HX Opinions

[RuggedH2]

I have been waiting for this new rig to show itself for a long time.

What does everyone think? In my opinion the damn thing looks great!

I'm loving the coilovers on every corner, the electronic detachable sway bar, and the lockers on both axles from the factory.

If it performs like it looks, this thing is gonna kick ass!

[DRTYFN]

I think I'm 1st in line for one.:jump:

[kma]

You got to remember it's a concept. The H3t was an awsome concept, had winch bumpers ect. The cool stuff doesn't make it to production that much :mad:

If the specs were out and seemed good, I would jump in on that concept as fast as I could sell my current one though.:excited:

I hope American car makers realize that if they suck up some of the extra dough they need to make a quality vehicle they will sell more. I hope to never own a vehicle from Japan, but they have better features for the same price! I know there are nationalist type people that would agree.

But I am seriously excited about the Hx.

[HummerHippy]

I think those pics looked great! I'd get in line to get one :))))

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

I'm excited about the removable tops, doors, etc. It looks great; just hope they offer it in manual trans.

[BKLYNH2]

Yeah I hope the reality comes closer to the concept this time around. I would definitely get one of those. My 2 is getting a bit long in the tooth and the H3 is such a disappointment. I don't really need the size of the 2 that bad and would love a capable and sharp looking off roader. They should at least provide customers the ability to make it like the concept through options. The only way to take sales from jeep will be to out do the jeep. That means as good, if not more offroad capable right out of the dealer's door, and some total kick ass styling exterior and especially interior. :beerchug: :perfect10s: :perfect10s: :perfect10s: :perfect10s: :perfect10s: I will be waiting to sign up for one.

[KenP]

and the H3 is such a disappointment. Oh no you didn't.:giggling:

[BKLYNH2]

Oh no you didn't.:giggling:
I can't help it. I'm no good at lying. :redx:

[Sewie]

I not too sure about the 4-wheel independent, and of course it depends what diffs they put in it :shhh: , but design-wise, I LOVE IT and would probably get one if its anything like the concept. :D

[zero]

I like it a lot and would offer up my 2008 JK Wrangler Sahara Unlimited as a sacrifice!

[Vettster]

You got to remember it's a concept. The H3t was an awsome concept, had winch bumpers ect. The cool stuff doesn't make it to production that much :mad:

I don't know about that. My last 2 personal trucks were introduced as concepts first.
2002 Avalanche: Red, just like the concept truck.
2006 H2 SUT: Orange, just like the concept truck.

I don't remember what if anything special the Avalanche had when it was a concept. I think the shocker on it was the midgate and the body cladding. About the only gadget the H2 SUT didn't have was the night vision camera.

I cant wait to get a close look at the H4. My wife could end up being the happy owner of one. That is of course, if she lets me borrow it once in a while.:p

[RuggedH2]

The overwhelming response so far is that this rig looks outstanding, and I couldn't agree more.

Hummer has made no secret of the fact that they are calling Jeep out.

In spite of all the comparisons between Jeep and the Hummers (H1's, H2's and H3's), the Jeep always used in comparisons between the brands has been the Wrangler, even though the Hummers are really in the Grand Cherokee and the Commanders price range.

This time Hummer is targeting the Wrangler, by far Jeeps most capable rig. Style-wise this battle is over as far as I'm concerned, the Hummer kicks the Jeeps ass. However, styling is not what has sold most of those Jeeps over the years, ability is. I have my fingers crossed and am hoping that Hummer brings the rest of the package as well, strength and articulation are why the Wrangler alone in the Jeep line-up still sports solid axles. If Hummer is going at the Wrangler (and telling everybody about it), this HX (H4) concept better be able to compete. It won't win the fight on looks alone, without a loss of credibility to the Hummer brand (a pro wrestler might look tough, but I would bet money on Fedor Emelianenko).

I think the aftermarket that is so essential to long term success in the 4x4 world, will embrace this rig if Hummer brings ability to the platform.

I sincerely hope they have some kind of (strong-ass) rabbit up their sleeve with that fully independent design, or I'd rather see them stick 2 solid axles under that thing (Dana 60's, they could leave the lockers and reservoir coil-overs too :D ).

Style won't get us up Pritchett Canyon. ;)

Man, I hope Hummer gets this thing right.

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

:iagree: Well put, Rugged!!

[Perspec]

I love it! I have an H2 right now as a business vehicle (hauling photo equip and lights), but I could see adding this as more of a recreational vehicle.

I don't know why, but it reminds me of the Toyota RSC concept vehicle from a few years ago (but less car like).

I'm also hoping the production version stays true to the concept. If you think about it, the H2 was pretty close to the concept vehicle exept for the interior, winch and trim.

[RuggedH2]

Another thing to consider about this new rig. If they build it as strong and capable as we hope, and price it at, or just above the Wranglers (X, Sahara, Rubicon packages)

There will be thousands and thousands of these running around out there.

They will become as common as Jeeps. I'm cool with that, because I'm keeping the H2. :D

[Sewie]

I think the aftermarket that is so essential to long term success in the 4x4 world, will embrace this rig if Hummer brings ability to the platform.

I sincerely hope they have some kind of (strong-ass) rabbit up their sleeve with that fully independent design, or I'd rather see them stick 2 solid axles under that thing (Dana 60's, they could leave the lockers and reservoir coil-overs too :D ).


Dont' hold your breath for solid axles, at least not in the front. I wouldn't be surprised to see a straight axle in the back though. I also doubt we'll see coilovers on the production model. Hopefully they learned their lesson with the H3 and will put in cast iron diffs (at least 8.5"). And keep the front/rear lockers. :D

The other big issue will be aftermarket support. They need to follow what Toyota did with the FJ and let some aftermarket companies get a hold of it prior to release so we'll have products ready to go from the start.

[DRTYFN]

Portals are where it's at.:clapping:

[BACKNBLACK]

Quick Photoshop color change...Wanted to throw a cool green on the HX/ Looks cool I think. Maybe a color they will use. Looks a bit like the Jeep Rescue Green but a bit more rich.

http://www.hummercor.com/IGH/EMAIL/H4-scene%20copy.jpg

[Goonsqd]

Me likey!!!

[Goalkeeper]

Me likey!!!


HELL YEAH!!!

Please build that Biatch!!!

And make it close to the concept!!

-Matt

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Man O Man O Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope they build this rig. It is better than I tried to imagine. It looks like my H2 is just going to stay in the show status for a long while yet. I would love to have this rig to run around in and most likely then be into off-road mode. It would be nice to get completely well by the time it is sold so i could go to MOAB with the gang in one.

tower I still hope to get better so I can at least fly out and ride with You this year or next anyway before the Hx comes out. Be nice to ride and learn things before i drove an Hx out there.

Well GM please build this puppy close as possible and get the show on the road soon to have it on the market. I had read as some mentioned that GM plans to kick the Wrangler hard in the butt so as to take big market away. If GM does it right no short cuts it would make HUMMER owners proud as anything.

I like the green photoshop so I would own a sharp color like that. I'm so use to the custom paint I just like the pop in the paint that would just be another way to out do the Wrangler. Even if it gets scuffed up a little you can buff it out. This rig would be bought to have fun in.

Show me where there line is starting I want one.

TAZ

[RuggedH2]

What are everybody else thoughts about the HX's suspension?

Do you think the H4 will retain the HX's fully independent design?

IMO I won't be surprised to see this rig (H4) come from the factory with a solid rear axle and IFS (cost and ability). I hope they learned lessons from the H3, and overbuild that IFS.

If they do run the full independent, I hope they overbuild that also.

I love the design, but I am worried about the strength of that kind of system for a real world wheeler.

The H1 has proven it's system capable in the real world with it's fully indepedent design, but it sure aint cheap (geared hubs). I don't think Hummer can make any money building something like that at the Wranglers price point.

They really would have to pull a rabbit out of their hat.

[Sewie]

I agree. I think it will be solid rear with independent front. The coilovers will most likely be gone also. Hopefully they keep coils in the back though and don't go back to leafs. :rolleyes:

The HX is a concept. I don't expect to see half that stuff in the production HX/H4. :(

[lance-n]

I believe you are probably right, Sewie.
Here's a concept: build some level of stripped-down production model at the wrangler price point, but allow for interchangeable factory-produced upgrade options so the more serious and affluent off road enthusiast can upgrade with the options they really want, while still retaining a full factory warranty and a 100% hummer vehicle.
I know it would be very expensive for hummer to do this, but they literally could change anything they want for those upgrades because the hardcore hummer enthusiasts would buy them. Also, as previously mentioned, any hummer owner would be proud of that product, so it would have to help the brand recognition.
If the price point is say 25k and the fully loaded absolutely everything like the concept is like say 45k, then the extreme offroad upgrade package (like the concept and maybe even additional options) would have a cost of say 20k.
I don't know what the total number of hummer enthusiasts worldwide is, but my wild guess says it has to be greater than 10,000.
That is 10,000 x $20,000 = $200 million dollars in additional revenue and the net has to be able to cover the additonal r&d and production of the extreme offroad package.
I don't claim to be an expert, and I could be totally off on the numbers, but simple math says this would be a viable option.
Maybe a good source to verify this estimation would be to get the total number of H3's purchased with the adventure package. Anyone know?

What do you think?
:drama:

[RuggedH2]

I heard a rumor (came out after the H2 demise topic) that the H4 program has been suspended (either temporarily or otherwise).

The market conditions are questionable for another generally low mileage vehicle. :confused:

Detroit is looking at building more econo-boxes......:rant:
No personality, no style, no ability.....that kinda thing.

All they have to do is look at the Wrangler sales.....they can't build those fast enough. It's damn near the only Crappler product that is selling.

[wannabeH3]

i ****ing want one so bad!

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

I would buy one ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Finally have a daily driver that I would not have to change much to just hit the mud on weekends or load up to go hunting or fishing. I would not have to some day take my H2 contest show machine of the circuit.

Please do not stop the HX program GM if you have any brains left at all!!!!!

TAZ

[wpage]

Its kind of small. However its unique and follows the Hummer downsizing trend...

[DRTYFN]

I would buy one ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


X2

I'd buy the first one to hit the showroom, modify it and then run out to conquer all of my previous trails. I might even sell the 2 and buy a 3500 Duramax p/u to go with it.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

DRTY I would not sell H2, you no how much I have put in it and what I owe sponsors. Well, Dragon would hang me in the shop in a cage so the guys could just throw stuff at me. They all have had ideas used and feel a little like it is part theirs.

I have a truck for work condition but, WE are dead on about modify HX and then would begin my first true commitment to off-roading.

HX would be just small enough and light enough to haul it all the way to Moab or west coast to east coast. This does not by any means leave out north or south and even Canada if they would even let me in.

TAZ

[Bully13]

I think that if they were to mass produce that exact concept, then it would probably sell for $65k or more. And GM would sell a few but not a lot. I would probably be one of the. :)

Of course it will be scaled back, in order to compete with the wrangler market, but I really hope they keep:

1. All of the removable body parts, such as the doors, roof, hatch back and slant back.

2. The basic overall design and look. There are certainly a lot of "lines" in the concept. Hopefully most of them will stay.

3. Front and rear factory locker option. I doubt every model will have it, but I hope they have an option for it.

I'm sure their is more, but that is it for now. Hopefully they won't weaken it to be able to mass produce it.

[Alan06SUT]

I bet they keep the four wheel independant susp. Geared hubs will be the question mark. Without them, it will be tough to get the clearance, credability, & traction needed to really blow the Rubicon away. With them, the on road characterisitics would be hurt and we all know that like wranglers 90% of buyers wont take them off road and would whine about ride quality.