SUPER COLLIDER COUNTDOWN

[DRTYFN]

http://www.lhcountdown.com/

[Big Dad]

Holy cow...it's not a meatspin link either!

:jump:

[Adam in CO]

No, it's not.

It's even less interesting.

Drty, what the hell is a large hadron collider?

[h2co-pilot]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider http://smilies.vidahost.com/cwm/cwm/read.gif

[DRTYFN]

No, it's not.

It's even less interesting.

Drty, what the hell is a large hadron collider?
I'm amazed that you don't understand the possible ramifications of that collider.

[Adam in CO]

Uh. Okay.

[Easy Ed]

Home page here http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/


Pics here http://cdsweb.cern.ch/search?cc=Photos&p=LHC&f=&c=Photos&c=&sf=&so=d&rm=&rg=500&sc=0&of=hb_p

[H2 rocks me]

Those folks are going to try and divide by zero with that thing!!!


file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/TCARST%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg

[DRTYFN]

Those folks are going to try and divide by zero with that thing!!!


file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/TCARST%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg
:jump: :jump: :jump:

[Adam in CO]

Dr. Egon Spengler (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000601/): There's something very important I forgot to tell you.
Dr. Peter Venkman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000195/): What?
Dr. Egon Spengler (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000601/): Don't cross the streams.
Dr. Peter Venkman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000195/): Why?
Dr. Egon Spengler (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000601/): It would be bad.
Dr. Peter Venkman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000195/): I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad"?
Dr. Egon Spengler (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000601/): Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
Dr Ray Stantz (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000101/): Total protonic reversal.
Dr. Peter Venkman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000195/): Right. That's bad. Okay. All right. Important safety tip. Thanks, Egon.

[Easy Ed]

The countdown timer was set to the 15th of May because there was no definite time given for the actual activation, recent events show that CERN wont be dividing by zero until much later on in the year, so now the countdown timer will be reset again and will be continually tweaked to go by the latest info that CERN are releasing.
So sorry to disappoint you all, but you wont be dying tomorrow.

[Agriv8r]

so you fight ghosts with it.....

[Easy Ed]

New date Sept 10th


http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2008/PR06.08E.html

[wpage]

Ghostbusters are cool.

Count me in.

Thanks for the safety reminders:grouphug:

[frenzy1]

WTF ???????

[Big Dad]

:drama: :clapping:

[KenP]

Too bad the 52 mile one wasn't built in TX. That one surely would have killed us all.:clapping:

[mdoyle]

Nothing's going to happen, although tiny black holes do form in some collider events, as soon as the energy source is removed they dissapate.

Sometimes I think they end up in my gas tank.........

[splne1]

:iagree: LOL Sometimes I think we are already to advanced for our own good in science?

[KenP]

Tuesday night, 8pm EST, History Channel:
"The Next Big Bang"

$10 bil and 40 yrs of planning and construction of the LHC, the biggest experiment in history.

TV-PG NEW

[HummerHippy]

Dr. Egon Spengler (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000601/): There's something very important I forgot to tell you.
Dr. Peter Venkman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000195/): What?
Dr. Egon Spengler (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000601/): Don't cross the streams.
Dr. Peter Venkman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000195/): Why?
Dr. Egon Spengler (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000601/): It would be bad.
Dr. Peter Venkman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000195/): I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad"?
Dr. Egon Spengler (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000601/): Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
Dr Ray Stantz (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000101/): Total protonic reversal.
Dr. Peter Venkman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000195/): Right. That's bad. Okay. All right. Important safety tip. Thanks, Egon.
Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

TOMORROW 9-10-08 they turn it on...!

Just in case...


U all ain't such bad people !

except the SCPLMF's

[Easy Ed]

Watching the History Channel (thanks KenP) show about it now, nice knowing you all :D

[splne1]

watching the show now too. Its insane!!!! this may be my final dancing banana.:dancingbanana:

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

DAM !!!

we made it.................

[Easy Ed]

Press release about CERN's test today.

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2008/PR08.08E.html

Starting up a major new particle accelerator takes much more than flipping a switch. Thousands of individual elements have to work in harmony, timings have to be synchronized to under a billionth of a second, and beams finer than a human hair have to be brought into head-on collision. Today?s success puts a tick next to the first of those steps, and over the next few weeks, as the LHC?s operators gain experience and confidence with the new machine, the machine?s acceleration systems will be brought into play, and the beams will be brought into collision to allow the research programme to begin.

[HummerHippy]

Even Google was worried today :clapping:
49546

[Easy Ed]

oops :clapping:

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

[KenP]

oops :clapping:

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.htmlLMAO!!!

[wannabeH3]

my ass sure has been beeding a lot since yesterday... maybe dirty can plug my black hole for me

[KenP]

my ass sure has been beeding a lot since yesterday... maybe dirty can plug my black hole for meWTF?!?!:notallthere:
49600

[DRTYFN]

my ass sure has been beeding a lot since yesterday... maybe dirty can plug my black hole for me
Sorry, busy with your HOT g/f.:giggling: :jump:

[Big Dad]

my ass sure has been beeding a lot since yesterday... maybe dirty can plug my black hole for me

WTF?!

I always thought you were a dude, man!

[H2Finally]

Hackers break into Large Hadron Collider computer

Posted by Elinor Mills (http://news.cnet.com/8300-1009_3-83.html?authorId=113)

Hackers broke into a computer system at CERN's Large Hadron Collider (http://news.cnet.com/2300-1008_3-6245225-1.html), targeting a system that was "one step away" from a control computer, but otherwise appear to have done no major damage, according to a report on Friday in the British newspaper The Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/earth/2008/09/12/scicern212.xml).

The system that was breached monitors the Compact Muon Solenoid Experiment, which will be analyzing data during subatomic particle collisions in the particle accelerator located along the French-Swiss border.

Experiments, which began on Wednesday (http://news.cnet.com/cerns-big-collider-now-in-action/), are designed to help scientists explore particle physics theories.

During the attack on Tuesday and Wednesday, hackers left behind half a dozen files, damaged one CERN file, and displayed a Web page with the headline "GST: Greek Security Team," signing off: "We are 2600--don't mess with us," (sic) CERN scientists told the newspaper.

As a result of the attack, the Web site--cmsmon.cern.ch--was not accessible on Friday.

Fears that the experiments could prompt natural disasters or black holes (http://news.cnet.com/dont-panic-large-hadron-collider-wont-spawn-voracious-black-holes/) that would swallow Earth have led to threatening phone calls and e-mails, CERN said.






End of the world (actual collision testing) is not till early October...

[Easy Ed]

H2Finally, Seen at the CERN site a few days before the test that they were warning thier employees not to open attachments in e-mails, looks like someone didn't listen :clapping:

Was going to post a copy of it here but the "news release" was removed by the time I got back to looking for it :(

[ROX]

Hackers break into Large Hadron Collider computer

Posted by Elinor Mills (http://news.cnet.com/8300-1009_3-83.html?authorId=113)

Hackers broke into a computer system at CERN's Large Hadron Collider (http://news.cnet.com/2300-1008_3-6245225-1.html), targeting a system that was "one step away" from a control computer, but otherwise appear to have done no major damage, according to a report on Friday in the British newspaper The Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/earth/2008/09/12/scicern212.xml).

The system that was breached monitors the Compact Muon Solenoid Experiment, which will be analyzing data during subatomic particle collisions in the particle accelerator located along the French-Swiss border.

Experiments, which began on Wednesday (http://news.cnet.com/cerns-big-collider-now-in-action/), are designed to help scientists explore particle physics theories.

During the attack on Tuesday and Wednesday, hackers left behind half a dozen files, damaged one CERN file, and displayed a Web page with the headline "GST: Greek Security Team," signing off: "We are 2600--don't mess with us," (sic) CERN scientists told the newspaper.

As a result of the attack, the Web site--cmsmon.cern.ch--was not accessible on Friday.

Fears that the experiments could prompt natural disasters or black holes (http://news.cnet.com/dont-panic-large-hadron-collider-wont-spawn-voracious-black-holes/) that would swallow Earth have led to threatening phone calls and e-mails, CERN said.






End of the world (actual collision testing) is not till early October...

WHEW! I didn't want to kiss my a$$ good bye yet!:fdance:

[Andy C]

Not really concerned - I kind of imagine that after $10 billion dollars and 40 years of R&D that they are slightly beyond "WTF happens when I flick this switch":giggling:

[Easy Ed]

Found it http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1118263?ln=en

Guess it was in August and not September though.

