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ChasH3
02-19-2007, 06:09 PM
Broke one of my tie rods on the H3 doing the Odessa trail out in Calico, Ca on Saturday night..It was the Calico clean up event that was gong on out there.... Ended up getting a long bolt to thread back into the lower end, cut of the head of the bolt and bent part overlaped the bolt to the straight piece of the tie road and had someone weld it up for me. It got me off the trail and back home... It's probably stronger now then the original tie rod set-up... They used two Peterbuilt truck batteries as a power source.. You could see the jumper cables jump everytime they started welding... Will post some pictures of the fix when I can... :excited:
ictH3
02-19-2007, 09:02 PM
WOW.... nice save Chas! :beerchug:
Don't know of any stronger after market tie rods we could get for our 3's do ya? I'd like to get a couple spares for MOAB just in case. :(
Sewie
02-19-2007, 11:52 PM
I haven't seen any aftermarket TR ends for the H3's yet. But they don't seem to be as susceptible to breakage as they are on the H2. Just carry some stock spares and you should be fine.
ictH3
02-20-2007, 12:37 AM
I haven't seen any aftermarket TR ends for the H3's yet. But they don't seem to be as susceptible to breakage as they are on the H2. Just carry some stock spares and you should be fine.
Thanks Sewie!!! Will Do!
Huck BB62
02-20-2007, 07:02 AM
These guys do a LOT of GM work, I betcha they'd make some up for a group buy! http://www.cognitomotorsports.com/
See if you can get these guys to make some of their sleeves to fit. These will help retain factory warranty more over replacing them with aftermarket tie rods.
https://ssl.perfora.net/www.superdieselperformance.com/sess/utn;jsessionid=1545db1e4b17f1f/shopdata/index.shopscript
They look like this: http://www.trailduty.com/product_info.php?cPath=112_118_120&products_id=236
Khoolhandz
02-20-2007, 10:15 PM
What's the GM P/N for the H3 tie rod ?
Sewie
02-20-2007, 10:18 PM
What's the GM P/N for the H3 tie rod ?
Depends. They changed them a while back so there's two different "kits". Have your parts dept look up your VIN and they can give you the correct part numbers.
timgco
02-21-2007, 12:48 AM
Depends. They changed them a while back so there's two different "kits". Have your parts dept look up your VIN and they can give you the correct part numbers.
And make sure to by the inner and outer (complete assembly).
Some of the first ones ordered (me included) ordered in a "complete assembly" and only got the outer.
ictH3
02-21-2007, 01:07 AM
What's the GM P/N for the H3 tie rod ?
Sorry... I didn't get the part # but my GM dealer said they were $64 & $92.
Sewie
02-21-2007, 04:45 AM
And make sure to by the inner and outer (complete assembly).
Some of the first ones ordered (me included) ordered in a "complete assembly" and only got the outer.
Good point. A couple other folks did the same thing which led to a little adventure on Steel Bender when one broke and we had to go back to town to get the right parts. :OWNED: ;)
HummBebe
02-22-2007, 07:17 PM
Good point. A couple other folks did the same thing which led to a little adventure on Steel Bender when one broke and we had to go back to town to get the right parts. :OWNED: ;)
:jump: Easy cheese:jump:
usetosellhummer
02-22-2007, 09:48 PM
how hard is it to change one out on the trail?
HummBebe
02-22-2007, 09:53 PM
Adam has set the record at 15 minutes :jump:
ictH3
02-23-2007, 01:57 AM
Well..... I'm making friends with Adam!!! :D
Hey Adam ole buddy ole pal... what would you like me to bring you in MOAB?
Just name it ole buddy ole pal!!! :jump:
Have I sucked up enough? :D
Wu Jen
02-23-2007, 04:22 AM
Maybe you experienced offroaders could post exactly what you keep in your H3 when your on the trail. As far as trail repair parts, that is....what tools you keep in your H3 etc.
Desert Dan
02-23-2007, 04:44 PM
Can anybody post a picture of teh tie rod inner and out pieces?
Where do they usually break ? Where the male threaded outer tie rod end meet the female threaded inner piece?
Moog has always been famous for great front end parts...
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=700+400381+309894+4294906279+115+4 294907043
ChasH3
02-23-2007, 10:24 PM
Can anybody post a picture of teh tie rod inner and out pieces?
Where do they usually break ? Where the male threaded outer tie rod end meet the female threaded inner piece?
Here's a picture of mine welded back together... Not pretty but it got me home....
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Sewie
02-23-2007, 10:28 PM
Moog has always been famous for great front end parts...
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=700+400381+309894+4294906279+115+4 294907043
Those are for H2's.
f5fstop
02-24-2007, 03:45 PM
http://images1.snapfish.com/3495563%3A8%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D3262%3E738%3E7%3B%3B%3E WSNRCG%3D323368%3A44276%3Anu0mrj
Another view, from a different angle....:fdance:
http://images1.snapfish.com/3495563%3A8%7Ffp343%3Enu%3D3262%3E738%3E7%3B%3B%3E WSNRCG%3D32336%3A749%3B%3A75nu0mrj
To replace:
Raise the vehicle on the side with the busted tie rod.
Remove tire (makes it easier, but not really necessary).
Remove lower tie rod nut
Push up on the tie rod end and push out of knuckle. Sometimes it is rough, but usually not hard. Use of a pry bar or a piece of wood and a large hammer may be necessary. Remember, since you are throwing this tie rod away, don't worry about damaging it, just don't damage the knuckle.
Loosen the jam nut and remove the outer tie rod end.
To install:
Install outer tie rod to inner tie rod and tighten jam nut.
Install outer tie rod to knuckle and install the nut. Tighten...
Although I would not worry about torquing it, here is the torque just in case....71 N·m (52 lb ft).
Suggest torquing nut as soon as possible, and a toe adjustment before too much highway driving.
Not hard, 10-15 minutes after tire is off if you have done a few and you have all the right tools. Novice...maybe 20-25 minutes.
Desert Dan
02-26-2007, 05:23 PM
Good Fix Chas
It beats walking!
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