putting HID lights into the DRL fog lamps slot

[pteam]

Hey guys I want to put HID lights into the DRL driving lights / fog lamps slot and make them so I can turn them on / off whenever I choose.

Has anybody put different bulbs in that slot? I know people have said if you put a larger watt bulb in there it can melt the lenses. You guys mean they melted just the glass covering in front, anything else? HIDs are supposted to be alot cooler, think this would be a problem? Is the only problem then that the glass cover is too close or something?

The bulb type in there is 3157 I believe, what do you guys think about putting a HID setup in there?

[KingVinnie]

Been thinking of doing that too. I had them on my dually in the fogs. The fogs on that truck are smaller than the H2 drl. Never had the slightest problem with heat or melting, they ran perfect. I forget the size I put on, h-something if I recall, lot smaller than the 9007s.

[pteam]

Been thinking of doing that too. I had them on my dually in the fogs. The fogs on that truck are smaller than the H2 drl. Never had the slightest problem with heat or melting, they ran perfect. I forget the size I put on, h-something if I recall, lot smaller than the 9007s.

yea man those are sweet! Where did you buy them? What kind? Did you use the stock fog light assembly that was already on the truck and modify it to HID?

I just put HID into the 08 h2 but want to do somethign with the fogs:

Video: http://www.firstclasslimos.net/hid.wmv 2.5 mbs takes a few secs to load

http://www.firstclasslimos.net/hid.jpg
http://www.firstclasslimos.net/hid2.jpg

[Hucky]

you have said, DRL and Fogs in the same paragraph, You do mean into the Day time running light holders, correct?

That would be cool

[pteam]

you have said, DRL and Fogs in the same paragraph, You do mean into the Day time running light holders, correct?

That would be cool

Yes HID into the Day time running light holders.

[tower]

Hey guys I want to put HID lights into the DRL driving lights / fog lamps slot and make them so I can turn them on / off whenever I choose.

Has anybody put different bulbs in that slot? I know people have said if you put a larger watt bulb in there it can melt the lenses. You guys mean they melted just the glass covering in front, anything else? HIDs are supposted to be alot cooler, think this would be a problem? Is the only problem then that the glass cover is too close or something?

The bulb type in there is 3157 I believe, what do you guys think about putting a HID setup in there?Don't do it!!! If you want HID's in the DRL holes, replace the whole thing! The bulb, housing, reflector and lens, NOT just the bulb. :twak: And I'm assuming these will be driving lights, because in fog, they will blind you and everyone else on the road. :crying:

[pteam]

Don't do it!!! If you want HID's in the DRL holes, replace the whole thing! The bulb, housing, reflector and lens, NOT just the bulb. :twak: And I'm assuming these will be driving lights, because in fog, they will blind you and everyone else on the road. :crying:


First I have my HID headlights adjusted so the driver side is lower and have not been flashed once by oncoming traffic. I have them adjusted so it wont hit traffic in the face.

Second, the HID DRL lights would hit even lower on the ground so they certainly wont blind anybody on the road.

[DRTYFN]

you have said, DRL and Fogs in the same paragraph, You do mean into the Day time running light holders, correct?


No sh*t.

If you're thinking of actually replacing the DRL's with HID's then you'll need to remove the plastic valence and cut out the back side of the DRL light buckets. You'll then need to drill holes through the top of the bumper so the HID's can be properly secured.
I'd recommend going with these PIAAs.
PIAA 600HID (http://www.piaa.com/Lamps/Lamp-pages/600hid.html)

[DRTYFN]

First I have my HID headlights adjusted so the driver side is lower and have not been flashed once by oncoming traffic. I have them adjusted so it wont hit traffic in the face.

Second, the HID DRL lights would hit even lower on the ground so they certainly wont blind anybody on the road.
Not necessarily. The HID's you're thinking of using do NOT have the cut-off angle that the headlights do. So unless you aim them at a 45 degree angle to the ground I wouldn't recommend turning them on with on-coming traffic ahead of you.

[pteam]

No sh*t.

If you're thinking of actually replacing the DRL's with HID's then you'll need to remove the plastic valence and cut out the back side of the DRL light buckets. You'll then need to drill holes through the top of the bumper so the HID's can be properly secured.
I'd recommend going with these PIAAs.
PIAA 600HID (http://www.piaa.com/Lamps/Lamp-pages/600hid.html)

I just don't think spending $1200 for those lights is worth the money when you can buy HID lights for $100 on ebay and with experience comparing them to other OEM HID lights theyre just as good. Those lights are WAY overpriced.

[pteam]

OK I just bought these (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-HID-WHITE-24-LED-PARKING-LIGHT-BULBS-3157-3156_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33713QQihZ018QQite mZ280156586879QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW#ebayphotohos ting) for $20 to test them out. I want them to be similar in color to my HIDs:
http://www.firstclasslimos.net/hid.jpg

I will let you guys know how they work out and take some pictures. If I don't like em that much I'll throw em on one of my limos and get something else. I think they should be real nice.

"Velocity LED Super Refractor bulbs have 18 forward firing LEDs and 6 radial firing on the bottom layer, this fills out the lens much better than standard forward firing LED bulbs. Color is simular to white/blue HID lighting found on many high-end cars. Will also work in all 3156 applications."

[tower]

First I have my HID headlights adjusted so the driver side is lower and have not been flashed once by oncoming traffic. I have them adjusted so it wont hit traffic in the face.

Second, the HID DRL lights would hit even lower on the ground so they certainly wont blind anybody on the road.Don't do it!!! If you want HID's in the DRL holes, replace the whole thing! The bulb, housing, reflector and lens, NOT just the bulb. :twak: And I'm assuming these will be driving lights, because in fog, they will blind you and everyone else on the road. :crying:
First, I made no mention of your headlights whatsoever. Second, If you think HID's won't blind you and everyone else, then you have never used HID's in dense fog and you are fooling yourself. :lame: But you can do that. You're a big boy. Having driven in dense mountain fog often, I just thought I would share my experience. But rental vehicles need to look spiffy. Do whatever you like. Just don't expect to get anywhere in dense fog with HID"S for fog lights!:violin:

[pteam]

First, I made no mention of your headlights whatsoever. Second, If you think HID's won't blind you and everyone else, then you have never used HID's in dense fog and you are fooling yourself. :lame: But you can do that. You're a big boy. Having driven in dense mountain fog often, I just thought I would share my experience. But rental vehicles need to look spiffy. Do whatever you like. Just don't expect to get anywhere in dense fog with HID"S for fog lights!:violin:

Ok I got ya. I bought the LEDs for the DRLs for 20$ cant go wrong we'll see how they are. If I were to get HIDs for the fog lights I would have to have a switch to turn them on and off, but I'm not gonna go that route just yet.

[tower]

Here is what Automotive Lighting Guru Daniel Stern says on the topic:

"Good (and legal) fog lamps produce white or Selective Yellow (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/lights/light_color/light_color.html) light, and use tungsten-halogen bulbs. Xenon or HID (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/HID.html) bulbs are inherently unsuitable for use in fog lamps, and blue (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/bad/bad.html) or other-colored lights are also the wrong choice."

Link (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/lights/fog_lamps/fog_lamps.html)

[tower]

Ok I got ya. I bought the LEDs for the DRLs for 20$ cant go wrong we'll see how they are. If I were to get HIDs for the fog lights I would have to have a switch to turn them on and off, but I'm not gonna go that route just yet.Great. Please post photos and let us know how it all works out.

[KingVinnie]

I think hes going more for looks than fog function. Your right on hid fog lights in fog. It just turns it in to a blue wall. I use hids in my fog lights on my trucks: 1: just looks cool 2: really light up a dark back road at night, like a second set of hi-beams. We have no fog, mountains, or hell even hills here.

[H2 007]

pteam-

I've been looking to do the HID's in the headlights as well. Have any pics of the install and what company / vendor you went with?

I have looked at the projector style units, but don't like them. Not so much the cost, but I don't like the looks of them. It would have been nice if GM / Hummer would have done a factory HID setup. For this kind of money they should have.

I know people have said that it's "not true HID if it's not in a projector" but there are factory HID headlights out there that are not projectors. I just saw a couple on the way to work this morning.

One was in a Lincoln SUV and I don't recall the other one. Also, I think some of the previous Cadillac Escalades had a non-project headlight and used HID's in them.

Anyhow, I'd be interested to see how you did the install, and how the LED DRL's work out.

Thanks. :popcorn:

[pteam]

pteam-

I've been looking to do the HID's in the headlights as well. Have any pics of the install and what company / vendor you went with?

I have looked at the projector style units, but don't like them. Not so much the cost, but I don't like the looks of them. It would have been nice if GM / Hummer would have done a factory HID setup. For this kind of money they should have.

I know people have said that it's "not true HID if it's not in a projector" but there are factory HID headlights out there that are not projectors. I just saw a couple on the way to work this morning.

One was in a Lincoln SUV and I don't recall the other one. Also, I think some of the previous Cadillac Escalades had a non-project headlight and used HID's in them.

Anyhow, I'd be interested to see how you did the install, and how the LED DRL's work out.

Thanks. :popcorn:

Yea I know the aftermarket HID with projectors give you that bug eyed look.

The kit I bought off ebay for $150 are true HID , both sides have ballasts, and they are for both HI and LOW beams heres the link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=130068456384&rd=1

Here are pictures:

http://www.firstclasslimos.net/hid.jpg
http://www.firstclasslimos.net/hid2.jpg

Also I would like to add that because it doesnt have a projector doesnt mean its not HID, all the projector does is concentrate light in a certain area. Without the projectors you actually see more parts of the road and on the sides, for offroading this is way better. The lights are so bright that concentrating them straight ahead makes that area brighter than it needs to be, without the projector the small amount thats not dead on like a projector would be just lights up other parts of the road such as fog lights would or areas to the right and left. Also to adjust the headlights is simple, just use the factory headlight adjustment to move em up or down, can't really do that with projectors. For $1,000 less its surely the better pick. But I would like to add my 2004 Escalade limo with Factory HID from GM does not have projectors! See picture:

http://www.firstclasslimos.net/hid3.jpg

So this is the same setup that I have added to my h2.

Also here is a picture of my lambo and my porsche. The porsche I added aftermarket HID lights to also, different bulb types , but the same brand and bought from the same ebay seller.

http://pteam.net/lights3.jpg

You don't really notice a difference with projector like my lambo has and without like my h2 and porsche have.

Also here is a video that shows the lights, the color is amazing, it shows the high and low beams. Why would you buy a system for $1000 more, its a waste of money IMO.

Video: http://www.firstclasslimos.net/hid.wmv 2.5 mbs takes a few secs to load

[tower]

Here you can see my halogen (amber) foglights and my HID headlights (Link (http://www.somo.com/Hummer-H2-HID-Headlight-System-p/01-1149-hid2.htm)) I got the them all from the manufacturer in a combination purchase/barter.

[H2 007]

Looks nice. What 'K' value did you go with? 4300K or 6000K. I was thinking of going with the 4300K as they are the same as what comes from the factory on HID equipped vehicles.

If you get a moment, could you take some pics of how they are mounted? I'm just wondering where would be best to mount the ballast as the entire hood flips forward.

[KingVinnie]

Looks nice. What 'K' value did you go with? 4300K or 6000K. I was thinking of going with the 4300K as they are the same as what comes from the factory on HID equipped vehicles.

If you get a moment, could you take some pics of how they are mounted? I'm just wondering where would be best to mount the ballast as the entire hood flips forward.

6000K are the whitest and brightest. Any higher and it gets bluer.
I like 6000K or 8000K

[pteam]

Looks nice. What 'K' value did you go with? 4300K or 6000K. I was thinking of going with the 4300K as they are the same as what comes from the factory on HID equipped vehicles.

If you get a moment, could you take some pics of how they are mounted? I'm just wondering where would be best to mount the ballast as the entire hood flips forward.

The K value of both the h2 lights above and my porsche lights above are 10,000K. Note this is only for the brand that I bought on both with was KLIGHT off ebay
http://pteam.net/lights4.jpg

A different brand could have a totally different color. From experience with this brand on 2 different cars 10,000K is the closests color to factory HIDs in audi,cadillac and lamborghini. The aftermarket 4300 and 6000 from this brand are pretty much white with no blue in them at all, and all upscale factory HIDs have blue or purple in them, my escalade has alot of blue and some purple in them, also see pic of my lambo --> http://pteam.net/lights3.jpg

I'll take pics of the mounted ballasts when I get a chance.

[tower]

Looks nice. What 'K' value did you go with? 4300K or 6000K. I was thinking of going with the 4300K as they are the same as what comes from the factory on HID equipped vehicles.

If you get a moment, could you take some pics of how they are mounted? I'm just wondering where would be best to mount the ballast as the entire hood flips forward.Mine are 7,000 degrees Kelvin. They are blue-white. Just a tinge of blue. I like them a lot. When I can get pix I will post, but my recollection is that there are flat panel areas on the inside of the front of the hood (behind the grill) next to the headlamp housings where they will just fit nicely using 3M tape.

[pteam]

http://www.firstclasslimos.net/hid4.jpg
http://www.firstclasslimos.net/hid5.jpg

The ballasts dont touch at all when the hood is closed and are out of the way of rain.

[pteam]

ok put the LED lights in the DRL spot and also did the mod to have them stay on thanks to Tower on his guide on the 08 mod for this here are the lights.

We bought another pair already on ebay for $5 plus 5$ shipping! Man I have to say theyre pretty amazing for $10. AN upgrade over the stock OEM DRL lights which are a joke. Theres actually 24 lights I believe, 16 facing forward and 8 facing sideways that reflect off the back reflector.

http://www.firstclasslimos.net/led.jpghttp://www.firstclasslimos.net/led2.jpg
http://www.firstclasslimos.net/led3.jpghttp://www.firstclasslimos.net/led4.jpg
http://www.firstclasslimos.net/led5.jpghttp://www.firstclasslimos.net/led6.jpg

[Hucky]

Nice Pete, Thanks for sharing the pics

What was the mod for staying on? you mean on during the night too yes?

Can I get a pic of the Finished job showing the Ballasts final mounting, both.

Thanks Pete
Huck

[pteam]

Nice Pete, Thanks for sharing the pics

What was the mod for staying on? you mean on during the night too yes?

Can I get a pic of the Finished job showing the Ballasts final mounting, both.

Thanks Pete
Huck

Its Jimmy, but your welcome. :)

I posted the pics showing the ballasts above here they are again:

http://www.firstclasslimos.net/hid4.jpg
http://www.firstclasslimos.net/hid5.jpg

the mod instructions are here (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11346&highlight=drl) or here (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30062&highlight=08+drl) if you have an 08 h2.

[tower]

ok put the LED lights in the DRL spot and also did the mod to have them stay on thanks to Tower on his guide on the 08 mod for this here are the lights.

We bought another pair already on ebay for $5 plus 5$ shipping! Man I have to say theyre pretty amazing for $10. AN upgrade over the stock OEM DRL lights which are a joke. Theres actually 24 lights I believe, 16 facing forward and 8 facing sideways that reflect off the back reflector.

http://www.firstclasslimos.net/led.jpghttp://www.firstclasslimos.net/led2.jpg
http://www.firstclasslimos.net/led3.jpghttp://www.firstclasslimos.net/led4.jpg
http://www.firstclasslimos.net/led5.jpghttp://www.firstclasslimos.net/led6.jpgThanks, Pete. I had seen those LED's and wondered how bright they were. Pix look great. Do you find them to be bright enough in the daylight?

[pteam]

Thanks, Pete. I had seen those LED's and wondered how bright they were. Pix look great. Do you find them to be bright enough in the daylight?

My name is Jimmy, but yea. :)

[tower]

My name is Jimmy, but yea. :):lame:Oops! Sorry, Jimmy. I thought I saw someone call you Pete in another post and with your screen name... Anyway, thanks, Jimmy.

[j e f f x o 6 x]

Jimmy, your H2 is looking awesome! Where can I find the write-up to keep my DRL lights on with the headlights on?

[tower]

Jimmy, your H2 is looking awesome! Where can I find the write-up to keep my DRL lights on with the headlights on?
2008 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30062)

Pre-2008 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11346&highlight=DRL+diode)

[j e f f x o 6 x]

Thanks Tower!

[MONSTERMATT]

looks good PETE:iagree:

[Rhyno]

I just got the KLIGHT HID for my headlights (hi and Lo beam) The instructions say that you have to cut the hole bigger at the back of the headlight bucket then glue the bulb in!! Is this right? Let me know if I got the wrong kit.

[ib3]

Hey PTEAM, Are your DRL's now brighter with the led than the stock bulb. I would like to install these bulbs then turn my headlights off in the city. My HID's on a lifted truck kinda reminds me of a Police spot light on the car in front of me at every stoplight! So are they bright enough to drive without the headlights on??:cool:

[Rhyno]

I just got the KLIGHT HID kit and both Ballast's do not work. I got the kit on ebay so we will see how this warrenty works.

[ib3]

check your grounds. Both ballasts?? seems unlikely. I would test voltage going into ballasts. The adapter that plugs into the headlight connector is well "cheap" its easy for the prongs to bend over.:cool: