OK guys ill be getting a H2 next year for now i just have the 3. now should i go with adventure or base? , i plan to keep it at home only for the weekends and yessssss ill be doing some offroad too so what do u recomend ?????
thanks in advance
OK guys ill be getting a H2 next year for now i just have the 3. now should i go with adventure or base? , i plan to keep it at home only for the weekends and yessssss ill be doing some offroad too so what do u recomend ?????
thanks in advance
Fubar
11-17-2005, 05:45 AM
It kind of depends on your tastes and what is important to you.
This may help:
http://www.autobytel.com/content/research/index.cfm/act...owarticle/AID/139369 (http://www.autobytel.com/content/research/index.cfm/action/showarticle/AID/139369)
Base Price (MSRP) $50950
As Tested (MSRP) $55765
Two years ago, the Hummer H1, based on the military Humvee, was joined by the all-new Hummer H2. The H2 is based on GM's heavy-duty pickup trucks, but highly modified for increased off-road capability. Longer and taller than the original H1, the H2 is built at a new plant in Indiana. For 2005, the Hummer H2 SUV is joined by a second model called the SUT or Sport Utility Truck.
The SUT version, as its name implies, is a pickup, not an SUV, characterized by its unique tailgate, short pickup bed, and tailgate-mounted full-size spare tire, which makes it a few inches longer than the SUV overall. The SUT features GM's innovative Midgate, which quickly converts the five-passenger SUV with a small pickup bed to a two-seat pickup with six-foot bed.
The Hummer H2 offers truly impressive off-road capabilities. And unlike the H1, it provides occupants with a luxurious interior that's comfortable and convenient. Its size and design makes suitable for everyday use, as long as you have a large gasoline budget.
Model Lineup
As mentioned, Hummer H2 is now available is SUV ($50,950) and SUT ($51,995) body styles.
The SUT comes standard with additional features, including a large sunroof and a rear spare tire carrier, the Midgate, a global express-down feature that lowers the midgate glass and all four side windows at once, and medium-wheat leather seats.
The Adventure Series package ($2,780), available for both body styles, includes a plush-riding air suspension, a front brush guard, a chromed tubular taillamp protection set, roof rack crossbars, and rubber floor mats, an AM/FM 6-disc CD changer an onboard air compressor, and a combination first aid/tool kit.
The Luxury Series package for the SUV ($4,240) and SUT ($3,740) adds ebony leather seats, high-level interior trim, an exterior chrome appearance package, 17-inch chrome wheels, chrome tubular assist steps, AM/FM 6-disc CD changer, XM Satellite Radio, carpeted floor mats; the SUV also gets a third-row seat out of the deal.
More than 35 freestanding options are available for 2005, including rubber mudder mats ($149), tubular steps ($425), a hard tonneau cover ($950), a navigation system ($1995), roof-mounted spotlamps ($998), a premium Bose audio system, OnStar with a one-year Safe & Sound service plan. The SUT has an optional locking tonneau cover for the pickup bed and a lockable tool and jack storage box in the side wall of the rear cargo area.
Walkaround
There is no mistaking the Hummer 2 for anything else. The H2 looks a lot like the original Hummer, now called the H1. GM designers took as many functional cues from the big Hummer as they could reasonably get away with on a 122.8-inch wheelbase heavy-duty pickup truck chassis. That includes the fake air intake boxes at the trailing edge of the hood. The chrome seven-slot grille is its signature, along with square corners, roof rack, flat glass, flat panel architecture, huge tires, and grab handles everywhere.
The rear end is subdued compared to the rest of the truck, with a Hummer-stamped rear bumper cover and lots of square corners. The SUT version gets the outside spare as an identifier.
Both the SUV and SUT are four-door models.
You can plug in the optional Warn winch at either end because the H2 comes with hitch receivers and wiring looms on both front and rear. Both receivers accommodate a regular Class-III trailer hitch, providing flexibility for such tasks as pulling a boat out of the water or backing a trailer into a tight spot. Large, military-style retrieval loops are on the back bumper and twin tow loops are on the front.
The SUT has short overhangs for radical approach and departure angles, but not as short at the rear because the spare tire has been moved outside and the spare tire rack also adds length at the rear, slightly compromising its off-road performance on the same wheelbase as the SUV, but offering a great deal more interior room. With the spare tire carrier and spare tire on the back, the SUT version has an additional set of taillamps set in the rear bumper in order to meet federal regulations. Not surprisingly, the outside spare tire carrier is now an option on the SUV version to open up more interior space.
H2 is 81.5 inches wide, 1.5 inches over the legal limit for clearance lights, so it comes with five lights on the roof fore and aft to comply with federal law. Its big, square, chromed mirrors don't make much noise at highway cruising speeds, which we appreciated. They also have heat, reverse-down, and a power fold feature that protects the mirrors off-road and narrows the truck's width for traversing narrow spaces.
Interior Features
The interior is a bold design with lots of metallic flavorings here and there, black-on-white gauges shared with the high-end GM SUVs, and decent seats. Overall, the interior works pretty well. The small vertical side glass makes you want to hunch over, making for an intimate cabin.
The SUV offers little cargo space due to its low roofline and the huge spare tire and wheel bolted into the back seat area. Maximum cargo space is listed as 86.6 cubic feet with all the rear seats folded down, short of some of its competitors, such as the new Range Rover, Ford Expedition, Lincoln Navigator, Mercedes-Benz G500, Toyota Land Cruiser and Lexus LX 470.
The SUT features a folding midgate and folding rear seat that yield a 4x6-foot cargo space offering 52.7 cubic feet of space. The box measures 34.7 inches (2.9 feet) in length with the Midgate up, 72.8 inches (6 feet) with the Midgate folded down. The cargo box isn't very tall (51.4 inches).
Seats are thick, comfortable and supportive and keep you centered when driving off-road at odd angles. The shifter is a bit of design overkill, with a big, round, shiny handle that's meant to bring macho indoors but takes up space doing it.
The newly available touch-screen navigation system maps routes in 2-D or 3-D color maps on a 5.8-inch display. Enter an address and a route map is generated with turn-by-turn instructions and audio guidance in English or French. Drivers can instruct the navigation system to plan a route using the shortest path or major roads.
We were astonished at the high level of speech articulation across the truck from left to right and front to back. It was easy to have a relatively long-distance conversation from the back seat of the Hummer at 75 miles an hour, and there was enough seat adjustment and rear-seat leg room that I could have sat behind myself, which is terrific since I'm almost 6-foot, 4-inches tall. Compared to this, the big Hummer is both short-coupled and loud inside.
It takes a healthy step up to get into the Hummer unless you use one of the two available step-plate options. And there is an unusually high liftover height at the rear floor. You don't get 10 inches of ground clearance without paying for it, and the truck ends up not very friendly to those of moderate stature. But you do get six 12-volt power points, fore (3), aft (2), and in the rear bumper (1). The rear-view mirror self-dims automatically. Glass is all Solar Ray glass, which cuts heat and UV transmission.
Driving Impressions
The single best feature of the Hummer 2 is its powertrain. The 6.0-liter V8 makes 325 horsepower in this chassis and 365 pound-feet of torque, enough to move this 6,400-pound behemoth from 0 to 60 mph in about 10 seconds. Perhaps more important, it can tow 6,500 pounds or carry 2,200 pounds of cargo.
The engine drives through GM's 4L65-E electronically controlled four-speed automatic overdrive transmission, the Borg-Warner 44-84 transfer case with a 40/60 front/rear torque bias, and steep 4.10:1 axle ratios. Fuel economy is not the H2's strong suit. The range is about 350 miles, based on a 32-gallon fuel tank and about 11 miles per gallon under ideal conditions. But power and torque are plentiful, the engine is well muffled and quiet. If you need to take a look under the hood, the H2's hood opens from the rear.
The body-on-frame Hummer 2 uses torsion-bar front suspension and a fully independent five-link rear suspension taken from the latest generation of GM's midsize sport utilities. It uses conventional coil springs and shock absorbers. However, there is an optional air suspension system that can make difficult off-roading somewhat more comfortable; the system self-levels the truck and lowers it 0.7 inches.
Underway, the Hummer 2 feels more nimble than it should given its considerable heft. The relatively quick steering is helped out by one of the smallest turning circles in the segment at 43.5 feet. The tires are the Hummer 2's first form of suspension, and they help provide a plush ride on road, but with a lot of control and stability off road. Its handling isn't what we'd call precise, however.
Brakes on a serious SUV require more than enough power to stop from 70 mph when fully loaded and pulling a trailer. Brakes on a serious SUV also demand the extra good pedal feel and system feel that make challenging off-road conditions easier on the nerves. Even when soaking wet, these brakes performed flawlessly, with lots of pedal feedback. ABS comes standard and allows the driver to maintain steering control in an emergency braking situation.
The Hummer 2 offers amazing capability off road. The H2 will drive straight up a 16-inch vertical wall from a standstill. It'll drive over a 16-inch diameter log. It can wade through 20 inches of water. It'll easily drive up a wet 60-degree hill, at a 40-degree angle if necessary. We've never driven a big production SUV that was this good off-road.
It uses a specialized Borg-Warner transfer case with two-stage traction control. With this system, you get pushbutton range shifting for high and low ranges, with or without rear differential locking, and a drive system that allows any one wheel with traction to propel the truck by using ABS circuitry to stop and start the rotation of the tires. The TC2 special-conditions strategy allows all four tires to spin freely at high rpm, needed on some loose or slick surfaces.
Huge LT315/70R17 BF Goodrich All-Terrain tires were easy to steer on highway and off. As big as they are, with that much contact patch on the road, the tires were surprisingly quiet at highway cruising speeds. There's an optional onboard compressor and hose fittings (that comes with the air suspension) to enable deflating and reinflating tires as road and surface conditions dictate.
Final Word
The Hummer H2 is extremely capable off-road. On the road, it's a behemoth, in terms of size and weight and gets poor fuel economy. It's surprisingly comfortable, reasonable powerful and can perform the heavy-duty hauling and pulling duties of a truck. It's a bargain given its price.
Hummer sales have slowed since its introduction. Adding the SUT pickup to the existing SUV version broadens the appeal for recreationally oriented buyers.
The SUT is not nearly as utilitarian as it looks, with limited pass-through size at the midgate, but if you have to haul small, messy stuff a lot, it may be the version that best suits your needs. We'd rather have the SUV with the spare tire moved to the outside and the extra taillamps that go with it. We think it's a quieter, more useful package overall.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fubar:
The SUT is not nearly as utilitarian as it looks, with limited pass-through size at the midgate, but if you have to haul small, messy stuff a lot, it may be the version that best suits your needs. We'd rather have the SUV with the spare tire moved to the outside and the extra taillamps that go with it. We think it's a quieter, more useful package overall. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
FYI, I have carried 4x8 sheets of sheetrock, plywood, etc back there. They lay flat through the midgate. Its a lot MORE utilitarian than it looks in my opinion.
Bondage
11-17-2005, 01:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hmer:
OK guys ill be getting a H2 next year for now i just have the 3. now should i go with adventure or base? , i plan to keep it at home only for the weekends and yessssss ill be doing some offroad too so what do u recomend ?????
thanks in advance </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I went with the Adventure Package and highly recommend it! The air-ride, brush guard, and 6 CD changer are great to have. If you are going off road, the built in compressor and little bit of rear lift provided by the air-ride system are outstanding. Same thing for towing - keeping the vehicle level while towing a heavy load is a very good thing indeed.
Sean
GeorgeSSSS
11-17-2005, 01:55 PM
I have the 05 H2 Adventure Package. If you get the GPS option (which I have) you lose the 6 CD changer. Also, there are no chrome rear tail light guards (which look pimp to me and I don't want).
I replaced my factory roof rack with a Gobi stealth rack (good decision).
I don't know if the outside tire carrier is part of the Adventure package. THAT is an important thing for you to focus on IMO. Getting the spare tire outside of the cabin makes a huge difference.
I'm 100% satisfied with my Adventure Package and if I had the choice to make again, I would get it. Also, my H2 has been 100% perfect -- -- every switch, every fitting, everything.
You'll have fun no matter which choice you make.
Good luck,
George SSSS
Boss Hoss
11-17-2005, 09:57 PM
I had no idea they had a "base" H2 so i went online and they do. The website makes it look like ONLY the lux package has heated seats...is this true?
GeorgeSSSS
11-17-2005, 10:42 PM
My 05 Adventure Series H2 has two rows of heated seats.
George SSSS
Bondage
11-17-2005, 11:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GeorgeSSSS:
My 05 Adventure Series H2 has two rows of heated seats.
George SSSS </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
My '03 - ditto.
Field Rat
11-18-2005, 12:14 AM
I had an '03 Adventure Pewter SUV H2. Sold It. Now I have a base model '05 SUV that came with 6 disc CD player, Heated Leather Seats and the same all around package as the Adventure except, no cargo rails on top, no brush guard, no side steps, and no rear air ride/compressor. I bought all aftermarket and saved a but load of money. I bought the air compressor from "Trail Duty" and it works better than the compressor on the Adventure. The only advantage the Adventure has over mine is the 2 inch lift with the air ride. That can be significant off road, but I am ok with it. It has not affected me yet.
DRTYFN
11-18-2005, 12:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Field Rat:
That can be significant off road, but I am ok with it. It has not affected me yet. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Don't worry... it will.
Field Rat
11-18-2005, 12:25 AM
Are we talking about the Swedish Air Pump?
DRTYFN
11-18-2005, 12:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Field Rat:
Are we talking about the Swedish Air Pump? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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