Jeep versus H3

[big jake]

I am torned between these two vehicles. It would appear that the Jeep has better ground clearance and water fording per Hummers and Jeeps website. The top comes off on the Jeep but the Hummer was quiter on the highway. The power is really lacking in the H3 although the Jeep is not much better. My wife thinks the H3 in kindy of cheesy (wanna be H2 owners). I am kinda leaning that way too. After all thier is only one Jeep. I promise if I see a H3 on the trail I will wave and be happy to pull you out as long as you sign a waiver when the Jeep pulls your bumper off.

[DRTYFN]

The Jeep thing...:giggling:

[The ArchiTexan]

I am torned between these two vehicles. It would appear that the Jeep has better ground clearance and water fording per Hummers and Jeeps website. The top comes off on the Jeep but the Hummer was quiter on the highway. The power is really lacking in the H3 although the Jeep is not much better. My wife thinks the H3 in kindy of cheesy (wanna be H2 owners). I am kinda leaning that way too. After all thier is only one Jeep. I promise if I see a H3 on the trail I will wave and be happy to pull you out as long as you sign a waiver when the Jeep pulls your bumper off.


Get the FJ, according to their site - FJC Forum, it's the greatest offroad vehicle in the planet.

[DRTYFN]

A Heep will be pulling an H3 out??? Not likely.:giggling: :OWNED:

[big jake]

Only kidding, just wanted to have some fun. I did look at the H3 but finally ordered the Jeep. I also looked at FJ Cruisers. Honestly I could live with any of them.

[The ArchiTexan]

After all thier is only one Jeep.


That's right....the Willy's!!!!!!


Not the German Chrysler Jeep....:giggling:

[The ArchiTexan]

Only kidding, just wanted to have some fun. I did look at the H3 but finally ordered the Jeep. I also looked at FJ Cruisers. Honestly I could live with any of them.

Congrats on your new German Jeep........errr Compass?

[jdrew]

My wife thinks the H3 in kindy of cheesy (wanna be H2 owners). I am kinda leaning that way too.

Heh.. you think? Considering most of us on here can afford the H2 as well as the H1. Ever thought that just maybe some people like the H3? I mean, you like jeeps, so it can't be that far fetched of a thought process...

I suppose that H2 owners are just wanna be H1 owners as well, correct?

See you on the trail... (Remember, tires are supposed to be under you, not on top.):giggling:

Excellent first post. -5 points :fdance:

Go pick on someone your own size...

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[usetosellhummer]

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[jdrew]

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Nice vid!.. First time I have seen that one! :clapping:

[stagger_lee]

Not fan of the H2 at all. Not functional in my opinion, for the more serious off-roader. I have owned scouts, I own a 71 FJ 40, and have wheeled the crap out of my brothers 06 FJ loaded with manual trans and lockers. The Jeep Rubicon is probably up there as well in the top 3 best factory capable vehicles. I dont think that the H2 was supposed to be a capable off roader from the factory, I think the H3 was more headed in that direction. Smaller, lighter, better clearence, bigger tires, etc. But honestly how many people are out there running Moab and The Rubicon daily, a handful, maybe. To the wifeys and the occasional mountain explorer or skiier/snowboarder its more about status then capability, and most 4x4s will get the job done. Try running the Little/Old Sluice or Soup Bowl (Rubicon Trail) in a stock H2, not happening. I like H3s and will be buying one, test drove last night, and it will be my first GM vehicle, so just letting everyone know before I get bashed, that I love em, and Im buying one. :beerchug:

[PARAGON]

Not fan of the H2 at all. Not functional in my opinion, for the more serious off-roader. I have owned scouts, I own a 71 FJ 40, and have wheeled the crap out of my brothers 06 FJ loaded with manual trans and lockers. The Jeep Rubicon is probably up there as well in the top 3 best factory capable vehicles. I dont think that the H2 was supposed to be a capable off roader from the factory, I think the H3 was more headed in that direction. Smaller, lighter, better clearence, bigger tires, etc. But honestly how many people are out there running Moab and The Rubicon daily, a handful, maybe. To the wifeys and the occasional mountain explorer or skiier/snowboarder its more about status then capability, and most 4x4s will get the job done. Try running the Little/Old Sluice or Soup Bowl (Rubicon Trail) in a stock H2, not happening. I like H3s and will be buying one, test drove last night, and it will be my first GM vehicle, so just letting everyone know before I get bashed, that I love em, and Im buying one. :beerchug:Scouts were pieces of crap. You say "serious off-roader" and Scout in the same post.... get real. And Yep, I've wheeled Scouts, back in High School and for the one we wheeled, we had a whole spare back at the farm so we would have parts to scavenge from when it would break.:lame:

We

[HummBebe]

Not fan of the H2 at all. Not functional in my opinion, for the more serious off-roader. I have owned scouts, I own a 71 FJ 40, and have wheeled the crap out of my brothers 06 FJ loaded with manual trans and lockers. The Jeep Rubicon is probably up there as well in the top 3 best factory capable vehicles. I dont think that the H2 was supposed to be a capable off roader from the factory, I think the H3 was more headed in that direction. Smaller, lighter, better clearence, bigger tires, etc. But honestly how many people are out there running Moab and The Rubicon daily, a handful, maybe. To the wifeys and the occasional mountain explorer or skiier/snowboarder its more about status then capability, and most 4x4s will get the job done. Try running the Little/Old Sluice or Soup Bowl (Rubicon Trail) in a stock H2, not happening. I like H3s and will be buying one, test drove last night, and it will be my first GM vehicle, so just letting everyone know before I get bashed, that I love em, and Im buying one. :beerchug:
Well then we can count on you to join us on our next Rubicon trip?

Not even a stock h3 could do soupbowl, Little Sluice.

Old sluice could be done, but not without some guaranteed body damage. And we are not talking a couple of scratches either.

I have wheeled in both and they are both capable. The H2 is FAR more comfortable while wheeling. I drove a friends last weekend and he almost didn't get it back...:giggling:

Can't wait to catch up with you on the trail.....

Hey Sewie, looks like we've got another hardcore guy to wheel with!:D

[The Green Lantern]

Not fan of the H2 at all. Not functional in my opinion, for the more serious off-roader. I have owned scouts, I own a 71 FJ 40, and have wheeled the crap out of my brothers 06 FJ loaded with manual trans and lockers. The Jeep Rubicon is probably up there as well in the top 3 best factory capable vehicles. I dont think that the H2 was supposed to be a capable off roader from the factory, I think the H3 was more headed in that direction. Smaller, lighter, better clearence, bigger tires, etc. But honestly how many people are out there running Moab and The Rubicon daily, a handful, maybe. To the wifeys and the occasional mountain explorer or skiier/snowboarder its more about status then capability, and most 4x4s will get the job done. Try running the Little/Old Sluice or Soup Bowl (Rubicon Trail) in a stock H2, not happening. I like H3s and will be buying one, test drove last night, and it will be my first GM vehicle, so just letting everyone know before I get bashed, that I love em, and Im buying one. :beerchug:


To be honest with y'all, I'm not really a big fan of the H2 either. I like them, but I woudn't drive one. One of the reasons I bought a H is the "color"...:clapping:

....sorry fellows, I found this review about the H1 and H2.... :giggling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGM97caMqyc

:dancingbanana:

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

The Jeep thing...:giggling:

NOW THIS HAS TO BE A "FIRST"

scums & me on the same team (idea) about something...

RYD

:excited:


THIS POST HAS BEEN EDITED BY A MONITOR (UNKNOWN)

[Sewie]

Hey Sewie, looks like we've got another hardcore webwheeler that won't show up to our runs.:D

fissed :giggling:

[jdrew]

nevermind.. lol

[The Green Lantern]

nevermind.. lol


Lol, that was the other guy! :giggling:

[The Green Lantern]

NOW THIS HAS TO BE A "FIRST"

I & me on the same team (idea) about something...

RYD

:excited:


It would be nice if they can't see who edited the post...:beerchug:

[Demo]

I thought H2's were :lame: for years. Then I bought my H3, after owning 3 Jeeps (all lifted and locked) and a Land Rover Discovery (lifted and locked) I found that they all suffered in some way from the modifications and always needed a little more work to get it "right". When looking to replace my Land Rover (due to the horrible MPG and sluuuuugishness of the engine with the massive 31'' tires:giggling: ) I looked at every comparable SUV out there. Jeep did not yet have the four door wrangler and the FJ's back seat (I have a family and dogs) is about as functional as a Ford Escort's:fdance: .
The only vehicle that could do it all without any major modification was the H3. Oh yeah, . It doesn't feel like a tent (did I mention that I have DVD players in the head rests:clapping:) more like an armored vehicle.


The new Jeep unlimited Rubicon is a great looking vehicle with lots of potential, but I feel very confident that I made the right choice with my H3:jump: .
Oh yeah try putting 35's on a stock wrangler:shhh: .

I will admit that I am prepping the wife for the purchase of the fabled V8 H3, but if it doesn't happen my little I-5 is just fine. It works much better than my Land Rover and gets better MPG than it and my previous Jeeps.

Oh yeah, there was a point?now I want an H2 for long trips cause I have too much junk and the H2's I have seen on this forum are not :lame: , they kick ass !:beerchug:
:grouphug: I now see the light, stick around long enough and you will too.

[marin8703]

To be honest with y'all, I'm not really a big fan of the H2 either. I like them, but I woudn't drive one. One of the reasons I bought a H is the "color"...:clapping:

....sorry fellows, I found this review about the H1 and H2.... :giggling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGM97caMqyc

:dancingbanana:

haha, lol. that was a good laugh. althou i love the h1. i especially liked the 1 mpg on the h2 but is that possible, or was that dude just busting balls. anyway i love my hummer and all the others too. i like jeeps too, but for some reason i am a little turned off by FJs.:)
i also wonder what the jeepers and fjers will be saing when the V8 comes out. so far all they trash is the power, when we get that are they gona die out or hows it gona happen?

[jdrew]

:grouphug: I now see the light, stick around long enough and you will too.

Harumph!! :jump:


Lol, that was the other guy! :giggling:


Too much cough syrup this morning.. lol ;)

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

It would be nice if they can't see who edited the post...:beerchug:

That was great for healing wounds, HUH?

RYD

[H3.007]

I am torned between these two vehicles. It would appear that the Jeep has better ground clearance and water fording per Hummers and Jeeps website. The top comes off on the Jeep but the Hummer was quiter on the highway. The power is really lacking in the H3 although the Jeep is not much better. My wife thinks the H3 in kindy of cheesy (wanna be H2 owners). I am kinda leaning that way too. After all thier is only one Jeep. I promise if I see a H3 on the trail I will wave and be happy to pull you out as long as you sign a waiver when the Jeep pulls your bumper off.

Ummmmm..... you can inform your "wife" that I bought the H3 because I wanted it. It sat among many H2s. I could have easily afforded the latter. However, read the reviews, look at the style, and drive the two. Anyone who does an unbiased test will go with the H3. The H2s are parking lot pleasers. Period.


:lame:

[stagger_lee]

Lets get back to talking shop, fegs...H3 - capable or not? Obviously not in the same category as Rubicon or FJ, but close? Will I be able to keep up with my brother in his FJ? ?...unless we need to ford 28 in of water. haha

[jdrew]

Lets get back to talking shop, fegs...H3 - capable or not? Obviously not in the same category as Rubicon or FJ, but close? Will I be able to keep up with my brother in his FJ? ?...unless we need to ford 28 in of water. haha


You are right, they are not in the same category as a Rubicon or FJ, one step above, period. Take stock to stock... they know it, we know it. Put 35's on an H3? Forgetaboutit. :)

Keep up with your brother in his FJ? Without sounding biased, yes. And them some. He will have problems keeping up with you... Get the rear diff locker.. :)

[DRTYFN]

To be honest with y'all, I'm not really a big fan of the H2 either. I like them, but I woudn't drive one. One of the reasons I bought a H is the "color"...:clapping:

....sorry fellows, I found this review about the H1 and H2.... :giggling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGM97caMqyc

:dancingbanana:

I saw that a while back. I lost all respect for Top Gear after that feature. Very:lame:

[stagger_lee]

Ummmmm..... you can inform your "wife" that I bought the H3 because I wanted it. It sat among many H2s. I could have easily afforded the latter. However, read the reviews, look at the style, and drive the two. Anyone who does an unbiased test will go with the H3. The H2s are parking lot pleasers. Period.


:lame:

haha I agree, H2 was like the retarded, fat, redhead stepbrother of the H1.

[jdrew]

lol

[Desert Dan]

Stagger Lee
It is more about the driver than the rig.

The LWB Rubicon with out do anything out of the showroom but maybe a Dodge Power Wagon or H1 or a tractor.

The H3 will keep up with the FJ just fine. The H3 is a better overall daily driver rig than the JK. quieter better ride etc.

If the JK was out at the time I was looking at the H3 I might have gone with a LWB Rubicon but so far I am very pleased with the H3.

Get and and have some fun:)

[stagger_lee]

You are right, they are not in the same category as a Rubicon or FJ, one step above, period. Take stock to stock... they know it, we know it. Put 35's on an H3? Forgetaboutit. :)

Keep up with your brother in his FJ? Without sounding biased, yes. And them some. He will have problems keeping up with you... Get the rear diff locker.. :)

Even with a front and rear Dana 44 and front and rear lockers? ...sometimes size isn't going to get you there...devils advocate.

Yeah I am looking for answers here, because I want one (H3), so thats good to hear. We'll see what we can break first. We use our rigs to the max, so we'll be the judge. I definately love the 35" in tires on a stocker. :excited: I assume by being able to put 35's on there they made sure the axles were stout enough to handle that size and weight...??

[DRTYFN]

haha I agree, H2 was like the retarded, fat, redhead stepbrother of the H1.
:rolleyes:

[Demo]

Even with a front and rear Dana 44 and front and rear lockers? ...sometimes size isn't going to get you there...devils advocate.

Yeah I am looking for answers here, because I want one (H3), so thats good to hear. We'll see what we can break first. We use our rigs to the max, so we'll be the judge. I definately love the 35" in tires on a stocker. :excited: I assume by being able to put 35's on there they made sure the axles were stout enough to handle that size and weight...??

We try not to think about it..;)

[The Green Lantern]

fegs...H3 - capable or not? Obviously not in the same category as Rubicon or FJ, but close? Will I be able to keep up with my brother in his FJ? ?...unless we need to ford 28 in of water. haha

Ok now, wait a minute. The Rubicon I understand, but the FJ? ....please!
245 hp, V6 .....big deal!!! What are the departure and approach angles? You have to modify that thing to be wheelable! The skid plate is :lame: Plus, who wants to be seen in it! The FJ probably the gheyest of the ghey! :giggling:

[stagger_lee]

Stagger Lee
It is more about the driver than the rig.

The LWB Rubicon with out do anything out of the showroom but maybe a Dodge Power Wagon or H1 or a tractor.

The H3 will keep up with the FJ just fine. The H3 is a better overall daily driver rig than the JK. quieter better ride etc.

If the JK was out at the time I was looking at the H3 I might have gone with a LWB Rubicon but so far I am very pleased with the H3.

Get and and have some fun:)

Definately agree about the driver being the key factor. I will be using my H3 as a my daily. But at the same time I love to push my vehicles to the max. My Fj40 is more like operating a tractor then anything, so daily driver? not so much. My family has grown up 4 wheelin, so naturally we worry about the little things (big things) ie: spline count, ratios, cv joint strength and what not. Not typical worries for most. Thanks though. I test drove it last night, and I love it (H3). :beerchug:

[stagger_lee]

Ok now, wait a minute. The Rubicon I understand, but the FJ? ....please!
245 hp, V6 .....big deal!!! What are the departure and approach angles? You have to modify that thing to be wheelable! The skid plate is :lame: Plus, who wants to be seen in it! The FJ probably the gheyest of the ghey! :giggling:

Have you ridden in one? I wouldn't say a thing until your hanging on the side of a cliff, very capable. Not pretty, but capable.

[stagger_lee]

:beerchug: We try not to think about it..;)

You try not to think about blowing an axle when your out having fun? You might want to start thinking about it, or carry a spare. Most vehicles you cant just slap bigger tires on without lower gear ratio and or beefier axles. I dont know about the axle strength of the H3 thats why I was asking.

Also given that you owned a lifted discovery you should know about weak axles. Very low spline count for having an offset rear axle = much breakage or twisting when used for intended purposes. Crawling. I dont think that rovers are anywhere near the level of H3, Rubicon or FJ are at. Unlees we are talking about the Defender.

All due respect to all here of course, I am inquiring and getting info not bashing anybody. I appreciate the info given already.

[Huck BB62]

Have you ridden in one? I wouldn't say a thing until your hanging on the side of a cliff, very capable. Not pretty, but capable.

Yeah, but to put it in the same league as the H3, it'd take a lot of money, and it wouldn't sidehill very nicely. The FJ's turning radius it awful, it's mileage a couple MPG lower, and to put 35s on it takes a lot of dough. How about it's crawl ratio?

Again, I think Jeep missed the boat by not putting the PowerWagon's drive train under it, it'd be a kick butt rig then!

Likewise with the H3, and I'm gonna harp on it until they make it: Right size the components for the abuse. Make the Alpha, they will come.

[Scouts Out]

I rarely take acception to post here but Scout II's were great trail vehicles. 165 HP but well over 350 LB of torque. dana 's front and rear. Now as I slightly age I would never consider one, road manners were equal to a pig and the body rusted as you watched. It had a fully boxed frame, easily lifted.....

I love my 3, probably the best all around vehicle I have owned, but the Scout was a fine vehicle. Remember, in the wise words of Sir Rodney King, "Can't we all get along"

[stagger_lee]

Yeah, but to put it in the same league as the H3, it'd take a lot of money, and it wouldn't sidehill very nicely. The FJ's turning radius it awful, it's mileage a couple MPG lower, and to put 35s on it takes a lot of dough. How about it's crawl ratio?

Again, I think Jeep missed the boat by not putting the PowerWagon's drive train under it, it'd be a kick butt rig then!

Likewise with the H3, and I'm gonna harp on it until they make it: Right size the components for the abuse. Make the Alpha, they will come.

Few arguments, but not many, To only lose a couple miles a gallon , and gain 25 horses and a good amount of torque, well, that might sway me towards the FJ, keep in mind Im most likely driving home in a H3 tonite, so. The other thing is that tire size isn't always going to be the determining factor in getting through an obsticle. On to Jeeps (Rubicon) - 44s front and rear in something as light as a wrangler body is plenty stout for me unless I want to run 37" tires which would require a significant lift (Rubicon Express) as it is, so having said that. Also keep in mind that I come from a rock crawling background, so I have knowledge bias towards that type wheeling. Again with all due respect to all. :beerchug:

[PARAGON]

Po-lice officer, how can it be?
You can 'rest everybody but cruel Stagolee
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Billy DeLyon told Stagolee, "Please don't take my life
I got two little babes and a darling, loving wife"
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

"What'd I care about your two little babes and darling, loving wife?
You done stole my Stetson hat, I'm bound to take your life."
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Boom boom, boom boom,
Went the forty-four.
Well when I spied Billy DeLyon
He's lyin' down on the floor.
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Gentlemens of the Jury,
What you think of that?
Stagolee killed Billy DeLyon
'bout a five-dollar Stetson hat.
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Standin' on the gallows, head way up high
At twelve o'clock, they killed him, they's all glad to see him die
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee.

[stagger_lee]

I rarely take acception to post here but Scout II's were great trail vehicles. 165 HP but well over 350 LB of torque. dana 's front and rear. Now as I slightly age I would never consider one, road manners were equal to a pig and the body rusted as you watched. It had a fully boxed frame, easily lifted.....

I love my 3, probably the best all around vehicle I have owned, but the Scout was a fine vehicle. Remember, in the wise words of Sir Rodney King, "Can't we all get along"

Haha thats just it I think everyone is getting along great, not too much name calling, and just a good ol shop talkin group, checking numbers. I had a 73 Scout II. 345, 4 speed, good stump puller, again like my FJ40 much like driving a tractor, but agreed one of the best factory wheeling rigs ever produced. :beerchug:

[stagger_lee]

Po-lice officer, how can it be?
You can 'rest everybody but cruel Stagolee
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Billy DeLyon told Stagolee, "Please don't take my life
I got two little babes and a darling, loving wife"
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

"What'd I care about your two little babes and darling, loving wife?
You done stole my Stetson hat, I'm bound to take your life."
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Boom boom, boom boom,
Went the forty-four.
Well when I spied Billy DeLyon
He's lyin' down on the floor.
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Gentlemens of the Jury,
What you think of that?
Stagolee killed Billy DeLyon
'bout a five-dollar Stetson hat.
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Standin' on the gallows, head way up high
At twelve o'clock, they killed him, they's all glad to see him die
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee.

That'd be me! haha I see someone knows their music history. :beerchug:

[DRTYFN]

Not fan of the H2 at all. Not functional in my opinion, for the more serious off-roader.You're not much for researching or paying attention, are you? I have owned scouts, I own a 71 FJ 40, and have wheeled the crap out of my brothers 06 FJYour standard of wheeling is considerably lower than ours. loaded with manual trans and lockers.Did you enjoy having to run premium fuel in the FJ? The Jeep Rubicon is probably up there as well in the top 3 best factory capable vehicles. I dont thinkYour problem is your inability to think clearly. that the H2 was supposed to be a capable off roader from the factory, I think the H3 was more headed in that direction. Smaller, lighter, better clearence, bigger tires, etc.Uhm retard, you do know that 35>33, right? But honestly how many people are out there running Moab and The Rubicon daily, a handful, maybe. To the wifeys and the occasional mountain explorer or skiier/snowboarder its more about status then capability, and most 4x4s will get the job done.Or you could just buy an A4 wagon and be a total trolling fag. Try running the Little/Old Sluice or Soup Bowl (Rubicon Trail) in a stock H2, not happening.Try it in a stock Rubi and get back to me. I like H3s and will be buying one, test drove last night, and it will be my first GM vehicle, so just letting everyone know before I get bashed, that I love em, and Im buying one. :beerchug: Post a picture of the alleged H3 immediately or you're banned.

[The Green Lantern]

The FJ's turning radius it awful, it's mileage a couple MPG lower, and to put 35s on it takes a lot of dough. How about it's crawl ratio?


.......and they offer 2WD too.


:popcorn:

[The Green Lantern]

Post a picture of the alleged H3 immediately or you're banned.


:jump: :jump:

[Marcmedic]

Ummmmm..... you can inform your "wife" that I bought the H3 because I wanted it. It sat among many H2s. I could have easily afforded the latter. However, read the reviews, look at the style, and drive the two. Anyone who does an unbiased test will go with the H3. The H2s are parking lot pleasers. Period.


:lame:

That is quite possible the dumbest thing I've read today...congratulations! I can't stand to drive the H3. It's way too cramped for me. At 6'6" I simply don't have the room in the front that I do in my H2. The reviews??? Go ahead, read 'em. There are just as many negative reviews about the H3 as there are about the H2. Your comments are about as original as the ones from the Jeep trolls who come here.

[The Green Lantern]

LOL...

first H3 v. Jeep ......then H3 v. FJ.........now......H3 v. H2........:clapping: :popcorn:

[DRTYFN]

Anyone who does an unbiased test will go with the H3. The H2s are parking lot pleasers. Period.


:lame:
Really?
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21178

[The Green Lantern]

Really?



Wow, nice H3 pic! :giggling:

[PARAGON]

I rarely take acception to post here but Scout II's were great trail vehicles. compared to what? a VW bug?

There was nothing great about them except that their skin was thick. They were bare bones simple design. We had a fire under the dash, choke cable break, seat bolts break and it simply didn't articulate for a solid axle vehicle. It was horridly unbalanced on the trail and bounced too damn much.

Don't get your feelings hurt. We had a '76 for parts (I think the years are right) and ran the '77. It just didn't cut the mustard unless you modded it a lot which I couldn't afford to do in High School.

[stagger_lee]

Post a picture of the alleged H3 immediately or you're banned.

You make no sense, and never once did I bash anyone. Grow up. I know my cars, I dont know yours (H3) but I drove it and I liked it, and I will go back and get it if all works out. "Your standard of wheeling is considerably lower than ours." Rockcrawling? Thanks for that ignorant statement of the year. Sport is sport, douche. Whether its duning, snow play or rockcrawling, different vehicles perform better in different situations. You can build any vehicle to do anything better than the next. I was looking for answers, and experience, and if a$$holes like you are the ones driving these rigs I definately dont want to be associated with the likes there of. Obviously 35>33 I see you passed 1st grade. Thats what I was saying that the H3 had bigger tires therefore a step in the right direction of being a more capable off road vehicle, Retard. Who cant read? and for your info the Jeep Rubicon did do those trails stock when it first came out on 31's, so let me look up that issue of 4 Wheel Drive so you can educate yourself.
"You're not much for researching or paying attention, are you?"
Im trying to research, no thanks to your ignorance. and your telling me that they made the H2 to be functional off road? They missed the mark.

If you'll also notice after several posts I said "with all due respect to all".

And let me just run down to the dealer and take picture for you..psshhhht.
:fdance:

[PARAGON]

You make no sense, and never once did I bash anyone. Grow up. I know my cars, I dont know yours (H3) but I drove it and I liked it, and I will go back and get it if all works out. "Your standard of wheeling is considerably lower than ours." Rockcrawling? Thanks for that ignorant statement of the year. Sport is sport, douche. Whether its duning, snow play or rockcrawling, different vehicles perform better in different situations. You can build any vehicle to do anything better than the next. I was looking for answers, and experience, and if a$$holes like you are the ones driving these rigs I definately dont want to be associated with the likes there of. Obviously 35>33 I see you passed 1st grade. Thats what I was saying that the H3 had bigger tires therefore a step in the right direction of being a more capable off road vehicle, Retard. Who cant read? and for your info the Jeep Rubicon did do those trails stock when it first came out on 31's, so let me look up that issue of 4 Wheel Drive so you can educate yourself.
"You're not much for researching or paying attention, are you?"
Im trying to research, no thanks to your ignorance. and your telling me that they made the H2 to be functional off road? They missed the mark.

If you'll also notice after several posts I said "with all due respect to all".

And let me just run down to the dealer and take picture for you..psshhhht.
:fdance:so, you ARE saying you are just trolling

[stagger_lee]

so, you ARE saying you are just trolling

Do you guys even read anything? My other posts were about warranty issues and prices, I have driven H3s and most likely will be driving one home tonite, if trying to educate yourself makes you a troll, then so be it. Last I checked we were all adults here, but maybe not. 1st grade, 2nd grade? you tell me. Also if you read all the posts I never said I had experience, but the experience I had was with several other vehicles. Not H3s.

[RazM]

My wife thinks the H3 in kindy of cheesy (wanna be H2 owners). I am kinda leaning that way too.

You two are a perfect match then. Just make sure when the two of you figure out how to reproduce, that you use protection. The world can do without anymore of you.

[DRTYFN]

You make no sense, and never once did I bash anyone. Grow up. I know my cars, I dont know yours (H3) but I drove it and I liked it, and I will go back and get it if all works out. "Your standard of wheeling is considerably lower than ours." Rockcrawling? Thanks for that ignorant statement of the year. Sport is sport, douche. Whether its duning, snow play or rockcrawling, different vehicles perform better in different situations. You can build any vehicle to do anything better than the next. I was looking for answers, and experience, and if a$$holes like you are the ones driving these rigs I definately dont want to be associated with the likes there of. Obviously 35>33 I see you passed 1st grade. Thats what I was saying that the H3 had bigger tires therefore a step in the right direction of being a more capable off road vehicle, Retard. Who cant read? and for your info the Jeep Rubicon did do those trails stock when it first came out on 31's, so let me look up that issue of 4 Wheel Drive so you can educate yourself.
"You're not much for researching or paying attention, are you?"
Im trying to research, no thanks to your ignorance. and your telling me that they made the H2 to be functional off road? They missed the mark.

If you'll also notice after several posts I said "with all due respect to all".

And let me just run down to the dealer and take picture for you..psshhhht.
:fdance:
You don't act like such an asshat on the other forum, so why here?

[RazM]

I have driven H3s and most likely will be driving one home tonite

Please, oh god please, DO NOT BUY ONE!

Imagine what that poor H3 will have to go through having you as its driver... Poor thing.

Please, stay away from HUMMER, PLEASE.

[DRTYFN]

Only kidding, just wanted to have some fun. I did look at the H3 but finally ordered the Jeep. I also looked at FJ Cruisers. Honestly I could live with any of them.
You're not going to be pulling your Flagstaff with a Heep.


I thought you were only in D1 status.

If JKs are so capable why do you feel the need to put bigger tires on it?
:OWNED:

[Marcmedic]

Please, oh god please, DO NOT BUY ONE!

Imagine what that poor H3 will have to go through having you as its driver... Poor thing.

Please, stay away from HUMMER, PLEASE.

:iagree: :giggling:

[PARAGON]

Do you guys even read anything? Yeah, I read Cosmo..... why?

[Huck BB62]

I rarely take acception to post here but Scout II's were great trail vehicles. 165 HP but well over 350 LB of torque. dana 's front and rear. Now as I slightly age I would never consider one, road manners were equal to a pig and the body rusted as you watched. It had a fully boxed frame, easily lifted.....

I love my 3, probably the best all around vehicle I have owned, but the Scout was a fine vehicle. Remember, in the wise words of Sir Rodney King, "Can't we all get along"

I gotta agree, I built a few myself, they're hell bent for stout. Rust though, oh geez, you couldn't keep a Scout from rusting out. I just gave up and let mine oxidize. I had full cage, winch, lockers front and rear, a 304, granny low five speed and Dana 300. It was killer. One thing it couldn't do, no how, no way, and what the H3 does soooooo much better, is sidehill. It's one reason that I have no plans to lift my H3. Some folks have a higher pucker capability than I do. Low as I can go and still get there does it for me.

[DRTYFN]

I notice he suddenly got quiet.:jump:

[RuggedH2]

A fawkin waste of 5 minutes of my life, reading this ghey ass thread.

Another troll hiding under the guise of being interested in a 3, while throwing out insults.

Come in here like I give a fawk about his questions and veiled insults. Anybody can write on the internet. Go wheel a fawkin 3, rent one, go with a 3 owner if you even have a rig at all.

I wheel with Jeeps. My 3 is better in lots of terrain, their Jeeps keep up in some ****. The Rubi's are capable and good climbers if they don't tip over.

Problem with Jeep is quality, it's shiat. Modify the fawker and the factory doesn't want to honor the warranty. Fawk this troll.

[The Green Lantern]

A fawkin waste of 5 minutes of my life, reading this ghey ass thread.

Another troll hiding under the guise of being interested in a 3, while throwing out insults.

Come in here like I give a fawk about his questions and veiled insults. Anybody can write on the internet. Go wheel a fawkin 3, rent one, go with a 3 owner if you even have a rig at all.

I wheel with Jeeps. My 3 is better in lots of terrain, their Jeeps keep up in some ****. The Rubi's are capable and good climbers if they don't tip over.

Problem with Jeep is quality, it's shiat. Modify the fawker and the factory doesn't want to honor the warranty. Fawk this troll.


Lol.....X2 **** this troll..:giggling:

[lennyrebel]

To be honest with y'all, I'm not really a big fan of the H2 either. I like them, but I woudn't drive one. One of the reasons I bought a H is the "color"...:clapping:

....sorry fellows, I found this review about the H1 and H2.... :giggling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGM97caMqyc

:dancingbanana:
God, I love this video, it has all the reasons I drive an H2. Ithink of myself as a 16 year old boy in it. I want to stand up and salute, when I see any HUMMER H1 H2 Or H3 . Regards The Rebel:jump:

[RuggedH2]

Here's a question Stagger Lee, how come the only "NEW" Jeeps I see on the trails (that I 'm on with an 06 H3) are only attempting the easy sh1t, and a little mud?

The jeeps that are really getting after it, are all older and modified with lifts and aftermarket upgrades all over them. There are some bad-ass Jeeps, but MOST of them are older and modified way beyond the factory setup.

I see some Rubi's out there, but they seem to be the only ones getting serious. The factory Jeeps are missing in the backcountry here.

[GotSandH3]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/hoodrydr/0010.jpg

[BlueHUMMERH2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGM97caMqyc

:giggling: That is a great video. I mean, he's absolutely right about most of the points (minus the whole Tahoe bit). Just so entertaining to watch though. Too bad he didn't take it to the LR school and have some real fun...

[NEOCON1]

Bloody Rubish :fdance: ;)

[PARAGON]

:giggling: That is a great video. I mean, he's absolutely right about most of the points (minus the whole Tahoe bit). Just so entertaining to watch though. Too bad he didn't take it to the LR school and have some real fun...shut up stupid. He's not right about many of the "points"

3.3 MPG????? Drives worse than the H1?:lame:

[stagger_lee]

Sorry for all the harshness before. I bought the H3, signed papers friday night. I pick it up Thursday, and am heading straight to the mountains to find trouble and snow. I will have plenty of pics for the non believers. Again all apologies for the harsh words, and hopefully I can learn something from you all. Cheers! :beerchug:

[RuggedH2]

Sorry for all the harshness before. I bought the H3, signed papers friday night. I pick it up Thursday, and am heading straight to the mountains to find trouble and snow. I will have plenty of pics for the non believers. Again all apologies for the harsh words, and hopefully I can learn something from you all. Cheers! :beerchug:

Cool Stagger Lee, guess you're not a troll. Congrats on the new rig, you're gonna love it. :cool:

[The Green Lantern]

Cool Stagger Lee, guess you're not a troll. Congrats on the new rig, you're gonna love it. :cool:

X2, initiation is complete......welcome aboard! :giggling:

[bunchawannabs]

You Fool,...you gotta be kidding me you would listen to this crap and
actually believe it. The JK would eat this piece **** H3 for lunch in any situation. This is rediculous even vs them against each other, how emarrasing this would be for a the JK. Maybe an H3 vs KIA Serento....even then I still don't know who would win. Actually it's the biggest laugh of the century. Guy's, your just not there yet, keep talking your way there, but I don't think that'll work... Grow up kids and go get a real
man's 4X4 and get rid of your fake. You'll be much more happier.

[The ArchiTexan]

You Fool,...you gotta be kidding me you would listen to this crap and
actually believe it. The JK would eat this piece **** H3 for lunch in any situation. This is rediculous even vs them against each other, how emarrasing this would be for a the JK. Maybe an H3 vs KIA Serento....even then I still don't know who would win. Actually it's the biggest laugh of the century. Guy's, your just not there yet, keep talking your way there, but I don't think that'll work... Grow up kids and go get a real
man's 4X4 and get rid of your fake. You'll be much more happier.

Shut the **** UP!!! And you think your Chrysler Heep is a real one?

[stagger_lee]

Drive what you like, Im giving the H3 a try, and I'll form my own opinions. I have driven most all other 4x4s, so no need to trash. Like I said before every rig produced is going to have pros and cons in different situations. To each there own. And is it really worth to register just for one blow off at the mouth? :clapping: :beerchug:

[Scouts Out]

Of course teh Scout I had was before any Hummer (civilian version) had come out. Articulation was fair (compared to the other vehicles at the time so comparing it to the Audi A4 :) is out). The torque was unreal, the tractor sounding engine was unique, and take the top off it was fun.

Being 12 years older and wiser I am not saying I would own one but if my son wanted on I think we could make a respectable ride out of it. And the crash rating... I was hit twice (two days in a row) in the back bumper. First time the Ford pickup had to be towed home (Mostly due to the tubed rear bumper). Second day a Chrysler sedan drove under the Scout till the car had lifted the rear wheels of my scout off the ground. The last one broke my fuels gauge.

[The ArchiTexan]

fixed!!

[The Green Lantern]

You Fool,...you gotta be kidding me you would listen to this crap and
actually believe it. The JK would eat this piece **** H3 for lunch in any situation. This is rediculous even vs them against each other, how emarrasing this would be for a the JK. Maybe an H3 vs KIA Serento....even then I still don't know who would win. Actually it's the biggest laugh of the century. Guy's, your just not there yet, keep talking your way there, but I don't think that'll work... Grow up kids and go get a real
man's 4X4 and get rid of your fake. You'll be much more happier.

Look who's talking. :fdance:

[marin8703]

You Fool,...you gotta be kidding me you would listen to this crap and
actually believe it. The JK would eat this piece **** H3 for lunch in any situation. This is rediculous even vs them against each other, how emarrasing this would be for a the JK. Maybe an H3 vs KIA Serento....even then I still don't know who would win. Actually it's the biggest laugh of the century. Guy's, your just not there yet, keep talking your way there, but I don't think that'll work... Grow up kids and go get a real
man's 4X4 and get rid of your fake. You'll be much more happier.

haha, laghin my a$$ off, high schools really need to start educating the kids. This one is writing at a 6th grade level, but he can't be a 6th grader, he's got the mentality of a crack addicted high school punk. :D

[marin8703]

Drive what you like, Im giving the H3 a try, and I'll form my own opinions. I have driven most all other 4x4s, so no need to trash. Like I said before every rig produced is going to have pros and cons in different situations. To each there own. And is it really worth to register just for one blow off at the mouth? :clapping: :beerchug:

:iagree: Well said.

[usetosellhummer]

Resistance is futile:perfect10s:

[DRTYFN]

You Fool,...

This coming from a Heeper out of Poughkeepsie, New York.:giggling: :fdance:

[The Green Lantern]

This coming from a Heeper out of Poughkeepsie, New York.:giggling: :fdance:

:OWNED: :perfect10s: :giggling:

[King Donkey]

This coming from a Heeper out of Poughkeepsie, New York.:giggling: :fdance:

How do you know it wasn't me! :giggling: :grouphug:

[DRTYFN]

How do you know it wasn't me! :giggling: :grouphug:

:rolleyes: Cuz I noes dees thangs, midget.:twak: :jump:

[King Donkey]

:rolleyes: Cuz I noes dees thangs, midget.:twak: :jump:


Waaaaaaa ha ha ha. I wanna know who "nychot" is. :popcorn:

[DennisAJC]

H3 will beat the any Jeep any time!:excited:

[King Donkey]

DC JEEPS SUCKS!!!

[bunchawannabs]

DC JEEPS SUCKS!!!
Hey Donkey DK....you have the mentality of a 5th grader.....get your facts straight before make an A$$ out of youself.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/nam676869/nolockers-1.jpg
JK Sahara ,,,,No Lockers, 30 front, what will you do with you Rubi, drive around this or just to walk up and watch how it's really done Boy.
Here's your new Avatar, you earned it with ******* comment like you made, wear it well Kid.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/nam676869/images-2.jpg

[King Donkey]

Hey Donkey DK....you have the mentality of a 5th grader.....get your facts straight before make an A$$ out of youself.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/nam676869/nolockers-1.jpg
JK Sahara ,,,,No Lockers, 30 front, what will you do with you Rubi, drive around this or just to walk up and watch how it's really done Boy.
Here's your new Avatar, you earned it with ******* comment like you made, wear it well Kid.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/nam676869/images-2.jpg

**** up boy!! I see you have to do a lot of modifying to be able to drive it offroad. DC Jeeps sucks!!!

[King Donkey]

Stockers rule!!!

[HummBebe]

I guess it takes one to know one.

[King Donkey]

Hey Donkey DK....you have the mentality of a 5th grader.....get your facts straight before make an A$$ out of youself.

JK Sahara ,,,,No Lockers, 30 front, what will you do with you Rubi, drive around this or just to walk up and watch how it's really done Boy.
Here's your new Avatar, you earned it with ******* comment like you made, wear it well Kid.


JK is :lame: ... not even a real Jeep!

[bunchawannabs]

JK is :lame: ... not even a real Jeep!
So I see the little boy is is still clueless, so now you earned 2 more....I have a lot of these.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/nam676869/images-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/nam676869/images-2.jpg

[The ArchiTexan]

...

Hey Ghey boy! my FJ will eat your JK! :fdance:

[stagger_lee]

Lock this useless thread already.

[Desert Dan]

Why can't we all get along?

Get out with your friends and enjoy the country and your vehicle.

If we tread lightly the trails may remain open for a few more years

[Huck BB62]

So, is that jeep pic a pose or did he make it? No lockers on that thing? Why BUY a jeep without the Rubicon package? Will stock JKs take 35" tires without a lift? Inquiring minds wanna know.

[jdrew]

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[Idaho-Hummer]

:violin:

[The Green Lantern]

Hey Donkey DK....you have the mentality of a 5th grader.....get your facts straight before make an A$$ out of youself.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/nam676869/nolockers-1.jpg

JK Sahara ,,,,No Lockers, 30 front, what will you do with you Rubi, drive around this or just to walk up and watch how it's really done Boy.
Here's your new Avatar, you earned it with ******* comment like you made, wear it well Kid.



Is that the 2WD JK? :giggling:



:giggling: