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Huck BB62
03-22-2007, 02:17 AM
This is not hearsay, I saw it with my own eyes. I took old yeller down to the dealer for the rear end again and the sales manager showed me the papers sent to them by Hummer. No pricing yet but come September, there we will own one of the first V8s. He says more details will be coming soon. Dayum I'm glad I didn't jump on the 3.7!

eugenebeauxbuton
03-22-2007, 02:24 AM
Hot @#$% !!

That's fantastic! Do you know when they will be in SoCal? I wanna look....





:jump:

:jump: :jump: :jump: :jump:

Huck BB62
03-22-2007, 02:30 AM
He told me "About September sometime." He's going to call me as soon as ordering is allowed. Our biggest problem is what color to get since the yellow's not available. He also said that he wasn't sure if yellow was going to stay gone because of the hubbub that taking it away has caused. :excited:

eugenebeauxbuton
03-22-2007, 02:32 AM
Our biggest problem is what color to get since the yellow's not available.


Get black!

Diabolus
03-22-2007, 02:38 AM
Getting closer.... can't wait to see if there will be any other new options.

Viet Nam Vette
03-22-2007, 03:00 AM
And I wonder what the fuel milage will be??? Maybe they'll drop one of them there motors that shuts off cyl's .....as you cruz down crack hooker lane.:jump:

3Hummer
03-22-2007, 03:10 AM
okay theres no more yellow, but isnt there supposed to be three new colors anyone know what they are?!?!?!

marin8703
03-22-2007, 03:12 AM
And I wonder what the fuel milage will be??? Maybe they'll drop one of them there motors that shuts off cyl's .....as you cruz down crack hooker lane.:jump:

:confused: You have some of the weirdest posts.:) milage will probaly stay the same, no reason to drop.:beerchug:

usetosellhummer
03-22-2007, 03:46 AM
better because of new poer on demand stuff.

Huck BB62
03-22-2007, 05:17 AM
Here's the true story... When we went from a 5.3 Yukon SLT to our 6.0 Denali, we gained right at a mile and a half per gallon. Doesn't figure does it. (not a question) It does to me, particularly how hard we flog the 3.5 with the heavy Hummer. The 5.3 won't be working as hard. On the freeway, it's a matter of moving the square mass through the wind. Our Denali gets 16mpg. Y'know what my H3's getting since I put the BFG ATs on it? 16mpg. So it can't be that different with the 5.3 in the H3.

I'll let you know how it works out.

I'm pretty curious about two things though, the front and rear end (will they upgrade them to put up with the increased torque of the V8) and the Adventure package (will it still come with the 4:1 tcase and 4.56 gears)

By the way, it will be called the Alpha according to the documents he showed me. Booyah!:dancingbanana:

Steve - SanJose
03-22-2007, 05:39 AM
Yea I heard the same thing at my dealer 3 weeks ago, expect the V8 in October/November timeframe. I wouldn't bank on significant improvement in gas mileage with or without DOD. But the power difference would be very significant with similar mediocre mileage. Not a bad tradeoff.

Our 3.5 and 3.7's might take a rapid depreciation hit later this year, although continued gas prices increases might temper that. I'm not sure I'm in a big hurry to take that hit right away.

hummerabia
03-22-2007, 06:09 AM
We already got one here, a conversion carried out by the local dealership. It's a 440 HP:excited: 6.2 L Cadillac V8, 18" rims with 35" M/T's, competition gas shocks and thats about all I know. Price for this particular vehicle AED 260,000 or about 70,000 US$. Theres probably about $15k of that for the interior and cosmetic mods. There was a whole load of GM/HUMMER big wigs plus a couple of Sheikhs at the unveiling plus some local press. If I get any more info I'll let you know.:beerchug:

Viet Nam Vette
03-22-2007, 02:44 PM
:confused: You have some of the weirdest posts.:) milage will probaly stay the same, no reason to drop.:beerchug:


You have some of the weirdest posts


Sometimes it's fun to driff off the straight and narrow....:beerchug:

marin8703
03-22-2007, 02:56 PM
Sometimes it's fun to driff off the straight and narrow....:beerchug:
Cant argue with that.:beerchug:

But anyways, guys, theres hundreds of posts on this already. Although the bigger engine will be doing the work easier it will still be doing the same work, more or less, as whatever other engine you put in it. And since you are just changing the engine and not aero or friction then there is no way the milage will drop, except if you put a less efficient engine in, which i doubt. Work is basically what equates to how much gas it will consule, not how much noise its making.

And usetosellhummer hummer said it rite, it can only go up. but I kind of think it will most likely stay the same, because of teh little increase in weight (assume there will be some increase) from teh larger engine, and increase in weight from beefing up the powertrain, which i assume they will do if its weak, so i figure thats gona require a little more work which might be offset by a dispalcemnt on demand engine(if they put one of those in). so either pretty much the same or maybe just maybe an increase.

Viet Nam Vette
03-22-2007, 04:29 PM
Cant argue with that.:beerchug:

But anyways, guys, theres hundreds of posts on this already. Although the bigger engine will be doing the work easier it will still be doing the same work, more or less, as whatever other engine you put in it. And since you are just changing the engine and not aero or friction then there is no way the milage will drop, except if you put a less efficient engine in, which i doubt. Work is basically what equates to how much gas it will consule, not how much noise its making.

And usetosellhummer hummer said it rite, it can only go up. but I kind of think it will most likely stay the same, because of teh little increase in weight (assume there will be some increase) from teh larger engine, and increase in weight from beefing up the powertrain, which i assume they will do if its weak, so i figure thats gona require a little more work which might be offset by a dispalcemnt on demand engine(if they put one of those in). so either pretty much the same or maybe just maybe an increase.

Some good info their.

Also ..you must consider..How many of us want a V-8..?? I'm happy with the I-5 and it's low end power. Of course I wish I had a tad bit more for passing ,but all in all I'm happy with the I-5. My driving situation is local with minimal high way usage. Maybe if it was all hi speed high way it would be a different story.

So..this brings up an interesting Question. How many of you would trade and or upgrade just for a V-8?

I'd stay right where I'm at with my 07 I-5 3.7.

Let's hear from you guys...I-5 or V-8..In your own words.

:beerchug:

RubHer Yellow Ducky
03-22-2007, 04:33 PM
Some good info their.

Also ..you must consider..How many of us want a V-8..?? I'm happy with the I-5 and it's low end power. Of course I wish I had a tad bit more for passing ,but all in all I'm happy with the I-5. My driving situation is local with minimal high way usage. Maybe if it was all hi speed high way it would be a different story.

So..this brings up an interesting Question. How many of you would trade and or upgrade just for a V-8?

I'd stay right where I'm at with the I-5.

Let's hear from you guys...I-5 or V-8..In your own words.

:beerchug:

I'm CHEAP, I-5 3.5 is fine ...

Viet Nam Vette
03-22-2007, 04:37 PM
I'm CHEAP, I-5 3.5 is fine ...


Nothing wrong with that...mo money for gas..:D

fourfourto
03-22-2007, 04:38 PM
I'd stay right where I'm at with the I-5.

:iagree: X2 The I5 does just fine,I take many highway trips and havent needed more power.Maybee if you tow alot the v8 would be needed.Its a truck if you keep it under 70 it does great on gas,. even running 80-85 mph on a long trip I got 17.4.
When I need power Ill take the 442 out for a spin.http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

Viet Nam Vette
03-22-2007, 04:49 PM
I'd stay right where I'm at with the I-5.

:iagree: X2 The I5 does just fine,I take many highway trips and havent needed more power.Maybee if you tow alot the v8 would be needed.Its a truck if you keep it under 70 it does great on gas,. even running 80-85 mph on a long trip I got 17.4.
When I need power Ill take the 442 out for a spin.http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif


When I need power Ill take the 442 out for a spin.http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif


Same here.. I jump in the 65 502 Vette with the side pipes and Terrorize
the neighboorhood when I need a fix...:cool:

DRTYFN
03-22-2007, 04:55 PM
This is not hearsay, I saw it with my own eyes. I took old yeller down to the dealer for the rear end again and the sales manager showed me the papers sent to them by Hummer. No pricing yet but come September, there we will own one of the first V8s. He says more details will be coming soon. Dayum I'm glad I didn't jump on the 3.7!
Cool. But remember you saw it on Elcovaforums.com first.:dancingbanana:
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24077

Steve - SanJose
03-22-2007, 05:08 PM
Same here.. I jump in the 65 502 Vette with the side pipes and Terrorize
the neighboorhood when I need a fix...:cool:

Yea I understand. I take my Porsche Boxster S out for a spin when I need some real road worthy power and handling, with the top down for the wind in the hair, bugs in the teeth effect. :beerchug:

NEOCON1
03-22-2007, 05:36 PM
Some good info their.

Also ..you must consider..How many of us want a V-8..?? I'm happy with the I-5 and it's low end power. Of course I wish I had a tad bit more for passing ,but all in all I'm happy with the I-5. My driving situation is local with minimal high way usage. Maybe if it was all hi speed high way it would be a different story.

So..this brings up an interesting Question. How many of you would trade and or upgrade just for a V-8?

I'd stay right where I'm at with my 07 I-5 3.7.

Let's hear from you guys...I-5 or V-8..In your own words.

:beerchug:

the 3.5 is fine for me , mostly just rollin around moab now , no freeways to deal with here ;)

i wonder how the front diffs and carrier brackets will fair with the power . the 3.5 can bust $hit on these trucks just fine in low range .

usetosellhummer
03-22-2007, 05:45 PM
The 5.3 is a great engine. the multi deplacement will increase mpg on the H3 but what will the extra weight and that sweet 50/50 weight split turn to? the I-5 is lighter and yes works harder. Hard core engine people have told me a strait anything is better then a v anything> I don't need a 8 and if i did I would want more room to go with it. Great decession for an Alpha and to shut up the no power weiners

Viet Nam Vette
03-22-2007, 06:05 PM
Cool. But remember you saw it on Elcovaforums.com first.:dancingbanana:
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24077

Cool... That's why we come here....Your Like the Snopes of the Hummer forums...:D

Desert Dan
03-22-2007, 07:18 PM
The V8 is proabaly going in the H3 -truck too :)


I hope they offer the V8 with a 5-speed and an Adventure Package in the H3 and H3 Trucks!

Hey maybe a V8 in the H4 too!

HummBebe
03-22-2007, 07:47 PM
You know what this means to me??

That I will be able to pick up a clean H3 for a DD, and turn mine into a dedicated trail rig....:jump:

Huck BB62
03-22-2007, 07:56 PM
Cool. But remember you saw it on Elcovaforums.com first.:dancingbanana:
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24077

I saw the picture. Nothing was for real until I saw it with my own eyes at the dealer though.

If you want a good feel for how the new H3 Alpha will perform, simply test drive an Envoy Denali. Same weight and instead of the over 10 second 0-60 time of the H3, it'll be under 7 seconds! It's tow rating is a full ton more than the H3. It's 0-60 rating will be better than the Fuggin Junk and even what all the magazines called a real hot rod, the Xterra. We drove the Denali Envoy and it's VERY MUCH a performer. The 5.3 will have active fuel management and the Envoy gets 16city 22hwy ( I have no doubt that the blocky H3 will get somewhat less but I bet it's not much different than the I5)

No, none of us buy an H3 to be a hot rod but now it will truly live up to it's billing "Like Nothing Else" It'll tow better, pass better, climb mountains better, and pull the All Terrains better. (I'm gonna puke if they only put the V8 in a 2wd bling machine)

I'm already planning for a nice dynomax exhaust system. I've seen people put duals on I5s and that reminded me of Joan Jett wearing Pam Anderson's bra.

There's a good side to this, the people that like the I5 will have plenty of used vehicles to choose from. Here's a question: How many H2 drivers will want an H3 Alpha?

usetosellhummer
03-22-2007, 08:28 PM
Hay, your implying eveyone will trade? I'm sure i am not the only person who owns a H3 and does not make buu kuu cash. v-8 will probally cost 3-5 k more plus packge add ons. The I-5 will live on baby.

v-8 H3 $42k
new H2 $50K
GAP GETS CLOSER?
H4 will have the I-3?

NEOCON1
03-22-2007, 08:36 PM
H4 will have the I-3?


:giggling: :giggling: :beerchug:

Huck BB62
03-22-2007, 09:00 PM
Hay, your implying eveyone will trade? I'm sure i am not the only person who owns a H3 and does not make buu kuu cash. v-8 will probally cost 3-5 k more plus packge add ons. The I-5 will live on baby.

v-8 H3 $42k
new H2 $50K
GAP GETS CLOSER?
H4 will have the I-3?

The I5 is adequate. It works. For people that don't mind it, I think it should stay in the lineup. The H3's a heavy vehicle. It has been driving me bonkers because of my commute. Any time we take it out of town, I definitely have to adopt the mindset of not passing. We have a 6.0 Denali and perhaps that's why it drives us bonkers because it seems like a hot rod compared to the H3 and when you get out of one into the other, the difference is profound. If all you drive is the H3, it probably never bothers you.

About that price? You're comparing apples to oranges. What new H2 are you going to get for $50k and what new H3 are you going to get for $42k?

Dayum folks, you act like I'm peein' on your hubcaps. Nobody's saying you should buy a new H3 or that the one you're driving is krap but can anyone seriously say that that the 5.3 isn't a better choice if one likes or needs more power? I've heard that people are resistant to change but this is ridiculous.

I've read on this forum, for over a year now, people buying this intake, buying that exhaust, sending their computer out to be reprogrammed, putting this performance gizmo on or that. Now, from the factory, we're going to have the choice of making the H3 a real performer in every aspect, not just offroad, and there's resistance!? :confused:

I'm thinkin' that maybe some folks are worried about their diminished resale or something because I can't figure it out.

Now, if I can just get Hummer to put in an integrated trailer brake controller and tow/haul mode for the tranny.....

justforfun
03-22-2007, 09:12 PM
Would I buy a V8 H3?... ... if GM put a traction control "OFF" switch in the I-5 that'd do it for me - :mad: ... anyway, back to the "would I buy one question"... I probably would, purely because here, fuel is no issue, and more importantly I bought a base H3 and REALLY wish I went for the Adventure.... :crying:

If/when a V8 H3 comes out :clapping: , I'm guessing it'll have the luxury and adventure packages as standard... they sure as hell aint gonna have the I-5 with various trim / options and the same for a V8 methinks!!!

Cheers
JFF :beerchug:

Steve - SanJose
03-22-2007, 09:15 PM
fyi - GMC Envoy V8 AWD new 2007 ratings are 13/19
Hummer H3 -I5 4WD new 2007 ratings are 14/18

Therefore expect no improvement in gas mileage with V8 H3. But a huge difference in usable power and torque.:fdance:But that lump of cast iron up front will do nothing for the onroad handling or offroad dynamics of the H3.

Owners of current H3's will end up paying through the nose to trade-up, if you include the $15K loss on a 2006 traded-in.

Later if I want a fast street SUV, I'll consider Ranger Rover Sport V8.

Interleukin
03-22-2007, 09:24 PM
I'm fine with the I5 too.

When I feel the need for speed, I hop in the V6 Grand Caravan and sling the kids around.:jump:

evldave
03-22-2007, 09:32 PM
I won't trade in right away, gonna trade my girlfriends ****us for a JK, give her the H3 and trust me, she don't need no V8 (too many tickets already). Plus, for that kind of $$ I'll go w/a used H2 truck and have more room...

HummBebe
03-22-2007, 09:41 PM
I'm fine with the I5 too.

When I feel the need for speed, I hop in the V6 Grand Caravan and sling the kids around.:jump:

my kids love it when I do that....:jump:

Steve - SanJose
03-22-2007, 09:48 PM
my kids love it when I do that....:jump:

Kids are easily entertained, you gotta love that!:jump:

Viet Nam Vette
03-22-2007, 10:00 PM
You know what this means to me??

That I will be able to pick up a clean H3 for a DD, and turn mine into a dedicated trail rig....:jump:


That's my idea too.. Except I want to find a ratty H1 SUT beat to poop and fix-er up for the trail and not have to worry about roll overs..:jump:

So Bebe's .. you could keep the rig you have now and really build on it more and then buy yourself a Loaded Bling Machine.:dancingbanana:

http://www.geocities.com/daulquad/bling.jpg

Huck BB62
03-22-2007, 10:17 PM
fyi - GMC Envoy V8 AWD new 2007 ratings are 13/19
Hummer H3 -I5 4WD new 2007 ratings are 14/18
Virtually the same mileage AND vastly improved driveabiltiy and towing capacity? Looks like money well spent to me.

Therefore expect no improvement in gas mileage with V8 H3. But a huge difference in usable power and torque.:fdance:But that lump of cast iron up front will do nothing for the onroad handling or offroad dynamics of the H3.
Really now, the serious offroaders here have put HUNDREDS of pounds of steel, winches, highlifts etc. on the front of their H3s. I really don't think the engine figures into this point at all, particularly since it's engine weight situated over drive wheels.

Owners of current H3's will end up paying through the nose to trade-up, if you include the $15K loss on a 2006 traded-in.
Kinda illustrates my point about I5 values when this happens.

Later if I want a fast street SUV, I'll consider Ranger Rover Sport V8.
I thought you didn't have a bucket of money laying around?



It'll be up to the buyers. Let's make some predictions: I say they'll sell well.

Steve - SanJose
03-22-2007, 10:34 PM
It'll be up to the buyers. Let's make some predictions: I say they'll sell well.

Agreed, I think they will sell well. H3's have been successful so far, and this seems like a viable option that will continue to drive good sales volume (4K H3s per month total).

Who said I don't have plenty of money, not me. Silicon Valley a go-go! The rich get richer and the poor get poorer is what I think was said.

Huck BB62
03-22-2007, 11:17 PM
Well, with a Boxter S, I didn't think you were broke! My neighbors just reshod theirs, keeeefrickinripes I thought ATs were expensive! (very, very nice machine by the way)

BlueHUMMERH2
03-23-2007, 12:28 AM
I am pretty sure that the I-5 will stay in the lineup, because if they drop the 5.3 in the Colorado/Canyon as well, I would think the I-4 would go bye-byes in those trucks. So I doubt you're going to see a "huge" hit in depreciation. I think it will be more than normally expected.

Steve - SanJose
03-23-2007, 06:53 PM
I am pretty sure that the I-5 will stay in the lineup, because if they drop the 5.3 in the Colorado/Canyon as well, I would think the I-4 would go bye-byes in those trucks. So I doubt you're going to see a "huge" hit in depreciation. I think it will be more than normally expected.

I hope you are right, the V8 alone shouldn't cause depreciation to jump too much. But by the end of the year I expect a 2006 to have depreciated about 35%. So to trade up to anything, the loss will be about $10K-$15K regardless.

btw - BH2- how's the new gig in car sales going so far?

Demo
03-23-2007, 07:08 PM
Jeep has been selling the Grand Cherokee with a 6 cyl. and the V8 as an option for as long as I can remember. I am absolutely positive GM will keep the I-5. I agree it is a adequate for most, but not for me. I am very excited about a the V8, but like Humbebe I am also looking into other options (supercharger). I travel alot with alot of gear and I really like to have one vehicle that is my very own Swiss Army Knife.

I had to change out my exhaust to fit my air tank. So I had the guys at Midas put a Flowmaster and dual exhaust. With the 35's it makes alot of noise but doesn't really go anywhere. LOL My wife and I decided to get a personalized License plate, ISNDFST (i sound fast). :giggling:

Steve - SanJose
03-23-2007, 08:53 PM
I just had a ride in a Porsche Turbo with an aftermarket exhaust system at lunch. Lots of cool noise and plenty of power to match! I think I need one. Never mind.

stagger_lee
03-23-2007, 08:59 PM
Im staying witht he I-5. I dont know why American companies aren't looking into introducing Diesel engines in the smaller vehicles like VW and other foreign companies are doing. ie:V12 TDI Tourag, Jetta and Passat TDI on market already. I would love a I4 Diesel or small 6 diesel in these things, but I doubt that will happen. I guess americans are all about the muscle and displacement not high torque at excellent gas mileage. What do you guys think? :beerchug:

wpage
03-23-2007, 09:42 PM
V8 is great! However the future is not traditional solutions. The I5 is a great engine. GM needs to refine it and hone it. For its original intent the H3 is well suited to the I5. The pundits have had thier way. For most needs the I5 is perfectly suited to the H3, Coly, & Canyon platforms. :popcorn: :twak: :dancingbanana: :D

Viet Nam Vette
03-23-2007, 09:45 PM
I just had a ride in a Porsche Turbo with an aftermarket exhaust system at lunch. Lots of cool noise and plenty of power to match! I think I need one. Never mind.


Don't do it "S".... If you are getting the bug... Move back into some good old Big Block Push Rod Amerian Muscle like 454...502..572.

Drop that into your favorite 60's 70's American Muscle Car Body (GM) and you can rock..!! You can even add Custom Suspensions for the track and or high performance handling for the street.

Build yourself a nice Retro Rod ..It'll give you a biger return down the raod then a Porsche.

And..if you don't want to deal with a restro rod... Go for a Nice ZO6 505 HP Corvette. It'll beat the pants off any Street Porsche.:clapping:

Steve - SanJose
03-23-2007, 10:51 PM
VVN - That turbo was something. I've recovered my senses, my Boxster S is fine for as often as I use it.

Not a big fan of Vettes, too much rattling and the smell of fiberglass/plastic on hot days. http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif I'm sure the newer versions are better.

The Hummer gets used daily, a great UAV.http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

stagger_lee
03-23-2007, 11:02 PM
?diesel?...good talk, good talk.

timgco
03-23-2007, 11:57 PM
VVN - That turbo was something. I've recovered my senses, my Boxster S is fine for as often as I use it.

Not a big fan of Vettes, too much rattling and the smell of fiberglass/plastic on hot days. http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif I'm sure the newer versions are better.

The Hummer gets used daily, a great UAV.http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Boxter? Bastage! i have been looking at those and the Cayman S since it came out. Gotta pick?

Viet Nam Vette
03-24-2007, 12:19 AM
VVN - That turbo was something. I've recovered my senses, my Boxster S is fine for as often as I use it.

Not a big fan of Vettes, too much rattling and the smell of fiberglass/plastic on hot days. http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif I'm sure the newer versions are better.

The Hummer gets used daily, a great UAV.http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Those were the old days of Rock & Roll for Corvette. And that smell of fiber glass has been replaced with the smell of leather.It has become a true world class sports car out preforming the German and Italian and other European Marks at 1/2 the price.

Of Course the interior of a Corvette cannot compare to the Leather of a Ferrari or a Lamborghini or some other marks above it's price but it does out preform them.

In fact it has won in it's class for the last 3 or 4 yers now in the world famous 24 Hours of Le Mans and quite a few other large events. The Honors go on and on.

I wish you were close by as my good friend owns a 2006 ZO6. I'd love to bring it by and and let you Flog it. I know your shorts would be soiled.. :jump:

f5fstop
03-24-2007, 01:00 AM
This is not hearsay, I saw it with my own eyes. I took old yeller down to the dealer for the rear end again and the sales manager showed me the papers sent to them by Hummer. No pricing yet but come September, there we will own one of the first V8s. He says more details will be coming soon. Dayum I'm glad I didn't jump on the 3.7!

Saw what, a piece of paper the dealer had in his hands, or did you actually see the engine in a H3?

What kills me is many on this thread were naysayers a few weeks ago, now, because someone sees a piece of paper it is all real.

No need to answer, I already know that, as well as axles, t/case, ratios, will it be DOD or not, transmission, etc. I'll let all you state your own theories.
As for will I ever purchase a V8? Not really sure, but I can say this, unless Hummer comes out with some new colors next year, I will be jumping to the Jeep forum.

H3 Alaska
03-24-2007, 04:44 AM
but I can say this, unless Hummer comes out with some new colors next year, I will be jumping to the Jeep forum.

:giggling: :giggling: :giggling: :perfect10s:

Hummer Guy
03-24-2007, 04:49 AM
I thought you were already expecting new colors? :shhh: :D
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=353203&postcount=32

Hummer Guy
03-24-2007, 04:53 AM
[quote=Huck BB62]This is not hearsay, I saw it with my own eyes. I took old yeller down to the dealer for the rear end again and the sales manager showed me the papers sent to them by Hummer. No pricing yet but come September, there we will own one of the first V8s.quote]

I saw the same thing at my dealer! maybe..
http://www.egyptian.net/~mrch/v8bottle.jpe

Diabolus
03-24-2007, 03:03 PM
No need to answer, I already know that, as well as axles, t/case, ratios, will it be DOD or not, transmission, etc. I'll let all you state your own theories.
http://cutoutandkeep.net/photos/reviews/generationt/tease.jpg

usetosellhummer
03-24-2007, 03:30 PM
I LIKE THE 3.7, not fair F5 eveyone knows your a blue blood and know all just can't tell all.
Jeep:lame:

3Hummer
03-24-2007, 03:50 PM
Don't do it "S".... If you are getting the bug... Move back into some good old Big Block Push Rod Amerian Muscle like 454...502..572.

Drop that into your favorite 60's 70's American Muscle Car Body (GM) and you can rock..!! You can even add Custom Suspensions for the track and or high performance handling for the street.

Build yourself a nice Retro Rod ..It'll give you a biger return down the raod then a Porsche.

And..if you don't want to deal with a restro rod... Go for a Nice ZO6 505 HP Corvette. It'll beat the pants off any Street Porsche.:clapping:


Your 100% wrong that ZO6 couldnt keep up for the life of it. My dad just got the new 2007 Turbo last month, its the second quickest car off the line. The manual transmission pulls 0-60 in 3.4 and the automatic (yes porsches automatic is faster than manual) is 3.1 seconds or with the optional 2.9 overboost chrono package, you can do it in 2.9- 3.0 seconds. We have the automatic, but they say break it in to 2000 miles before you can push it so we havent gotten to floor it yet. Also they did testings Z06 vs. Porsche Turbo, the turbo beat it in every aspect.

f5fstop
03-24-2007, 03:59 PM
[quote=Huck BB62]This is not hearsay, I saw it with my own eyes. I took old yeller down to the dealer for the rear end again and the sales manager showed me the papers sent to them by Hummer. No pricing yet but come September, there we will own one of the first V8s.quote]

I saw the same thing at my dealer! maybe..
http://www.egyptian.net/~mrch/v8bottle.jpe

Papers? Just screwing with you, but papers mean nothing. It fifteen minutes on Word, I can make anything look official.:beerchug:

If I get another Hummer H3, I doubt it will be the V8 and that is ALL I will say on this subject till next month.

BlueHUMMERH2
03-24-2007, 05:02 PM
If I get another Hummer H3, I doubt it will be the V8 and that is ALL I will say on this subject till next month.

.....V8, next month.....

So perhaps V8=H3T=NY-Auto-Show=Fstop no likey the H3T.

Or maybe he sees no logical reason to "upgrade" to the V8.

:confused:

BlueHUMMERH2
03-24-2007, 05:06 PM
btw - BH2- how's the new gig in car sales going so far?

I lasted about a week and decided they were all lying, cheating scumbags and I just couldn't do it. Nor did I feel I could trust any of them for the same reasons... And I didn't really want to end up one of "them" :) (Applies flame-retardant suit :popcorn: :D)

So I'm working on trying to get into the wholesale end now.

Steve - SanJose
03-24-2007, 05:30 PM
If I get a V8, I doubt it will be a Hummer.

BH2 - good luck on your next gig.

GUEST
03-24-2007, 05:38 PM
.....V8, next month.....

So perhaps V8=H3T=NY-Auto-Show=Fstop no likey the H3T.

Or maybe he sees no logical reason to "upgrade" to the V8.

