Kinda Disturbing...Islamic Army in Iraq sniper video [Archive]

BlueTJCO

11-10-2006, 04:51 AM

That was worse than the others that's been posted.

Most of them are BS and are someone reacting rather than being hit. The camera shakes are indicative of mortar or IED exploding elsewhere. It's not on the weapon.

Lots of those were real. It is easy to tell the difference between the muscle reation (IMO) when they are "hit" compared to an involuntary reaction to the shot itself.....:confused:

That site has a couple good videos from over there. The one where the kids are throwing rocks at the convoy is actually somewhat funny...considering the serious implications of what that could cause it isn't that funny, but it's in some weird sort of fashion refreshing to see/hear our guys reacting the way they did and with so much restraint. I couldnt do it...:rant:

PARAGON

11-10-2006, 05:16 AM

Lots of those were real. It is easy to tell the difference between the muscle reation (IMO) when they are "hit" compared to an involuntary reaction to the shot itself.....:confused:

That site has a couple good videos from over there. The one where the kids are throwing rocks at the convoy is actually somewhat funny...considering the serious implications of what that could cause it isn't that funny, but it's in some weird sort of fashion refreshing to see/hear our guys reacting the way they did and with so much restraint. I couldnt do it...:rant:Don't get me wrong. There's some video of "hits" but they are not coming from the direction of the camera.

Most of that was formatted for propoganda and not as a documentary of a sniper's hits. Many were not even small arms fire.

ssgharkness020147

11-10-2006, 08:39 AM

For those that would like to see a little US retribution here ya go: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2087addf7e

frenzy1

11-10-2006, 11:07 AM

Crazy raghead camelfckers !!! KILL 'EM ALL, LET GOD SORT 'EM OUT !

http://www.outinstyle.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/6637_big.jpg

evomind2

11-10-2006, 04:24 PM

i know this probably isnt a popular view on this forum, but we shouldnt even be there.
we went in because we were sold that there were WMDs, and against the UN's advice because we didnt show sufficient evidence of WMDs. there were also rumblings of al queida ties...
at the time the UN stated though saddam had been uncooperative, there was never any evidence he restarted his nuclear program since 91.
we have basically leveled iraq and thrown them to the brink of civil war.
what was once the most advanced and economically strong mid east nations, now relys on generators for electricity and working plumbing is scarce.
iraq also had the largest standing army in the mideast.
so now, years later, countless lives, and trillions of dollars later, we havent found any evidence of WMDs, and no terrorist links to osama.
so....why are we there?
democracy? gimme a break. theres a lot worse places to we could have "settled."
again we have meddled in affairs and events we didnt understand and have managed to destabilize a whole region.

dont get me wrong....im not a peace freak. i just dont understand what the hell were doing there, and worse yet, i dont think our policymakers do either.

NEOCON1

11-10-2006, 04:30 PM

Crazy raghead camelfckers !!! KILL 'EM ALL, LET GOD SORT 'EM OUT !

http://www.outinstyle.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/6637_big.jpg

X2 lets turn it to glass and build a big a$$ nascar track :D :twak:

KenP

11-10-2006, 05:01 PM

That's a much better vid Carey. I coudn't watch the first.

PARAGON

11-10-2006, 05:07 PM

BlueTJCO

11-10-2006, 05:13 PM

That's a much better vid Carey. I coudn't watch the first.

I guess I am able to watch that chit because it puts into perspective for me the hatred these animals have towards us. They are cowards and this is the only way they know how to fight a war. I wish it were as easy as "us" being able to fight a war the best way we know how, and level the god damn place:mad: ...but obviously in the real world it is not that easy so we keep on keepin on eh...

But in my opinion there are to many people out there blind to the pure hatred these extremists have towards our culture and I wish they could see these type of propaganda videos and **** that these terrorists recruit with and wake the F up to what is going on in the middle east. They are breeding their children to fight in the war against the west, and it is very inevitable that these kids are going to grow up with the same radical views that many of these terrorist organizations hold today...:o

CO Hummer

11-10-2006, 05:28 PM

I guess I am able to watch that chit because it puts into perspective for me the hatred these animals have towards us.

I'm guessing we do the same thing with our snipers. I've read a few books about ours sniper work in Vietnam. Pretty interesting stuff. But, we don't create videos with cutsie music showing how cool it is.

