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IPStack
06-15-2004, 06:42 PM
Well it happened. I read a post on how many winshields have been changed by all the H2 drivers here and secretly smiled to myself and rejoiced in the fact mine had not broken yet. The wife called me this morning and a rock cracked it. So off to the insurance company I go.

IPStack
06-15-2004, 06:42 PM
Well it happened. I read a post on how many winshields have been changed by all the H2 drivers here and secretly smiled to myself and rejoiced in the fact mine had not broken yet. The wife called me this morning and a rock cracked it. So off to the insurance company I go.

Texas Red
06-15-2004, 07:32 PM
Gee, sorry to hear that. The vertical position certainly makes the H2 more susceptible. I bet the number of people who have had cracks is up to nearly 1%.

Texas Red
06-15-2004, 07:32 PM
Gee, sorry to hear that. The vertical position certainly makes the H2 more susceptible. I bet the number of people who have had cracks is up to nearly 1%.

Kevin B
06-15-2004, 08:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I bet the number of people who have had cracks is up to nearly 1%.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually Jim, it's closer to 100% http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Kevin B
06-15-2004, 08:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I bet the number of people who have had cracks is up to nearly 1%.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually Jim, it's closer to 100% http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

PARAGON
06-15-2004, 08:55 PM
I agree with N2ITNSD, and by the way, I still have my crack http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

PARAGON
06-15-2004, 08:55 PM
I agree with N2ITNSD, and by the way, I still have my crack http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

PARAGON
06-15-2004, 08:57 PM
Also, I think DRTYFN has winshield, he owns a Mac. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

PARAGON
06-15-2004, 08:57 PM
Also, I think DRTYFN has winshield, he owns a Mac. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Circuitguy
06-15-2004, 11:31 PM
Welcome to the club! Im on my third one! BIG-C http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Circuitguy
06-15-2004, 11:31 PM
Welcome to the club! Im on my third one! BIG-C http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HummerTeam
06-15-2004, 11:44 PM
Mine is cracked, and I was the first to crack Detonate's...

HummerTeam
06-15-2004, 11:44 PM
Mine is cracked, and I was the first to crack Detonate's...

TBarrow
06-16-2004, 12:34 AM
I had my 4th installed and chipped 2 days later. Apple Glass in Houston charged me 362.00

TBarrow
06-16-2004, 12:34 AM
I had my 4th installed and chipped 2 days later. Apple Glass in Houston charged me 362.00

pushrod
06-16-2004, 12:19 PM
Alright folks, keep the reports coming. If I have a sufficient number (much more than 1% of this list) I will send GM/Hummer a nastygram and try to get something going. Car companies just hate the prospect of a class action, and it does seem to me that designing a vehicle without taking into account that a pebble may hit the windshield is a design error. Please be specific with your reports. Did it crack and have to be replaced or did it just "star" so that it could be repaired, and how much did the replacement cost?

pushrod
06-16-2004, 12:19 PM
Alright folks, keep the reports coming. If I have a sufficient number (much more than 1% of this list) I will send GM/Hummer a nastygram and try to get something going. Car companies just hate the prospect of a class action, and it does seem to me that designing a vehicle without taking into account that a pebble may hit the windshield is a design error. Please be specific with your reports. Did it crack and have to be replaced or did it just "star" so that it could be repaired, and how much did the replacement cost?

\"Doc\"-sqrd
06-16-2004, 02:26 PM
Hi,

I had an 8" curvilinear crack from passenger A-pillar repaired a couple of months ago.

\"Doc\"-sqrd
06-16-2004, 02:26 PM
Hi,

I had an 8" curvilinear crack from passenger A-pillar repaired a couple of months ago.

Texas Red
06-16-2004, 02:41 PM
Well, you need 17+ individuals reporting windshield replacements to get 1% of this Forum. But I would think this is a fairly good cross section for a poll.

And TBarrow needs to quit driving behind gravel trucks. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Texas Red
06-16-2004, 02:41 PM
Well, you need 17+ individuals reporting windshield replacements to get 1% of this Forum. But I would think this is a fairly good cross section for a poll.

And TBarrow needs to quit driving behind gravel trucks. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

PARAGON
06-16-2004, 04:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by "Doc"-sqrd:
...I had an 8" curvilinear crack... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Curvilinear always seemed to be an oxymoron of a word to me. I mean, linear is supposed to mean a straight line and curvi has to with curves. So curvilinear would be a curved straight line. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

PARAGON
06-16-2004, 04:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by "Doc"-sqrd:
...I had an 8" curvilinear crack... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Curvilinear always seemed to be an oxymoron of a word to me. I mean, linear is supposed to mean a straight line and curvi has to with curves. So curvilinear would be a curved straight line. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Detonate
06-16-2004, 04:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pushrod:
Alright folks, keep the reports coming. If I have a sufficient number (much more than 1% of this list) I will send GM/Hummer a nastygram and try to get something going. Car companies just hate the prospect of a class action, and it does seem to me that designing a vehicle without taking into account that a pebble may hit the windshield is a design error. Please be specific with your reports. Did it crack and have to be replaced or did it just "star" so that it could be repaired, and how much did the replacement cost? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Dude, give me a break. Not everything needs to be solved with a lawyer.

The windshield has made semi vertical so that it would resemble the H1. The H1 has a vertical windshield so that planes flying overhead do not see a reflection of the sun off of the windshield.

I think Hummer did a good job of keeping the look of the H1, while trying to give it as much of a slant as posslbe to help with Aerodynamics, and yes... rocks...

Had they put a normal slant on the windshield, everyone would complain that it doesn't look like a Hummer... Just like the complaints already mentioned about the H3 windshield.

Detonate
06-16-2004, 04:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pushrod:
Alright folks, keep the reports coming. If I have a sufficient number (much more than 1% of this list) I will send GM/Hummer a nastygram and try to get something going. Car companies just hate the prospect of a class action, and it does seem to me that designing a vehicle without taking into account that a pebble may hit the windshield is a design error. Please be specific with your reports. Did it crack and have to be replaced or did it just "star" so that it could be repaired, and how much did the replacement cost? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Dude, give me a break. Not everything needs to be solved with a lawyer.

The windshield has made semi vertical so that it would resemble the H1. The H1 has a vertical windshield so that planes flying overhead do not see a reflection of the sun off of the windshield.

I think Hummer did a good job of keeping the look of the H1, while trying to give it as much of a slant as posslbe to help with Aerodynamics, and yes... rocks...

Had they put a normal slant on the windshield, everyone would complain that it doesn't look like a Hummer... Just like the complaints already mentioned about the H3 windshield.

CLAYDOG
06-16-2004, 05:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Detonate:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pushrod:
Alright folks, keep the reports coming. If I have a sufficient number (much more than 1% of this list) I will send GM/Hummer a nastygram and try to get something going. Car companies just hate the prospect of a class action, and it does seem to me that designing a vehicle without taking into account that a pebble may hit the windshield is a design error. Please be specific with your reports. Did it crack and have to be replaced or did it just "star" so that it could be repaired, and how much did the replacement cost? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Dude, give me a break. Not everything needs to be solved with a lawyer.

The windshield has made semi vertical so that it would resemble the H1. The H1 has a vertical windshield so that planes flying overhead do not see a reflection of the sun off of the windshield.

I think Hummer did a good job of keeping the look of the H1, while trying to give it as much of a slant as posslbe to help with Aerodynamics, and yes... rocks...

Had they put a normal slant on the windshield, everyone would complain that it doesn't look like a Hummer... Just like the complaints already mentioned about the H3 windshield. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bullseye

CLAYDOG
06-16-2004, 05:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Detonate:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pushrod:
Alright folks, keep the reports coming. If I have a sufficient number (much more than 1% of this list) I will send GM/Hummer a nastygram and try to get something going. Car companies just hate the prospect of a class action, and it does seem to me that designing a vehicle without taking into account that a pebble may hit the windshield is a design error. Please be specific with your reports. Did it crack and have to be replaced or did it just "star" so that it could be repaired, and how much did the replacement cost? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Dude, give me a break. Not everything needs to be solved with a lawyer.

The windshield has made semi vertical so that it would resemble the H1. The H1 has a vertical windshield so that planes flying overhead do not see a reflection of the sun off of the windshield.

I think Hummer did a good job of keeping the look of the H1, while trying to give it as much of a slant as posslbe to help with Aerodynamics, and yes... rocks...

Had they put a normal slant on the windshield, everyone would complain that it doesn't look like a Hummer... Just like the complaints already mentioned about the H3 windshield. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bullseye

89vette
06-16-2004, 05:23 PM
Count me in. Mine is cracked but my insurance company fixed it

89vette
06-16-2004, 05:23 PM
Count me in. Mine is cracked but my insurance company fixed it

TouchdownTN
06-16-2004, 05:50 PM
Count me in and keep us all posted here on the forum! I have had 2 windshields and 3 cracks. My current windshield is cracked and has been repaired but does appear to be spreading out. So I know another replacement will have to occur soon. I think what most of us are upset about is that the windshield is not some type of reinforced glass that is able to stand up to the force that rocks and etc. puts on an upright windshield. Just my opinion, but it would make sense to me that if the glass is going to catching more force due to the upright angle then the glass needs to be made stronger to be able to accept the greater force. This seems like it would be logical design to me but I'm no engineer!

TouchdownTN
06-16-2004, 05:50 PM
Count me in and keep us all posted here on the forum! I have had 2 windshields and 3 cracks. My current windshield is cracked and has been repaired but does appear to be spreading out. So I know another replacement will have to occur soon. I think what most of us are upset about is that the windshield is not some type of reinforced glass that is able to stand up to the force that rocks and etc. puts on an upright windshield. Just my opinion, but it would make sense to me that if the glass is going to catching more force due to the upright angle then the glass needs to be made stronger to be able to accept the greater force. This seems like it would be logical design to me but I'm no engineer!

PARAGON
06-16-2004, 05:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Detonate:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pushrod:
Alright folks, keep the reports coming. If I have a sufficient number (much more than 1% of this list) I will send GM/Hummer a nastygram and try to get something going. Car companies just hate the prospect of a class action, and it does seem to me that designing a vehicle without taking into account that a pebble may hit the windshield is a design error. Please be specific with your reports. Did it crack and have to be replaced or did it just "star" so that it could be repaired, and how much did the replacement cost? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Dude, give me a break. Not everything needs to be solved with a lawyer.

The windshield has made semi vertical so that it would resemble the H1. The H1 has a vertical windshield so that planes flying overhead do not see a reflection of the sun off of the windshield.

I think Hummer did a good job of keeping the look of the H1, while trying to give it as much of a slant as posslbe to help with Aerodynamics, and yes... rocks...

Had they put a normal slant on the windshield, everyone would complain that it doesn't look like a Hummer... Just like the complaints already mentioned about the H3 windshield. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Jim,

I think you missed the point. It's not necessarily the design of the windshield I have a problem with but the fact that the glass used in the windshield is extremely low grade. This was a place that GM chose to save some money and it is costing the end user or the end user's insurance company. A windshield with a higher impact resistance for the outside pane would have solved most of the problem. Most of my cracks, stars and bullseyes are the result of very small pebbles. 2 of them happened when no other vehicle was around and I was going about 30 mph and 50 mph. One of those stayed on my hood and was extremely small and should not have chipped the glass.

PARAGON
06-16-2004, 05:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Detonate:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pushrod:
Alright folks, keep the reports coming. If I have a sufficient number (much more than 1% of this list) I will send GM/Hummer a nastygram and try to get something going. Car companies just hate the prospect of a class action, and it does seem to me that designing a vehicle without taking into account that a pebble may hit the windshield is a design error. Please be specific with your reports. Did it crack and have to be replaced or did it just "star" so that it could be repaired, and how much did the replacement cost? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Dude, give me a break. Not everything needs to be solved with a lawyer.

The windshield has made semi vertical so that it would resemble the H1. The H1 has a vertical windshield so that planes flying overhead do not see a reflection of the sun off of the windshield.

I think Hummer did a good job of keeping the look of the H1, while trying to give it as much of a slant as posslbe to help with Aerodynamics, and yes... rocks...

Had they put a normal slant on the windshield, everyone would complain that it doesn't look like a Hummer... Just like the complaints already mentioned about the H3 windshield. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Jim,

I think you missed the point. It's not necessarily the design of the windshield I have a problem with but the fact that the glass used in the windshield is extremely low grade. This was a place that GM chose to save some money and it is costing the end user or the end user's insurance company. A windshield with a higher impact resistance for the outside pane would have solved most of the problem. Most of my cracks, stars and bullseyes are the result of very small pebbles. 2 of them happened when no other vehicle was around and I was going about 30 mph and 50 mph. One of those stayed on my hood and was extremely small and should not have chipped the glass.

pushrod
06-16-2004, 06:35 PM
Exactly, Paragon. The designers and engineers who decided to build the windshield at a more vertical angle than the one on Tahoes and Yukons should have factored into the equation that it would be more succeptible to breaking in ordinary use. The technology exists to build a winshield that won't crack and cause the owner a $400 expense when hit with foreseeable, ordinary road detritus that fails to crack or even "star" the windshields of other vehicles. That's what I am mad about. And as much as I hate lawyers, they do in certain rare instances perform useful functions.

As I stated before, I will merely grumble and give the glass company $400 for another insufficiently designed windshield if only a small percentage of those on this list have had one broken. But if the numbers far exceed what should be experienced in normal use, I am going to make some noise at GM/Hummer. If yours has broken to the point of requiring replacement, post the facts on this list.

pushrod
06-16-2004, 06:35 PM
Exactly, Paragon. The designers and engineers who decided to build the windshield at a more vertical angle than the one on Tahoes and Yukons should have factored into the equation that it would be more succeptible to breaking in ordinary use. The technology exists to build a winshield that won't crack and cause the owner a $400 expense when hit with foreseeable, ordinary road detritus that fails to crack or even "star" the windshields of other vehicles. That's what I am mad about. And as much as I hate lawyers, they do in certain rare instances perform useful functions.

As I stated before, I will merely grumble and give the glass company $400 for another insufficiently designed windshield if only a small percentage of those on this list have had one broken. But if the numbers far exceed what should be experienced in normal use, I am going to make some noise at GM/Hummer. If yours has broken to the point of requiring replacement, post the facts on this list.

Jordy
06-20-2004, 10:35 PM
JUST SAY NO TO CRACK

Jordy
06-20-2004, 10:35 PM
JUST SAY NO TO CRACK

\"Doc\"-sqrd
06-22-2004, 11:55 AM
Hi Paragon,

Just read your reply...so true! I "threw-in" some Radiology jargon, translated as: "curved line". Maybe I should have said "arcuate", but then again maybe the jargon was more understandable! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

\"Doc\"-sqrd
06-22-2004, 11:55 AM
Hi Paragon,

Just read your reply...so true! I "threw-in" some Radiology jargon, translated as: "curved line". Maybe I should have said "arcuate", but then again maybe the jargon was more understandable! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

raineran
03-06-2006, 09:34 AM
I saw the earlier post about "curvilinear" cracks. My 2005 H2 has them on both ends of the windshield..exactly the same spots..I don't see how GM can deny this is a defect !!! Now just the other day, I got a rock impact away from the cracks..we'll see what happens when I go for the dealer to replace it !!! I love this forum..you can learn a lot from everybody out there !!!

dna
03-06-2006, 02:04 PM
Add me to the list of cracked windsheilds.

Funny thing is that mine cracked the first day I bought it as I was driving it home for the first time. A rock was thrown from a tire in fronmt of me and wham - created an instant spider web which grew to cover almost the entire windshield in only a few weeks. I just replaced it about 3 weeks ago. Hopefully this one will make it past the 1 month timeframe before it cracks.

DDWH
03-06-2006, 03:02 PM
<span class="ev_code_WHITE">chip chip chip!</span>

Augnmike
03-06-2006, 03:43 PM
The first one cracked badly and was replaced. The current one had a quarter sized hole in the windshield and is beginning to spider out from there. I paid $700 for the first one and am reluctant to do that again, maybe prices of windshields are higher in Southern California. If any So CAl folks know of a less expensive alternative please let me know.

