Bored? The Funlands video is UP!!!! [Archive]

shipbldr

11-26-2005, 04:00 PM

Here's the hype!!!

<P align=center><FONT size=6></FONT><FONT size=3>If you ever wanted to go off road in a Hummer, this is your ticket!</FONT></P>
<P align=center><FONT color=#0000ff size=7>Brutal H1 Off Roading </FONT><FONT color=#0000ff size=7>at</FONT></P>
<P align=center><FONT color=#0000ff size=7>"THE FUNLANDS"</FONT></P>
<P align=center><FONT color=#0000ff size=7></FONT></P>
<P align=center><U><FONT size=5>Everytime we think the H1's can't get more brutal off road, someone comes along and proves us wrong!!</FONT></U></P>
<P align=center><U><FONT size=5>What is it like to go off road under "no rules" conditions with H1's? It cost us a window, a bumper, and 2 body panels to find out!!! </FONT></U></P>
<P align=center><U><FONT size=3><U>Ride along on this DVD and form your own opinion! This is our most damaging Hummer excursion yet, bar none! </U></FONT></U></P>
<P align=center><FONT size=3>We've got 2 hours and 20 minutes plus of the good stuff waiting for you!</FONT></P>
<P align=center><U><FONT size=3><U>This disk will especially appeal to the hard-core junkie that wants massive amounts of footage!</U></P></FONT></U>

<FONT color=#0000ff>"THE FUNLANDS</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff>"</FONT> is a great and very REAL offroad hummer video, it's not Hollywood fluff! There was no safety net for these guys... 4 H1's, 1 H2, and a Jeep take it on the chin!</P>

<FONT color=#0000ff>"THE FUNLANDS"</FONT> is volume2 of our "ONE PERCENTER" series of videos for the hard core Hummer H1 enthusiast! This a lot offootage... Lots of rock grinding here, and a lot of darn scarey sideways sliding over frozen mud!</P>

<U>If you want to see it ALL... this is your video.</U> We cut down 2 days of footage to make this video...the editing makes ittighter and faster flowing than <FONT color=#0000ff>"STEEL ON STONE"</FONT></P>

About <FONT color=#0000ff>"THE FUNLANDS"...THE FUNLANDS</FONT><FONT color=#000000>are one of the hidden, exclusive, private off road playgroundsyou hear about in whispers and rumors. The kind of place that you only get in to by private invitation. Well, we got an invitation... so we jumped at it! (NO! This DVD will not help you figure out where the Funlands are!! That information has been edited out!!)</FONT></P>

<FONT color=#000000><FONT color=#0000ff>THE FUNLANDS</FONT>are a harecoreH1 playground. Everything there reflects it: the swimming hole ruts, the 5 foot boulders, the 70 degree hill climbs, and the list goes on. To venture in with anything less than an H1 is a little bit nuts. </FONT></P>

<FONT color=#000000><U>Fortunately for you, we are just that crazy!</U> Shipbldr takes his H2, the first H2 to enter T<FONT color=#0000ff>HE FUNLANDS</FONT>, with him on the shoot. And wow, does he pay the price! A lot of ugly things happen, including "big tree meets window..." "tree meets body panel" "bumper moves, tree does not" and more...</FONT></P>

<FONT color=#0000ff>"THE FUNLANDS"... </FONT><FONT color=#000000>includes a lot of winching, recovery, scraping, crawling, sliding, and some downright frightening experiences. Everybody got winched, strapped, or otherwise recovered.</FONT></P>
<P align=center><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=5><U>PLUS we have something highly unusual</U>... </FONT></FONT></P>
<P align=center><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=5>NIGHT FOOTAGE!! </FONT></FONT></P>

Most wheeling is done at places that don't allow night travel... <FONT color=#0000ff>THE FUNLANDS</FONT> has no such restriction!! See what it's like in the pitch black with only your offroad lights to cut through the dark! It's very different, very uncomfortable... in sort of a Blair Witch kind of way.</P>

This video was shot in high-resolution digital video with stereo sound. You hear the mud splatter, the frames groan, see the tire smoke, the rock shatter, the chainsaw roar, and the trees fall!</P>
<P align=center><U>BONUS!! - Cutting room floor section included after the final credits!</U></P>

KenP

11-26-2005, 04:11 PM

Starting to watch it now.

shipbldr

11-26-2005, 04:16 PM

BTW... the video is good.

Hong wouldn't let me touch the camera.

timgco

11-26-2005, 06:57 PM

MUD! ROCKS! TREES! DARK! MORE MUD! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

That looked like a very tough and mentaly draining day!

I think you'd enjoy Moab! It is the complete oposite!

shipbldr

11-26-2005, 07:00 PM

Thank you http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

CslRkH2

11-26-2005, 07:07 PM

I'm about half way through...I want an H1

CslRkH2

11-26-2005, 07:13 PM

Any damage to the hood from you walking on it?

shipbldr

11-26-2005, 07:20 PM

Yeah, I know.

The damn thing has me out pricing H1's too...

This could get expensive....

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shipbldr

11-26-2005, 07:21 PM

Not that I've found yet...

yet... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

CslRkH2

11-26-2005, 08:27 PM

Nice work!

shipbldr

11-27-2005, 02:21 AM

If the server hosting the video is too busy... you can fill a few minutes watching the teaser...

Here's a link to the teaser for the video...

http://www.siegeengine.com/auctions/funlands/funlands_clip.wmv

NJ H2

11-27-2005, 04:13 AM

Great Wheelin Charles!! and the Video is great also!
I just finished watchin it, looks like you guys had a blast!
Sucks about the window but that was worth a window IMO!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

shipbldr

11-27-2005, 01:07 PM

Hello Dan,

You are so right! It was worth the window... George, Lenn, Jason, and Bill were really cool to go wheeling with...

I'm still smiling!

Charles

DennisAJC

11-27-2005, 02:46 PM

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Painful to watch you wheel man. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Sorry to say but H2 representation was not there.

-You seemed like you already quit before you even started.

-You were definitely relying on the H1s to pull you out. Thus your lack of agressivness.

-Tires. And did you air down at all?

-Dipstick white H1 NEVER gaves you enough room out of the ruts leaving you no choice but to get stuck.

-Sackless wheelin.

-Sackless wheelin.

-Sackless wheelin.

-Upgrading to an H1 won't make a difference if you're a sackless driver.

-I guess we were all beginners at one time but this one was beyond you NOT YOUR H2.

VERY.....EXTREMELY painful to watch a bunch of seasoned vets let an inexperienced driver tag along.

I didn't see anything in that video that would have stopped an H2 and a capable driver (One who accepts the reality of carnage 100% which you did not and the H1s did).

Painful to watch. Painful. I'll not be saving this video. Your actions almost seem INTENTIONAL if not sackless.

The video editing was great BTW. The 70s porn music could have used some work.

<span class="ev_code_RED">It's crap like this that make us behave more and more irrational with every trip to Moab.</span>

Don't take it personal buddy. It needed to be said. And don't think of upgading. The H2 can do pretty much the same as the H1.

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CslRkH2

11-27-2005, 02:58 PM

You really don't think the extra ground clearance of the H1 made a difference here? You are putting it all on the driver? I thought that the extra clearance of the H1 kept it from getting hung up in the muck. I do agree on the tires, and that shipbldr approached the big mud hole (where he got delayed bigtime) a little slow but not sure it would have made a difference.

These are honest questions, I am definitely a rookie and want to learn from others.

shipbldr

11-27-2005, 03:06 PM

Dennis,

There's a big difference between sackless and reckless.

I don't need to wreck my truck to feel like a man or prove who I am.

Actually I'm pretty proud of the fact that I think my way through things, work along, and am not too proud to accept a tow (or winch out) as I explore the limits of my truck.

I clearly do not accept the possibility of 100% carnage. Never said I did. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

When you have a 250 mile drive home and no trailer... why risk transmission loss.. When you know you can get a tug of you need it?

I not not here to impress you or live up to your standards. I am here to enjoy my truck.

What exactly is it that you have to prove by dumping on me?

You are clearly insecure and trying to prove yourself by crapping on others.

You might have an great truck.
You might be willing to wreck it on the trail.
You might have a lot of experience.

But in the end, your willingness to dump on me and other here at the board proves 1 thing

On the inside you are an INSECURE PUSSY that constantly worries about how he comepares to others.

Go F*** yourself. I am not here to live up to your standards. Neither is anyone else on the board.

This is about having fun, and you are not helping.

You are exactly what most of the newbies on this board need to try to avoid.

Go back to the mall.

shipbldr

11-27-2005, 03:12 PM

Great question!

I could have (and should have) hit the mudhole faster... but still would have hung up.

I looked at it, knew I was going to snag up any which way it went, and decided I would rather get high centered gently. The factory protection is good... but by no means bullet proof.

Dennis is just in a bad mood. (He'll be in a worse mood when he reads my reply...)

Don't let the airbags on the board push you around... Take your time, enjoy your truck on your own terms, and do what you are comfortable with.

I'm having a blast! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DennisAJC

11-27-2005, 03:15 PM

E-BALLS http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

hummog

11-27-2005, 04:20 PM

Charles

You did a great job handling your truck on the various obstacles at the funlands and don't listen to the negative comments that are coming from individuals who have never been to the Funlands. I extend an open invitation to anyone who would like to bring their H2 to the funlands and prove any conceived illusions they may have.
I guarantee you won't perform much better.
Yes, Charles could definitely use a little more clearance and some better aggressive tires, however, again, he performed well and earned the respect of each and every H1 driver that was there.

timgco

11-27-2005, 06:59 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hummog:
Charles
I extend an open invitation to anyone who would like to bring their H2 to the funlands and prove any conceived illusions they may have.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not that I would ask where exactly this is on the open forum, but what city, state is this near? What about invites for the H3 owners?

Charles,
I really do think some MT's could have helped and airing down the tires and front locker. by looking at the video, it didn't look as hard as I'm sure it was. I'm sure it was like slime out there and that always makes the trails way harder... esp. with H1 ruts. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

BTW- WTH was on the roof of you GOBI rack, or maybe a better questions would have been- what wasn't?

You had a comment about the factory UC protection not being bullet proof. You are so dead on with that statement. If you are going to keep wheeling you may want to go with the Rubber duck UC protection and HD tie rod kit. With all that wheel spinning, you are going to break tie rods soon enough. Trail Duty (Phil D) can get you all that stuff too. I saw that a couple of the H1's were running Rubber Duck protection for the rock rails. That IS bulletproof.
Good luck with your repairs and cleaning that beast back up.
Tim.

shipbldr

11-27-2005, 07:49 PM

Hey Tim,

I'll tell you that the Funlands are in western PA... beyond that, its up to George to show you the secret handshake.... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Some mud tires will certainly help, and so dis airing down... and of course front locker... and lift.. etc... All good things come in due time http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The Gobi rack is sporting two pelican cases, a 60" hi-lift jack, an on board air system and tank, tire, and some other doodads... It great! I love it because now I have room inside the truck again.

I carry a spare tire rod as of last Tuesday when it arrived ... and the rubber duck is coming, probably in January... just so much going on right now... 1000's of little things.

I'm sure you know how it goes.

BTW... I really like the H3 racks you guys made... you got the dimensions spot on for curb appeal. Very nice!

shipbldr

11-27-2005, 09:23 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Not once has he posted anything positive on anyone else's video or photo threads. Maybe I am wrong, but I looked through his post history and it seems to be all about him.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Really? Did someone delete all my comments about Ken's new truck?
Did someone delete my comments about H2-Copilots foyer?
Someone delete my detailed posts in answer to tech questions?

Why do you get off of stirring up trouble?

Nothing else to give? Parasite?

I only have 300 or so posts... If I was an attenion whore... I figure I would have at least 6000 non-sensical posts that had non-hummer crap in them...

Oh my... look at Alex's last 6000 posts....

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shipbldr

11-27-2005, 09:47 PM

The boring comment I can handle http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

And if you don't want to watch... I can handle that too http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I daggers in the ass stuff that bothers me.

BTW I am sorry I got you name wrong... and I'm glad we've found a level we can coomunicate on http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Rock on!

DennisAJC

11-27-2005, 11:38 PM

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hummog:
Charles

You did a great job handling your truck on the various obstacles at the funlands and don't listen to the negative comments that are coming from individuals who have never been to the Funlands<span class="ev_code_RED">.Not negative. FACT. The video was usless. What the fawk did it show other than Mr Moron getting stuck???</span>

I extend an open invitation to anyone who would like to bring their H2 to the funlands and prove any conceived illusions they may have. <span class="ev_code_RED">Concieved illusions? Buddy, Charles is not the H2 end all. Just a very stupid representation of the vehicle. A joke. </span>

I guarantee you won't perform much better. <span class="ev_code_RED">I guarenteed most of us could (And put some of you to shame) and mabye not even need to do any wreckless tree falling.</span> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Yes, Charles could definitely use a little more clearance and some better aggressive tires <span class="ev_code_RED">DUH And mabye a set of functioning nuts</span>

, however, again, he performed well <span class="ev_code_RED">Are you a fawking idiot?</span>

and earned the respect of each and every H1 driver that was there. <span class="ev_code_RED">He must give good head. All I saw was 100% ZERO ability. If you guys respect that, then I know it was a setup.</span>
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Again, PAINFUL to watch. Did nothing to represent the H2 Community. That's what happens, some get big heads when they get behind the wheel of these rigs and expect it to compensate for their zero abilities. It happens. Funny when they realize there's no built in auto-pilot and <span class="ev_code_RED">BLAME OTHER FACTORS and not the obvious.</span> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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hummog

11-27-2005, 11:46 PM

So when you coming to the Funlands Mr. Bigmouth!

Come on out and show us how it's done!

Put up or shut-up.

DennisAJC

11-28-2005, 12:31 AM

LMAO!!!!

Mabye we can meet somewhere in teh middle? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Utah looks good. H2 Dominated Country. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

DRTYFN

11-28-2005, 12:42 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hummog:
So when you coming to the Funlands Mr. Bigmouth!

Come on out and show us how it's done!

Put up or shut-up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

RAARRR!!!111
IBENRAGED

11-28-2005, 12:42 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shipbldr:
Bored? <span class="ev_code_RED">Yes</span>
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drmiles

11-28-2005, 12:53 AM

Shipbldr, Loved the video. I can sit and watch Hummers all day long.
In mud if you don't get stuck you haven't tried hard enough or gone far enough.

Thanks for posting. Some have nothing better to do than criticize.

shipbldr

11-28-2005, 12:54 AM

Yeah... there's a little excess video in there...

It could use some tightening up.

Thanks for the feedback. I'll go get the ax!!

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Dan Rather

11-28-2005, 01:08 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shipbldr:
Yeah... there's a little excess video in there...

It could use some tightening up.

Thanks for the feedback. I'll go get the ax!!

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Ever hear of a novel editing technique called "cropping"? Holy f*cking Christ, that was a looooong as "movie". And that bitch, Connie Chung, wouldn't even give me the $5 Viet Cong wang rub during it. She fell asleep. Well, so did my shriveled old pecker. Oh well.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Take that axe and sit on it.

FiremanJay

11-28-2005, 02:20 PM

Hey ship i enjoyed the whole video! Had nothing else going on here at the station so they crew on my engine watched it. we all enjoyed it. and sorry about your window. dont mlet the nay sayers get you down
Jay

DennisAJC

11-29-2005, 02:25 PM

Cool video of H1s .

Eventhough instead of finessing the terrain they would cut down the obstacle. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

What do you expect? Everyone to brown nose?

TOTALLY sucked. That is all.

shipbldr

11-29-2005, 08:16 PM

I think the man has a point about the image thing... and cutting down trees. I must will admit it's not something I really thought of too much.

I guess all of us have our own point of view.

Let's be fair to Dennis. He thinks (& I agree he's right) that my H2 probably could have been pushed harder than it was. I choose not to. He probably would have choose otherwise. His call, his wish.

He's got a lot more experience and knowlege than I do in these things apparently. It seems a greater tolerance for damage.

I'm comfortable with that.

We just see the world differently. And that is OK.

I just don't live up to his standards of what a hummer driver should be. I'm comfortable with that too. I'm just having fun on my own terms. I hope he enjoys the same.

You can rest assured that I will not sit in judgement of his driving skills. I just don't feel the need to measure myself against him or anyone else.

Back the tree thing...

I see the whole tree thing from a different angle too.

I guess I got jaded about the whole chainsaws and trees cut down thing.

I must have become "tree insensitive" at work... you see... a couple of twigs at the Funlands aren't the first to die for my Hummer...

Here's picture from "the yard" at "work"

so... let the whining about dead trees roll in!

I think it took about 310 acres of clear cut trees to pay for my Hummer....

And yes... now that you mention it I probably could have winched off of somethings, but no we didn't care to waste the time.

But it is a point taken, and will be in the back of my mind.

My main thought about trees is that they "grow back".

Different world views I guess.

Live well http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

shipbldr

11-29-2005, 11:17 PM

Folks out there are really that nuts about the trails?

Every once in a while we get a person (or an e-mail from a person) who acts like every tree is sacred... and in the case of some old growth areas.. I can agree with them.

Otherwise, generally the reaction we get here is "Thanks for the jobs."

I always hear stories about tree nuts... spikes and that sort of crap. We generally don't have to deal with that part of things. It's interesting to hear from someone who deals with them on the front lines. Seems thay are pretty extreme.

Sounds like you have a heck of a battle on your hands. I wonder if the tree nuts ever take into account that wheeling helps keep the trails open and passable... which is a big help when the next forest fire rips through and you're a hurry to save the 99.99% of the land that's not on the trail. But I degress.

We generally operate with the attitude that the earth was put here to be used and enjoyed. Yes, we do plant behind... but the small tree "junk wood" carnage is stunning if you've never seen it before. Those twigs get mowed down, not driven around.

I can see you point about the nuts trying to using the trees them "to make hay" about destruction. Oh well, preaching to the choir...

Thanks. It helps me understand a lot better where you're coming from.

rockking

11-29-2005, 11:37 PM

Alright.....I can't take much more of this. what seemed like just a friendly posting of a video for pleasure viewing, has become the most ridiculous on-going dialogue imaginable.
Regardless of what those guys did, it's what they chose and doesn't require the blessing or acceptance of anyone......particularly some numb-nuts who honestly believe their H2 is as capable as an H1. Get over it guys....The salesman at the dealer convinced you that you were buying a "real" hummer and you went for it.
I'm sure he told you it had the same capabilities as an H1, however don't you still question why it costs half the price as an H1.
I'm not knocking the H2, however you have to be realistic and stop living in a fantasy world where you think you have one of the worlds most capable off-roading machines.
How about showing us some of you guy's videos depicting some of the "hard-core" trail riding you guys are such experts at.....And I don't mean the same stuff that stock jeeps and samarui's are running.
Get a life and move on.

CslRkH2

11-29-2005, 11:46 PM

[sniffle] Can't we all just get along [sniffle, sniffle] http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

shipbldr

11-29-2005, 11:56 PM

I was at the mall to tonight...

I saw the most massive speed bump!

Fortunatley I had the video camera...

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I agree. I'm ready to move on. I think that Dennis and Alec have some points.

And I have listened.

I don't agree with everything that have to say.

But I certainly agree they have something to say.

rockking

11-30-2005, 12:04 AM

Is the military aware of this fact. Perhaps you should inform them so that they can start utilizing them. Imagine the costs savings you could offer them.

DRTYFN

11-30-2005, 12:11 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
Is the military aware of this fact. Perhaps you should inform them so that they can start utilizing them. Imagine the costs savings you could offer them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Blow it out your ass, noob. Then sit there and shut yer yap.

rockking

11-30-2005, 12:15 AM

...sure you can. and little Susie really did take baby bear's H3 out of the garage!

rockking

11-30-2005, 12:38 AM

I didn't see any difficult trails mentioned there......what about lower and upper helldarado.....everything else is the same trails that all vehicles (jeeps, sami's, bronco's, etc) run.
Hummer Club's opinion of obstacles is in no way the guidance. They're primarily interested in everyone just having a good "family" time together and not necessarily pushing the vehicles to their limits.
I will applaud you for your aggessive wheelin and definitely see you as one who's willing to push their truck. Again, don't be offended because of my opinion between the H1 and the H2. There are vehicles out there that make the H1 look like crap on the trails, however alot of H1 owners won't admit it.

By the way, where's that 1% where the H1 can go and the H2 can't?

DennisAJC

11-30-2005, 12:47 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
By the way, where's that 1% where the H1 can go and the H2 can't? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gay Parades.

I bet rockking sucks a mean cock.

rockking

11-30-2005, 12:47 AM

Don't have any pictures so whether I tell you I have or have seen it happen I'm a liar so we'll just leave it at that.

rockking

11-30-2005, 12:49 AM

hey Dennis.....don't you have some male citizen to mount.......

rockking

11-30-2005, 12:56 AM

Well actually if you were a member of the hummer club you would have access to prior events and would be able to see H1's on both obstacles.

Sorry, no ties, affliations or other known relationships with the funlands nor shipbuilder.

DennisAJC

11-30-2005, 01:15 AM

I heart teh rockking. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

PARAGON

11-30-2005, 01:31 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
Well actually if you were a member of the hummer club you would have access to prior events and would be able to see H1's on both obstacles. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I am and I don't.

Psychobilly

11-30-2005, 05:32 AM

I have to offer some insight to all this. First off we'll look at this tree thing. Anywhere there is a road, trail, house, mall or porno shop where trees can grow...trees have been removed to make it. The Funland is a very young and very private off road park. The trails are all pretty new to wheelin use, some are old logging roads but are still grown in a good bit. If you guys watch the video you will see that the H2 had to remove trees to get through in places too. I personally am not fond of doing so but I just make sure no potential lumber grade trees are ever removed, that is a rule. We dont even scrape the bark off of a potential lumber grade or otherwise healthy tree. You must avoid these trees and if you even get near them you are hooking up a winch cable. The funland is actually more of a private hardcore rock crawling park, the majority of the trails were built for smaller jeep like trail buggy's, so for the hummers to run...H1's or H2's, there had to be some trees removed. I started clearing wider and straighter...easier (go ahead bash me...I can take it) trails for the hummers about a year ago when George (who usually runs his Mog over the rocks there) expressed interest in having some of you guys out for a ride. So some trees died, had the funland stayed open only to jeep like vehicles more trees would be alive but trees are cut for worse reasons every single day if you ask my opinion on the matter. You guys need to come to even terms on that one because h1 or h2 it dont matter, either or is not as friendly to the forest as a smaller-lighter vehicle. The video didnt do a good representation however just because of the tree huggers be damned part of it. We are actually very enviro-conscious at the funland, we only cross the streams at 90* angles, we have dug diversion ditches to prevent run off and errosion, anyone wheeling there has me or someone I or the land owners personally select guiding them to ensure the proper trails, and only the proper trails are run and run in a proper manor, making sure everyone stays on the property, there is no littering or otherwise malicious behavior. That is why the funland is by invite only, we keep it very policed and controled and its environment respected to prevent any problems, even though it is private.

Now for the H1-H2 debate. No stock vehicle does well in the funland. The H2 actually did ok for as big and low as it is, so I thought, performing how I assumed it would. It could of been beat on a little harder yes.... but shipbldr didnt baby it by any means either. He had expert level guides helping with lines and giving pointers, not one of you would of faired any better without taking more damage or moding your hummer. No one vehicle is going to do better everywhere but with funland like terrain the H1 will almost always manhandle the h2 and that is the final word on it. Slap a solid front axle in that h2 and some clearance then its a different story. Ultimatly though the funland is more of a small and highly modified vehicle type terrain, its really not best suited for any hummer so when someone has one in there they take a beatin and the machines are definatly pushed to the limits.

Oh yea, we also do not allow rock stacking or moving rocks under any circumstances at the funland. If you run those trails, you earned it, you didnt pave it. Our trails, even the easiest of them are far more challenging than what that video lets you believe.

This is an idea of what kind of trails make up the core of the funland. We have the hard trails, some of the most challenging stuff you can find anywhere if you guys wanna say an h2 has run a hard one, I'll set up the ride for you.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/333000-333999/333346_538_full.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/BlackListWheelers/Funland%2011-13-05/funland11-13-05011.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/BlackListWheelers/hummog/funlands019.jpg

The trees still seem to be doing fine too...

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/333000-333999/333346_545_full.jpg

DennisAJC

11-30-2005, 06:10 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
I have to offer some insight to all this. First off we'll look at this tree thing. Anywhere there is a trail where trees can grow...trees have been removed to make it. The Funland is a very young and very private off road park. The trails are all pretty new to wheelin use, some are old logging roads but are still grown in a good bit. If you guys watch the video you will see that the H2 had to remove trees to get through in places too. I personally am not fond of doing so but I just make sure no potential lumber grade trees are ever removed, that is a rule <span class="ev_code_RED">So I guess if you're stuck around lumber grade trees, you'll have to abandon your vehicle?</span>.

We dont even scrape the bark off of a potential lumber grade or otherwise healthy tree <span class="ev_code_RED">But you tell them to expect CARNAGE? From what? Your teef?</span> .

You must avoid these trees and if you even get near them you are hooking up a winch cable <span class="ev_code_RED">Uhhhh OK</span> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif .

The funland is actually a private hardcore rock crawling park, the majority of the trails were built for smaller jeep like trail buggy's, so for the hummers to run...H1's or H2's, there had to be some trees removed <span class="ev_code_RED">Uhhhh again OK</span> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif.

I started clearing wider and straighter...easier (go ahead bash me...I can take it) trails for the hummers about a year ago when George (who usually runs his Mog over the rocks there) expressed interest in having some of you guys out for a ride. So some trees died, had the funland stayed open only to jeep like vehicles more trees would be alive but trees are cut for worse reasons every single day if you ask my opinion. You guys need to come to even terms on that one because h1 or h2 it dont matter, either or is not as friendly to the forest as a smaller-lighter vehicle. Were actually protecting the forest there by keeping the land from becoming developed. The video didnt do a good representation however just because of the tree huggers be damned part of it. We are actually very enviro-conscious at the funland, we only cross the streams at 90* angles, we have dug diversion ditches to prevent run off and errosion, anyone wheeling there has me or someone I personally select guiding them to ensure the proper trails, and only the proper trails are run and run in a proper manor, making sure everyone stays on the property, there is no littering or otherwise malicious behavior. That is why the funland is by invite only, we keep it very policed and controled and its environment respected to prevent any problems, even though it is private. <span class="ev_code_RED">I've heard that speech before. Nice.</span>

Now for the H1-H2 debate. No stock vehicle does well in the funland. The H2 actually did ok for as big and low as it is, so I thought, performing how I assumed it would. It could of been beat on a little harder yes.. but shipbldr didnt baby it by any means <span class="ev_code_RED">I guess you didn't watch the video.</span> .