DRTYFN

11-10-2006, 05:29 PM

i know this probably isnt a popular view on this forum, but we shouldnt even be there.
I agree. If we'd used the correct weapons initially we could have stayed home and rounded up the subversive LIEBERALS.

BlueTJCO

11-10-2006, 05:34 PM

I'm guessing we do the same thing with our snipers. I've read a few books about ours sniper work in Vietnam. Pretty interesting stuff. But, we don't create videos with cutsie music showing how cool it is.

That kinda my point. It's like Dora the ****ing explora to them...a ****ing cartoon they would show their little children:rant:

PARAGON

11-10-2006, 05:39 PM

I'm guessing we do the same thing with our snipers. I've read a few books about ours sniper work in Vietnam. Pretty interesting stuff. But, we don't create videos with cutsie music showing how cool it is.

No, we don't do what's portrayed in that video. Random "hits" is not the job of US sniper teams.

Besides, in many of those circumstances shown, the "sniper" would shortly be dead for giving away his position had he actually been taking those shots from where the camera was, and again. Many of those were reactions to things other than small arms fire.

KenP

11-10-2006, 05:45 PM

I guess I am able to watch that chit because it puts into perspective for me the hatred these animals have towards us. They are cowards and this is the only way they know how to fight a warAgreed and I understand their hatred toward us. They're cowards that hide behind any little rock they can find.:mad:

I'd like to see a glass factory over there next to an American oil rig.:beerchug:

Albie

11-10-2006, 06:53 PM

were those our guys?????????

evomind2

11-10-2006, 07:29 PM

not popular because it's wrong

not really.
forget the propaganda and ask why were spending trillions out there and losing many of our boys lives. for what? you dont still think there are WMD's there do you?? :)
just this week a local kid from my neighborhood just lost his life out there so it brings it a bit closer to home.
i certainly wouldnt wanna send my son there.
(keep in mind im not trying to make this a political "republican vs. democrat" debate or anything. as far as im concerned u can dump em all in the river.)

anyway, sorry to get off topic.

evomind2

11-10-2006, 07:43 PM

I guess I am able to watch that chit because it puts into perspective for me the hatred these animals have towards us. They are cowards and this is the only way they know how to fight a war. I wish it were as easy as "us" being able to fight a war the best way we know how, and level the god damn place:mad: ...but obviously in the real world it is not that easy so we keep on keepin on eh...

But in my opinion there are to many people out there blind to the pure hatred these extremists have towards our culture and I wish they could see these type of propaganda videos and **** that these terrorists recruit with and wake the F up to what is going on in the middle east. They are breeding their children to fight in the war against the west, and it is very inevitable that these kids are going to grow up with the same radical views that many of these terrorist organizations hold today...:o

part of the problem, and you touched on it, is that MOST muslims are NOT extremists. unfortunately the extremists are all u hear abt because theyre the ones running around with bombs strapped to their backs.
generally the disfavor muslims feel for us is in large part based on our never ending support for israel. (another deep topic that cant be covered here)
we give israel so much economic aid and military support (weapons sales).
as far as 95% of the iraqis are concerned, they went from having jobs and relatively normal lives to living in bunkers because our president had a vendetta.....
im not saying thats true abt the vendetta, but thats how they feel.
the longer we are there the greater the animosity becomes that we are there.

how many of u would snipe people from an invading country?

GLBLWARMR

11-10-2006, 08:11 PM

not really.
forget the propaganda and ask why were spending trillions out there and losing many of our boys lives. for what? you dont still think there are WMD's there do you?? :)
just this week a local kid from my neighborhood just lost his life out there so it brings it a bit closer to home.
i certainly wouldnt wanna send my son there.
(keep in mind im not trying to make this a political "republican vs. democrat" debate or anything. as far as im concerned u can dump em all in the river.)

anyway, sorry to get off topic.

You know what we are over there fighting so you can continue to spout off with this bullsh*t. It is just a matter of time before the extremists carry out another attack on US soil and you will be sitting here saying where was our military? Why didn't they stop this from happening?? If you haven't figured it out we are there trying to stop extremism. It is the same reason that we have forces stationed around the world. We have forces in places like Southeast Asia because there are Muslim extremists over there trying to do the same thing and are receiving support from the Middle East.

Ohh it brings it a little closer to home boo fawking hoo. I have lost numerous buddies during this fight and I won't say it brings it a little closer to home. We know what we are getting into and all of us volunteered. Instead of saying "it brings it a little closer to home" you could say something to honor the kid like "I am sorry for his death but he brings honor to his family by fighting for them".

You wouldn't be sending your son there. If he made the decision that he wanted to fight then that is his decision. I would be honored if my children joined the fight and took over where I left off. But then again I know what I am fight for.

SnakeH2

11-10-2006, 08:13 PM

part of the problem, and you touched on it, is that MOST muslims are NOT extremists. unfortunately the extremists are all u hear abt because theyre the ones running around with bombs strapped to their backs.
generally the disfavor muslims feel for us is in large part based on our never ending support for israel. (another deep topic that cant be covered here)
we give israel so much economic aid and military support (weapons sales).
as far as 95% of the iraqis are concerned, they went from having jobs and relatively normal lives to living in bunkers because our president had a vendetta.....
im not saying thats true abt the vendetta, but thats how they feel.
the longer we are there the greater the animosity becomes that we are there.

how many of u would snipe people from an invading country?

I think it's time you give it a rest son. You really have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

evomind2

11-10-2006, 09:17 PM

You know what we are over there fighting so you can continue to spout off with this bullsh*t. It is just a matter of time before the extremists carry out another attack on US soil and you will be sitting here saying where was our military? Why didn't they stop this from happening?? If you haven't figured it out we are there trying to stop extremism. It is the same reason that we have forces stationed around the world. We have forces in places like Southeast Asia because there are Muslim extremists over there trying to do the same thing and are receiving support from the Middle East.

Ohh it brings it a little closer to home boo fawking hoo. I have lost numerous buddies during this fight and I won't say it brings it a little closer to home. We know what we are getting into and all of us volunteered. Instead of saying "it brings it a little closer to home" you could say something to honor the kid like "I am sorry for his death but he brings honor to his family by fighting for them".

You wouldn't be sending your son there. If he made the decision that he wanted to fight then that is his decision. I would be honored if my children joined the fight and took over where I left off. But then again I know what I am fight for.

for the most part i agree with what your saying.
the point im trying to make is i dont think iraq was the place to start.
if ya wanna take out extremist nations, how abt iran? they have always been a bigger threat to us than iraq ever was.
btw.....i am honored the kid served his country, but to say "I am sorry for his death but he brings honor to his family by fighting for them" is hard because his family didnt look to "honored" when i saw them.
im sure in a way they are.
again, i dont disagree with what your saying in principle, but specifically the terrorists that you allude to didnt come from iraq nor were they trained there.

evomind2

11-10-2006, 09:22 PM

I think it's time you give it a rest son. You really have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

that comment showed a wealth of knowledge.
did you have something to add, like maybe a fact or two?

look, were just a bunch of guys talking on a chat board. i offered what i believe to be a valid counterpoint.
im not the enemy, im not against any of you and im not here to slam anybody.
furthermore, im not even a democrat, so ease up...:)

BlueTJCO

11-10-2006, 09:31 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,228636,00.html

Many in the middle east want us destroyed.....:rant:

evomind2

11-10-2006, 09:45 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,228636,00.html

Many in the middle east want us destroyed.....:rant:

yep.....i never disputed that.
another nut and his "cause."
im sure theyre recruiting heavily in iraq now....
i still think iran is and always was the much bigger threat.

BlueTJCO

11-10-2006, 09:48 PM

yep.....i never disputed that.
another nut and his "cause."
im sure theyre recruiting heavily in iraq now....
i still think iran is and always was the much bigger threat.

maybe a nuke threat, but not as a conventional army a true threat. Look at how easy it was for our forces to take Iraq, and then look at how long the IRAN/IRAQ war lasted. If it came down to it, our air campain would pretty much have it's way with IRAN (IMO).......

Mr. I - Man

11-10-2006, 10:05 PM

for the most part i agree with what your saying.
the point im trying to make is i dont think iraq was the place to start.
if ya wanna take out extremist nations, how abt iran? they have always been a bigger threat to us than iraq ever was.
btw.....i am honored the kid served his country, but to say "I am sorry for his death but he brings honor to his family by fighting for them" is hard because his family didnt look to "honored" when i saw them.
im sure in a way they are.
again, i dont disagree with what your saying in principle, but specifically the terrorists that you allude to didnt come from iraq nor were they trained there.

How about Iran??

Do you play chess or have ever taken a gander at a map?

Afganistan

Iran (whats in the middle)

Iraq

If we take control of that real estate ( Iraq and Afganistan) and allow the people to set up some kind of democracy. The real threat is surrounded!

Second : A remote battle front is a helluva lot nicer than having your enemy fighting in your backyard.

Last: I wouldn't worry about your kid going off to combat. If he thinks any where near line of thought that you possess you have to might worry about him going off to Vermont and marrying some Nancy Boy he met in the Peace Corps.

evomind2

11-10-2006, 10:12 PM

maybe a nuke threat, but not as a conventional army a true threat. Look at how easy it was for our forces to take Iraq, and then look at how long the IRAN/IRAQ war lasted. If it came down to it, our air campain would pretty much have it's way with IRAN (IMO).......

thats very true....militarily we would own them, no doubt.
now what happens if they fire a nuke at saudi? what does that do to our economy? what does it do to the whole region? remember, the soviets dont want to see this stuff getting nuclear either, as they dont want to be too close, so they have their eyes on this as well. not to mention irans involvement in terrorist training and their history of contempt for the u.s.
also, if the region is destabilized further and it further affects the oil business, there will be a lot of angry countries out there. again, the soviets dont want to see that happen. the soviets were not too wild abt us invading iraq, but they didnt care enough to say much. we destabilize the oil market and affect their brittle economy, the soviets WILL get upset.
a lot of "what ifs" but the point is that it is a very difficult region with many different motivations.

we dont have the manpower nor the resources to carry out another iraq right now on iran even if we wanted to. furthermore, it isnt the "war" itself where we will run into problems, its the aftermath. this is what we are seeing in iraq right now.
we've lost more men to car bombs and such than during the fighting i believe.
the whole thing sucks.

Mr. I - Man

11-10-2006, 10:20 PM

thats very true....militarily we would own them, no doubt.
now what happens if they fire a nuke at saudi? what does that do to our economy? what does it do to the whole region? remember, the soviets dont want to see this stuff getting nuclear either, as they dont want to be too close, so they have their eyes on this as well. not to mention irans involvement in terrorist training and their history of contempt for the u.s.
also, if the region is destabilized further and it further affects the oil business, there will be a lot of angry countries out there. again, the soviets dont want to see that happen. the soviets were not too wild abt us invading iraq, but they didnt care enough to say much. we destabilize the oil market and affect their brittle economy, the soviets WILL get upset.
a lot of "what ifs" but the point is that it is a very difficult region with many different motivations.

we dont have the manpower nor the resources to carry out another iraq right now on iran even if we wanted to. furthermore, it isnt the "war" itself where we will run into problems, its the aftermath. this is what we are seeing in iraq right now.
we've lost more men to car bombs and such than during the fighting i believe.
the whole thing sucks.

Soviets????

I would personally like to WELCOME YOU TO 2006!!!

evomind2

11-10-2006, 10:24 PM

How about Iran??

Do you play chess or have ever taken a gander at a map?

Afganistan

Iran (whats in the middle)

Iraq

If we take control of that real estate ( Iraq and Afganistan) and allow the people to set up some kind of democracy. The real threat is surrounded!

Second : A remote battle front is a helluva lot nicer than having your enemy fighting in your backyard.

Last: I wouldn't worry about your kid going off to combat. If he thinks any where near line of thought that you possess you have to might worry about him going off to Vermont and marrying some Nancy Boy he met in the Peace Corps.

nice i-man.
yesterday i invite u to ride my atv anytime u want, today ur basically calling my son a fag.
classy.
i guess to me its a little more complex than what you describe. iraq is GENERATIONS away from having any political or military influence over iran now. (if you read your history u would know that iraq and iran held each other in check....thats all gone. we have to do that now.)
so you have a point, but it may be years and years b4 that great idea of yours comes to fruition.
im sorry if i tend to look at more than one angle of a problem. im sorry im not the kind of guy that takes the company line and says "everything is ok" when it clearly is not. doesnt it bother anybody that our administration is seemingly clueless as far as a specific gameplan?

im not here to personally slam people, but i-man if you want to slam me over a silly chat board topic that i tried to contribute to passing time at work, then god bless you anyway.
im not your enemy...:)

evomind2

11-10-2006, 10:28 PM

Soviets????

I would personally like to WELCOME YOU TO 2006!!!

ok, symantics.
whatever they call themselves now....

Mr. I - Man

11-10-2006, 10:50 PM

nice i-man.
yesterday i invite u to ride my atv anytime u want, today ur basically calling my son a fag.
classy.
i guess to me its a little more complex than what you describe. iraq is GENERATIONS away from having any political or military influence over iran now. (if you read your history u would know that iraq and iran held each other in check....thats all gone. we have to do that now.)
so you have a point, but it may be years and years b4 that great idea of yours comes to fruition.
im sorry if i tend to look at more than one angle of a problem. im sorry im not the kind of guy that takes the company line and says "everything is ok" when it clearly is not. doesnt it bother anybody that our administration is seemingly clueless as far as a specific gameplan?

im not here to personally slam people, but i-man if you want to slam me over a silly chat board topic that i tried to contribute to passing time at work, then god bless you anyway.
im not your enemy...:)

Maybe your little comment about the family not looking so honored when you saw them, pissed me off. What the fvck is that? How in the Holy Fvck do you know how honored they felt??

Have you ever lost anybody in combat be it a buddy or family member???

Have you ever served your country???

Well I have done and felt all of the above.

I guess classy in your eyes is to talk dishonorably about dead servicemen and their families as some politically charged rebuttal to save some face in a stupid chat board argument.

Super classy dude.

evomind2

11-10-2006, 11:09 PM

Maybe your little comment about the family not looking so honored when you saw them, pissed me off. What the fvck is that? How in the Holy Fvck do you know how honored they felt??

Have you ever lost anybody in combat be it a buddy or family member???

Have you ever served your country???

Well I have done and felt all of the above.

I guess classy in your eyes is to talk dishonorably about dead servicemen and their families as some politically charged rebuttal to save some face in a stupid chat board argument.

Super classy dude.

haha, ok. whatever.
if it seemed i talked "dishonorably" abt any serviceman, dead or alive, i can assure u that wasnt my intention. im sorry if that was the idea you got.

to answer your questions....
1.
because his mother said "for that f'in war..." thats why i said they didnt look too honored. again, im sure on some level theyre very honored, as they should be, but its an emotional time, as you well know. i left her comment out b4 because i didnt think it was necessary to include.
sorry u got pissed off, but again, im only the messenger here, not the principle.

2. yes.
3. no, but i have tried. pursued a career with the fbi and was turned down after the 4th interview. in the meantime, i have enjoyed another career.

i dont need to "save face" in a chat room. save face on what?
i am not the one here who grows a set of balls sitting ANONOMOUSLY throwing out personal insults at people.

Mr. I - Man

11-10-2006, 11:48 PM

haha, ok. whatever.
if it seemed i talked "dishonorably" abt any serviceman, dead or alive, i can assure u that wasnt my intention. im sorry if that was the idea you got.

to answer your questions....
1.
because his mother said "for that f'in war..." thats why i said they didnt look too honored. again, im sure on some level theyre very honored, as they should be, but its an emotional time, as you well know. i left her comment out b4 because i didnt think it was necessary to include.
sorry u got pissed off, but again, im only the messenger here, not the principle.

2. yes.
3. no, but i have tried. pursued a career with the fbi and was turned down after the 4th interview. in the meantime, i have enjoyed another career.

i dont need to "save face" in a chat room. save face on what?
i am not the one here who grows a set of balls sitting ANONOMOUSLY throwing out personal insults at people.

Personal insults??? I apologize I didn't know that your son was gay and that you tried and failed at a career in government service. As for being anonomous I can PM you my telephone, my address and my likes and dislikes hey maybe a photo too. What do you think this is match.com ??

Is that personal enough???

BlueTJCO

11-11-2006, 12:01 AM

ok ladies..........FIGHT!:popcorn:

evomind2

11-11-2006, 12:07 AM

i-man,
wow....
man, ur so clueless.
to insult my 5 year old son. again.
ur a big tough guy sitting there behind ur keyboard, arent u?
ur a joke man.
just for that.....im not letting u ride my atvs...:)
and does this mean u dont want me to inform you next time i go to badlands, like u asked me to do yesterday?
haha.
see ya i-man.
i wont be coming back to this thread, its pointless.
if you want to continue to insult me abt nothing in particular, feel free to pm me.
if its my 5 year old son u would rather insult and make stupid insinuations (merriamwebster.com can be ur friend), id rather u just keep it to yourself.
i-man, maybe your just having a bad day, maybe i was unclear in a post, maybe we just misunderstood each other. whatever. it doesnt matter to me but i hope you have a good weekend all the same brother!

btw...if u get bored of insulting my kids, maybe u can answer my question in the H1 thread....

:)