Shackle lift and quick disconnects

[Sewie]

So here?s my take on the shackle lift and quick disconnects. I?ve been tracking down and putting together a list of the parts for awhile. Finally got everything and put it on this afternoon. Here?s what I used:

Shackles ? Warrior YJ rear 1.25? lift, part #WAR123 ? www.warriorproducts.com (http://www.warriorproducts.com/)

These are 6" hole-to-hole, about 2.5" longer than stock. You can see how much beefier these are than the stockers. I actually bent one of the stock shackles at some point. Didn?t even notice until I took them off.

http://www.h3adventures.com/tech/IMG_2494.jpg

http://www.h3adventures.com/tech/IMG_2495.jpg


Bar Pin Eliminators ? Rocky Road Outfitters - http://www.rocky-road.com/zjbarpin.html (http://www.rocky-road.com/zjbarpin.html)

I wanted to match the rear shocks to the front but Bilstein doesn?t make the 5125 with a barpin. The BPE also moves the mounting point down about 1? to compensate for the shackle lift.

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Swaybar Disconnects ? JKS Quicker Disconnects, WJ 0? lift front, part #3100 - http://store.jksmfg.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=QRDISC&Store_Code=JKS01&Category_Code=Swaybar_Disconnects (http://store.jksmfg.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=QRDISC&Store_Code=JKS01&Category_Code=Swaybar_Disconnects)

You can adjust the length on these and at their shortest are around 1? longer than the OEM endlinks.

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Shocks ? Bilstein 5125, part #BE56248H5 - http://www.bilstein.com/offroad_5125.php (http://www.bilstein.com/offroad_5125.php)

These have 10? of travel and are valved the same as the Cognito/Bilstein front shocks.

[Sewie]

The install on all of this is pretty straightforward so I?m not going to bother going through all the steps. But here?s a couple shots of everything installed.

http://www.h3adventures.com/tech/IMG_2496.jpg

The bar pin eliminator
http://www.h3adventures.com/tech/IMG_2498.jpg

With the quick disconnect removed.
http://www.h3adventures.com/tech/IMG_2499.jpg

A couple ?after? measurements.

Bottom of front hanger = 13.5?
Hub to fender lip = 25?
To top of bumper = 35.5?

[JaKaL]

Nicely done Sir! Looks great! How does it perform with the bilsteins in the rear?

[Stevenblanca]

Very nice Sewie. Thanks for sharing :beerchug:

Hey who said we could'nt find parts for the H3?

Is the 11 degree swivle of the connectors enough? I remember IPE needed washers because his connectors didn't have ball joints and because of this couldn't handle the angle without washers. Yours has some type of ball joint right?

[Steve - SanJose]

Sure looks sturdy. Let us know how it feels after driving it for a couple days.

[Sewie]

Is the 11 degree swivle of the connectors enough? I remember IPE needed washers because his connectors didn't have ball joints and because of this couldn't handle the angle without washers. Yours has some type of ball joint right?

I think they'll be fine. They have spherical bushings and have a collar at one end for the offset. They bottom flares out maybe a couple degrees. If becomes a problem I can always grind down the collar to get the endlinks more vertical. They are also greasable, so that will help with wear.

BTW, the stock ones weren't vertical either. They flared in at the bottom a couple degrees.

[Field Scout]

Looks great a very easily doable mod:beerchug: be sure to post on and off road feel and performance:excited:

[SR1355]

Great take on Ipe's mod.. I like the BPE and JKS. Keep us posted on performance.:beerchug:

[marin8703]

very nice mod. would love to hear how they perform. very nice.

[NEOCON1]

very nice sewie :beerchug:

[SR1355]

Sewie, Any updates on your improved flex??? Did you have any problem with brakelines or ABS not being long enough for increased droop???

[wpage]

Sewie,
Nice work and documentation. Kindly follow up with opinions...:beerchug: :beerchug:

[H3slate]

Thanks for the writeup and pics. How are they holding up?

[Sewie]

The ride is much better, on and off road. I haven't run with the swaybar disconnected yet (no need) but there's still a noticeable increase in flex with it connected. I didn't get any pics on the last trip (never bothered stopping to pose ;) ) but I'll try next time out.

Now I just gotta install the new t-bars and level it out again. :D

[Stevenblanca]

I have the same disconnects. Copy pasted it from Sewie. They look great, work great and give you lots of flex even with them connected. My jack could not get the tires off the concrete. You must pull the the ABS wires from the plug in the fender wall. Otherwise the flex will break them. I noticed this when jacking up the rear tires.

I give Sewie a::perfect10s:

[Sewie]

You must pull the the ABS wires from the plug in the fender wall. Otherwise the flex will break them. I noticed this when jacking up the rear tires.

I give Sewie a::perfect10s:


Thanks. :D

The ABS wires were one of the reasons I didn't bother to disco the swaybar on my last run. Did you reattach the cables to the fenderwall somehow? Or are they just dangling there? :confused:

[H3slate]

Wow! I just priced this out, and it is very inexpensive for what you get.

Bilstein front leveling shocks $170 for pair

http://www.trailduty.com/product_info.php?cPath=112_119_78&products_id=486

Bilstein rear shocks 5100 $140 for pair

http://www.shockwarehouse.com/site/product.cfm?id=15025

bar pin eliminators (for mounting rear shocks) $22 a pair

http://www.rocky-road.com/zjbarpin.html

Extended shackles $42 a pair

http://www.jeep4x4center.com/popup.asp?number=WAR123

quick disconnects for rear sway bar $153 a pair

http://store.jksmfg.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=QRDISC&Store_Code=JKS01&Category_Code=Swaybar_Disconnects

That is only $527 plus shipping!

Seems like money well spent to level and improve rear articulation!

This would be perfect if I wasn't in love with the fox shocks. :giggling:

[waynesoffroad]

how do you keep the sway bar up out of the way when it's disconected?

[Sewie]

how do you keep the sway bar up out of the way when it's disconected?

Bungee cords

[trailerpup]

I have pretty much the same thing going here, of course my numbers aren't adding up quite the same way...

2 - 2.0 Fox Racing piggy-back reservoir shocks 459.00

http://www.samcofabrication.com/products/product_info.php?products_id=48&osCsid=d10165927903a11ffa36e63439ea42fa

1 - Russell rear stainless braided brake line kit 195.00

http://www.russellperformance.com/auto/brake/b_lines_suv-hummer.shtml

2 - Samco Shackles 197.00

http://www.samcofabrication.com/products/product_info.php?products_id=47&osCsid=d10165927903a11ffa36e63439ea42fa

2 - JKS Quick Disconnects 130.00

http://www.redrock4x4.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=42&products_id=1964

1 - Hellwig Sway Bar 170.00

http://www.autoaccessoriesgarage.com/cart/prod_page.asp?pid=HWG7682_1&ClientID=1003&vlink=

1 - Purple Cranium Spyder 80.00

http://purplecranium.com/i-63422-h3-hummer-spider.html

2 - Hunner Skid Plates 150.00

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22281


Not to mention...

2 - Borla Stainless Exhaust Tips (waiting to be re-shaped) 900.00

http://borla.com/applications/lookup.aspx/2006/Hummer/H3/Stainless_Steel_Cat-Back_System/140166/

[H3slate]

1 - Purple Cranium Spyder 80.00

http://purplecranium.com/i-63422-h3-hummer-spider.html
About the purple cranium, it only protects the back of the differential. Is this the most vulnerable spot? What about hitting a rock on the front of the diff, seems like you would hit the front more than the rear.

Man, those fox shocks are sexy!! Did you only get the fox shocks for the rear? What are you running up front?

Are you getting improved cornering with the sway bar? Is it just stiffer? or larger dia. too?

[trailerpup]

Hellwig sway bar is 1 1/8 inch. Supposed to be stiffer because it's a little larger. Helps a little. I got it just to help body roll a little. It is not real extreme and I don't drive fast... I have a 3.7. I need to charge up the pressure on the rear shocks. The leafs on the H3 are a little soft imho. Fox up front, too... with the SAW torsion bars. Shocks up front could use a little more gas, too. Purple Cranium looks cool and will provide protection when having to back off a pile of boulders, I guess. There is supposed to be a new diff skid coming from Boulder. Also, I heard somebody is going to do a rear coil/link swap for the H3 rear.

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[H3slate]

I stumbled on the new differential skid on Boulder Accessories website.

Here is a thread I started about it.

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30686

http://www.boulderaccessory.com/images/H3-Skid-PlateRrDiffIMG_8120.jpg

Very beefy, wish I could see the front to know if it is going to scoop up the mud. Don't know the price, but probably at least double what the spyder cover is. The plate looks cool from the back.

[trailerpup]

That's it. Nice.

[craZybastrd]

Hey Sewie,
I know this is an old tread but am considering getting the setup you recomended earlier in this thread. Are you still running all the same products now and have you had any issues? Also are the fox shocks really worth all the extra money over the Blisten conoco?

[HummBebe]

Hey Sewie,
I know this is an old tread but am considering getting the setup you recomended earlier in this thread. Are you still running all the same products now and have you had any issues? Also are the fox shocks really worth all the extra money over the Blisten conoco?

I think the Fox rule,

but they are a little softer than the bilstiens. Depends on what you want.....rock crawling, rough roads, desert terrain, etc.

[Sewie]

The only thing I've changed is I swapped out the BPE's for some JKS ones. I wanted to gain back some shock travel and the JKS ones mount closer to stock. I haven't had any issues at all, except for me not torquing some bolts tight enough. :o

Fox vs. Bilstein is a tough argument. They're completely different shocks. But I've been very happy with the Bilstein's and would get them again in a heartbeat.

[HummBebe]

just say,


"Hummbebe is right":fdance:

[Sewie]

just say,


"Hummbebe is right":fdance:


About what? :confused: :confused:

[Big Dad]

:popcorn:

[bennersj]

Sewie I know this is an old thread but what part number did you order for the JKS bar eliminator. I'm trying to piece this together.