very happy with his H2 and would never do something like that. BTW, BadRap came over, delivered and personally installed several parts that I ordered from him (in addition to being a doctor, he also sells H2 parts and accessories as a hobby...) however, I will leave this for another discussion thread...

-Wayne

[maybe some day...]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Easy Ed:
Did a NEO Trace on the link and found this, not sure if it will help but here ya go.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Doesn't help, whoever "uniblack" is he was at least smart enough to register his site through Domains by Proxy so the ownership of the domain is hidden.

[argonaut]

i never thought it was badrap. It was that uniblack *******. I just want him to get his just desserts stealing from this forum and all. This place is like a second home to many of us (sad but true, I guess) and it really get's me fired up when somebody violates Jason's content. This stuff is the forum's property. GRRRRRRRRR http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[HUMMERDOGG]

Seth-

I just called Trey and told him that there was speculation on the H2 Forum that he was responsible for that website. He vehomently denied any association with the hummerlemon website and I have to take him at his word. I think his response to you stems more from his issues with Jason and the way the whole selling products on the forum went down.

-Wayne

[uniblack]

Hello? I don't appreciate all the attacks you guys are giving me. You have no idea what you are talking about. I was hoping that owners of H2s would offer their opinions to help future products. In no way did I ever think I was going to get such abuse from such a group of individuals. Spit in my face all you want I will not back down. I'm here in the persuit of knowledge and insight. Nothing else.

[[uniblack]]

[argonaut]

so are you denying that you have anything to do with Hummerlemon.com?

[uniblack]

Of course I am. I don't even have a clue what you're talking about. Sorry someone took information off of this forum and used it. I can see why people would blame me because of the questions I asked a few weeks back. To blame me is easy.

[[uniblack]]

[uniblack]

I just looked at the site and it looks to be someone who is not pleased with their H2. I don't own an H2 and never claimed to own an H2. Because of this, I wouldn't put up a site about how my H2 is a lemon.

[[uniblack]]

[ZeroTolerance]

UNIBLACK, you have been BLACK BALLED!!! You have been found out, and we all think it is time for you to go........

You are denying this, but tell us what you do at GM, how to call you and verify this and who your boss is, so that we know we can talk to someone in control... Verify this and you will be ok to continue here.... If not then I suggest you talk a walk....

[luckydog]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ZeroTolerance:
You are denying this, but tell us what you do at GM, how to call you and verify this and who your boss is, so that we know we can talk to someone in control... Verify this and you will be ok to continue here.... If not then I suggest you talk a walk....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Seems rather unnecessary since Jason has already proved he's legit. Who better to trust than the Admin of the site? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

If I'm not back in five minutes... wait longer!

[HUMMERDOGG]

Seth-

If you don't remember, Trey traded in the troubled gray H2 and got a new black one. Remember all his posts praising Southwest Hummer for hooking him up? Regardless, yesterday, the dude showed up in a black H2 at my house with my parts with stickers of his parts website on the H2.

Check out this thread:

http://www.elcova.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=2826088551&f=5106011751&m=7166044893&r=2496055893#2496055893

-Wayne

[This message was edited by HUMMERDOGG on 11-17-03 at 08:55 AM.]

[TBarrow]

I was looking for UniBlack's email and noticed that it was not in his information. So did he get these emails through his actual hummerlemon site????

Black H2 Adventure Series + Luxury, AirForce One intake, Throttle Body Bypass, Gobi Rack w/2" Brackets & 4 PIAA 580 Lights, Xenarc HID, Alcoa Wheels, Goodyear 37x12.50x17 MT/R, Warn 9.5Ti Thermometric Winch, DiabloSport programmer,160 Degree T-Stat, B&B Headers and exhaust, 2-7" screens in headrests with DVD player and TV Tuner.

[unaslob]

the site is back up!!!

this is one angry dude... here is a copy of an email I sent him today, in an attempt to be rational:

" I dont have a problem with someone who has had a problem with a vehicle making a website to champion their cause. I would encourage that. I do have a problem with someone taking discussions from other websites and passing it off as their own problem. most of those things you site were probably never emailed or directed towards you. so why do you choose to use their trivial problems to champion YOUR cause. They never asked you to fight for them. I understand you got screwed, and that sucks, but dont let us other hummer owners with trivial problems help you carry your cross. thank you phil "

you know what is even more intersting... only 719 ppl visited this site.. and I would be willing to gamble that almost half of the hits are b/c the site was posted on our forum..

unaslob

Corsa Sport exhaust(offroad 'tip'), Gobi rack w/ lights & w/roof mounted tire w/ ladder, Warn Winch with rear power, Dual Wolo Airhorns w/ lanyard valve, Hadley Aircompressor 130PSI, 14" airtank, front and rear quick disconnects for air, Cobra 75 WX CB, Dual 4' Firestik fiberglass whips, front tinted windows, 7" Homer Simpson decal (teehee)!

[ckhagman]

I might be way off but. Aren't most of this guys complaints that can be found on almost every damn vehicle on the road. Including ones that cost the same or more.

-Seat belts fall down between the seats, boo freaking who. I haven't seen a car manufacturer prevent that from happening yet.

- There is no cargo room. Well last time I checked any vehicle with a third row seat (excluding excursion, suburban and yukon XL) have no cargo room

- I like the picture from the passenger side that complains about drivers rear visiblity. Could this truck be right hand drive, I don't think so. Why would the driver need to see out from the passengers perspective

- passenger seat all the way up with exposed wires. Seen that many times before on a lot of different vehicles

- make sure you try out the back seat before your buy. First of all I drive I don't care about the comfort in the back. Second of all why didn't this guy research the vehicle before he bought. Did he want to be cool or something

And in closing, take the truck off-road and shut the f up. Or buy a bicycle cause he will never be happy with any thing.

Chris

Damn, anyone want to forward that on to him, Nah he will probably read it here anyway.

[ZeroTolerance]

I still say that he was not legit from day one.... I was right all along and so was DRTYFN......
I also know that some more info popped up on that site and I know that it came from this site... Copyright laws????

[unaslob]

here is the email that he sent back to me..

"Phil,

Thank you for taking the time to write us, but I am not quite sure I understand. We have no "discussions from other websites" posted on our website at hummerlemon.com which we are "passing off" as our own. And although I would hardly classify all of the problems that Hummer H2 owners have been experiencing (transfer case, rust, leaking fuel line, air bags, etc.) as "trivial" problems, I suppose it is a matter of semantics and perception. What is a "trivial" problem to you may be a "major" problem to others.

For the record, everything, and I do mean everything, contained on our website has been experienced either directly by us and/or has been communicated directly to us by other Hummer H2 owners. We are not endeavoring to coerce any other Hummer H2 owners into helping us champion our cause, either willingly or unwillingly, although we do appreciate all of the support from the other H2 owners we have heard from.

And in the end, our cause just may very well end up benefiting ALL Hummer H2 owners, yourself included, if and when GM finally decides to get off the dime and start seriously addressing some of these issues that we have. And yes, our General Motors Hummer H2 is a lemon."

unaslob

Corsa Sport exhaust(offroad 'tip'), Gobi rack w/ lights & w/roof mounted tire w/ ladder, Warn Winch with rear power, Dual Wolo Airhorns w/ lanyard valve, Hadley Aircompressor 130PSI, 14" airtank, front and rear quick disconnects for air, Cobra 75 WX CB, Dual 4' Firestik fiberglass whips, front tinted windows, 7" Homer Simpson decal (teehee)!

[luckydog]

How is everyone so sure that uniblack and the owner of the "H2 lemon" site are the same person? Unaslob, how did you get his email? I didn't see it on his profile.

If I'm not back in five minutes... wait longer!

[unaslob]

i didnt say I emailed uniblack.. I checked out the hummerlemon site and emailed the person there.. I dont know who it was. they did not sign their letter. the email address was hummerlemon something something.

unaslob

Corsa Sport exhaust(offroad 'tip'), Gobi rack w/ lights & w/roof mounted tire w/ ladder, Warn Winch with rear power, Dual Wolo Airhorns w/ lanyard valve, Hadley Aircompressor 130PSI, 14" airtank, front and rear quick disconnects for air, Cobra 75 WX CB, Dual 4' Firestik fiberglass whips, front tinted windows, 7" Homer Simpson decal (teehee)!

[luckydog]

Thanks unaslob, but I'm still confused as to why everyone jumped on uniblack. I thought he stated that he worked for GM and Jason(admin) verified this after speaking with him. Anyone? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

If I'm not back in five minutes... wait longer!

[ZeroTolerance]

Luckydog,
I could give you a phone number for GM and you can call and verify that I work there.. HAHAHA
Man I could tell you that I work anywhere I wanted to and then find a way to verify it... UNIBLACK is behind it and he will continue to reap this terror till he proves otherwise, but since he has lied about this from the get go. He will always be guilty....... There is no innocence in this case.....

[uniblack]

Interesting deduction Zero. You seem to be constucting a strong reputation for yourself on this site. Personally I've never seen one individual starved for so much attention. You don't have any idea what you are talking about. Your conclusions are based on feelings not fact. I am not the enemy.

Once again I will repeat myself for clarity. I do not own a Hummer H2 (wish I did though). I didn't create a website about the Hummer H2 I don't own to let people know it is a lemon. I don't agree that all Hummer H2s are lemons. All vehicle makes and models produce lemons. Obviously the person creating this lemon site believes they have a lemon. It is their right to speak their mind in whatever way they feel necessary. This is their way of getting attention. That is exactly what they want.

Unfortunatly, for reasons not understood, I am being degraded (by various forum members) and "black balled" (by Zero) for the actions of other people. You may think you are succeeding in your cause but as the saying goes: you're preaching to the choir.

I'm on your side. Lets keep it that way. And lets move on.

[[uniblack]]

[HUMMERDOGG]

Is this hummerlemon guy f*cking drunk. What does he mean:

"For the record, everything, and I do mean everything, contained on our website has been experienced either directly by us and/or has been communicated directly to us by other Hummer H2 owners."

Are you f*cking kidding me with that b*llsh*t? The reason he says that now is that he pulled down off his website all the qoutes he had that were lifted straight from this site. I can assure you that his little mailbag page contained nothing but responding posts to uniblacks' two questions of what we would change...

I believe in free speech just as much as the next guy, but sh*t, if you are going to have a website, at least be legitimate with its content.

-HUMMERDOGG

TROLL POACHER (I hunt trolls even if it ain't troll hunting season...)

TROLL TAXIDERMIST (For those of you who get to them before I can. I provide this service free of charge...)

[unaslob]

I have to think that someone else on this website took the time to send this guy an email... what kind of responses did you guys get...

unaslob

Corsa Sport exhaust(offroad 'tip'), Gobi rack w/ lights & w/roof mounted tire w/ ladder, Warn Winch with rear power, Dual Wolo Airhorns w/ lanyard valve, Hadley Aircompressor 130PSI, 14" airtank, front and rear quick disconnects for air, Cobra 75 WX CB, Dual 4' Firestik fiberglass whips, front tinted windows, 7" Homer Simpson decal (teehee)!

[ZeroTolerance]

I agree with you HD..Like I said from the very beginning, this guy has not proven himself to any us, but only to one person and that was Jason. Then he goes behind his back and post all those nice comments from this site and emails that he has received about issues with the H2.. Most of those posts and replies are cut and paste done from this site. I think that in and of itselfs speaks for him.

If you want the respect that you are trying to get then you will have to prove yourself to all of us, and I think with your website and all the post from this site on there, this will be hard to do... I think that you owe everyone on this site an apology and you need to go your own way.. What else you do not realize that is that all the info on this site is property of this site, when you cut and paste without permission you are commiting internet fraud.... I think that you need to realize that you have stepped off into hell by doing this and you need to take your punishment and go on about your business.... Until you prove otherwise to me and everyone else here on the forum you are a TROLL!!!!!!!!!!

Prove it or get lost.........

[Detonate]

Jesus Christ. Just shut the **** up you whiney little bitches. You guys are pathetic. Who gives a ****? I mean really. Grow up.

-Jim March
Arlington TX
2003 Red H2
Beauty is in the eye of the Beer Holder

[uniblack]

Ok, I'll bite. I'm bored too.

First you apologize to everyone for something you didn't do.

Second, find some facts that it was indeed me who did the things you claim.

[[uniblack]]

[HUMMERDOGG]

Detonate-

If I don't keep responding to this thread then how do you expect me to catch up to the number of posts you have and be an "H2 Expert"?

-HUMMERDOGG

TROLL POACHER (I hunt trolls even if it ain't troll hunting season...)

TROLL TAXIDERMIST (For those of you who get to them before I can. I provide this service free of charge...)

[Detonate]

Amen uniblack.

You want to talk about some people who don't prove anything.... There are at least 10 Consipiracy theory monkies swinging around in this thread.

-Jim March
Arlington TX
2003 Red H2
Beauty is in the eye of the Beer Holder

[uniblack]

Yeah, I'll quit whining. This is laughable.

Just trying to put the fire out with lighter fluid.

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[[uniblack]]

[uniblack]

Seems like a good time to hook up a H2 Source online multiplayer. It could be like Unreal Tournament but instead of guns we've all got H2s and we destroy each other by running over each other. Oh yeah, I guess I'd loose cause I got the lemon.

LOL

[[uniblack]]

[HUMMERDOGG]

Allright...

I give in. It's not like I ever attributed the hummerlemon website to uniblack in the first place. I merely brought to everyone's attention that there was one out there that had "excerpts" posted that were basically lifts of responses to two of uniblack's posts.

-HUMMERDOGG

TROLL POACHER (I hunt trolls even if it ain't troll hunting season...)

TROLL TAXIDERMIST (For those of you who get to them before I can. I provide this service free of charge...)

[Detonate]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by uniblack:
Seems like a good time to hook up a H2 Source online multiplayer. It could be like Unreal Tournament but instead of guns we've all got H2s and we destroy each other by running over each other. Oh yeah, I guess I'd loose cause I got the lemon.

LOL

[[uniblack]]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Get an Xbox and then get Midtown Madness 3 and we can Multiplayer race Hummer H2's! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

-Jim March
Arlington TX
2003 Red H2
Beauty is in the eye of the Beer Holder

[uniblack]

I've got an Xbox but I don't have Xbox live. That would be awesome though. We should set that up sometime.

[[uniblack]]