KenP
03-06-2006, 04:28 PM
Virginia + Good Insurance = Free Repair or $100 replacement. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

PARAGON
03-06-2006, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by KenP the Messiah:
Virginia + Good Insurance = Free Repair or $100 replacement. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif My replacement can take a freekin' beating too. No little crackies yet.

Efrain
03-07-2006, 02:18 AM
Mine has an 8 inch crack, I should have fixed it when it was still a star. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif Plus another star that I need to fix quick before it becomes a crack. I was lucky enough to have had it crack free for a little over a year. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

CO Hummer
03-07-2006, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by Efrain:
Mine has an 8 inch crack

Paragon has 4 inches of crack of above his pant line.

KenP
03-07-2006, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by Alec W:
My last crack started as a star and I was lazy too. After some nice freezing ice, it cracked all the way across. I’ll get a new one in early April so It’s nice and clean for Moab http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif It'll get a rock crack on the drive over the pass. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

mwrbunny
06-14-2006, 08:22 PM
I just joined the crack club after owning my H2 for about a month. Luckily my insurance deductible is low at $120. But if this keeps up, they'll probably cancel my A$$.. I insisted on OEM replacement, but don't know if it makes a difference...

Aubs
06-14-2006, 08:51 PM
See, I have felt that the H2 windshield is incredibly strong and not so easily cracked. I've had many impacts, and only this last one which was quite a huge MF (like gumball sized) managed to put a small arc of about an inch into the windshield. It hasn't spread, and it's hard to feel when you run your hand over it. I'll get it repaired soon...

But I still think that the H2 (and H3 windshields for that matter) are pretty strong.

LoLo
06-15-2006, 03:51 AM
Just had mine replaced today... cracked last week, apparently from a chip very low on the windshield. :mad:

Motohead
06-15-2006, 07:14 AM
nOT YET FOR ME... KNOCK ON WOOD.

aLTHOUGH fLORIDA HAS FREE WINSHIELD REPLACEMENT.

Motohead
06-15-2006, 07:14 AM
Why did I just type like I was drunk?!

MDimitri
06-16-2006, 07:29 PM
Man alive, mine cracked and chipped and I have now replaced it 2 times already...Thank goodness that they only cost about $250.00 here in Canada.

I'm thinking next time I will just drive with out one, I kinda like the wind in my hair! :p

Seriously, I'm more concerned about the Tie rods, CV's and Pitman arms breaking so damn easy on these things...windshield is no big deal...class action on the front and rear linkage assembly's. :mad: Bought it for it's toughness not its meakness. If I wanted to repair a vehicle each time I went off-roading I'd a bought a Ford...or a Jeep. :D

usetosellhummer
06-16-2006, 07:55 PM
owner for only two weeks and cracked by rock on freeway. filled in time!

Yetti
06-19-2006, 12:59 AM
I found my first bullseye about January, but it was small and hiding in the road dirt. the begining of may I got hit with a rock so big it blew out glass on the inside of the windshield and it dropped all over the dash...almost made it two years on that one.
ps, I get free glass replacement ;)

Augnmike
06-19-2006, 09:48 PM
On my second windshield now and it is cracked from a rock. About a quarter sized hole. In So Cal I paid $800 for the last one.

ratesguy
06-19-2006, 11:25 PM
I am on my third and just got a chip from a rock going to my sons baseball tournament in Waco. New ones cost me 270$ here in Dallas.:(

ratesguy
06-19-2006, 11:27 PM
What is wrong with the time posted dealy at the top of the post? I posted at 5:25 pm Dallas time and it says 10:25?:confused:

Hummer Guy
06-19-2006, 11:56 PM
Got my first rock and 15inch elbow shaped crack yesterday..

Lean Machine
06-21-2006, 09:29 PM
What is wrong with the time posted dealy at the top of the post? I posted at 5:25 pm Dallas time and it says 10:25?:confused:

Go the your User Control Panel (User CP,) click on Edit Options, Scroll down and change to your time zone