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ROADNOTCA
09-12-2006, 10:07 PM
Yeah I'm a Newb.
I made sure the wife said "I can drive it fine". That was a standard 3. "I" bought the ZM6. Well my wife has the arms of a bird.
So, looking into, 1. bigger S-wheel(not) 2. Tires($1K?) 3. Rack & Pinion(bingo, I think).
H3 has 17:1 ratio. My reading says C/C have 19:1 ratio base. I bought factory service manuals for both marks and the R & P(and service) looks the same.
Anybody else on the same page?
Thanks
f5fstop
09-12-2006, 10:29 PM
More information without all the abbreviations might be helpful, along with exactly what your intent is.
I know I don't want to have to read something a few times to try and decipher exactly what a person is asking.
H2Finally
09-12-2006, 11:11 PM
Fyi, F5Stop is THE H3 technical guru around here, and will genuinely try to help, if he can understand your problem.
HummBebe
09-13-2006, 12:01 AM
Yeah I'm a Newb.
I made sure the wife said "I can drive it fine". That was a standard 3.
( I think he means Base model)
Well my wife has the arms of a bird.
(she can't handle turning the truck, question is how to make it easier for her?)
So, looking into,
1. bigger S-wheel (not)
2. Tires($1K?) (smaller street tires $1,200.00)
3. Rack & Pinion (bingo, I think). H3 has 17:1 ratio. My reading (research) says C/C have 19:1 ratio base. (Can't figure this one out)
I bought factory service manuals for both marks and the R & P(and service) looks the same.
Anybody else on the same page? Yep, get her a gym membership
Thanks
You're Welcome :jump:
ChevyHighPerformance
09-13-2006, 12:32 AM
Yeah I'm a Newb.
I made sure the wife said "I can drive it fine". That was a standard 3. "I" bought the ZM6. Well my wife has the arms of a bird.
So, looking into, 1. bigger S-wheel(not) 2. Tires($1K?) 3. Rack & Pinion(bingo, I think).
H3 has 17:1 ratio. My reading says C/C have 19:1 ratio base. I bought factory service manuals for both marks and the R & P(and service) looks the same.
Anybody else on the same page?
Thanks
I didn't realize that the off road suspension package had tougher steering - I guess it's just the wider wheels making the difference. The H3 power steering pump has a slightly higher High Flow rate than colorado/canyon but the same pressure relief setting - so the pump doesn't seem to be a problem. Isn't the H3's wheels moved out farther on the frame than the colorado/canyon? Would you need longer tie rod ends?? I don't know the answer to your question, just throwing out some stuff.
lotus4s
09-13-2006, 04:24 AM
Very good Bebe, thanks for the translation......:beerchug:
f5fstop
09-13-2006, 10:51 AM
I would agree with Chevy...it might be the tires more than the steering system. Colorado has small tires when compared to the off-road tires used on the H3.
ROADNOTCA
09-13-2006, 02:40 PM
Thanks Guys(Ladies if they're here). Sorry for the abbreviations, I'm used to another Forum.
Yes I understand the difference in the steering effort between the base model tire size and the ZM6. In considering the level of difficulty to remedy, steering wheel diameter would be super easy if somebody made a bigger one. I'm ready for "E" load range tires(except $$, inflate to ~60#s) using BFG T/A KO, like those tires better anyway. Good point that was brought up is the width of a Rack & Pinion, but even then maybe that could be hidden in the adjustment range of the rod ends. Bottom line, an R&P swap seemed the easiest and probably the least $$. It looks like I could get a 10% effort reduction with R&P swap from 17:1 to 19:1, if thats true.
Thanks again.:D
timgco
09-13-2006, 06:46 PM
I think you're the first to have issues with the "tough" steering.
wouldn't it be cheaper to tell your wife to quit :crying: and drive the truck?:dancingbanana:
Unless the truck has steering issues or she has a medical condition (than I apologize) she's got some issues. The H3 steering is not hard to turn at all IMO. Even when you air the tires down for off roading. If its that tough to steer, than how does she open the door to get in?:eek:
DRTYFN
09-13-2006, 07:02 PM
I think you're the first to have issues with the "tough" steering.
No sh*t. I think they might be bird people and have little teeny bird wing arms.:jump:
DRTYFN
09-13-2006, 07:06 PM
Or they could be offspring of Hanson.:jump:
Wisha Haddan H3
09-13-2006, 07:20 PM
I don't get it. My H3 steers and turns much easier than my old 4runner. And I barely noticed the steering difference between the base and adventure pkg during my test drives.