He had expert level guides helping with lines and giving pointers <span class="ev_code_RED">I would be laughing if I wasn't puking.</span> ,

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif not one of you would of faired any better without taking more damage. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif <span class="ev_code_RED">So I'm right in saying George must suck a mean cock for you to thing he's the end all be all for an H2 in Cumland? I'm sure the first time you tasted your cousin's bung hole you thought that was the best it could get for chocolate. But if you tried your brother's, you might change your mind.</span>

With funland like terrain the H1 will almost always manhandle the h2 and that is the final word on it. <span class="ev_code_RED">Thank you Mr.... Who the **** are you again? </span>

Oh yea, we also do not allow rock stacking or moving rocks under any circumstances at the funland. <span class="ev_code_RED">But you can cut down the trees?</span> If you run our trails, you earned it, you didnt pave it. Our trails, even the easiest of them are far more challenging than what that video lets you believe.

This is an idea of what kind of trails make up the core of the funland.

<span class="ev_code_RED">THANK YOU FOR YOUR FULL OF **** EXPLANATION. Now go feed the hens. </span>
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

PARAGON

11-30-2005, 01:53 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
I have to offer some insight to all this. First off we'll look at this tree thing. Anywhere there is a road, trail, house, mall or porno shop where trees can grow...trees have been removed to make it. The Funland is a very young and very private off road park. The trails are all pretty new to wheelin use, some are old logging roads but are still grown in a good bit. If you guys watch the video you will see that the H2 had to remove trees to get through in places too. I personally am not fond of doing so but I just make sure no potential lumber grade trees are ever removed, that is a rule. We dont even scrape the bark off of a potential lumber grade or otherwise healthy tree. You must avoid these trees and if you even get near them you are hooking up a winch cable. The funland is actually more of a private hardcore rock crawling park, the majority of the trails were built for smaller jeep like trail buggy's, so for the hummers to run...H1's or H2's, there had to be some trees removed. I started clearing wider and straighter...easier (go ahead bash me...I can take it) trails for the hummers about a year ago when George (who usually runs his Mog over the rocks there) expressed interest in having some of you guys out for a ride. So some trees died, had the funland stayed open only to jeep like vehicles more trees would be alive but trees are cut for worse reasons every single day if you ask my opinion on the matter. You guys need to come to even terms on that one because h1 or h2 it dont matter, either or is not as friendly to the forest as a smaller-lighter vehicle. The video didnt do a good representation however just because of the tree huggers be damned part of it. We are actually very enviro-conscious at the funland, we only cross the streams at 90* angles, we have dug diversion ditches to prevent run off and errosion, anyone wheeling there has me or someone I or the land owners personally select guiding them to ensure the proper trails, and only the proper trails are run and run in a proper manor, making sure everyone stays on the property, there is no littering or otherwise malicious behavior. That is why the funland is by invite only, we keep it very policed and controled and its environment respected to prevent any problems, even though it is private.

Now for the H1-H2 debate. No stock vehicle does well in the funland. The H2 actually did ok for as big and low as it is, so I thought, performing how I assumed it would. It could of been beat on a little harder yes.... but shipbldr didnt baby it by any means either. He had expert level guides helping with lines and giving pointers, not one of you would of faired any better without taking more damage or moding your hummer. No one vehicle is going to do better everywhere but with funland like terrain the H1 will almost always manhandle the h2 and that is the final word on it. Slap a solid front axle in that h2 and some clearance then its a different story. Ultimatly though the funland is more of a small and highly modified vehicle type terrain, its really not best suited for any hummer so when someone has one in there they take a beatin and the machines are definatly pushed to the limits.

Oh yea, we also do not allow rock stacking or moving rocks under any circumstances at the funland. If you run those trails, you earned it, you didnt pave it. Our trails, even the easiest of them are far more challenging than what that video lets you believe.

This is an idea of what kind of trails make up the core of the funland. We have the hard trails, some of the most challenging stuff you can find anywhere if you guys wanna say an h2 has run a hard one, I'll set up the ride for you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Man, you guys are ghey. I don't care if you run your rock buggy up to the top of a 2000 year old cypress just to break it over, just don't put it on video to share with the world. And certainly don't try to justify by saying you are "blazing" a trail. Private land or not. It's simply not responsible.

It is the stupid ****s in crap built rigs that get off-trail just to prove that they can climb a little ledge or run over a damn tree that is causing public trails across the U.S. to get closed.

As far as your debate on vehicles, it makes about as much sense as windshield wipers on a goat's ass. I could show you pictures of a ****ing lake and tell you to try and get your little buggy across it...... get it. Understand scale. A piece of crap rock buggy is built for one purpose, albeit a fun purpose. We wheel our H2s where they are capable of going and would no more put them on a UROC course as we would try to cross a lake.

Same thing with H1s, except you can go buy a 10 year old beater and beat the crap out of it. Guess what? The oldest H2 is a little over 3 years old and very few people take their 3 year old vehicles out on trails knowing that carnage is going to happen. We try the hardest trails we can where we can make it through without breaking. Only wannabes would expect anything different.

The debate has been that H2s can't keep up with H1s and simply have shown that they can given the same level of comfort in the carnage area. I don't understand why it is such a problem to swallow. AM General worked with GM to come up with a design for the H2 to make it a capable vehicle and GM designed the interior to make it a comfortable vehicle. The H2 is made by AM General at the same location as the H1. It really shouldn't be that big of a stretch.

And lastly, to show how utterly incoherrant you are on the whole issue of vehicle dynamics. You state that the H2 would fair better with a SFA but state that the H1 will manhandle the H2 with it's 4 corner IS and very, very poor articulation. Sorry, but you're not allowed to have your cake and eat it too.

RazM

11-30-2005, 02:50 PM

The H3 kicks all your asses

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Psychobilly

11-30-2005, 03:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Thank you Mr.... Who the **** are you again? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm an expert, I dont need to ask you who you are by the way, you've already told me that your a rookie. What more you need to know? I spelled it all out for you. You few asshats realize your representing all h2 owners when you speak like that on here? Your promoting this hobby in a sour light yourselves. Furthermore on the video, I had no idea it was being made. Had I known i would of asked to see it before it as released at least but no biggie. Fact remains that trees are cut for worse things every day and I myself dont have to cut any more of them to run the trails. Maybe I should heed what you guys say and just keep all the hummers out to save the trees? Hows that sound, sounds like a black eye to me saying that they are not allowd in there because they cause more damage, kill more trees.....and that is what your getting at, right? And why is it alright to clear cut land or timber it with machines that do more damage in one week than wheelers could do in a lifetime? You rookies need to get your bearings straight, were building trails, opening more trails, not closing them...get the picture? I dont like to see any of the trees removed but they get removed, deal with it...

Psychobilly

11-30-2005, 03:19 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The H2 is made by AM General at the same location as the H1. It really shouldn't be that big of a stretch. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its far far less of a stretch to compare it to a 2500 chevy if you want to be specific. It was not my intention to bash the H2's by any means, just adding factual insight into the argument and the fact is the H1 will and does perform better at the funlands. I however have no intentions to argue with the ill equiped who appear to have flocked here, I have nothing to prove or gain from it. Have a good one.

PARAGON

11-30-2005, 03:38 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Thank you Mr.... Who the **** are you again? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm an expert, I dont need to ask you who you are by the way, you've already told me that your a rookie. What more you need to know? I spelled it all out for you. You few asshats realize your representing all h2 owners when you speak like that on here? Your promoting this hobby in a sour light yourselves. Furthermore on the video, I had no idea it was being made. Had I known i would of asked to see it before it as released at least but no biggie. Fact remains that trees are cut for worse things every day and I myself dont have to cut any more of them to run the trails. Maybe I should heed what you guys say and just keep all the hummers out to save the trees? Hows that sound, sounds like a black eye to me saying that they are not allowd in there because they cause more damage, kill more trees.....and that is what your getting at, right? And why is it alright to clear cut land or timber it with machines that do more damage in one week than wheelers could do in a lifetime? You rookies need to get your bearings straight, were building trails, opening more trails, not closing them...get the picture? I dont like to see any of the trees removed but they get removed, deal with it... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>An expert at shortsighted ignorance.... that would be about it. Why in the world would one assume people here are "rookies?" Because we prefer to be able to drive our rig 1000 miles, wheel it, and then be able to drive it back home all in relative luxury and comfort.

Are you too stupid to realize that many of us graduated from riding the trails in broken down pieces of crap because we made a little money and can afford something that can offer both worlds. Naaww, you're an EXPERT, you can't be that damn stupid.

I am betting you don't know crap about wheeling, this funlands place or your ass from a hole in the wall. Speaking of asses, get your head out of it. Comparing tree harvesting to random vandalization shows more of your EXPERT intelligence. Tell you what, ban Hummers from that craphole that no one knows exists. Come back and let us know when you want to join the adults and discuss the real issues that concern people who like to wheel the trails across our country.

PARAGON

11-30-2005, 03:42 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sfox:
Personally I hope to see more private developements opening up around the country, I think this whole thing got a little overblown based on SOME of the content of a video that I can honsetly say I didn't watch all of (I couldn't sit through Titanic either...both were waaaaay to freakin long for my short attention span).

Anyways, just my 2cents... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Honestly, I haven't watched the video...... not a bit. Don't need to because of some of the positions certain individuals have taken in this thread. I am simply responding to the idiotic justifications based on some of the different views on the video.

shipbldr

11-30-2005, 04:07 PM

Alec and I had some great PM exchanges last night.

(Absolutely no sarcasm here)

And I think he raised some good points about the tree thing. My personal feels about it aside, I think Alec has a point that it does nothing for the greater.

I think that some of the guys from out west have some real concerns about the politics of the matter, deal with some real crap helping keep the trails open, and I don't think it's asking too much to show them some support.

About 4 hours ago we did some edits to the video, trimmed out the 90 or so seconds of chainsaw footage from the 2 spots it appears, and started a fresh compile which will start later tonight when I will replace the source on the server.

Please don't anyone get on Alec about this, he did not request it. He has some real concerns about the politics of the matter and I think they are valid. So changes made. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Psychobilly

11-30-2005, 04:16 PM

Thanx for the welcome sfox. The guides and myself really are expert though and other than George the guides were not H1 owners. They are the local crew who wheel the funland bi-weekly, they have thousands of hours of seat time, know the lines and really do know how any given vehicle will react on certain terrain, yes any vehicle, thats what makes myself and them expert. If in any doubt about any vehicle or driver then they side with safety, that also makes them expert. I have only been on the trail with one other H2 prior to shipbldr though, been out with H1's on several occassions. Even with Marines as I organize a toys for tots trail ride with them.

Paragon guy... whats your beef? You get abused as a child and thus PREFER to have an anti-social disorder or just cant help that you do. You really need to examine that, if you cant help it then I condole my apathy to you. Whats up with the name too, I know your not kyle so couldnt you come up something a little more origional or something that may better represent you...say "fluff girl" for exaple?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> We dont even scrape the bark off of a potential lumber grade or otherwise healthy tree But you tell them to expect CARNAGE? From what? Your teef? . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, why do you think only a tree can damage a rig? Are you out bashing your ride off of them all the time or what? When you run harder terrain things break. I've never got a tree dent at the funland myself but I've taken plenty of rock damage, broke a dozen or more axles and so on. You'll better understand when you start to wheel a little bit maybe.

Oh and Dennis, I am above you, I dont even need to communicate with your lowlife type and I wont so save your bad breath bud. I'm sorry that you represent any off-roader or form of recreation but at least you dont represent me or my club or anything I'm personally associated with and I find pleasue in that. Thanx.

DennisAJC

11-30-2005, 04:16 PM

Ya, he PM'ed me saying what whiney pussy you are.

PARAGON

11-30-2005, 04:25 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
Paragon guy... whats your beef? You get abused as a child and thus PREFER to have an anti-social disorder or just cant help that you do. You really need to examine that, if you cant help it then I condole my apathy to you. Whats up with the name too, I know your not kyle so couldnt you come up something a little more origional or something that may better represent you...say "fluff girl" for exaple? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Apparently, you have used your head for a skid plate a little too often. You "condole your apathy"?????????

I am kyle, so what.

Psychobilly

11-30-2005, 04:33 PM

Yep, basically If your issues are beyond your control then I feel sorry for you personally but give you no emotion, no time, make no note of you, your nothing to me, I'll just ignore you, do you need a dictionary or what, what part dont you get there?

rockking

11-30-2005, 04:36 PM

Now we know Paragon's full of it!

Perhaps someone should notify Kyle that he's being represented here.......and moreso, how he's being represented!

Hey Paragon, Kyle doesn't own a Hummer.....But I'm sure if he did.......it wouldn't be an H2.

DennisAJC

11-30-2005, 04:43 PM

psychobilly and rockking,

Is this the best you burger flippers can come up with? Weak.

Must be nice living off the welfare system to play on the computer all day.

Do something productive and clean out your trailers.

Don't come here and wow us with your wit. It didn't work for the Burger King manager, and it sure as hell won't work with this crowd. Now run along.

PARAGON

11-30-2005, 04:46 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
Yep, basically If your issues are beyond your control then I feel sorry for you personally but give you no emotion, no time, make no note of you, your nothing to me, I'll just ignore you, do you need a dictionary or what, what part dont you get there? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You're just stupid aren't you. Having trouble getting past that?

"I feel sorry for you personally but give you no emotion" - Notice the oxymoron? Emphasis on Moron?

You need an education or what?

rockking

11-30-2005, 04:47 PM

Hey Dennis..........go find yourself a moose or whatever you guys do up there for fun!

Who invited you into the country anyway.

PARAGON

11-30-2005, 04:50 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
Now we know Paragon's full of it!

Perhaps someone should notify Kyle that he's being represented here.......and moreso, how he's being represented!

Hey Paragon, Kyle doesn't own a Hummer.....But I'm sure if he did.......it wouldn't be an H2. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Why would you notify me that I am representing me??????? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif I do own a Hummer and it is an H2. It happens to be white.

Are you and billyboy offspring from the same brother and sister?

DennisAJC

11-30-2005, 04:50 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
Who invited you into the country anyway. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

By the good folks who pay for your welfare checks.

rockking

11-30-2005, 04:52 PM

You keep digging those holes in the ice and pulling out those trouts one at a time.......687,436 lbs more and you too will be able to afford an H1.

rockking

11-30-2005, 04:58 PM

Hey Kyle..........Just left a voice mail for ya!

I imagine you're out taking care of some of your trails but I'm sure you'll return the call!

Psychobilly

11-30-2005, 05:04 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

"I feel sorry for you personally but give you no emotion" - Notice the oxymoron? Emphasis on Moron?

You need an education or what? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What dont you understand about it. Your trying to get an emotional responce from me, my personal sympathy for your proplem has resulted in my apathy to you on this here forum.....but I could change that for you if you wanted.

PARAGON

11-30-2005, 05:08 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

"I feel sorry for you personally but give you no emotion" - Notice the oxymoron? Emphasis on Moron?

You need an education or what? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What dont you understand about it. Your trying to get an emotional responce from me, my personal sympathy for your proplem has resulted in my apathy to you on this here forum.....but I could change that for you if you wanted. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>WTF. "Condole your apathy" has turned into MY trying to get an emotional response? Nice try, sport. Get back to driving your Isuzu Rodeo on your little trails.

PARAGON

11-30-2005, 05:10 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
Hey Kyle..........Just left a voice mail for ya!

I imagine you're out taking care of some of your trails but I'm sure you'll return the call! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Are you talking to me. I don't have voice mail. Nice try, chief. I also don't "take care of my trails" either, I have someone to do that for me. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

jaybird

12-01-2005, 05:57 PM

dennisajc and paragon, you guys must have extremely small penises, since you have to substitute your massive SUV's for your manhood! The better part of four wheeling skill is knowing the limits of your machine, and driving within them! Apparently, you think it's okay to beat the piss outta something to make it look like you know what you're doing. I guarantee that the funland would be beyond your skill level.

PARAGON

12-01-2005, 06:16 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jaybird:
dennisajc and paragon, you guys must have extremely small penises, since you have to substitute your massive SUV's for your manhood! The better part of four wheeling skill is knowing the limits of your machine, and driving within them! Apparently, you think it's okay to beat the piss outta something to make it look like you know what you're doing. I guarantee that the funland would be beyond your skill level. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Could you please elaborate.... no actually could you please point out where I even remotely said anything along those lines.

Damn, you boys are about as sharp as a box of chert.

PARAGON

12-01-2005, 06:17 PM

jaybird

12-01-2005, 06:20 PM

and unlike you 2, I have wheeled in the funland, and wheeled a high mobility multipurpose wheeled vehicle in similar terrain local to the funland. If you're such a capable driver, come on out and show me how it's done, if you're as good as you think, there's plenty of events here that I'd like to see an H2 compete in and win.

CO Hummer

12-01-2005, 06:31 PM

PARAGON

12-01-2005, 06:50 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jaybird:
and unlike you 2, I have wheeled in the funland, and wheeled a high mobility multipurpose wheeled vehicle in similar terrain local to the funland. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I'll make the assumption you are wanting here that you were kicked out of the army because of the don't tell part rule. If so, the funlands must be pretty easy going if you are comparing it to what you did while driving a HMMWV in service.

PARAGON

12-01-2005, 07:14 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jaybird:
and unlike you 2, I have wheeled in the funland, and wheeled a high mobility multipurpose wheeled vehicle in similar terrain local to the funland. If you're such a capable driver, come on out and show me how it's done, if you're as good as you think, there's plenty of events here that I'd like to see an H2 compete in and win. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>How did you get to the age of 35 without stepping in front of a truck. Damn.... do you guys practice using your heads as chocks?

Show me some pictures of 2 or 3 year old stock competition vehicles? Fcking moron.

md_sailor

12-01-2005, 08:19 PM

sfox....Too Funny! I swear that clip never gets old!

ckhagman

12-01-2005, 09:29 PM

ckhagman

12-01-2005, 09:32 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
<span class="ev_code_WHITE">.</span>

[QUOTE]Originally posted by hummog:
Charles

Yes, Charles could definitely use a little more clearance and some better aggressive tires <span class="ev_code_RED">DUH And mabye a set of functioning nuts</span>

.<span class="ev_code_WHITE">.</span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Charles is the only H2 that I have seen do VooDoo at Paragon twice. Sure he got stuck but atleast he tried it.

ckhagman

12-01-2005, 09:34 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
LMAO!!!!

Mabye we can meet somewhere in teh middle? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Utah looks good. H2 Dominated Country. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Too totally different terrians. Don't get me wrong we all want to get out west but they are totally different.

ckhagman

12-01-2005, 09:36 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
Cool video of H1s .

Eventhough instead of finessing the terrain they would cut down the obstacle. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

What do you expect? Everyone to brown nose?

TOTALLY sucked. That is all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is how Paragon started. Hell half the park was done buy cutting the trails from scratch.

Psychobilly

12-02-2005, 03:18 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jaybird:
and unlike you 2, I have wheeled in the funland, and wheeled a high mobility multipurpose wheeled vehicle in similar terrain local to the funland. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh great. Another Jeep Liberty weekend warrior has arrived. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I myself own an 05 libby, I agree it was NEVER intended to be on the trail and it will never go there. You see I know that, but I know it will go to work and back and to the mall as it was intended and that is why I have it. I have real trail rigs also, I dont need to beat on a street queen and pretend its something its not. The libby is kinda like an H2 if you want my honest opinion. Theres nothing wrong with an H2 by any means and if someone wants to own and wheel one and respect this hobby and others who do it than good for them, they are my people (and if thats you please dont read any further as I think your A-OK and I have no intentions to offend you) but for you turd burglers who flap the gums, disrespect the hobby and the people doing it (paragon and others)here we go. Sure you own a 4wd and a 4wd can go off-road, did you guys just figure that out or something because the H2 is far from anything more capable than a blazer, tahoe or anything actually. You guys do know it is just a GM 2500 right, same exact thing with suspension parts interchangable and everything? The H2 has not earned respect in the wheelin world, has not earned a reputation and with mouth breathers like you few poluting the h2 gene pool it never will. What the fawk is you guys problem....oh wait, I think I figured it out...and since you pulled out the "your a bum, clean your trailer" I'll go there too...You guys bitching are just your average middle age tools who were over sheltered, under nurtured, never had a real life, an ambition, a hobby or fun even. Now your like lookin back goin wow, I'm half way to dead, the best years are behind me and I hate my life, I need something. So you get this idea right...."I know...I need a hummer, its badass, it will make me a man, women will flock to me, I'll pretend to look successful, it will be great". Now not able to afford a real hummer (or you would own one) and wanting to pretend like you can afford one you go and drop the wad, waste the retirment on a H2 thinkin it will pass as a real hummer right. Now your broke, still hating life, still not getting any ass, still not earning any respect.. and your sitting there with a blinged out 2500 chevy thats going to continue to suck the life out of you. That brings us to now, life still sux and with no other resources you resort to name calling in attempts to degrade others trying to feel better about yourselves, your ****ty ass lives and the POS bleeding you dry in the driveway. You see, I KNOW that the name calling, welfare, burger king comments are all you have left when you resort to them, if you had real knowledge or better yet real respect for your hobby or your vehicle you wouldnt resort to such ****. I've flushed turds down the bowel (I mean droped turds in my outhouse) that were better than you bums....oh and if it makes you feel any more ****ty about your wasted existance I could pay cash for an H2 if I wanted one. Your burker king trailer deal is not going to work on me....hahaa. So You got what you wanted now, your balls are busted, your losing sleep tonight, soon you'll have the steel in your mouth and the note wrote for anyone who will read it, I got you all figured out. HAAHAHA You guys crack me up, thanx for the time fellers, I've trully enjoyed it.

KenP

12-02-2005, 03:25 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jaybird:
and unlike you 2, I have wheeled in the funland, and wheeled a high mobility multipurpose wheeled vehicle in similar terrain local to the funland. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh great. Another Jeep Liberty weekend warrior has arrived. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I myself own an 05 libby, I agree it was NEVER intended to be on the trail and it will never go there. You see I know that, but I know it will go to work and back and to the mall as it was intended and that is why I have it. I have real trail rigs also, I dont need to beat on a street queen and pretend its something its not. The libby is kinda like an H2 if you want my honest opinion. Theres nothing wrong with an H2 by any means and if someone wants to own and wheel one and respect this hobby and others who do it than good for them, they are my people (and if thats you please dont read any further as I think your A-OK and I have no intentions to offend you) but for you turd burglers who flap the gums, disrespect the hobby and the people doing it (paragon and others)here we go. Sure you own a 4wd and a 4wd can go off-road, did you guys just figure that out or something because the H2 is far from anything more capable than a blazer, tahoe or anything actually. You guys do know it is just a GM 2500 right, same exact thing with suspension parts interchangable and everything? The H2 has not earned respect in the wheelin world, has not earned a reputation and with mouth breathers like you few poluting the h2 gene pool it never will. What the fawk is you guys problem....oh wait, I think I figured it out...and since you pulled out the "your a bum, clean your trailer" I'll go there too...You guys bitching are just your average middle age tools who were over sheltered, under nurtured, never had a real life, an ambition, a hobby or fun even. Now your like lookin back goin wow, I'm half way to dead, the best years are behind me and I hate my life, I need something. So you get this idea right...."I know...I need a hummer, its badass, it will make me a man, women will flock to me, I'll pretend to look successful, it will be great". Now not able to afford a real hummer (or you would own one) and wanting to pretend like you can afford one you go and drop the wad, waste the retirment on a H2 thinkin it will pass as a real hummer right. Now your broke, still hating life, still not getting any ass, still not earning any respect.. and your sitting there with a blinged out 2500 chevy thats going to continue to suck the life out of you. That brings us to now, life still sux and with no other resources you resort to name calling in attempts to degrade others trying to feel better about yourselves, your ****ty ass lives and the POS bleeding you dry in the driveway. You see, I KNOW that the name calling, welfare, burger king comments are all you have left when you resort to them, if you had real knowledge or better yet real respect for your hobby or your vehicle you wouldnt resort to such ****. I've flushed turds down the bowel (I mean droped turds in my outhouse) that were better than you bums....oh and if it makes you feel any more ****ty about your wasted existance I could pay cash for an H2 if I wanted one. Your burker king trailer deal is not going to work on me....hahaa. So You got what you wanted now, your balls are busted, your losing sleep tonight, soon you'll have the steel in your mouth and the note wrote for anyone who will read it, I got you all figured out. HAAHAHA You guys crack me up, thanx for the time fellers, I've trully enjoyed it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Reading that would be kill too many brain cells. I couldn't get past the <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I myself own an 05 libby </div></BLOCKQUOTE>part. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Libby, TJ, YJ, KY. They're all the same anyway.

Paragon/Kyle, you're still wheeling this weekend right?

KenP

12-02-2005, 03:26 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ckhagman:

Charles is the only H2 that I have seen do VooDoo at Paragon twice. Sure he got stuck but atleast he tried it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>The first time was the best! Sure it hurt the ears, but DAMN it was cool. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

KenP

12-02-2005, 03:29 PM

Hey, check out this thing. I read on the internet it uses the same frame as the Liberty, YJ, KJ things. It's also TrailRated just like the Rubi! This thing is going to be a monster on the trails!
http://www.uncrate.com/men/images/jeep-compass-3.jpg

Dan

12-02-2005, 03:36 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Hey, check out this thing. I read on the internet it uses the same frame as the Liberty, YJ, KJ things. It's also TrailRated just like the Rubi! This thing is going to be a monster on the trails!
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here's one at Paragon that repeatedly tried to roll over and play dead. Took a few of us to keep it on it's feet. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

KenP

12-02-2005, 03:41 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Hey, check out this thing. I read on the internet it uses the same frame as the Liberty, YJ, KJ things. It's also TrailRated just like the Rubi! This thing is going to be a monster on the trails!
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here's one at Paragon that repeatedly tried to roll over and play dead. Took a few of us to keep it on it's feet. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I can't believe dogs are allowed out there.

PARAGON

12-02-2005, 03:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Paragon/Kyle, you're still wheeling this weekend right? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>There's a few other Hummer owners coming up. You guys coming?