:confused:
Or maybe hes saying he wont buy a V8 in and "h3" because the V8 is going to be in the H3T

lamric
03-24-2007, 06:34 PM
GM is supposed to be introducing 7 new vehicles at the NY Auto Show next month... I haven't seen a list of these yet and am hoping one will be a new or upgraded Hummer.

Huck BB62
03-24-2007, 07:04 PM
Saw what, a piece of paper the dealer had in his hands, or did you actually see the engine in a H3?

What kills me is many on this thread were naysayers a few weeks ago, now, because someone sees a piece of paper it is all real.

No need to answer, I already know that, as well as axles, t/case, ratios, will it be DOD or not, transmission, etc. I'll let all you state your own theories.
As for will I ever purchase a V8? Not really sure, but I can say this, unless Hummer comes out with some new colors next year, I will be jumping to the Jeep forum.

Dude, drink a cold one wouldja? You'd SERIOUSLY wouldn't buy a Hummer because of color choices?!? Sounds like something a chick would say: "I like the Vikings because they wear purple" (just yankin' your chain) Yellow's my choice but if it's not available, I don't give a frickin' rip if they're tittty pink, I'm gettin' a machine with a real engine in it, not some parts bin marginalization that leaves me wanting more. The jeep certainly doesn't fill that bill, nothing else does except for the Dodge Powerwagon and it's big, it drinks gas as bad as an H2, and well, it's a Dodge. We'd have an H2 but for the mileage thing and an H2 just doesn't make sense for what we need it for (we already have a Denali)

I'm sorry you're so cynical about the papers. This is the sales manager at the Hummer dealership. He's a good guy, I know him pretty well by now. Every time I've called or stopped by and asked about the V8, he's said "Not yet" "No word yet" "It's a rumor" He's been very much on the up and up with me and he was very excited to see me to tell me about this. He's not the kind of guy that wants to look foolish, so I believe him.

What's your motivation for being such a nay sayer guy? Is the V8 just something you abhor? Is it that you don't want it to happen? You don't believe it is true? Or maybe you think the early news of the V8 coming out will harm current sales and make people want to put off buying an H3 until the V8 comes out? :)

Yup, I like the hope thing. It makes my day to live hopefully. I buy three lottery tickets every week too. I think my odds of driving a V8 H3 will occur long before I win the lottery.:dancingbanana:

Hummer Guy
03-25-2007, 01:33 AM
he's not cynical of the papers..he's cynical of the people who now believe its coming, when most people on this board have known it IS coming for a looooong time, and have been hinting at it...

timgco
03-25-2007, 02:35 AM
.... and soooooooooo many people have been making STATEMENTS that it is coming and it will be a six door selectable deisel to gas to steam engine.

My dealer (and other dealers) have been saying "it's coming in, June, July, Aug.....blah bliggity blahhhhhhh) GREAT! At some point we'll see something!!

I think the point that F5 is making is that there are only one or two people on this board that know for sure (and have factual first hand info.)
....and laugh at all the non-factual comments that may or may not be steering people in the wrong dirrection. ??:popcorn: ??

At least that's my take on it!

Steve - SanJose
03-25-2007, 02:50 AM
My point earlier in this thread was we weren't getting diddly from this forum on the upcoming V8, so I spit it out when I heard it from somebody reputable at the dealership.

Viet Nam Vette
03-25-2007, 03:01 AM
V8.............:popcorn:

Hummer Guy
03-25-2007, 04:18 AM
My point earlier in this thread was we weren't getting diddly from this forum on the upcoming V8

<cough cough> F5 has been 'speculating' for some time...F5 speculating about a possible, and likely V8 is like a member of the federal reserve board speculating interest rates are going to tank next week. Yes, it may be 'speculation,' but if you don't take it seriously you're crazy....

Steve - SanJose
03-25-2007, 05:30 AM
The speculation is old news here and in all the various car mags and publications I read. The info here wasn't coming any earlier or in any greater detail. Specifics are finally starting to come out whiich is nice.

Sewie
03-25-2007, 05:48 AM
The speculation is old news here and in all the various car mags and publications I read. The info here wasn't coming any earlier or in any greater detail. Specifics are finally starting to come out whiich is nice.

It's been hinted at for months on here by people in the know. They're not going to just come out and give you all the details. Would you if it might mean your job? :rolleyes:

No offense to Huck, but like was said before, many on here were able to read between the lines and already knew the V8 was reality.

Steve - SanJose
03-25-2007, 06:06 AM
It's been hinted at for months on here by people in the know. They're not going to just come out and give you all the details. Would you if it might mean your job? :rolleyes:

No offense to Huck, but like was said before, many on here were able to read between the lines and already knew the V8 was reality.

Just stating the facts. No more details here any earlier than anywhere else is all I'm saying. I don't expect anybody wants to lose their job over this and it's certainly not worth it in my opinion, plus they are busy looking for work elsewhere.

But the good news it that GM is showing continous improvement with successful products such as the H3 instead of waiting for sales declines.

RubHer Yellow Ducky
03-25-2007, 06:27 AM
Why doesn't anyone believe me ? On SuperBowl Sunday they showed several H-3's on South Beach (no cameras allowed, including cell phones)

A V-8 in a std body painted CAMO. A TRUCK painted CAMO hood closed, and a couple of others...

Sewie
03-25-2007, 08:47 AM
Why doesn't anyone believe me ?

I never believe anyone who always posts in bold, blue type.

NEOCON1
03-25-2007, 02:21 PM
.... and soooooooooo many people have been making STATEMENTS that it is coming and it will be a six door selectable deisel to gas to steam engine.



:giggling:


Man i gotta put my order for one of them puppies in , more details tim ??? ;)

:jump: :jump:

f5fstop
03-25-2007, 02:37 PM
he's not cynical of the papers..he's cynical of the people who now believe its coming, when most people on this board have known it IS coming for a looooong time, and have been hinting at it...

That's correct.

f5fstop
03-25-2007, 02:37 PM
.... and soooooooooo many people have been making STATEMENTS that it is coming and it will be a six door selectable deisel to gas to steam engine.

My dealer (and other dealers) have been saying "it's coming in, June, July, Aug.....blah bliggity blahhhhhhh) GREAT! At some point we'll see something!!

I think the point that F5 is making is that there are only one or two people on this board that know for sure (and have factual first hand info.)
....and laugh at all the non-factual comments that may or may not be steering people in the wrong dirrection. ??:popcorn: ??

At least that's my take on it!

You are correct too....

f5fstop
03-25-2007, 02:41 PM
Dude, drink a cold one wouldja? You'd SERIOUSLY wouldn't buy a Hummer because of color choices?!? Sounds like something a chick would say: "I like the Vikings because they wear purple" (just yankin' your chain) Yellow's my choice but if it's not available, I don't give a frickin' rip if they're tittty pink, I'm gettin' a machine with a real engine in it, not some parts bin marginalization that leaves me wanting more. The jeep certainly doesn't fill that bill, nothing else does except for the Dodge Powerwagon and it's big, it drinks gas as bad as an H2, and well, it's a Dodge. We'd have an H2 but for the mileage thing and an H2 just doesn't make sense for what we need it for (we already have a Denali)

I'm sorry you're so cynical about the papers. This is the sales manager at the Hummer dealership. He's a good guy, I know him pretty well by now. Every time I've called or stopped by and asked about the V8, he's said "Not yet" "No word yet" "It's a rumor" He's been very much on the up and up with me and he was very excited to see me to tell me about this. He's not the kind of guy that wants to look foolish, so I believe him.

What's your motivation for being such a nay sayer guy? Is the V8 just something you abhor? Is it that you don't want it to happen? You don't believe it is true? Or maybe you think the early news of the V8 coming out will harm current sales and make people want to put off buying an H3 until the V8 comes out? :)

Yup, I like the hope thing. It makes my day to live hopefully. I buy three lottery tickets every week too. I think my odds of driving a V8 H3 will occur long before I win the lottery.:dancingbanana:

If I make a decision on a vehicle purchase because of the color it is my decision NOT YOURS, and I could care less what you think. The new colors are not exciting to me; however, after I actually seem them on a H3, I might change my mind. However, right now, Hummer offers NO colors that I like other than white, and I already have white.
Read the threads, I am only a naysayer because you say you saw it, and yet all you have seen is a piece of paper. A piece of paper, unless it is your order, means squat.
Only thing I will agree with is the odds of a V8 coming out is better than the odds given in most lottos.

NEOCON1
03-25-2007, 02:58 PM
Green rules ;) if it aint green i dont want one :giggling:

3Hummer
03-25-2007, 04:32 PM
Green rules ;) if it aint green i dont want one :giggling:

alright stop shoving it in... that was the color i wanted ever since the car came out and i was like "when i get my license im going to get a green h3" come time for me to finally order it they told me they no longer made the color, but since i loved the car i went witht he next best color slate blue!

Huck BB62
03-25-2007, 05:19 PM
I love it. "I could care less what you think... but here's what I think of what you sad over and over and over again!!!!" Ad nauseum. Quite amusing.

Once more, with emphasis. This thread was not about what I think or what I saw. This thread is about what this sales manager, that until this week was MORE cynical than anyone on this forum is about a V8 coming out, KNOWS about it coming out. That's all, sum total, period.

My reaction to his enthusiasm is that after hearing him put the kabosh on the V8 hope for so long, I believe him. I believe him more than anyone here. All I can say to the folks that don't want to think it's coming for the '08 model year is why, for the love of Pete, are you so adamant about this? Were you the kind of kid that when your buddy said "The ice cream man is coming, the ice cream man is coming" you said "Nuh uh"? Only to miss out on the joy of anticipation of a treat because you didn't have time to go harange ma for a quarter?

F5, I really appreciate your postings, they've helped a lot of people on here more than any service manager that I've met. I think you're wrong on this one. I think Hummer's in for another good year of sales because maybe they're listening. No, you can't order one now, and that's not what I said.

Hope, it's the good stuff. I can't wait to drive my pink H3 Alpha!

NEOCON1
03-25-2007, 08:02 PM
alright stop shoving it in..!



Im sorry ;) :D

f5fstop
03-25-2007, 08:42 PM
I love it. "I could care less what you think... but here's what I think of what you sad over and over and over again!!!!" Ad nauseum. Quite amusing.

Once more, with emphasis. This thread was not about what I think or what I saw. This thread is about what this sales manager, that until this week was MORE cynical than anyone on this forum is about a V8 coming out, KNOWS about it coming out. That's all, sum total, period.

My reaction to his enthusiasm is that after hearing him put the kabosh on the V8 hope for so long, I believe him. I believe him more than anyone here. All I can say to the folks that don't want to think it's coming for the '08 model year is why, for the love of Pete, are you so adamant about this? Were you the kind of kid that when your buddy said "The ice cream man is coming, the ice cream man is coming" you said "Nuh uh"? Only to miss out on the joy of anticipation of a treat because you didn't have time to go harange ma for a quarter?

F5, I really appreciate your postings, they've helped a lot of people on here more than any service manager that I've met. I think you're wrong on this one. I think Hummer's in for another good year of sales because maybe they're listening. No, you can't order one now, and that's not what I said.

Hope, it's the good stuff. I can't wait to drive my pink H3 Alpha!

Did I EVER say there will be NO V8? The point I'm trying to make is that for months, there have been more threads on the future V8, than there have been on the Cylinder head issue. In each of these threads there have been those who believe, those who do not believe, and those who can't say YES or NO.
Just wait until April, and we will find out if the manager is right or wrong. Believe me, I know the answer, but I just can't say what it is.

H3 Builder
03-26-2007, 01:48 AM
Did I EVER say there will be NO V8? The point I'm trying to make is that for months, there have been more threads on the future V8, than there have been on the Cylinder head issue. In each of these threads there have been those who believe, those who do not believe, and those who can't say YES or NO.
Just wait until April, and we will find out if the manager is right or wrong. Believe me, I know the answer, but I just can't say what it is.

F5 is right. If anyone in the know says and or shows anything on future models until GM is ready for this information to come out, can be held accountable for their actions. For example, the new high performance Corvette was leaked out from the inside. GM found the leak and what I've heard the person was punnished. I for one, don't want anyone breathing down my neck for something like this. Again , we'll see what's available by May.

MB4wd
03-26-2007, 04:03 AM
A V8 would be interesting, I just wonder if the drivetrain and fron end will be beefed to match? i would hate to see GM just drop in a V8 and not be able to use it.

How about ya solid axle swap?:D

Jeff G
03-26-2007, 05:10 AM
If the V-8 ends up in the mid 40's, I'll just buy an H2 SUT, what I should have bought in the first place until the Mrs. got involved in the purchase.:jump:

The Green Lantern
03-26-2007, 05:33 AM
alright stop shoving it in... that was the color i wanted ever since the car came out and i was like "when i get my license im going to get a green h3" come time for me to finally order it they told me they no longer made the color, but since i loved the car i went witht he next best color slate blue!

GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN GREEN

:clapping:

Huck BB62
03-26-2007, 06:41 AM
If the V-8 ends up in the mid 40's, I'll just buy an H2 SUT, what I should have bought in the first place until the Mrs. got involved in the purchase.:jump:

I like the look of the SUT, I just wish they'd come out with an extracab with a longer bed on it to make it useful. Hell, my quad's 7'10" long! (that and that whole gas mileage thing) The H3's a real pleasure to drive in town, super tight turning radius and all that. My Sierra however, is not. We have a Denali and it's not going anywhere so the V8 H3 will be our next vehicle.

Jeff G
03-26-2007, 11:30 AM
I'm just curious as to why they didn't design or even consider the H3 SUT, considering they are available in the H1 & H2. I know there wouldn't be much room back there, but hell there isn't in the H2 either.:beerchug:

Diabolus
03-26-2007, 01:11 PM
I'm just curious as to why they didn't design or even consider the H3 SUT, considering they are available in the H1 & H2. I know there wouldn't be much room back there, but hell there isn't in the H2 either.:beerchug:

Patience, grasshopper.... ----->http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21054&highlight=h3+sut

Jeff G
03-26-2007, 02:00 PM
Patience, grasshopper.... ----->http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21054&highlight=h3+sut

I remember when those pics came out. I just hope they're not sticking a Colorado bed on it. As far as any info from Hummer, the only thing I have seen is the H3T, which may sell, I wouldn't buy one but there may be people who would. Thanks for the info. :beerchug:

Steve - SanJose
03-26-2007, 04:38 PM
My next UAV will be white again, whatever it is.

hmrlvr
03-26-2007, 11:53 PM
http://jalopnik.com/cars/new-york-auto-show/new-york-auto-show-preview-the-h3-coulda-had-a-v8-so-now-it-does-247257.php

Viet Nam Vette
03-27-2007, 12:12 AM
More.....:popcorn:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=117216

NEOCON1
03-27-2007, 01:10 AM
i just want that front Diff :jump: :jump: :jump:

RubHer Yellow Ducky
03-27-2007, 02:06 AM
alright stop shoving it in... that was the color i wanted ever since the car came out and i was like "when i get my license im going to get a green h3" come time for me to finally order it they told me they no longer made the color, but since i loved the car i went witht he next best color slate blue!

GOSH, I feel old...

I got mine in 1961

HummBebe
03-27-2007, 05:07 AM
i just want that front Diff :jump: :jump: :jump:

Since we were the first two to take them out on the battlefield, I think they should "Award" them to us:jump::jump:



J/K:fdance:

Sewie
03-27-2007, 07:47 AM
Since we were the first two after Sewie to take them out on the battlefield, I think they should "Award" them to us


Fixed. I guess that means that I'd get mine first then, huh? ;)

NEOCON1
03-27-2007, 02:05 PM
Fixed. I guess that means that I'd get mine first then, huh? ;)


i think they owe us all one since we were the first to find the H3's weak link . funny how the General is taking care of two major issues with the Alpha . first it will shut up everyone saying the H3 is gutless . second ,putting in the front diff they should of used in the first place , atleast for those of us who dont just wheel the Mall :p ;)


if we can get that axle assembly , beebs has the winch , Golden Spike here we come , we dont need no stinkin H2's :fdance: :p ;)

:jump: :jump: :jump: :jump:

f5fstop
03-27-2007, 10:07 PM
No parts list available, and there might be only a complete assembly for the first six months. So, if you want a complete assembly, just wait till the vehicle is released, then you can order one, but parts are not released for service until vehicle is released for sale.

Trinity
03-28-2007, 02:27 AM
I just traded my 06 H3 in 2 weeks ago and got an 07 H2 SUT, so I'm moving across the street to the H2 boards. I loved my H3 and am thankful that Hummer had a cheaper alternative to get me hooked on the larger prize. Thanks to all the other H3 members. I've enjoyed your posts and learned a lot from you. See ya'll on the trails!