If it's really that hard to steer, have the dealer check out the power steering before you change out the rack and pinion.
But I'm thinking the real problem is she just doesn't like the H3 (seat height, climbing in, visibility or something) but either won't admit it or doesn't have the heart to tell you. Telling you it's too hard to steer lets her off the hook and doesn't hurt your feelings.
h2co-pilot
09-13-2006, 07:26 PM
Or they could be offspring of Hanson.:jump:
HA HA! Would you like some pie?:giggling:
I still can't decipher what he is posting, it hurts, it really hurts.
ROADNOTCA
09-13-2006, 07:57 PM
No, its her. She's borderline handicap. Sometimes don't know if its physical or mental.:lame:
Steve - SanJose
09-13-2006, 08:13 PM
Prescribe some upper body exercises to build strength.
S.
fourfourto
09-13-2006, 08:38 PM
Get a steering wheel spinner( suicide knob) JC whitney has a nice one cheap that folds in when not in use,I have one on my 442 .Its good for slide/side spins and donuts.:cool: it has a open clamp so it should fit the H3's fat wheel.
Link http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2003160/c-10101/Nty-1/p-2003160/Ntx-mode+matchallpartial/N-10101/tf-Browse/s-10101/Ntk-AllTextSearchGroup?Ntt=steering+knob
ROADNOTCA
09-13-2006, 09:27 PM
But I'm thinking the real problem is she just doesn't like the H3 (seat height, climbing in, visibility or something) but either won't admit it or doesn't have the heart to tell you. Telling you it's too hard to steer lets her off the hook and doesn't hurt your feelings.She's used to a 1987 Sedan de Ville with about 40 turns L-L. She likes to be seen in it(H3), probably scared of the low outward visibility. Thanks 442, I'll get one. She'll probably surprise me and eat it up.:shhh:
I think you're the first to have issues with the "tough" steering.Atleast he didn't ask about the "loud" exhaust.:jump:
ROADNOTCA
09-13-2006, 09:56 PM
Atleast he didn't ask about the "loud" exhaust.:jump:What?:jump:
ROADNOTCA
09-13-2006, 10:10 PM
But then, she can't drive my K10 Suburban with 35s either.:OWNED:
H2Finally
09-14-2006, 02:16 AM
Atleast he didn't ask about the "loud" exhaust.:jump::jump: Talking about loud exhaust, I have a small hole in my muffler which don't bother me any... unless, I guess, if you're gingerly with the pedal... in which case, the broken metal flap vibrated real loud "RRRRRRAAAAA"... which my wife thought meant the engine was about to blow-up, when she decided to drive the H2 to the kids' soccer... :jump:
H2Finally
09-14-2006, 02:19 AM
... fit the H3's fat wheel.Btw, Roadnotca, the extra thick H3 steering wheel could very well be your wife's problem (causes more hand fatigue).
h2co-pilot
09-14-2006, 04:41 AM
:jump: Talking about loud exhaust, I have a small hole in my muffler which don't bother me any... unless, I guess, if you're gingerly with the pedal... in which case, the broken metal flap vibrated real loud "RRRRRRAAAAA"... which my wife thought meant the engine was about to blow-up, when she decided to drive the H2 to the kids' soccer... :jump:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=H2Finally
:jump:
Steve - SanJose
09-14-2006, 07:09 AM
Two days ago I had my other car serviced and they gave me a 2006 Chevy Silverado pickup rental. Super light steering with sloppy ride and handling. But at least you get the steering so light you could use 2 fingers.
S.
ROADNOTCA
09-14-2006, 12:01 PM
Btw, Roadnotca, the extra thick H3 steering wheel could very well be your wife's problem (causes more hand fatigue).Yep, that and never having been taught how to drive, like seat adjustment, S-wheel adjustment. She's the driver you want to stay away from.
wpage
09-20-2006, 12:10 AM
Buy her a tinselator for Chrismas!!:beerchug:
ROADNOTCA
09-20-2006, 12:35 AM
Buy her a tinselator for Chrismas!!:beerchug:???
Desert Dan
09-20-2006, 04:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by H2Finally
Btw, Roadnotca, the extra thick H3 steering wheel could very well be your wife's problem (causes more hand fatigue).
Most women like something thick in their hand.:giggling:
ROADNOTCA
09-20-2006, 07:53 PM
Aah, maybe thats the problem, the wheel is smaller than what she's used to.
You have just entered the torpedo zone.:jump:
ROADNOTCA
09-20-2006, 07:54 PM
whereas the steel wheels are too big......:jump:
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