PARAGON

12-02-2005, 03:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
I myself own an 05 libby, I agree it was NEVER intended to be on the trail and it will never go there. You see I know that, but I know it will go to work and back and to the mall as it was intended and that is why I have it. I have real trail rigs also, I dont need to beat on a street queen and pretend its something its not. The libby is kinda like an H2 if you want my honest opinion. Theres nothing wrong with an H2 by any means and if someone wants to own and wheel one and respect this hobby and others who do it than good for them, they are my people (and if thats you please dont read any further as I think your A-OK and I have no intentions to offend you) but for you turd burglers who flap the gums, disrespect the hobby and the people doing it (paragon and others)here we go. Sure you own a 4wd and a 4wd can go off-road, did you guys just figure that out or something because the H2 is far from anything more capable than a blazer, tahoe or anything actually. You guys do know it is just a GM 2500 right, same exact thing with suspension parts interchangable and everything? The H2 has not earned respect in the wheelin world, has not earned a reputation and with mouth breathers like you few poluting the h2 gene pool it never will. What the fawk is you guys problem....oh wait, I think I figured it out...and since you pulled out the "your a bum, clean your trailer" I'll go there too...You guys bitching are just your average middle age tools who were over sheltered, under nurtured, never had a real life, an ambition, a hobby or fun even. Now your like lookin back goin wow, I'm half way to dead, the best years are behind me and I hate my life, I need something. So you get this idea right...."I know...I need a hummer, its badass, it will make me a man, women will flock to me, I'll pretend to look successful, it will be great". Now not able to afford a real hummer (or you would own one) and wanting to pretend like you can afford one you go and drop the wad, waste the retirment on a H2 thinkin it will pass as a real hummer right. Now your broke, still hating life, still not getting any ass, still not earning any respect.. and your sitting there with a blinged out 2500 chevy thats going to continue to suck the life out of you. That brings us to now, life still sux and with no other resources you resort to name calling in attempts to degrade others trying to feel better about yourselves, your ****ty ass lives and the POS bleeding you dry in the driveway. You see, I KNOW that the name calling, welfare, burger king comments are all you have left when you resort to them, if you had real knowledge or better yet real respect for your hobby or your vehicle you wouldnt resort to such ****. I've flushed turds down the bowel (I mean droped turds in my outhouse) that were better than you bums....oh and if it makes you feel any more ****ty about your wasted existance I could pay cash for an H2 if I wanted one. Your burker king trailer deal is not going to work on me....hahaa. So You got what you wanted now, your balls are busted, your losing sleep tonight, soon you'll have the steel in your mouth and the note wrote for anyone who will read it, I got you all figured out. HAAHAHA You guys crack me up, thanx for the time fellers, I've trully enjoyed it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Ever heard of a "line break"

shipbldr

12-02-2005, 04:15 PM

WOW Ken...

Is that pic of the "jeep car" real? Or a photo chop?

I think it looks sort of cool.

(Not going to get one, but still easy on the eye...)

KenP

12-02-2005, 04:26 PM

It's Jeep's new Compass. TrailRated Beatch! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Paragon, yes we'll be there with the usual group plus a few newbies with H3's.

Psychobilly

12-02-2005, 04:27 PM

Boy, I hit a soft spot and thats swell cuz it was my intentions. And yes, I can in fact pay cash for an h2 but I'd rather take a ice pick in the eye. Sorry, just not my speed.

Psychobilly

12-02-2005, 04:31 PM

DO your homework too, libby is car based ifs (kinda like the h2, ever break a tie rod?) the yj is solid front axle, how can you say the car it the same as a kj which is the same a yj and so on, There is a BIG dofference between a kj and a yj. Yes it may be the same as a libby, I dont know but it is likely however its like I said, the libby sux for wheelin, I know it, never argued against it.

KenP

12-02-2005, 04:38 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
DO your homework too, libby is car based ifs (kinda like the h2, ever break a tie rod?) the yj is solid front axle, how can you say the car it the same as a kj which is the same a yj and so on, There is a BIG dofference between a kj and a yj. Yes it may be the same as a libby, I dont know but it is likely however its like I said, the libby sux for wheelin, I know it, never argued against it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Get confused kid? They're all TrailRated so they're all the same. So what if one has an SFA. They still perform almost identical on the trails. Same frames, same tires, same seats, same grills.... Same cars.

HummerNewbie

12-02-2005, 04:39 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
...plus a few newbies with H3's. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Very cool. Make sure to take plenty of pics http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

PARAGON

12-02-2005, 04:54 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Paragon, yes we'll be there with the usual group plus a few newbies with H3's. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I'll get Stephanie to cook up a big breakfest for you guys.

Psychobilly

12-03-2005, 05:42 AM

HAHAHA! that was a good one, gotta give ya that. Fact of the matter is if i hated hummers I wouldnt have them out at the funland now would I??? I have nothing against hummer or the h2 (problem is with know it all rookies) I just personally wouldnt take an h2 over a subaru for trail use, thats my opinion and I'm entitled to it. I'm considering an h3 though, maybe looking for one that was already beat on, maybe theft recovery or something that I can cut up, add some tube, slap a solid axle under it and make a street legal wheeler out of it. I think the h3 has some favorable charactoristics for trail use and looks cool too.

DennisAJC

12-03-2005, 06:07 AM

Watch out billy. There are "Some" here that like em shaved.

But let's get back on track here. IMO. you can drive a civic equipped with an winch and chainsaw through faglands.

That's all I saw. Winch, chainsaws, and a whole lot of nothing. I suggest you look up some of the REAL videos on this Forum. You might learn something.

*HINT*: There's a reason why this video is not stickied. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I'll agree with you on the H3 looking cool though. It's an H2 clone except smaller and less power. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Now run along pussy http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

P.S. Funny how your profile disappeared off freakdates.com right after you posted here. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Dan

12-03-2005, 09:34 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Hey, check out this thing. I read on the internet it uses the same frame as the Liberty, YJ, KJ things. It's also TrailRated just like the Rubi! This thing is going to be a monster on the trails!
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here's one at Paragon that repeatedly tried to roll over and play dead. Took a few of us to keep it on it's feet. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I can't believe dogs are allowed out there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, that's just Pops. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Psychobilly

12-03-2005, 03:30 PM

Yeah dennis, since we had stock vehicles and the weather was crappy (mud slick) we had to stick to the easiest stuff we got up there but whats that say for you? I'll make you a deal. Since you know it all and you may just be dumb enough to do it I'll pay your gas for you to make the treck from up there in canadia to show me how its done. Heres the deal though, closest thing I got to a stock vehicle for trail use is a rodeo on 31's, nothing special really. I'll bet you 20 grand against your 20 grand or h2 (needs to be handed over in fair-excellent condition so I can trade it or sell) saying your h2 cant follow my rodeo on them trails at the funland. Lets see if you really believe the **** you sling around here buddy ol pal o mine. Getting your beat down busted ass home after this lil venture is up to you. What you say, I say back your ass up, you talk the big game, you got nothing to lose, its just a rodeo and the trails are cake anyway right? hahaha I wont get my hopes up.

And again, I stress, before this gets deep around here I have no gripe with any h2 or the majority of normal folks who own and enjoy them.

PARAGON

12-03-2005, 03:43 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
And again, I stress, before this gets deep around here I have no gripe with any h2 or the majority of normal folks who own and enjoy them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Now you're just a lying punk. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Psychobilly

12-03-2005, 03:56 PM

And again, If I was lying would I have hummers out to the funland? Let me add even more; because of the fact that the property is not insured to operate as an off-road park (zoning and other issues) very few folks ever get to see it. So let me ask you this, if the hummer club had a private off-road park would they invite me out in my trail rig, especially with no insurance policy, no fee's, fairly loose rules like wheelin after dark and so on? I think not! So now where's the hate? I think I could learn to hate you guys real quick though, you have no ****in respect for your hobby.

PARAGON

12-03-2005, 04:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
And again, If I was lying would I have hummers out to the funland? Let me add even more; because of the fact that the property is not insured to operate as an off-road park (zoning and other issues) very few folks ever get to see it. So let me ask you this, if the hummer club had a private off-road park would they invite me out in my trail rig, especially with no insurance policy, no fee's, fairly loose rules like wheelin after dark and so on? I think not! So now where's the hate? I think I could learn to hate you guys real quick though, you have no ****in respect for your hobby. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
....the H2 is far from anything more capable than a blazer, tahoe or anything actually... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Care to try again, dumbass!

"you have no ****in respect for your hobby." What part of left field did that comment come from. I believe we are the ones telling you hillbilly knobs to open your fcking eyes to the world outside of your own backwards county.

HummerNewbie

12-03-2005, 04:10 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
I'll bet you 20 grand against your 20 grand or h2 (needs to be handed over in fair-excellent condition so I can trade it or sell) saying your h2 cant follow my rodeo on them trails at the funland. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And I bet the trails chosen would be the narrow trails that rodeo could fit through and the H2 could right?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
So let me ask you this, if the hummer club had a private off-road park would they invite me out in my trail rig, especially with no insurance policy, no fee's, fairly loose rules like wheelin after dark and so on? I think not! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just because you assume something does not make it true. Most members here go out and wheel with whatever anyone brings along and don't care. Give one concrete reason why you would make that assumption.

PARAGON

12-03-2005, 04:12 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
the property is not insured to operate as an off-road park (zoning and other issues) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Zoning has nothing to do with insurance. Get a fcking zoning variance or get the zoning change. I think it's the "other issues." Like not being able to afford the insurance costs. You would think if you could "pay cash for an H2" you could afford a little piece of mind like insurance.

hummog

12-03-2005, 06:04 PM

Any owners' out here of both an H1 and a H2? I personnally have both and know, first-hand, that the off-roading capability of each is no where near comparision.
Of course, I'm sure though someone will have something smart to say. Let's leave the one-sided opinions out of this one and here from other joint owners.

PARAGON

12-03-2005, 06:12 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hummog:
Any owners' out here of both an H1 and a H2? <span class="ev_code_RED">YES</span> I personnally have both and know, first-hand, that the off-roading capability of each is no where near comparision. <span class="ev_code_RED">BS</span>
Of course, I'm sure though someone will have something smart to say. <span class="ev_code_RED">I AM SMART</span> Let's leave the one-sided opinions out of this one and here from other joint owners.<span class="ev_code_RED">THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE KEPT YOUR YAP SHUT, YOU JUST GAVE YOUR ONE-SIDED OPINION</span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

hummog

12-03-2005, 06:12 PM

How is owning both, and having an opinion based on that, one-sided?

You can't answer this question so just leave it alone. I'm sure there's others out there who have both so let's just let them chime in.

PARAGON

12-03-2005, 06:16 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hummog:
How is owning both, and having an opinion based on that, one-sided?

You can't answer this question so just leave it alone. I'm sure there's others out there who have both so let's just let them chime in. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Maybe you need to go back to smart school. An opinion, by natural conclusion, is one-sided. It's YOUR opinion, regardless of your experience, ownership, sexual orientation. The fact is, around here YOUR opinion matters about as much as T-bones at a vegan convention.

hummog

12-03-2005, 06:21 PM

You're so right........and probably if your parents had listened to the doctors opinion when you were born, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

PARAGON

12-03-2005, 06:37 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hummog:
You're so right........and probably if your parents had listened to the doctors opinion when you were born, we wouldn't be having this conversation. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Nice try... there were no doctors present when I was born.

DennisAJC

12-03-2005, 07:33 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
Yeah dennis, since we had stock vehicles and the weather was crappy (mud slick) we had to stick to the easiest stuff we got up there but whats that say for you? I'll make you a deal. Since you know it all and you may just be dumb enough to do it I'll pay your gas for you to make the treck from up there in canadia to show me how its done. Heres the deal though, closest thing I got to a stock vehicle for trail use is a rodeo on 31's, nothing special really. I'll bet you 20 grand against your 20 grand or h2 (needs to be handed over in fair-excellent condition so I can trade it or sell) saying your h2 cant follow my rodeo on them trails at the funland. Lets see if you really believe the **** you sling around here buddy ol pal o mine. Getting your beat down busted ass home after this lil venture is up to you. What you say, I say back your ass up, you talk the big game, you got nothing to lose, its just a rodeo and the trails are cake anyway right? hahaha I wont get my hopes up.

And again, I stress, before this gets deep around here I have no gripe with any h2 or the majority of normal folks who own and enjoy them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Psychobilly. I agree to your terms.

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5106011751/m/2761003841

hummog

12-03-2005, 09:21 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
Wow another H1 dickhead comes out the woodwork </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So just how many have you run into so far?

PARAGON

12-03-2005, 09:33 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hummog:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
Wow another H1 dickhead comes out the woodwork </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So just how many have you run into so far? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, we've run over quite a few who have come to this forum ignorance in hand.

rockking

12-03-2005, 09:42 PM

I bet you're one of the guys who owned a 924 and told everyone it was a real Porsche...

hummog

12-03-2005, 09:46 PM

[/QUOTE]
Not too many, I can only think of 1 H1 dickhead who I have met in person (out of maybe 20 H1 owners). Most of the dickheads (like you) have big keyboard muscles and would not say boo in person.[/QUOTE]

Sorry you have been so disappointed....I assure you that if I should ever have the pleasure of meeting you that I will give you that boo you've obviously been looking to receive.

rockking

12-03-2005, 09:49 PM

First, you've "ran over quite a few" and then "not too many".........which way is it?

Tell all the H1 owners you real feelings.

DennisAJC

12-03-2005, 10:02 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
I bet you're one of the guys who owned a 924 and told everyone it was a real Porsche... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's as stupid as one insisting he's Afro American when he's clearly just a black man.

rockking

12-03-2005, 10:08 PM

I figured it was just a matter of time before the foreigner wrote in.......

Hey Dennis, what did you do for Halloween.....Pump Kin.

PARAGON

12-03-2005, 10:10 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
First, you've "ran over quite a few" and then "not too many".........which way is it?

Tell all the H1 owners you real feelings. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>WTF are you attempting to iterate now?!?!?

All the other H1 owners know who most of the H1 dickheads are and most of those H1 dickheads have come here and then quickly shamed. I am surprised you don't own a H1, you would fit right in with the dickhead H1 owner club.... you know the ones that go and spend $15-20K on an old beat up 10 year old POS just to claim you own a Hummer.

PARAGON

12-03-2005, 10:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
I figured it was just a matter of time before the foreigner wrote in.......

Hey Dennis, what did you do for Halloween.....Pump Kin. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>No, that would be how you and billyboy became brothers.

hummog

12-03-2005, 10:16 PM

I don't have to threaten you Alec. You merely stated that you are used to dealing with guys who can talk **** here but run and hide from you in person.........I definitely won't be hiding from you.

hummog

12-03-2005, 10:23 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
Your not really getting it dude.

I've met a lot of owners and most of them are cool. It's the on-line big mouths like you that are the asshols of the H1 group.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who are you kidding.......Let's go back to how all this got started. A fellow H2 owner decided to share a video of some off-roading with the group. Most folks generally appreciate seeing stuff like that....regardless of the quality...
But not good enough.......a couple of H2 owners, who believe that they have conquered the meca of all off-roading start bad-mouthing him about it. A couple of H1 owners speak up for him, and then all hell breaks loose.

DennisAJC

12-03-2005, 10:26 PM

Alec,

It's the same ole story. They're all talk. They climb a hill, cut down a tree, slide in some mud, talk big on teh net. Old news.

Remember this same argument before the Moab trip? Invites were sent but I believe only the H2 club showed up. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I wish this thread came up before the Moab trip http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. There's a few obstacles that would have driven that point across. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I don't blame them completely though. There are known "All talk and no walk" members here. But we still "elp" them when they're bobbin. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Psychobilly

12-04-2005, 03:39 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummerNewbie:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Psychobilly:
I'll bet you 20 grand against your 20 grand or h2 (needs to be handed over in fair-excellent condition so I can trade it or sell) saying your h2 cant follow my rodeo on them trails at the funland. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And I bet the trails chosen would be the narrow trails that rodeo could fit through and the H2 could right?

Its all part of wheelin. hahah!

Psychobilly

12-04-2005, 06:36 AM

Where do you see that? Its on from my end.

HummBebe

12-04-2005, 09:26 PM

Shipbuilder/Charles,

I'm a wheelin' noob. I enjoyed watching your video. The observation that sticks with me the most, is the difference in the approach to your driving on day two. It was amazing. You picked different lines, and approached the mud with more confidence. I could tell you were not as apprehensive.

But, the obstacles you delt with, were difficult. Not Moab difficult, but for a noob, it was a far cry from a dirt road.

The footing that you were dealing with is tough. It takes just a hair more adrenaline to push thru the slipping.

I admire your courage. The toughest part, IMHO, is following H1's. Capabilities aside, it is damn hard to know what to do when you are attemping to follow a line behind an H1.

I have followed both H1's and H2's. And I can tell you, I did not start to "see" the line until I followed an H3. It has made SUCH a difference.

Thank you for all of the time and effort you put into the video.

Again, I enjoyed it.

shipbldr

12-04-2005, 09:45 PM

Hello HummBebe,

You're right about day 2... much less apprehension and lesser obstacles.

Still, it looks like soon we're going to get a chance to watch a couple of drivers who really know what they're doing go at it through the Funlands.

That will be some great wheeling to see.

GLBLWARMR

12-05-2005, 12:50 AM

Shipbuilder,

Watched the video right after your posted. Great wheelin. I am originally from NH and can't wait to get my H2 back home for some good ole wheelin fun. Right now I live in Oahu, Hawaii and the only off road I get to do is maybe at the beach. It sucks but in a couple years will be out having a great time. Thanks again for the great video

VTSTOMPER

12-05-2005, 01:18 AM

where in nh?

welcome btw!

hotpursuit

12-05-2005, 02:17 AM

WOW, alot of hate on here... im also a professional. i could go into bashing a ton of you but, imho anyone who uses ANY 4wd vehicle for the great recreation of off-roading is ok in my book. sure i have my choice of rides and my opinion on which ones work and do not work. and the amount of $$$ spent doesnt mean a thing. some of you need to get of your high horse and realize money isnt what makes a off-road rig better. every vehicle has its limits, as every driver does too.

if everyone thought the same life would be boring and change would never occur.

i say back up your shiat talking with actions, i know i can and do on a regular basis.

now ill throw out a smart azzed comment, anyone feel froggy against me and my rig, im always up for a friendly comp... remember rigs dont matter as all have there opinions, who want to play run what ya brung.......

PARAGON

12-05-2005, 03:30 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hotpursuit:
WOW, alot of hate on here... im also a professional. i could go into bashing a ton of you but, imho anyone who uses ANY 4wd vehicle for the great recreation of off-roading is ok in my book. sure i have my choice of rides and my opinion on which ones work and do not work. and the amount of $$$ spent doesnt mean a thing. some of you need to get of your high horse and realize money isnt what makes a off-road rig better. every vehicle has its limits, as every driver does too.

if everyone thought the same life would be boring and change would never occur.

i say back up your shiat talking with actions, i know i can and do on a regular basis.

now ill throw out a smart azzed comment, anyone feel froggy against me and my rig, im always up for a friendly comp... remember rigs dont matter as all have there opinions, who want to play run what ya brung....... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>the gheyness is getting strong up in here

KenP

12-05-2005, 04:15 AM

Thanks Alec. That about sums it up.

DennisAJC

12-05-2005, 05:59 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Thanks Alec. That about sums it up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

X3

Psychobilly

12-05-2005, 06:42 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> the gheyness is getting strong up in here </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

hahah, that was way before we showed up.

DennisAJC

12-05-2005, 09:30 AM

Billy,

Is that rumor true that you actually molest your livestock down there?

hotpursuit

12-05-2005, 12:24 PM

PARAGON

12-05-2005, 12:49 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hotpursuit:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hotpursuit:
WOW, alot of hate on here... im also a professional. i could go into bashing a ton of you but, imho anyone who uses ANY 4wd vehicle for the great recreation of off-roading is ok in my book. sure i have my choice of rides and my opinion on which ones work and do not work. and the amount of $$$ spent doesnt mean a thing. some of you need to get of your high horse and realize money isnt what makes a off-road rig better. every vehicle has its limits, as every driver does too.

if everyone thought the same life would be boring and change would never occur.

i say back up your shiat talking with actions, i know i can and do on a regular basis.

now ill throw out a smart azzed comment, anyone feel froggy against me and my rig, im always up for a friendly comp... remember rigs dont matter as all have there opinions, who want to play run what ya brung....... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>the gheyness is getting strong up in here </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
x2

LMAO, f/uck the 4x4 community, they hate H2s, even H1 people hate us. f/uck you all, we will do our thing on our own and WILL NOT donate a single penny to the cause.

Again f/uck you all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

WOW you guys are so focused on trying to defend yourselves that even when i come on here and dont knock one specific vehicle at all, you try and bash me, how do you know im not on your side.... calm down just a little, ill repeat again i respect any vehicle in the 4x4 community that is being used in the capacity of off-roading, no matter how intense or how slight, i promote the sport... period. we all have our preferences and opinions.

you guys are so pissed you dont even realize that i was not knocking you ar anyone for that matter. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Dude, nobody up in here on a regular basis is pissed. It is idiots like you that come in here challenging us in "competitions." I don't think I've read anywhere on this entire board in the 3 years I've been here where someone thought the H2 was a competition rock buggy yet because we wheel them and can make them do things off-road, less-than-smarts come in here talking competition.

You got the response you got because you DID NOT come in here just in support of the off-road community. You came in here saying "I am a professional" "i could go into bashing a ton of you" "anyone feel froggy against me and my rig, im always up for a friendly comp"

Mind you, this was your first post on this board, so excuse us if we don't think you are much more than being full of crap.

hotpursuit

12-05-2005, 12:53 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shipbldr:
Back the tree thing...

I see the whole tree thing from a different angle too.

I guess I got jaded about the whole chainsaws and trees cut down thing.

I must have become "tree insensitive" at work... you see... a couple of twigs at the Funlands aren't the first to die for my Hummer...

Here's picture from "the yard" at "work"

so... let the whining about dead trees roll in!

I think it took about 310 acres of clear cut trees to pay for my Hummer....

And yes... now that you mention it I probably could have winched off of somethings, but no we didn't care to waste the time.

But it is a point taken, and will be in the back of my mind.

My main thought about trees is that they "grow back".

Different world views I guess.

Live well http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
What a crock of <span class="ev_code_BLACK">s</span>hit. Analogizing the lumber business with treading lightly on trails is absurd.

It’s obvious you live back East where most of the public OHV trails have been closed for years and most wheeling (if not all) is in OHV parks or on private land. Ever wondered why we don’t have to put big ugly red flags on our vehicles when we wheel out here? It’s because we wheel on public land and we still have the right to drive on a designated ROWs (right of way).

Out here in the West we are fighting everyday with environmentalists to keep our public lands and trails in places like Moab and the Colorado Rockies open for OHV use. Most of the arguments used by environmentalists are exemplified by demonstrating that OHV use wrecks the land. Such examples typically show some fool driving over something which takes years to back. An extreme case in the high Rockies is arctic tundra, however they will often take any information (pictures and video) they can find and twist it out of context to further their cause.

In actuality the vast majority of wheelers out West are good stewards of the land and respectful of the environment and cause (I know the group that hits up Moab twice a year from this forum is). It’s the smaller minority of people that will eventually cause our trails to be closed. Some of these people are simply uneducated and the rest are idiots.

Tell you what, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and take your "grow back" attitude as the latter.
* </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

alec, i understand your point on this. in utah there are not many trees... in the west alot of land is owned by the government... in the east alot of the land is private ownership, mainly for logging industry income. alot of private owners do not want vehicle on there property for liability reasons, the ones that do are real specific about not affecting trees that have logging value. its just alot different out here... i have never blazed a rail, but we have built trails on numerous private properties, alot of places i go, you could not fit a quad through with out cutting a few trees down.

now we can look at pictures and videos and say moab is hardcore, sure, the angles can get extreme... thats because the traction is plentiful. throw some loose dirt/mud to the mix and its just as hard if not harder, even though the "angles" arent as extreme...

now go ahead and bash me again, when im am trying to be open minded and put another view point out there.

hotpursuit

12-05-2005, 12:58 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hotpursuit:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hotpursuit:
WOW, alot of hate on here... im also a professional. i could go into bashing a ton of you but, imho anyone who uses ANY 4wd vehicle for the great recreation of off-roading is ok in my book. sure i have my choice of rides and my opinion on which ones work and do not work. and the amount of $$$ spent doesnt mean a thing. some of you need to get of your high horse and realize money isnt what makes a off-road rig better. every vehicle has its limits, as every driver does too.

if everyone thought the same life would be boring and change would never occur.

i say back up your shiat talking with actions, i know i can and do on a regular basis.

now ill throw out a smart azzed comment, anyone feel froggy against me and my rig, im always up for a friendly comp... remember rigs dont matter as all have there opinions, who want to play run what ya brung....... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>the gheyness is getting strong up in here </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
x2

LMAO, f/uck the 4x4 community, they hate H2s, even H1 people hate us. f/uck you all, we will do our thing on our own and WILL NOT donate a single penny to the cause.

Again f/uck you all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

WOW you guys are so focused on trying to defend yourselves that even when i come on here and dont knock one specific vehicle at all, you try and bash me, how do you know im not on your side.... calm down just a little, ill repeat again i respect any vehicle in the 4x4 community that is being used in the capacity of off-roading, no matter how intense or how slight, i promote the sport... period. we all have our preferences and opinions.

you guys are so pissed you dont even realize that i was not knocking you ar anyone for that matter. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Dude, nobody up in here on a regular basis is pissed. It is idiots like you that come in here challenging us in "competitions." I don't think I've read anywhere on this entire board in the 3 years I've been here where someone thought the H2 was a competition rock buggy yet because we wheel them and can make them do things off-road, less-than-smarts come in here talking competition.

You got the response you got because you DID NOT come in here just in support of the off-road community. You came in here saying "I am a professional" "i could go into bashing a ton of you" "anyone feel froggy against me and my rig, im always up for a friendly comp"

Mind you, this was your first post on this board, so excuse us if we don't think you are much more than being full of crap. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well i sure wasnt saying i was a professional to piss anyone off, but i was merely stating a truth.

and the "friendly comp may have been directed to the H-1's or H-2's or both im just making a simple comment, i didnt pic anyone out directly

PARAGON

12-05-2005, 01:24 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hotpursuit:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hotpursuit:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hotpursuit:
WOW, alot of hate on here... im also a professional. i could go into bashing a ton of you but, imho anyone who uses ANY 4wd vehicle for the great recreation of off-roading is ok in my book. sure i have my choice of rides and my opinion on which ones work and do not work. and the amount of $$$ spent doesnt mean a thing. some of you need to get of your high horse and realize money isnt what makes a off-road rig better. every vehicle has its limits, as every driver does too.

if everyone thought the same life would be boring and change would never occur.

i say back up your shiat talking with actions, i know i can and do on a regular basis.

now ill throw out a smart azzed comment, anyone feel froggy against me and my rig, im always up for a friendly comp... remember rigs dont matter as all have there opinions, who want to play run what ya brung....... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>the gheyness is getting strong up in here </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
x2

LMAO, f/uck the 4x4 community, they hate H2s, even H1 people hate us. f/uck you all, we will do our thing on our own and WILL NOT donate a single penny to the cause.

Again f/uck you all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

WOW you guys are so focused on trying to defend yourselves that even when i come on here and dont knock one specific vehicle at all, you try and bash me, how do you know im not on your side.... calm down just a little, ill repeat again i respect any vehicle in the 4x4 community that is being used in the capacity of off-roading, no matter how intense or how slight, i promote the sport... period. we all have our preferences and opinions.

you guys are so pissed you dont even realize that i was not knocking you ar anyone for that matter. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Dude, nobody up in here on a regular basis is pissed. It is idiots like you that come in here challenging us in "competitions." I don't think I've read anywhere on this entire board in the 3 years I've been here where someone thought the H2 was a competition rock buggy yet because we wheel them and can make them do things off-road, less-than-smarts come in here talking competition.

You got the response you got because you DID NOT come in here just in support of the off-road community. You came in here saying "I am a professional" "i could go into bashing a ton of you" "anyone feel froggy against me and my rig, im always up for a friendly comp"

Mind you, this was your first post on this board, so excuse us if we don't think you are much more than being full of crap. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well i sure wasnt saying i was a professional to piss anyone off, but i was merely stating a truth.

and the "friendly comp may have been directed to the H-1's or H-2's or both im just making a simple comment, i didnt pic anyone out directly </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, I could say that you sound like a prick, and it would be the truth.

Specifically you stated "im also a professional. i could go into bashing a ton of you"

If you haven't gotten it by now, a professional does not conduct themselves in this manner when first approaching a group. Get it now, Mr. Professional.

GLBLWARMR

12-05-2005, 01:32 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
where in nh?

welcome btw! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My in-laws are in the East Wakefield area. In case you do not know that area it is about 20 minutes north of Rochester just off the Spaulding/Rt 16. Thanks for the welcome.

I am guessing since you are asking you also are floating around the NH area? I only get up there about once every three years since the Marine Corps keeps me in far off places. My family and I just came out of Okinawa, Japan after being there for 6 years.

We had some decent 4x4's over there but nothing like the H2. I had a couple different Land cruisers and toyota surfs (4runners). No good American built vehicles which sucked but the Surf was a great vehicle. I now look at the rice rocket vehicles in a different light but they still do not compare to my SUT.

GLBLWARMR

12-05-2005, 02:33 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GLBLWARMR:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
where in nh?

welcome btw! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My in-laws are in the East Wakefield area. In case you do not know that area it is about 20 minutes north of Rochester just off the Spaulding/Rt 16. Thanks for the welcome.

I am guessing since you are asking you also are floating around the NH area? I only get up there about once every three years since the Marine Corps keeps me in far off places. My family and I just came out of Okinawa, Japan after being there for 6 years.

We had some decent 4x4's over there but nothing like the H2. I had a couple different Land cruisers and toyota surfs (4runners). No good American built vehicles which sucked but the Surf was a great vehicle. I now look at the rice rocket vehicles in a different light but they still do not compare to my SUT. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

VTSTOMPER = Vermont Stomper.

You have to forgive my senior moment. As the days go by I seen to be having more and more of them and they are coming more frequent. I do not remember much of Vermont except how to get to Killington, Sugarbush and Jay Peak. I haven't been up in VT in about 14 years. Which part of VT are you in??

VTSTOMPER

12-05-2005, 03:38 PM

LOL! it is all good!

I am real close to Killington, about 30 miles away! I am sure it has not changed too much since you were here, VT that is! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

hotpursuit

12-05-2005, 05:50 PM

[/QUOTE]Well, I could say that you sound like a prick, and it would be the truth.

Specifically you stated "im also a professional. i could go into bashing a ton of you"

If you haven't gotten it by now, a professional does not conduct themselves in this manner when first approaching a group. Get it now, Mr. Professional.[/QUOTE]

again, i have not name called or any other direct insults what so ever, yet you are now calling me names and such....... whatever.

yes i did state im a professional, not to upset anyone, as others may be also. when i stated i could bash people, it was meant, i could but this is not my intent, yet you find this offensive. im sorry but i havent posted anything offensive, so please in the most sincere meaning, dont get your panties all bunched up over my posts.

i felt i conducted myself in a manner that was not offensive and rude, but as truthful and proper....

DRTYFN

12-05-2005, 05:58 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hotpursuit:
...so please in the most sincere meaning, dont get your panties all bunched up over my posts.

i felt i conducted myself in a manner that was not offensive and rude, but as truthful and proper.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't flatter yourself, bitch. You're as offensive as a butterfly fart.

rockking

12-05-2005, 06:04 PM

Hey Hotpursuit........don't try to rational with these guys.....They can't help it.....They bought into a vehicle that was bastardized by it's owner!
GM waived the dollars and American General bit......

It's a shame how GM put all that effort into the initial marketing ploy for the vehicle, and now won't even provide technical support for it during official Hummer Club Events.

GM got what they wanted, and now the only thing these guys have left for support is themselves!

hotpursuit

12-05-2005, 06:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
So what is your intent? Why are you here? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

my intent was to say we are all into wheeling and i have a strong passion for that and anyone else who does also. my intent is to say we all have our beliefs and opinions and none are necessarily wrong. my intent was it doesnt matter what vehicle you have no matter the cost nor where you decide to dwell, we all have the same passion. my intent was to show that sopme things done on the east coast are accepted (geographically different than the west) no matter who thinks there ride is the best , for whatever reasons, there is always a more capable one out there somwhere. some driver just cant drive, some have never been pushed beyond the edge which is a huge learning advantage... my overall intent on here is NOT to get into a bitch fest but to promote the awsome sport/hobby/ and yes some a profession of off-roading.

DRTYFN

12-05-2005, 07:17 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
Hey Hotpursuit........don't try to rational with these guys<span class="ev_code_RED">(And someone is supposed to listen to you? You don't even know the difference betweeen "rational" & rationalize.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif) </span>.....They can't help it.....They bought into a vehicle that was bastardized by it's owner!<span class="ev_code_RED">HOMOSAYWHAT?? </span>
GM waived the dollars and American General bit......<span class="ev_code_RED">Oh, dear god...http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif You bring the suck. </span>

It's a shame how GM put all that effort into the initial marketing ploy for the vehicle, and now won't even provide technical support for it during official Hummer Club Events.<span class="ev_code_RED"> Your claim is not backed up by facts. </span>

GM got what they wanted<span class="ev_code_RED">(and so did all of the H2 & H3 owners.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) </span>, and now the only thing these guys have left for support is themselves!<span class="ev_code_RED">Again...HOMOSAYWHAT?? </span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<span class="ev_code_RED">Put the crack pipe down before you set your cubicle on fire. </span>

DRTYFN

12-05-2005, 07:19 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hotpursuit:
BLAHBLAHBLAH...

...my overall intent on here is NOT to get into a bitch fest but to promote the awsome sport/hobby/ and yes some a profession of off-roading. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think we(Hummer owners & other brand owners) were doing a decent job of that before you crowned yourself the "One Who Is The Guiding Light".http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

h2co-pilot

12-05-2005, 07:21 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
Don't flatter yourself, bitch. You're as offensive as a butterfly fart. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That made me giggle.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

h2co-pilot

12-05-2005, 07:25 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hotpursuit:
my intent was to say we are all into wheeling Echo... and i have a strong passion for that and anyone else who does also. my intent is to say we all have our beliefs and opinions Echo... and none are necessarily wrong. my intent was it doesnt matter what vehicle you have no matter the cost nor where you decide to dwell, we all have the same passion. Echo... my intent was to show that sopme things done on the east coast are accepted (geographically different than the west) no matter who thinks there ride is the best Echo..., for whatever reasons Echo..., there is always a more capable one out there somwhere. Echo... some driver just cant drive, some have never been pushed beyond the edge which is a huge learning advantage... my overall intent on here is NOT to get into a bitch fest but to promote the awsome sport/hobby/ and yes some a profession of off-roading.Echo... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

hotpursuit

12-05-2005, 09:08 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
Hey Hotpursuit........don't try to rational with these guys.....They can't help it.....They bought into a vehicle that was bastardized by it's owner!
GM waived the dollars and American General bit......

It's a shame how GM put all that effort into the initial marketing ploy for the vehicle, and now won't even provide technical support for it during official Hummer Club Events.

GM got what they wanted, and now the only thing these guys have left for support is themselves! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

you know, i tried, i was in no way rude to these simple minded, one way asshats....

hotpursuit

12-05-2005, 09:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hotpursuit:
BLAHBLAHBLAH...

...my overall intent on here is NOT to get into a bitch fest but to promote the awsome sport/hobby/ and yes some a profession of off-roading. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think we(Hummer owners & other brand owners) were doing a decent job of that before you crowned yourself the "One Who Is The Guiding Light".http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i never crowned myself, i just saw a ton of bitching on here and was basically saying let it go and quit the bitch fest, instead i get dragged into it, how long have you been involved in off-roading? it is a strong brotherhood and i didnt like seeing the bashing, im starting to understand as to why it is this way though... let me guess pretty rich boy whos mommy and daddy gave him everything but common sense and manners... you really are an idiot

DennisAJC

12-05-2005, 09:41 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hotpursuit:
let me guess pretty rich boy <STRIKE>whos mommy and daddy gave him everything but common sense and manners... you really are an idiot</STRIKE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You got one thing right. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Things tend to calm down after a bout like this. Peace and Harmony eventually resumes. Stick around long enough and you`ll see. In 2-3 years. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Out on the trails we are a funloving bunch that not only talks the talk but walks the walk. We love to stomp on self proclaimed trailer trash psychobillies of the world but also we`re the type who`d help anyone on the trails and laugh over a beer with.

It`s years of attacks on us that have thickened our e-skins and we`re very protective of each other in general.

Mabye if you stayed awhile and started contributing or sharing pictures and experiences, hell, we might agree you`re a professional. But understand for now, we don`t know you thus the attack on your self proclimation.

Psychobilly

12-05-2005, 10:45 PM

Their just rookies who cant get any ass and feed on the fantasy they are badass there Hotpursuit. Our only hope (since you cant argue with an idiot)is that they have enough pride to accept the challenge from the rodeo on 31's and quit making excusses. I tried to reason with them but they cant communicate on that level as you can clearly see.

DennisAJC

12-05-2005, 10:58 PM

LMAO!!! Psychobilly!!!!

Your predicament would be sad if it weren`t pathetic.

Getting spanked and raped here and PBB (Priceless! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) and you haven`t swallowed a bullet yet.

Either you`re an advanced stage retard or you dropped out in grade 2 when they were teaching the no no`s of eating paint chips.

Psychobilly

12-05-2005, 11:01 PM

if you guys were not such rookies you would reccognise team hotpursuit. Being the rookies you are though you cant see out of your little world here. You guys are like a 5th grade flunky challenging a masters educated engineer in math compition. In your 5th grade flunky world you can multiply a few numbers and since that is all you know you think you just know everything. In the world of wheeling Dennis, you are the 5th grade flunky. I'm not on the level of Hotpursuit but I am still an expert level wheeler in this hobby, I can line my vehicles up on any trail in this country, any fawking trail, I've donr the time, I've busted my knuckles, I've put forth the effort to get to that point, I didnt just pretend to be me. You get to be an expert by earning it, you have not earned anything, you dont even respect your fellow h2 buddies. Sorry, you want to be more than a 5th grade flunky quit talking your **** and earn what you think you you have coming. Do you have to accept my challenge, no you would be a fawking idiot too but you can start by respecting others in the hobby. I dont think your **** because of your attitude, you may fool a few other rookies but your not fooling Rob, charles or me. I see your ride, its a stock H2 and it looks clean. Charles H2 looked clean but he had dents in the thing. I can tell you for a fact too the voodoo trail he was on at paragon would show you a whole new world of wheeling. Your not even hardcore on here dennis, guys like charles push their vehicles capability more than you do. You know what too, since you have to drive to a different country to do your wheeling I would think charles has more seat time than you do anyway. Earn your respect and you will get it but dont try to pretend or you will just look like a pussy.

DennisAJC

12-05-2005, 11:28 PM

LMAO!!!! Billy you're such a pussy.

I can see your veins popping from here. Ownage is complete.

This preazes me. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I am where I am because I worked hard. Unlike you. So live with it. As in the PM's you will be a ghost to us. You bore us now and soon be ignored.

Spike

12-05-2005, 11:53 PM

originally posted by IncestBoy,

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Their just rookies who cant get any ass and feed on the fantasy </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
And if you subtracted everyone who was a blood relative off your "got laid list" you would be at ZERO!!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">if you guys were not such rookies you would reccognise team hotpursuit. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Oh by the Rube, you did it again. You spelled (recognize) wrong. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Being the rookies you are though you cant see out of your little world here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Here he goes again, tossing that "rookie" moniker around like there is no tomorrow. You must be the best wheeler in the world. In fact, you would be my hero if you weren't such an incestuous, back woods, country bumpkin - dumb f$ck!!

PARAGON

12-06-2005, 12:19 AM

Well, I for one never owned a 4x4 vehicle or wheeled before the H2 came out. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

hotpursuit

12-06-2005, 04:56 AM

ok, i can clearly see this isnt goin anywhere good.... i will continue to visit this site and check out whats goin on in hummer world, as in h-1, h-2 and h-3, im anxious to see more and more people utilize them in there respected enviroment, off-road... and am excited to see some take there personl rides to higher levels of modification....

and i too would help anyone on the trail and drink a few beers and tell some lies http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif even if you appeared to be an asshat on here, it is really hard to judge one by his typed words on the net.

and i can see where the h2 guys get a beating from others and i guess if i were in your shoes i may feel defensive also...

hope you all keep wheeling your h-2's and remember chicks dig dents.

DennisAJC

12-06-2005, 05:04 AM

Most of us are married. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And let me tell you, my wife does not like dents. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

KenP

12-06-2005, 05:14 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
Most of us are married. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And let me tell you, my wife does not like dents. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>No sheat. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

hotpursuit

12-06-2005, 05:22 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
Most of us are married. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And let me tell you, my wife does not like dents. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ahhh well marrage is a 4 letter word for me right now.... i just bought a doberman pup shes gonna be my trail bitch, hehehe pun intended..

JollyRoger

12-06-2005, 01:47 PM

After reading this thread, I've come to the conclusion that DennisAJC is an Immature Prick.

Dude, grow up.

DRTYFN

12-06-2005, 01:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JollyRoger:
After reading this thread, I've come to the conclusion that DennisAJC is an Immature Prick.

Dude, grow up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Uhm... that's my title, you uninformed turd.

PARAGON

12-06-2005, 02:50 PM

CO Hummer

12-06-2005, 04:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hotpursuit:
now we can look at pictures and videos and say moab is hardcore, sure, the angles can get extreme... thats because the traction is plentiful. throw some loose dirt/mud to the mix and its just as hard if not harder, even though the "angles" arent as extreme... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMAO. Have you looked at any of Alec's 10,000 pictures of wheeling in Colorado? Steep, rocky, loose, muddy. Maybe you should do some research before you open your yap.

CO Hummer

12-06-2005, 04:12 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Psychobilly:
You guys are like a 5th grade flunky challenging a masters educated engineer in math compition. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can enyone sea watt's hularius abowt this intelleckual post?

rockking

12-06-2005, 04:45 PM

I don't know Dennis, but you sure as hell don't look like you would fit in at any Klan rallys.....

http://overtorqued.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13138

All you fellow H2 owners better be careful! Seems Dennis can only really express himself on other forums.

DRTYFN

12-06-2005, 04:53 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
I don't know Dennis, but you sure as hell don't look like you would fit in at any Klan rallys.....

http://overtorqued.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13138

All you fellow H2 owners better be careful! Seems Dennis can only really express himself on other forums. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's not this Dennis. Dennis_AJC is not the same as DennisAJC. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

rockking

12-06-2005, 05:14 PM

Sure it isn't.....And neither are these ones.....

http://comments.big-boys.com/member.asp?nickname=DennisAJC

DRTYFN

12-06-2005, 05:18 PM

You've never been accused of being very bright, have you?http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

rockking

12-06-2005, 05:23 PM

I know.........this DennisAJC is not the "DennisAJC" and of course the "Dennis_AJC" is neither.......

Defend him all you want.......thank god there's alot smarter folks on here, though probably won't respond, however now at least know the real DennisAJC.

DennisAJC

12-06-2005, 05:35 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
I know.........this DennisAJC is not the "DennisAJC" and of course the "Dennis_AJC" is neither.......

Defend him all you want.......thank god there's alot smarter folks on here, though probably won't respond, however now at least know the real DennisAJC. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

DAAAARRRRR!!!!!!!! I'm everywhere!

On OTN there is DennisAJC, Dennis.AJC, Dennis_AJC.

Which one I am, I'm not telling.

DAAAARRRRRRR!!!!!!!

Surprisingly a rockking just registered with a man on man dating website last night. More to come. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

KenP

12-06-2005, 05:48 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
I don't know Dennis, but you sure as hell don't look like you would fit in at any Klan rallys.....

http://overtorqued.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13138

All you fellow H2 owners better be careful! Seems Dennis can only really express himself on other forums. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Damn near self-ownage here. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

rockking

12-06-2005, 05:52 PM

Good Job Dennis!

Hey Billy, don't be surprised if you receive a PM from Dennis apologizing for everything he said........He's good at that.......talk $hit here and then put his tail between his legs....

""Originally Posted by DennisAJC
Guys,

I'd like to apologize the contraversy this video has cause. When I found out it reached the RUBICON Forum, I felt I should explain myself. Please bear with me.

I've been wheelin Jeeps for 7-8 years ( Modded YJ Sahara ). I am very much aware and versed with it's capabilities.

I bought my Pewter H2 in Nov 2002, delivered March 2003. I wanted a capable wheeler where I could bring my family and not sacrafice on space for gear and stuff. Grand Cherokee was not going to do that for me IMHO.

I'm not a fan of BLING and I wheel when I can. I'm not afraid to take risks and I'll push my limits without worrying too much about carnage let alone scratches. I'm just like you, I work hard, play hard, and joke alot.

I've found a handful of H2 wheelers who feel the same way. We're all spread apart by hundreds/thousands of miles but we try and get together in MOAB about twice a year with other Jeeps/Discos/Yotas.

For almost 3 years now, my H2 has been spat on, kicked, keyed, heckled, egged.

When I drive it I get yelled at, fingered at, laughed at, cut off, threatened. Even with my wife and two boys 2 and 5 now.

On the trails, same thing.

I use to belong to Jeep Forum because of my past. The hate and misinformation about the H2 has been flung around that site uncontrollably for years now. Just these few months it started spreading into our Forum and the war began.

There wasn't much fight in us because most of the H2ers were ex and present Jeep owners also and we staill had a certain loyalty to the brand. The mocking and misinformation continued until there was a breaking point. Jerry Bransford.

BTW. Jerry Bransford has some pretty ****ty comments about Rubi's also just in case somebody here vouches for him.

ALL THE THINGS STATED AGAINST THE JEEP IN THAT VIDEO ARE FALSE.

The video was just an excercise in "how does it feel" when the tables are turned. What we've gone through over the years. If I spread lies about their rigs the way they spread lies about ours? The Saddam and Hitler was distasteful but purely for shock effect.

Sure watching idiots bling their rides and some who'll never(About 95%)see a gravel road, doesn't help our reputation. But you can't do that kind **** to a fellow wheeler and judge him by what he drives whithout knowing the driver.

Everyone now says H2ers are *******s and snobs...

Over the years of fist fights,arguments,middle fingers, and heckles, H2 owners including myself, have developed "Tunnel Vision" which can be mistaken as snooty. I'm just weary to look at the driver next to me or passing a fellow wheeler and run the risk of getting "The response". Even the majority of H1 owners shun us. Mabye 70% of wheelers I've approached to say hi and talk shop have been bad experiences so I just stopped doing that unless they approached me.

Jeepers and Rubicons that have wheeled with us, know we are an EXTREMELY friendly bunch. We will run to aid anyone who asks and will buy a fellow wheeler a beer or ten.

We already have enviromentalists issues to deal with but to have the wheelin community come down on you on top of that, can you blame us?

Some here will say that rivalries have happened for years, but have you heard of a FUjeep, FUrubicon,FUyota.com before? FUH2 is a thorn.

If you visit our Forum, come as a fellow wheeler ,be friends and possible cross paths for fun and booze. Come in to insult us, like any Forum, you guys know what the response will be. We're not bad people. We're just like you. But fed up. 3 years of BS vs 1 week of Video, call it even.

We DEFINITELY DON'T have a beef with Rubicon Owners Forum and do not wish to have one....Please.

Thanks for your time. Again, I am truly sorry this has reached your Forum and disrupted Rubicon Members. It was never intended.

You can kick me off now."

KenP

12-06-2005, 05:56 PM

Everybody knows about that, dumbass. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

You just don't get it.

rockking

12-06-2005, 05:58 PM

You mean everyone on the jeep site knew about it. If everyone knew about it and it was the truth then why the posts continue saying otherwise.....

Dan

12-06-2005, 06:32 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
You mean everyone on the jeep site knew about it. If everyone knew about it and it was the truth then why the posts continue saying otherwise..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Damn, this is going right over your hayseed head isn't it?

DennisAJC

12-06-2005, 06:59 PM

DAAAAAAAAARRRRR!!!!!!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

rockking

12-06-2005, 07:03 PM

There comes a point when you say enough is enough.......obviously your support for Dennis must be a symbol that you share his same racist believes, I assume.

DennisAJC

12-06-2005, 07:05 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
There comes a point when you say enough is enough.......obviously your support for Dennis must be a symbol that you share his same racist believes, I assume. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

DAAAARRRR!!!!!!

Uh ya OK http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

STFU you chink lover. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

DAAAAAARRRRR!!!!!!

HummerNewbie

12-06-2005, 07:16 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
You mean everyone on the jeep site knew about it. If everyone knew about it and it was the truth then why the posts continue saying otherwise..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess what Ken should have said was that everyone that mattered knew. Apparently you do not matter because you did not know. You just need to get over yourself cockking.

rockking

12-06-2005, 07:19 PM

Obviously you must think that all the other members are reading this and agreeing with you about Dennis......Yeah right!

Accept it.....your cool off-roading buddy from Canada is a racist......he talks about blacks, jews and yes, even whites!

Don't try to compare some simple joking around on the internet with the words that he utilizes.

12-06-2005, 07:21 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
There comes a point when you say enough is enough.......obviously your support for Dennis must be a symbol that you share his same racist believes, I assume. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I have to agree with cockking here, DennisAJC is a racist pig. Why the forum moderator puts up with the likes of DennisAJC, Alec W and HummerNewbie and the rest is beyond me. It’s about time someone stood up to these idiots.

Way to go man keep up the good work.

DennisAJC

12-06-2005, 07:30 PM

DAAAARRRRR!!!!!!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

I'm a bad racist mutha!

DAAARRRRR!!!!!!!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jim_Cantore

12-06-2005, 09:01 PM

Dennis hates everybody. Limeys, Niks, Hebs, Fat Dagos, Niggers, Honkies, Chinks, you name it.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dan

12-06-2005, 11:08 PM

HeimenHummer

12-07-2005, 01:37 AM

Nice effort on the video. Looked like fun.
I do understand Dennis's position. There's alot of bad footage on there that makes the H2 look bad. Dennis and gang are protective of the community and you should take that into account.

He is capable of generating contraversy. But that's one of the big reasons most people log on. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I don't come here often. But when I do, guaranteed he's got his fingers in the pie. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Kellen

12-07-2005, 02:34 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jim_Cantore:
Dennis hates everybody. Limeys, Niks, Hebs, Fat Dagos, Niggers, Honkies, Chinks, you name it.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So much for ethics and racial equality.

Walter_Cronkite

12-07-2005, 04:30 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Connie_Chung:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jim_Cantore:
Dennis hates everybody. Limeys, Niks, Hebs, Fat Dagos, Niggers, Honkies, Chinks, you name it.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So much for ethics and racial equality. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You sweet and sour twat.

How come you're married to a shrivelly potato sack white man. Got something against Asian men?

I'm glad I only dipped it inside you once and kicked you out of the car. It still smells like won ton.

Kellen

12-07-2005, 04:39 AM

gross.

and "shrivelly" is not a word.

DRTYFN

12-07-2005, 05:25 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
LMAO, DennisAJC here is not the same Dennis_AJC (and the other ones) in the other forums (well one of them might be I haven’t figured out which one yet http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif). It does not matter worth a crap if you believe me or not. I can absolutely say none of us have a racist bone in our bodies. If you select snippets of posts you could build that argument, however we joke with each other and fool around a lot of multiple forums and mess with names.

Get over yourself, this is not going anywhere. You will get frustrated and leave, so save the frustration and just take off. DO NOW!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

That is all </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey Hey HEY!!! Speak for yourself. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

DRTYFN

12-07-2005, 05:37 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rockking:
Obviously you must think that all the other members are reading this and agreeing with you about Dennis......Yeah right!

Accept it.....your cool off-roading buddy from Canada is a racist......he talks about blacks, jews and yes, even whites!

Don't try to compare some simple joking around on the internet with the words that he utilizes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You've got to be the densest 'tard to come bompy-dompying in here in some time.
If you consider Dennis a racist(which is only because you're so fuc<span class="ev_code_BLACK">king</span> stupid that you can't grasp the concept of someone has been acting as his doppelganger (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=doppelganger) and using his screen name to cause mischief & trouble) then you'll fall out of your little faggy chair and dislodge your vibrating & ribbed butt plug from your semen encrusted anus when you look at me and figure out that I'm your very own personal Anti-Christ. If you really want to play let me know and we'll put the dogs on you and see how you like IPRelay calls at 3 am and other entertaining hijinks. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif