H2 Vandalized

[H2_SUT_SC]

Saw this on msnbc this morning.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19818804/

[NewHummerGuy]

Man that fu%kin plsses me off right there. And I love how the c unt author of the story (Allison Klein) has to state:

"So he parked the seven-foot-tall behemoth on the street in front of his house and smiled politely when his eco-friendly neighbors looked on in disapproval at his "dream car."

Stupid c unt:rant: :rant: :rant:

[devilsfan]

It IS a freakin behemoth. That's what I love about it!

I feel bad for the dude tho. Whatever happened to this being a free country? What gets me - you never see UPS trucks with their sides carved up and tires slashed. And you know they get worse gas mileage than Hummers.

Stacy

[Hmmm2]

I guess I keep forgetting that we live in a FREE country .. the U.S.A., where everyone is able to buy whatever they want, live where they want, practice their own religion, etc., etc., etc. What does it matter to anyone what someone drives?! If an Escalade, Excursion, Navigator would have been parked out there, nothing would have happened. I don't smurk at people when I see them driving a Prius .. and I don't smurk at people driving Excursions ... I just enjoy my own vehicle and drive along with the rest. This story makes me sick. Now the guy is afraid to think of what may happen if he gets it repaired and parks it back in front of his home? If he doesn't repair it, then he's giving in to all of the jerks in his neighborhood. Freedom of choice .. he can, as we ALL can, drive what we want! You know that ALL of the neighbors know who bashed in his SUT .. they probably paid two of the neighborhood teens to do it in the middle of the night. The one who witnessed it was probably the lookout. There, I've said my piece ... stepping down off of my soapbox now. :rant:

[timgco]

I bet it was two H3 owners that didn;t like his recent purchase.
:giggling:


Damn, that is harsh. Now, it's time for this guy to get a security system (H2 and home). I wonder if he's a member of the forum or has at least been over here.

[NJ H2]

We should do a convoy to his street and park 100 HUMMERS up and down both sides of his Street! Then just sit back and wait for the losers to raise their ugly heads!

[timgco]

We should do a convoy to his street and park 100 HUMMERS up and down both sides of his Street! Then just sit back and wait for the losers to raise their ugly heads!


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If someone is in his area, they should stop by and talk with him about the forum. At some point, the vadals will post on some treehigger forum for throw a pic up on FUH2. Than our trusty forum brothers/ sisters can go to work.

[Devis1957]

Geez, I feel worse for him than I do for my own Hummer issues.

[algy]

I'm like a stones throw away from 395 and can head up to DC anyone have an address? NW DC is very densely populated. Looking for the police blotter to score an address.

DC Metropolitan Police Department:

No blot about the incident yet:

http://newsroom.dc.gov/list.aspx/agency/mpdc/section/2/year/2007/page/1

There is talk about a Hummer rally on this guy's street this Saturday.

[jmsspratlin]

This is ....CRAZY!

[algy]

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[algy]

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[audiofetish]

That makes me so happy that I now live out in the south where I get much more envious looks than dirty ones even with my license plate!!!!

[Hmmm2]

OMG those pics make me sick. I think a rally of Hummers up and down his street one day would give him great moral support and let the local treehuggers know that others are keeping an eye on THEM! I'd be there if I lived on the east coast... I'm in S. Cal. Even if a few of you guys who live out that way made a visit on one day would be better than none.

[dochummer]

That'd be a great idea! Someone should call him and have bbq....get all the hummers lined up and down the street... :)

This was funnay...

alamarina (http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/profile.aspx?ForumID=11&UserID=4506981)Message #37
07/18/07 06:50 AM

I heard of such incidents in Calif but found it hard to believe. It's America people. We are free to do what we please. This is nothing less than environmental terrorism. By the way, I am and have been an environmentalist since the 60's. Yes, I was at the first Earth Day, am a Vegetarian, belong to the Sierra Club and PETA, and also the NRA. I recycle, compost, and eat organic products. I also just got myself a beautiful 2007 Escalade. My business, not yours. Come to my house in Philadelphia and try to vandalize my Escalade or attack me in any other way for what I legally own and do. I'll be glad to introduce you to Smith and Wesson and we can all discuss it!

[IRA51]

Would love to catch some co*ksucker in the act of messing with mine.

[azlooker]

This is why I have camera's monitoring and recording all the time. Little jerks egged my vehicle until I caught them one night and scared the bejesus out of them with the H2. They have not been back since. I feel sorry for the guy because he lives in a crappy place.

[Steve - SanJose]

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[IRA51]

sign of the times,there are more deranged people around I guess.messing with a man's ride is probably the most chickens*it thing that I can think of .the vandel's are some punk @ss cowards that don't have the brains or balls to confront the owner of the H2 face to face .they were probably misstreated as children and never grown up . too bad they don't try that in Singapoure .

[Tex_h2]

We should do a convoy to his street and park 100 HUMMERS up and down both sides of his Street! Then just sit back and wait for the losers to raise their ugly heads!


He'll I would drive up from Texas to join that convoy. H1, H2, and H3.....

F**King eco's...........

[zmanH2]

We should do a convoy to his street and park 100 HUMMERS up and down both sides of his Street! Then just sit back and wait for the losers to raise their ugly heads!


What a great idea! I wish I was closer so I could support the cause.

[SHYANNE]

What i dont under stand you can drive a excurison with a V 10 and get around 8 OR 9 MPG and no one cares .then say would tell you how cool it looks with a lift kit and big tires.why oh why ????

[frenzy1]

Wow ! Just saw the pics. That's scary !! Freakin' econazi's !!! DON'T TOUCH ANOTHER PERSONS PROPERTY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frenzy

[OrangeCrush]

Never mind that Prius's are more detrimental to the environment in the long run but WTF is wrong with these people?

Regardless if I happen to love my H2, what someone else does/drives in none of those freakin' tree huggers' business.

I can't believe that people are so narrow-minded.

Arggghhhh

[mikejr]

thats just wrong...

to cause that much damage they would have had to be onsite for a few minutes and that would make one hell of alot of racket...yet none of the neighbors reported this? Sad state of affairs this world has come to.

Sounds like a good way to get back at them....a Hummer party at his house!

Hope we can find him and bring him into the forum!

[zoe1]

I'm environmentally inclined and think what these people did is tragic in more ways than one. It's completely improper and unforgivable that someone does something like this to another person's property. I hope that these folks are found and that they encounter consequences for their actions.

Secondly, if I were the guy with the Hummer, I'd be uneasy living at this residence with my car. That's gotta be a horrible feeling to endure on a daily basis.

Thirdly, these jokers have given all the rest of us a very bad image. What they did is no way to get out a message in a way that will have any kind of a positive impact on their cause. So, I hope you don't paint us all with such a very broad brush. We're not all like that. I'm enraged by this.

When I joined this forum I joined specifically to disprove a comment that I read about the Prius being more environmentally damaging than a Hummer. I've come to find that you're all great folks here. We may have different priorities, but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate you guys. Please don't generalize us as I've found that I certainly shouldn't be generalizing all of you.

[ChiHummer3]

Zoe -
Clearly you don't own a Hummer and never will, so how is it that you've stumbled onto this forum? And, exactly how many forums to you sound off on just to try to prove you point?? :confused:

[zoe1]

I always make an attempt to see where people with different interests are coming from so that I don't wind up like the jerks that did this to the Hummer. Besides, I like Ducky and the rest of you.

[NewHummerGuy]

Zoe... your quote is absolutely correct.

"When I joined this forum I joined specifically to disprove a comment that I read about the Prius being more environmentally damaging than a Prius."

You are 100% correct. A Prius IS much more damaging than a Prius:giggling:

:OWNED: by ones own self:jump:

[zoe1]

Ha ha. Nice bait. No takers. I've said enough in the other thread. I'm sure you all will agree!

[NewHummerGuy]

Ha ha. Nice bait. No takers. I've said enough in the other thread. I'm sure you all will agree!

"Prius being more environmentally damaging than a Prius"

Yes Zoe, we all agree:beerchug:

[zoe1]

What are you talking about???? Read my post again. You're seeing things. :giggling:

[h2co-pilot]

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[NewHummerGuy]

What are you talking about???? Read my post again. You're
seeing things. :giggling:


Last edited by zoe1 : Today at 12:38 PM.


Nice try C UNToledo

[zoe1]

You guys have proven no better than the vandals that you are so disgusted by. They treat the cars of other people they don't appreciate like S*** and you find it appropriate to treat people that don't drive the same car as you like S***. All of this occurring because someone doesn't drive the same car. It would be laughable if it weren't so unbelievable and such a poor reflection on humanity these days.

[H2bill]

You guys have proven no better than the vandals that you are so disgusted by. They treat the cars of other people they don't appreciate like S*** and you find it appropriate to treat people that don't drive the same car as you like S***. All of this occurring because someone doesn't drive the same car. It would be laughable if it weren't so unbelievable and such a poor reflection on humanity these days.

Actually, I think most of the frustration comes not from having different tastes in vehicles, but instead from the hypocrisy of the enviromentalists and the left demonstrated on a near daily basis.

I mean how many vehicles are out there on the road that get equal to or less mpg than the hummer, cost equal to or more than the hummer, and have an equal to or bigger footprint than the hummer? And it's the hummer that is evil?

I may have many reasons why I think the Subaru or Range Rover you drive is an ugly POS, but I don't feel I have the need or 'right' to vandalize it. So your car gets 30 mpg and you commute 50 miles a day to work. I ride my bicycle to work and use my H2 for pleasure putting 8,000 miles a year on it. So who has the bigger impact on the environment?

[BigPoppa1411]

You guys have proven no better than the vandals that you are so disgusted by. They treat the cars of other people they don't appreciate like S*** and you find it appropriate to treat people that don't drive the same car as you like S***. All of this occurring because someone doesn't drive the same car. It would be laughable if it weren't so unbelievable and such a poor reflection on humanity these days.
:violin: ;)

[NewHummerGuy]

You guys have proven no better than the vandals that you are so disgusted by. They treat the cars of other people they don't appreciate like S*** and you find it appropriate to treat people that don't drive the same car as you like S***. All of this occurring because someone doesn't drive the same car. It would be laughable if it weren't so unbelievable and such a poor reflection on humanity these days.

WHY IN THE F UCK ARE YOU ON THIS SITE THEN????????????

This topic (hummer vs prius) has been discussed ad nauseum. Go to prius site and bad mouth hummers all you want. What else do you expect coming to a HUMMER site where most posters LOVE them and try to instill your bogus beliefs.

Actually, where were you the other night???? I am going to have the DC police call you as I think maybe it was YOU zoe1 who damaged the guys hummer.

[algy]

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[NewHummerGuy]

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Is that Ron??? Looks like a young Ron ;)

[Steve - SanJose]

wtf

[FiremanJay]

Im with NJH2 lets go to his house and camp out show our support

[meathook]

LEAVE NO HUMMER behind !!!!!!!!

AS A VICTION OF VANDALISIM YOU CAN SEE MY PHOTOS

LETS FIGHT THE TREE HUGGIN ,AL GORE LOVIN,GREEN PEACE,WHALE WATCHIN,GO GREEN QUEENS...

[bjc]

Actually, I would like to hire those vandals for one more job:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fse arch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D 170132425350%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1&item=170132425350

[RuggedH2]

Damn, the previous owner of that POS claimed to have spent 80K to vandalize his own ride. :OWNED: by no taste, whatsoever.

[Gunzz]

Im with NJH2 lets go to his house and camp out show our support

I'm in. We should try and find a day and do it. I am here in Jersey and would gladly take the trip for support.

[jmsspratlin]

I'm in. We should try and find a day and do it. I am here in Jersey and would gladly take the trip for support.



You guys are funny:D

[Alt-F4]

To bad the FBI wasn't looking into it as "domestic terrorism" I bet they would have them in custody in no time.

[SHYANNE]

I am coming there to look for those guys and when they find me heres what I will be driving ! If you dont like hummers and big ones look out and get out of the way. I would love to meet those low lifes who did that and see what they think about this one when its runs over thier little rice burner. Its on ebay but man I would love to drive it over those guys cars when I found them.

[jmsspratlin]

Wonder how the public would view it if Hummer owners went and vandalized all the rice burners?

[SHYANNE]

No one said ALL THE RICE BURNERS AS YOU SAID .I SAID (THIER) RICE BURNER AS IN ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO DID THIS DAMAGE TO THIS GUYS H 2. NOT ALLLLLLLL THE RICE BURNERS AS YOU SAID :confused:

[TKB]

Sh!t I don't see the harm in my H2......as far as I'm concerned I'm helping the economy by supporting gas importation.....If these pu$$y a$$ tree huggers want to save the earth, they need to lobbey comercial airlines....public transit systems......cargo ships.....bombs.....space program? I don't even care about nature and I came up with other sh!t to really complain about in less than 20 seconds....

[jmsspratlin]

No one said ALL THE RICE BURNERS AS YOU SAID .I SAID (THIER) RICE BURNER AS IN ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO DID THIS DAMAGE TO THIS GUYS H 2. NOT ALLLLLLLL THE RICE BURNERS AS YOU SAID :confused:






Sorry, let me correct myself.....ONLY THE RICE BURNERS OF THE OWNERS. Heaven forbid a preactive strike.;) :D

[jmsspratlin]

Sh!t I don't see the harm in my H2......as far as I'm concerned I'm helping the economy by supporting gas importation.....If these pu$$y a$$ tree huggers want to save the earth, they need to lobbey comercial airlines....public transit systems......cargo ships.....bombs.....space program? I don't even care about nature and I came up with other sh!t to really complain about in less than 20 seconds....


To-Shay!!!:beerchug:

[Alan06SUT]

When I joined this forum I joined specifically to disprove a comment that I read about the Prius being more environmentally damaging than a Hummer.

Well, you havent disproved anything. What happens to the batteries that are so toxic? Put them in yucca mountain right? Why is the lifespan only 100,000 miles? Thats not very sustainable. They may cost less to operate than a hummer (MAY b/c I havent researched it yet, and they havent been out long enough to see long term maint.) but they still use fossil fuel and extremely toxic and environmentally un-friendly batteries. Also they have extremely limited capabilities and space. They simply are not up to the task for many people who tow, haul, have big families, etc. You probably have to get furniture and other large items delivered right? Well I can guarantee the truck it comes to your house on gets worse mileage than my H2. So why does everyone want to compare the h2 to the prius so often? The prius is not the answer to pollution, and I believe all they do is make some people feel less guilty due to their faux eco friendly image. Hummer hate does the same thing, falsely releves guilt.

[jmsspratlin]

Well, you havent disproved anything. What happens to the batteries that are so toxic? Put them in yucca mountain right? Why is the lifespan only 100,000 miles? Thats not very sustainable. They may cost less to operate than a hummer (MAY b/c I havent researched it yet, and they havent been out long enough to see long term maint.) but they still use fossil fuel and extremely toxic and environmentally un-friendly batteries. Also they have extremely limited capabilities and space. They simply are not up to the task for many people who tow, haul, have big families, etc. You probably have to get furniture and other large items delivered right? Well I can guarantee the truck it comes to your house on gets worse mileage than my H2. So why does everyone want to compare the h2 to the prius so often? The prius is not the answer to pollution, and I believe all they do is make some people feel less guilty due to their faux eco friendly image. Hummer hate does the same thing, falsely releves guilt.




VERY WELL SAID!

[zoe1]

Well, you havent disproved anything. What happens to the batteries that are so toxic? Put them in yucca mountain right? Why is the lifespan only 100,000 miles? Thats not very sustainable. They may cost less to operate than a hummer (MAY b/c I havent researched it yet, and they havent been out long enough to see long term maint.) but they still use fossil fuel and extremely toxic and environmentally un-friendly batteries. Also they have extremely limited capabilities and space. They simply are not up to the task for many people who tow, haul, have big families, etc. You probably have to get furniture and other large items delivered right? Well I can guarantee the truck it comes to your house on gets worse mileage than my H2. So why does everyone want to compare the h2 to the prius so often? The prius is not the answer to pollution, and I believe all they do is make some people feel less guilty due to their faux eco friendly image. Hummer hate does the same thing, falsely releves guilt.

First, hanks for being so diplomatic. I haven't been well received on this forum even though I've tried the diplomatic approach myself. I appreciate your civility.

The Prius lifespan of 100,000 miles is erroneous. There is a cab fleet in Canada with well over this mileage that's operating on their initial battery packs. Though this isn't an issue yet, the batteries are recycled and the manufacturer offers an incentive for compliance. They're big on keeping these out of the waste stream. And no, so far I've picked up a 10 foot oak tree and a picnic table from Home Depot and have packed it in the car. The car is very accommodating as the back seats fold down. The tow capacity, however, is much lower than the Hummer. I agree that everyone has different needs for a car and that smaller cars aren't for everyone. I do, however, think our perception of what we need is a little skewed. Decades ago, people got along just fine with small cars and small houses.

So far as your last statement, I'm not sure that their acts relieved anyone's guilt. As you can see by the replies on this thread, all they've done is to serve more divisiveness in this country.......over a car. The irony of it is that now the Hummer owner has to go purchase extensive materials to fix his car. That's not really what typical eco people want. I'm not really sure of what they thought they'd accomplish doing something like this. In my mind, I always wonder why people like this get attention. Keep stuff like this out of the media and don't give people like this a platform.

And please know it wasn't me that compared the Prius to the Hummer. They're entirely different cars with different purposes and as such, there can never be a true comparison.

[dеiтайожни]

Decades ago, people got along just fine with small cars and small houses.

100,000 years ago people got along just fine with no cars and tiny caves. I see no reason for progress, maybe we should revert back to that way of life. You go first. :giggling:

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

There's a good chance he/she all ready has...

How do you get internet access in your cave anyhow?:fdance:

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Decades ago, people got along just fine with small cars

Decades ago, people drove around in these kind of things. ANYTHING but small, zoe...

[HummerHippy]

Actually, I would like to hire those vandals for one more job:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fse arch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D 170132425350%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1&item=170132425350


Eewwww! wft is that???

[HummerHippy]

Sh!t I don't see the harm in my H2......as far as I'm concerned I'm helping the economy by supporting gas importation.....If these pu$$y a$$ tree huggers want to save the earth, they need to lobbey comercial airlines....public transit systems......cargo ships.....bombs.....space program? I don't even care about nature and I came up with other sh!t to really complain about in less than 20 seconds....

Exactly! How many H2's sold in the us last year? About 17,000 I think I read. Compare that to the ... i dunno... 125,000 F150s and another 125,000 Exporers. I think there are A LOT more other vehicles doing much more damage then H2s!!!

And I'm a left wing, tree huggin liberal! There I said it. :) And I own a HUMMER!

[Alan06SUT]

First, hanks for being so diplomatic. I haven't been well received on this forum even though I've tried the diplomatic approach myself. I appreciate your civility.

The Prius lifespan of 100,000 miles is erroneous. There is a cab fleet in Canada with well over this mileage that's operating on their initial battery packs. Though this isn't an issue yet, the batteries are recycled and the manufacturer offers an incentive for compliance. They're big on keeping these out of the waste stream. And no, so far I've picked up a 10 foot oak tree and a picnic table from Home Depot and have packed it in the car. The car is very accommodating as the back seats fold down. The tow capacity, however, is much lower than the Hummer. I agree that everyone has different needs for a car and that smaller cars aren't for everyone. I do, however, think our perception of what we need is a little skewed. Decades ago, people got along just fine with small cars and small houses.

So far as your last statement, I'm not sure that their acts relieved anyone's guilt. As you can see by the replies on this thread, all they've done is to serve more divisiveness in this country.......over a car. The irony of it is that now the Hummer owner has to go purchase extensive materials to fix his car. That's not really what typical eco people want. I'm not really sure of what they thought they'd accomplish doing something like this. In my mind, I always wonder why people like this get attention. Keep stuff like this out of the media and don't give people like this a platform.

And please know it wasn't me that compared the Prius to the Hummer. They're entirely different cars with different purposes and as such, there can never be a true comparison.

Thank you for conceding that there are different people with different needs out there and that comparing the two is unproductive. I agree that this stunt will only make the greenies look mean and intolerant of others' preferences. It is very ironic!

I still am not convinced that the prius is so "green". The batteries and their current methods of production are the least bit "green", especially when you consider the importation/exprotation (the fuel used during this), and the toxic waste produced.

I'm sure there are some that will exceed the 100,000 mile but the average lifespan is what matters. That means the prius would have to be recycled nearly three times (and use all of the energy to build it back again, and the batteries, etc.) to be on par with the Hummer and other domestic trucks who's lifespans are nearly 300,000 miles.

The prius costs less for the end user at the gas pump, but other than that, I don't see any real advantage to it over a comparable strictly gas powered econo box. I am glad you are happy with the Prius and hopefully your are glad that we are happy with our Hummers! It takes all kinds to make the world go around! Peace.

[zoe1]

Thank you for conceding that there are different people with different needs out there and that comparing the two is unproductive. I agree that this stunt will only make the greenies look mean and intolerant of others' preferences. It is very ironic!

I still am not convinced that the prius is so "green". The batteries and their current methods of production are the least bit "green", especially when you consider the importation/exprotation (the fuel used during this), and the toxic waste produced.

I'm sure there are some that will exceed the 100,000 mile but the average lifespan is what matters. That means the prius would have to be recycled nearly three times (and use all of the energy to build it back again, and the batteries, etc.) to be on par with the Hummer and other domestic trucks who's lifespans are nearly 300,000 miles.

The prius costs less for the end user at the gas pump, but other than that, I don't see any real advantage to it over a comparable strictly gas powered econo box. I am glad you are happy with the Prius and hopefully your are glad that we are happy with our Hummers! It takes all kinds to make the world go around! Peace.

Unfortunately the stuff mined for the Prius batteries is also mined (to a much greater degree) for a ton of other stuff we buy. But I do recognize that the Prius (let alone any other car) can never truly be "green".

The Prius is going on nearly 10 years of production and I haven't heard of one battery pack that has had to be replaced. But yes, the technology can be considered "in it's infancy" and only time will tell as to average life span. That's my gripe about the reports out there to date. They're all based on assumptions and historical data.

Thank you, again, for your kindness. And may Peace be with you as well.

[jmsspratlin]

:grouphug: :beerchug:

[HUM GOOD]

That's just not right. If we are planning to go out there, I'm in. NJ is just around the corner.

As for the vandals - I must say, someone to do that was definitely abused as a child. An acoholic uncle must of stuck it in their ass. They have small dicks, can't get it up and their girlfriend/wife has a mustache.:fdance:

Someone like this stands for NOTHING ENVIRMENTAL - THEY JUST GOT SOME F#*KING SCREWS LOOSE.