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HUM GOOD
11-13-2007, 02:51 PM
2 yrs old, 89,000 miles and on it's 4th trans.

#1 - 46,000 m - lost 3rd and 4th -out of warranty - rebuild $2500 my cost
#2 - 55,000 m - rad blew mixed fluids blew trans - out of warranty - called Hummer corp - they paid 75% - my cost $2500
#3 - 75,000 m - real bad chatter - warranteed - my cost $0
#4 - 89,000 m - lost 3rd and 4th - warranteed - my cost $0

total cost for rentals - $2000

I called Hummer Corp, thinking maybe there is something wrong here. Computer? I just don't think I could beat thes thing up enough to blow 4 trans' in 90,000 m...it's just not right.
They offered me $2000 towards the purchase of a new GM car....LOL....how nice of them...and to top it off - the certificate expires in 1 year.....LOL....that's a joke....I have 2 years of payments left.

So I am going way of Lemon Law Lawyers...who say they will not be able to apply the lemon law to the rig, because the first incident needs to happen before 18,000 m. But they are confident (98%) they can get me enough to pay off the rig and have a sweet down payment for the next vehicle.

I so do enjoy driving my H2...I really do not want to let it go.
Diesel is my thought. The thing is my stubborn self is pissed at GM and don't think they deserve my business. So I am between #1 converting the H2 to deisel or #2 going with a F350 twin turbo diesel

That's my story as of today. The lawyers will get started once I get my truck back. I will continue to update.

MONSTERMATT
11-13-2007, 05:31 PM
hope u come out on top bro, i can understand the animosity towards gm but hummers are cool:excited: keep us posted

MVR 155
11-13-2007, 06:01 PM
I would be careful about the TT Diesel from Ford.... my good friend is a fleet manager for a big commercial Plowing/Landscape/Developement company and they have had quite a few problems with the new Fords. I would definately do your research first.

tower
11-13-2007, 06:05 PM
Sure sounds like computer to me.

HUM GOOD
11-13-2007, 07:39 PM
MONSTERMATThope u come out on top bro, i can understand the animosity towards gm but hummers are cool:excited: keep us posted

Hummers are cool - maybe I just got a bad one :twak:

MVR 155I would be careful about the TT Diesel from Ford.... my good friend is a fleet manager for a big commercial Plowing/Landscape/Developement company and they have had quite a few problems with the new Fords. I would definately do your research first.

Thanks for the heads up - I will definitely do my research before I make any decision....I thought I did my research with the H2....I still got a bad egg.

towerSure sounds like computer to me.

do you have more for me on that..tell me ....tell me....

dkhummerh2
11-13-2007, 11:03 PM
2 yrs old, 89,000 miles and on it's 4th trans.

#1 - 46,000 m - lost 3rd and 4th -out of warranty - rebuild $2500 my cost
#2 - 55,000 m - rad blew mixed fluids blew trans - out of warranty - called Hummer corp - they paid 75% - my cost $2500
#3 - 75,000 m - real bad chatter - warranteed - my cost $0
#4 - 89,000 m - lost 3rd and 4th - warranteed - my cost $0

total cost for rentals - $2000

I called Hummer Corp, thinking maybe there is something wrong here. Computer? I just don't think I could beat thes thing up enough to blow 4 trans' in 90,000 m...it's just not right.
They offered me $2000 towards the purchase of a new GM car....LOL....how nice of them...and to top it off - the certificate expires in 1 year.....LOL....that's a joke....I have 2 years of payments left.

So I am going way of Lemon Law Lawyers...who say they will not be able to apply the lemon law to the rig, because the first incident needs to happen before 18,000 m. But they are confident (98%) they can get me enough to pay off the rig and have a sweet down payment for the next vehicle.

I so do enjoy driving my H2...I really do not want to let it go.
Diesel is my thought. The thing is my stubborn self is pissed at GM and don't think they deserve my business. So I am between #1 converting the H2 to deisel or #2 going with a F350 twin turbo diesel

That's my story as of today. The lawyers will get started once I get my truck back. I will continue to update.
Are you towing alot? The F350 powerstrokes are pretty solid. The new 08's are reeally nice. If gm doesn't make it right, I would think about going with a powerstroke.

HUM GOOD
11-13-2007, 11:52 PM
Are you towing alot? The F350 powerstrokes are pretty solid. The new 08's are reeally nice. If gm doesn't make it right, I would think about going with a powerstroke.

Yes - I tow quite often...but nothing heavy - just couple of toys with an aluminum trailer.....maybe 2000 lbs on the way home with the mud:D

my brother-in-law has an 05 F350 powerstroke.....just like me, he has 90,000 miles - he's a roofer and tows an 20 foot enclosed packed with roofing materials everyday.....funny - he ain't got no troubles.....I know the H2 isn't a tow vehicle...but it should be able to handle 2000 lbs every now and then.

pteam
11-14-2007, 12:56 AM
Well I currently own 4 hummer h2 limos and have owned an 2 unstretched h2's. Never had to replace a tranny yet. Got a few limos around 100,000 miles , no tranny problems and these limos constantly have 25 people in them and are stretched 2-3x as long as the normal h2, no tranny problems ever.

mikejr
11-14-2007, 01:03 AM
Yes - I tow quite often...but nothing heavy - just couple of toys with an aluminum trailer.....maybe 2000 lbs on the way home with the mud:D

my brother-in-law has an 05 F350 powerstroke.....just like me, he has 90,000 miles - he's a roofer and tows an 20 foot enclosed packed with roofing materials everyday.....funny - he ain't got no troubles.....I know the H2 isn't a tow vehicle...but it should be able to handle 2000 lbs every now and then.

Any engine mods like a supercharger or chip?

pteam
11-14-2007, 01:20 AM
Well I currently own 4 hummer h2 limos and have owned an 2 unstretched h2's. Never had to replace a tranny yet. Got a few limos around 100,000 miles , no tranny problems and these limos constantly have 25 people in them and are stretched 2-3x as long as the normal h2, no tranny problems ever.

BTW 25 people in h2 limo could be 4000 lbs plus the actual weight of the stretched areas, thousands of pounds of steel, + seats, + tvs dvds ACs, electric boards etc, could put it at 10,000 lbs. Thats 10k lbs every time it drives down the road not just once in awhile, yet no trany problems :knock on wood:

HUM GOOD
11-14-2007, 02:25 AM
Any engine mods like a supercharger or chip?

the mods are:

first tranny- no mods

second tranny - intake and exhaust

third and fourth trannies - granitelli MAF and programmer, plus 37" tires

dkhummerh2
11-14-2007, 02:41 AM
Yes - I tow quite often...but nothing heavy - just couple of toys with an aluminum trailer.....maybe 2000 lbs on the way home with the mud:D

my brother-in-law has an 05 F350 powerstroke.....just like me, he has 90,000 miles - he's a roofer and tows an 20 foot enclosed packed with roofing materials everyday.....funny - he ain't got no troubles.....I know the H2 isn't a tow vehicle...but it should be able to handle 2000 lbs every now and then.
wow, i was thinking with those problems you were towing the hell out of it. I think that the rest of the forum would stand up behind their rigs and say that you just got a lemon.

dkhummerh2
11-14-2007, 02:43 AM
Yes - I tow quite often...but nothing heavy - just couple of toys with an aluminum trailer.....maybe 2000 lbs on the way home with the mud:D

my brother-in-law has an 05 F350 powerstroke.....just like me, he has 90,000 miles - he's a roofer and tows an 20 foot enclosed packed with roofing materials everyday.....funny - he ain't got no troubles.....I know the H2 isn't a tow vehicle...but it should be able to handle 2000 lbs every now and then.
my ranger is suppossed to be able to handle 2000 lbs.

tower
11-14-2007, 03:57 AM
Hummers are cool - maybe I just got a bad one :twak:



Thanks for the heads up - I will definitely do my research before I make any decision....I thought I did my research with the H2....I still got a bad egg.



do you have more for me on that..tell me ....tell me....I Had a Tahoe with similar problems. after the 3rd trans, I insisted that they change out the OBD-II. After they did, no more problems.

Boss Hoss
11-14-2007, 04:50 AM
Im pretty sure it was the kumho tires. Try finding a resolution with those nice guys ;).

You may want to test drive the f350. I went a week wanting a lifted crew cab f-250....till i rode in one. Talk about harsh!

HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ
11-14-2007, 04:56 AM
I'm with tower on his thoughts of the situation. I have heard of so few that had ever replaced the first tranny. I feel you just got a lemon and please do not judge the rest of the H2's or GM by this one rig. There are people here who have put their rigs under allot more strain and stress still on original tranny. I have driven GM trucks and cars for 25 years or more with either me, kids, or wife driving something GM. I honestly can say have never had a ride that did not last as long as we wanted it to. My 99 Silverado has almost 190,000 miles and it is not stock from day one. It will out run most average trucks or cars. It uses about 1/2 pint of oil in a 3000 to 4000 mile oil change. I drive it hard just like I did from the day i got it. It has air kit, tuning, and other stuff to make it run great. It run 10W30 Penn and is due a tranny fluyid change as well as rear-end grease. I have not run anything but ordinary fluids and that is because I believe in running what the rig has had in it if it is 30,000 miles or more. Basicaily whatevre it was broken in running and then stayed on that fluids.

I hope it all works out good for you Buddy. I would make it till you can buy new model diesel. although just going ahead and having the diesel conversion done now and drive it for a long time if the rig is setup like you want it.

TAZ

HUM GOOD
11-14-2007, 03:19 PM
Thanks guys for all your input....

Something came to mind....I know some are running programmers, s/c and so on.....is it possible for my programmer to be bad and not know it? is there a way to test it? should I switch programmers, or maybe have the pcm built from scratch for my specific mods?

HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ
11-14-2007, 08:08 PM
I would change programmer or get with Allen Nelson to load program on the PCM set to your specs. I'm yet to hear any complaint. His tunes have shipped to all the world. I know of nothern Europe and all by mail. Allen seems to get it right every time. Much of his success is from him having customer fill out a form so he can see what you use the tune for. Then follow up discussion to fine tune the program. You could as well tell him about your troubles with tranny failure and he may have some knowledge we do not.

TAZ

HUM GOOD
11-14-2007, 10:53 PM
I would change programmer or get with Allen Nelson to load program on the PCM set to your specs. I'm yet to hear any complaint. His tunes have shipped to all the world. I know of nothern Europe and all by mail. Allen seems to get it right every time. Much of his success is from him having customer fill out a form so he can see what you use the tune for. Then follow up discussion to fine tune the program. You could as well tell him about your troubles with tranny failure and he may have some knowledge we do not.

TAZ

This sounds like a rewarding way to go - thanks Taz - do you have a link or email to get to him...pm me if neccessary.

HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ
11-16-2007, 06:09 AM
Hum Good

Just go to Nelsonperformance.com.

He does allot of other things as well. He is a huge pickup truck tuning guy. That is how he got going years back along with making custom exhaust systems. He is San Antonio plus has a truck forum with his site. I go over ever so often as allot of the trucks are running the same motor etc. H2's run. I buy my higher boost pulleys from Allen because i know he will make them right or not make them at all.

TAZ

mikejr
11-18-2007, 03:21 PM
Thanks guys for all your input....

Something came to mind....I know some are running programmers, s/c and so on.....is it possible for my programmer to be bad and not know it? is there a way to test it? should I switch programmers, or maybe have the pcm built from scratch for my specific mods?

I've got a buddy running some sort of a chip or programmer on his Dodge diesel pick up and in the manual it advised him not to run it on certain settings as it would fry the tranny. Is it possible that you have your programmer/chip "cranked up" too much and its blowing them?

I dont know much about the chips or programmers but recalled this warning when reading some of the posts on here.

mikejr
11-18-2007, 03:25 PM
I'm with tower on his thoughts of the situation. I have heard of so few that had ever replaced the first tranny. I feel you just got a lemon and please do not judge the rest of the H2's or GM by this one rig. There are people here who have put their rigs under allot more strain and stress still on original tranny. I have driven GM trucks and cars for 25 years or more with either me, kids, or wife driving something GM. I honestly can say have never had a ride that did not last as long as we wanted it to. My 99 Silverado has almost 190,000 miles and it is not stock from day one. It will out run most average trucks or cars. It uses about 1/2 pint of oil in a 3000 to 4000 mile oil change. I drive it hard just like I did from the day i got it. It has air kit, tuning, and other stuff to make it run great. It run 10W30 Penn and is due a tranny fluyid change as well as rear-end grease. I have not run anything but ordinary fluids and that is because I believe in running what the rig has had in it if it is 30,000 miles or more. Basicaily whatevre it was broken in running and then stayed on that fluids.

I hope it all works out good for you Buddy. I would make it till you can buy new model diesel. although just going ahead and having the diesel conversion done now and drive it for a long time if the rig is setup like you want it.

TAZ

I have to a agree with Taz....been driving GM's for....let me do the math here....43-16=27....ok....27 years....and never once had a tranny issue with any of them. The only thing i've ever done to mod the power train was in my 77 GMC Jimmy and that was just headers and exhaust. All the other vehicles have been bone stock. I've never done the chip or programmer.

HUM GOOD
11-29-2007, 01:28 AM
:giggling: so its been 28 days and I just got back the rig with a brand new trans in it. Hummer corp would not aprove a new trans...dealer ordered parts and after assembly - NO REVERSE. new trans ordered and off to the races.

$2220 rent a car bill - Hummer would not take care of a dime.

look out hummer - here comes the lawyers

mikejr
11-29-2007, 02:17 AM
keep us posted on how you make out...good luck!

HUM GOOD
11-29-2007, 05:12 AM
keep us posted on how you make out...good luck!

I most definitely will...thanks

tyoung1009
12-01-2007, 07:04 AM
I'm new to this site. But my 03 H2 just produced "Pepto bismal" for the SECOND time in two years. The first time @ 80000 miles and now @ 110000.
First time had an authorized GM Goodwrench repair shop replace the trans cooler inside the radiator, flush, and so forth. Then 2500 miles later, tranny starts slipping so I get one from the Hummer dealership w/ 3yr/100000 warranty. Now @ 110000 IT DID IT AGAIN.

ANY SUGGESTIONS? I Love my H2.