OIL

[jmsspratlin]

I tried searching the topic, but came up with not exactly what I was looking for. Anyway, what type oil are most of you guys using and does anyone have the product # for the H2 filter? Thanks....Jamie

[jmsspratlin]

guess no one changes their own oil eh?:confused:

[OffRoadin]

Mobile 1 synthetic oil. Filter number I can't remember. I bought a Fram one don't know if they are any good (this will be my first do it myself oil change on the H2). On all my old cars and motorcycles I used K&N oil filters when available.

[TheBoyNextDoor]

Royal Purple and K&N filter..............

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Royal Purple for anything that thay make that will work someplace in your rig even their water wetter.

It has been a little while for me to change everything because Dragon and the shop does that. We run GM synthetic in transfer case I think, maybe that is it. A good quality oil filter with check valve so it holds oil so dry start is not so bad. You can go to an electric oil pump so you can start it with key partial turn on and lube engine or use a toggle switch like Nascar does.

I'm looking at electric water pumps and oil pumps etc. to gain all HP and torque I can get. I'm researching trying to find any of these that feel they can be run in everyday use. So far the word is temp cycle use only like down the drag strip that kind of situation. I have not gotten far so if anyone can offer TAZ some help there I would be grateful. I have not hit Dragon with this but, his sales manager is looking while the 2 are at SEMA next week.

We drove out when I went in 2005 but, noooooo Dragon is flying out today and flying back next Saturday. We have to sit down and have a talk about this situation. I must confess it was a fun drive in 2005 as it was planned that way because we had plans to take my H2 on a trailer and had the first custom dash structure fail. It is not easy removing everything to add a 12" touchscreen in the center dash. When we first got it in 2005 a 10" in a H2 was the largest and we beat that even with some failures. What is that old saying, you have to break some eggs to make an omlete, well something corney like that. It has gotten easier to make the dash piece each time. I say each time as I come up with another idea to add this or change this and I have to give Dragon credit he just patientally let's DADYLUV make changes. He is a skilled and great young man. If you can get your ride to him whatever it is you are in excellent hands.

TAZ

[Cesardajr]

Mobil 1 Synthetic Oil & K&N Filter or Mobil Oil Filter
I am thinking of going to Royal Purple Oil...;)

[porschett]

Royal Purple for anything that thay make that will work someplace in your rig even their water wetter.

It has been a little while for me to change everything because Dragon and the shop does that. We run GM synthetic in transfer case I think, maybe that is it. A good quality oil filter with check valve so it holds oil so dry start is not so bad. You can go to an electric oil pump so you can start it with key partial turn on and lube engine or use a toggle switch like Nascar does.

I'm looking at electric water pumps and oil pumps etc. to gain all HP and torque I can get. I'm researching trying to find any of these that feel they can be run in everyday use. So far the word is temp cycle use only like down the drag strip that kind of situation. I have not gotten far so if anyone can offer TAZ some help there I would be grateful. I have not hit Dragon with this but, his sales manager is looking while the 2 are at SEMA next week.

We drove out when I went in 2005 but, noooooo Dragon is flying out today and flying back next Saturday. We have to sit down and have a talk about this situation. I must confess it was a fun drive in 2005 as it was planned that way because we had plans to take my H2 on a trailer and had the first custom dash structure fail. It is not easy removing everything to add a 12" touchscreen in the center dash. When we first got it in 2005 a 10" in a H2 was the largest and we beat that even with some failures. What is that old saying, you have to break some eggs to make an omlete, well something corney like that. It has gotten easier to make the dash piece each time. I say each time as I come up with another idea to add this or change this and I have to give Dragon credit he just patientally let's DADYLUV make changes. He is a skilled and great young man. If you can get your ride to him whatever it is you are in excellent hands.

TAZ

Is this the type of pump you're looking for? It was originally designed for airplanes, but with a little work, I'm using them as pre-oilers/pumps on the boat. The other nice feature of this setup is there's a quick connect inline between the pump and the remote filters. A simple disconnect, hook up a 2' piece of hose, turn on the pump and drain the oil!

[H2-USA]

Might this be the item that you are searching for?
K&N HP-1007

[tower]

I'm sure the purple king must be better, I just use plain old castrol, but I make sure to change every 3K mi or less.

[blackhawk29]

I tried searching the topic, but came up with not exactly what I was looking for. Anyway, what type oil are most of you guys using and does anyone have the product # for the H2 filter? Thanks....Jamie

oil x change place $22.95 every 5 to 7k i think changing oil is a waste of time and money. i had a 94' suburban go to 210k and i only had the oil changed at 8 to 10k intervals. my o5' h2 got the same oil change regiment and again no issues. both ran strong till the day i sold it. i can't figure out why guys use the expensive stuff, to save the engine for the next guy?

[Mr D]

Mobil 1 10-30 in the summer, changed every 2K miles.

Mobil 1 5-30 in the winter, changed every 1500 miles.

Baldwin Filters.

My ride is driven in Alaska where even in the summer the engine runs cool, cold engines produce more acids and contaminates to break down oils. Also moisture builds up faster and cold starting oil with even small amounts of moisture can cause oil starvation in critical areas, better to be safe than sorry, I just stockpile the Mobil 1 when its on sale.

[RippSpeed]

I'm a firm believer in Motul !!!

but since I lost my connection for Motul, I'm going to try royal purple and if I cant find that ... I'll end up going to my last and thrid choice Mobile 1 pure synthetic oil... But when it comes to filteration I used the factory oil filter... Filteration doesnt really matter just as long you change your oil every 3000 to 5000 miles...

Plus I need to find that filter test report... On how some of the aftermarket filters actually causes back pressure and actually filters great, but is suffers from flow restrictions...

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

tower,
Castrol would be another choice for me on almost same level with Royal Purple. I ran Castrol in allot of race engines etc. Do not think You are going wrong there. We used 4-wheelers in rice fields spaying levy's and around fields under conditions that if You walked up and saw us You would have thought us insane using a $5,000 plus 4x4 4 wheelers that way. Yet they had become vital to making the operation run well and they were much much much cheaper to run than trucks even if I put good old used trucks under the helpers butts. Plus they did not get stuck unless they were dumb enough to continue to run in the same rut long enough. You get my drift.

Castrol or Kendal 20W50 kept all of them running without concern whether they had outside oil cooling radiator or oil inside motor all the time. I ran a brand of 4wheeler's where the transaxle was part of engine and all ran off the same oil and used same filter.

I would like to say something about an old fella who i knew bought a 1968 Caprice golden color but ran Havoline 30W and never changed oil but, did change filter every 2000 miles without fail and just added oil when it needed it. He lived south of Memphis, TN in Mississippi as i had helped change filter on visits whether it needed it or not. I made the mistake of wanting to change oil completely on one of my first meetings and got a chewing out by old fella. To my friends surprise when his great grandfather died at 101 years old in early 90's it seems as memory is rough on somethings but, very few things. He still had the 68 Chevy he bought new with a 350ci bare bones and milage wrote on the filter of last oil change. I wish I had bought that car when sold. I was younger being only 51 now and did not have the extra money but, it was show room perfect worth who knows what plus I had good memories visiting and eating all home canned food out of the garden.

Well here I go starting to thinking about to much. I just enjoy sharing my experiences in life as well as the unique things of others lives when i come across something to trigger the thoughts. I'm the oldest only of 2 grandson's left in grandkids of 11 so they all rely on me to remember to tell the old family history passed down from the grandpa that raised me. I tell some if you are so interested why did grandpa not see you but, once a year or every other year. I'm not anrgy and trying to write somethings down. I do not feel bad about letting some wisdom and stories die with me someday. I had a Mom who worked hard to feed a boy and 3 sisters until I got old enough to ride a motorcycle then went to school, had football practice, and then went to work at Steve's Star Texaco every night after practice then closed up went home to sleep got up to start it all over again from sometime in 7th grade till marriage. I wonder sometime what i may have missed as teen in the 70's well starting in 60's but, does not bother me as i got to spend every minute I could with grandpa. I guess I'm saying this so that it will help someone especially a kid surfing the net and maybe coming across some of what i write about as H2Finally and tower mentioned to me recently. I want anyone to know or who have been through this that it is called life so drop the hurt feelings lower the walls and LIVE. You need to learn to be content in whatever position in life You find Yourself in as others have been there and can give advice. Try out GodTube.com and see if answers can be found there or contact me TAZ.

OK now returning to the regularly scheduled topic of this thread I would like to say that you never know how well a ride is built but, do what you feel is best which includes oil selection main thing just have confidence then relax with your oil choice. You never know if you are running something that was built with quality in mind by that guy or guy's and gal's that day incase they had a bad day going. That is all we car owners can do is hope for the best but, more importantly do what we think is best and just have peace with it, THEN LIVE WITH IT. No matter how much you worry there is nothing you can change sometimes except go along for the ride.

TAZ

[Humdingah]

I think the general consensus is that ANY oil changed regularly performs just fine. Even $1.25/quart dino oil changed every 3,000 miles will work fine...synthetic provides some minor improvements in lubrication (as seen by numerous dyno tests that show an increase when synthetic is added) and more resistance to wear and oil breakdown (hence the 7,500+ mile oil change intervals you see).

As far as filters...I've heard that Fram is junk and there are several write-ups on the web that would support this.

For the record, I use Mobil 1 and AC-Delco filters and change it every 3,000 miles religiously.

[TXSUT]

I tried searching the topic, but came up with not exactly what I was looking for. Anyway, what type oil are most of you guys using and does anyone have the product # for the H2 filter? Thanks....Jamie

The best in the business...Amsoil oil and filters.

[MONSTERMATT]

amsoil 5w30 full synthetic with amsoil filter or k&n every 3k:raar:

[Adam in CO]

This is a damn informative thread.

[IRA51]

MOBILE 1 and a MOBIL1 OR AC DELCO OIL FILTER.

[dkhummerh2]

Royal Purple and K&N filter..............
I have heard great things about Royal Purple. Is the cost that much higher. I didn't find it at my local parts store.
dk

[jmsspratlin]

Thanks everyone....J

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Royal Purple should be found at NAPA.

I use RP because of protection and HP gains along with torque gain. I do not extend my oil change because of the increased use pressure put on the oiling with supercharger etc. and hot temps up a little. Once i get temps down some I will stretch changes some and in winter because of the colder temps it allows stretching the oil change as any oil could except in extreme cold temp climate.

I run AC Delco filter or WIX filter. If had to chose i would use WIX as i used them on heavy farming equipment and saw how well they performed. I would not even run John Deere filters on the green machines when I could get WIX.

TAZ

[jmsspratlin]

TAZ,
Where do you find the WIX filters? Thanx....Jamie

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Wix is a common find in the south around farming country. I picked them up normally at small auto stores. I think Autozone or one of the other major chains has the brand. Wix makes all the common sizes as well make and put other companies names on for them. I just always made sure it said Wix.

TAZ

[jmsspratlin]

Wix is a common find in the south around farming country. I picked them up normally at small auto stores. I think Autozone or one of the other major chains has the brand. Wix makes all the common sizes as well make and put other companies names on for them. I just always made sure it said Wix.

TAZ


Thanx...BTW, hope you're feeling better....Jamie

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Thanks Jamie,

Doing better and will keep getting better. I have just decided that I'm getting well and that is how it is going to be. Now I just got to walk the talk, so I pray for strength to do so.

TAZ

[jmsspratlin]

Thanks Jamie,

Doing better and will keep getting better. I have just decided that I'm getting well and that is how it is going to be. Now I just got to walk the talk, so I pray for strength to do so.

TAZ



I'll be praying for you on this end as well. God Bless....Jamie

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Jamie,
may get a chance to catch up to You in Florida next year. My sister took an early retirment from NASA but, her husband is from Miami. They still live on or near Merith Island I think is how it is spelled. but, have spent many days messing around on CoaCoa Beach. I appologize for butchering the names. It would not be likely I would drive the H2 as we have some real important shows and most liley my last heavy show season in 2008. I will do local for local sponsor but, will have fulfilled Our obligations to national sponsors. I could have it shipped round trip but, that would take allot of fun out of it. I need to ship it out west to see tower and other Buds in that area. Plan a few mid America meetings with Buds or Gals. I'm not going to change the rig for off-road right away because of many small local sponsors in state. I may pick up a Dodge sponsor where he will furnish a trailer to haul the Challenger I am supposed to get at cost. If that happens he wants me to toe Challenger to state shows promoting his dealership and I will get to compete with H2 since I will use it to tow Challenger. Dealer is at SEMA this weak in meetings that is to help the ones who came to SEMA a head start on getting a car in. AR will get very few because of pop. so they went to try and lock a car down. I'm slowly beginning a car collection.

Anyway I will touch base with all if I get in Your area. It may be my best chance to ge to see many of You.

TAZ

[jmsspratlin]

Jamie,
may get a chance to catch up to You in Florida next year. My sister took an early retirment from NASA but, her husband is from Miami. They still live on or near Merith Island I think is how it is spelled. but, have spent many days messing around on CoaCoa Beach. I appologize for butchering the names. It would not be likely I would drive the H2 as we have some real important shows and most liley my last heavy show season in 2008. I will do local for local sponsor but, will have fulfilled Our obligations to national sponsors. I could have it shipped round trip but, that would take allot of fun out of it. I need to ship it out west to see tower and other Buds in that area. Plan a few mid America meetings with Buds or Gals. I'm not going to change the rig for off-road right away because of many small local sponsors in state. I may pick up a Dodge sponsor where he will furnish a trailer to haul the Challenger I am supposed to get at cost. If that happens he wants me to toe Challenger to state shows promoting his dealership and I will get to compete with H2 since I will use it to tow Challenger. Dealer is at SEMA this weak in meetings that is to help the ones who came to SEMA a head start on getting a car in. AR will get very few because of pop. so they went to try and lock a car down. I'm slowly beginning a car collection.

Anyway I will touch base with all if I get in Your area. It may be my best chance to ge to see many of You.

TAZ


Sounds great, if ever you need a place to crash, you've got one here in Florida. Also, maybe I can arrange for a deep sea fishing trip:beerchug:

[Aich Tew]

Rotela 5w-40 syn, $16 a gallon at wally world.

Purolator Pure 1, $5 at Freddy Meyer


I you feel like spending a few extra $$$ on oil, buy Motul :perfect10s:

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Jamie

I have never been deep sea fishing. It is something I have always dreamed of doing. I may need to look at flying down on a special trip to visit wth You and hang out a little. What would airfare cost round trip on a weekend or if I left on Sunday and flew back on a Tuesday or whatever day the airfare would cost the least.

It is funny a year ago well 1 1/2 year ago I would no have even questioned cost. My illness's has cost me dearly since I had no insurance untl I had been turned down enough until I finally got certified to take out the state mandated health ins. It is costly to say the least but, it is something. Shame is it has a million dollar limit. At this rate I can get there if not a touch from Our Lord.

Ach Tew the Rotela is a good choice of oil. I ran it in my diesel tractors and truck. Back when.

TAZ

[jmsspratlin]

Jamie

I have never been deep sea fishing. It is something I have always dreamed of doing. I may need to look at flying down on a special trip to visit wth You and hang out a little. What would airfare cost round trip on a weekend or if I left on Sunday and flew back on a Tuesday or whatever day the airfare would cost the least.

It is funny a year ago well 1 1/2 year ago I would no have even questioned cost. My illness's has cost me dearly since I had no insurance untl I had been turned down enough until I finally got certified to take out the state mandated health ins. It is costly to say the least but, it is something. Shame is it has a million dollar limit. At this rate I can get there if not a touch from Our Lord.

Ach Tew the Rotela is a good choice of oil. I ran it in my diesel tractors and truck. Back when.

TAZ


Sounds good, also, I thought that Rotella was specifically for diesel engines?

[Aich Tew]

Sounds good, also, I thought that Rotella was specifically for diesel engines?

It is specified for diesel engines, true.

You wonder what's the difference between, diesel grade and automobile grade, huh? :D

What's a gas engine got that a diesel don't? ;)

[Aich Tew]

Ok, you're not going to ask, so I'll just tells ya.


Anti-wear additives such as zinc and phosphorus are limited by lawmakers because they damage catalytic converters on engines with high oil consumpion.

Kinda putting the cart before the horse, if you ask me. Any diesel grade oil, motorcycle oil or any oil marked 'Racing' does not have these limits applied to them.

Diesel grade oils tend to have more detergent additives in them, plus more acid neutralizers such as boron, calcium and magnesium to cope with the demads in such engines.

[jmsspratlin]

Ok, you're not going to ask, so I'll just tells ya.


Anti-wear additives such as zinc and phosphorus are limited by lawmakers because they damage catalytic converters on engines with high oil consumpion.

Kinda putting the cart before the horse, if you ask me. Any diesel grade oil, motorcycle oil or any oil marked 'Racing' does not have these limits applied to them.

Diesel grade oils tend to have more detergent additives in them, plus more acid neutralizers such as boron, calcium and magnesium to cope with the demads in such engines.



So you are saying that the diesel oil would provide a longer life for the engine overall, than say if I ran Mobil 1 the life of the engine?

[RippSpeed]

It is specified

What's a gas engine got that a diesel don't? ;)
Fuel pressures are sooo much higher than gas ... Gasoline engines probably run like 38 to 45psi fuel pressure while diesels run something like 2000psi on up ... I know big industrial CAT diesels run in the low 19,000 to 20,000psi

[Aich Tew]

So you are saying that the diesel oil would provide a longer life for the engine overall, than say if I ran Mobil 1 the life of the engine?


Not necesarily, but it can't hurt, is what I'm trying to say. I haven't seen a good comparative analysis of major oil brands since 2003. However, I had read a tech bulliten published by the Porche Car Club of America which cast doubt on the ability of modern gasoline engine oils to protect their beloved air-cooled pancake-sixes. A lot of 911 owners run Rotella 15-40 (non-synth) in their vehicles. a 911 holds a little over two gallons and most owners like to change often.

Mobil 1 stacks up good, if you like it, there's no need to switch.