Recent computer attacks via Instant Messaging

Be cautious of any unexpected messages containing web links even if they appear to come from known contacts. If you happen to click on such a link and if your permission is requested to run or install software, always decline it.
Several computers at CERN have recently been broken into by attackers who have tricked users of Instant Messaging applications (e.g. MSN, Yahoo Messenger, etc.) into clicking on web links which appeared to come from known contacts. The links appeared to be photos from ?friends? and requested software to be installed. In practice, attacker software was installed and the messages did not come from real contacts. In the past such fake messages were mainly sent by email but now a wider range of applications are being targeted, including Instant Messaging.
Cybercriminals are making growing use of fake messages to try to trick you into clicking on Web links which will help them to install malicious software on your computer. Anti-virus software cannot be relied on for detecting all cases. Your vigilance is also needed.
In case of questions on this topic, you may contact helpdesk@cern.ch (helpdesk@cern.ch).
IT Department

[HummerHippy]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26802846

'Big bang machine' halted for 2 months
Damage to $10 billion particle collider is worse than previously believed

GENEVA - The world's largest atom smasher ? which was launched with great fanfare earlier this month ? has been damaged worse than previously thought and will be out of commission for at least two months, its operators said Saturday.

Experts have gone into 17-mile circular tunnel housing the Large Hadron Collider under the Swiss-French border to examine the damage that halted operations about 36 hours after its Sept. 10 startup, said James Gillies, spokesman for CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research.

"It's too early to say precisely what happened, but it seems to be a faulty electrical connection between two magnets that stopped superconducting, melted and led to a mechanical failure and let the helium out," Gillies told The Associated Press.

[Easy Ed]

Well, They are at it again :twak:

GENEVA? Scientists are preparing the world's largest atom smasher to explore the depths of matter after successfully restarting the $10 billion machine following more than a year of repairs.
When the machine is fully operational, its magnets will control the beams of protons and send them in opposite directions through two parallel tubes the size of fire hoses.
In rooms as large as cathedrals 300 feet (100 meters) under the Swiss-French border, the magnets will force them into huge detectors to record the reactions.
One goal is to unravel the mysteries of the Big Bang that many scientists theorize marked the creation of the universe billions of years ago.
The restart of the Large Hadron Collider late Friday was hailed as a significant leap forward in efforts to launch new experiments _ probably in January _ on the makeup of matter and the universe.
The machine was heavily damaged by a simple electrical fault in September last year.
The nuclear physicists working on it were surprised at how quickly they got beams of protons whizzing through the 17-mile (27-kilometer) circular tunnel underground late Friday.
"That was all wrapped up by midnight. They are going through the paces really very fast," said James Gillies, spokesman for the European Organization for Nuclear Research (http://www.rr.com/home/topicdl/dlt/00hbeJK3fAaVZ/CERN), also known by its French acronym, CERN (http://www.rr.com/home/topicdl/dlt/00hbeJK3fAaVZ/CERN).
Things went so well Friday evening that scientists achieved the operation seven hours earlier than expected, he said. Some scientists had gone home early Friday and had to be called back as the project jumped ahead, Gillies added.
Praise from scientists around the world was quick.
"I congratulate the scientists and engineers that have worked to get the LHC back up and running," said Dennis Kovar of the U.S. Department of Energy, which participates in the project. He called the machine "unprecedented in size, in complexity, and in the scope of the international collaboration that has built it over the last 15 years."
CERN decided Saturday to test all the protection equipment while there still is a very low intensity proton beam circulating in the collider. The tests will take 10 days, Gillies said.
He said CERN decided against immediately testing the collider's ability to speed up the beams to higher energy or to start with low-energy collisions that would help scientist calibrate their detection equipment.
In the meantime, CERN is using about 2,000 superconducting magnets _ some of them 15 meters (50 feet) long _ to improve control of the beams of billions of protons so they will remain tightly bunched and stay clear of sensitive equipment.
Officials said Friday evening's progress was an important step on the road toward scientific discoveries at the Large Hadron Collider, which are expected in 2010.
"We've still got some way to go before physics can begin, but with this milestone we're well on the way," CERN Director General Rolf Heuer said.
With great fanfare, CERN circulated its first beams Sept. 10, 2008. But the machine was sidetracked nine days later when a badly soldered electrical splice overheated and set off a chain of damage to the magnets and other parts of the collider.
Steve Myers, CERN's director for accelerators, said the improvements since then have made the collider a far better understood machine than it was a year ago.
It is expected soon to be running with more energy than the world's most powerful accelerator, the Tevatron at Fermilab near Chicago (http://www.rr.com/home/topicdl/dlt/07X746h6AI4bp/Chicago). It is supposed to keep ramping up to seven times the energy of Fermilab in coming years.
This will allow the collisions between protons to give insights into dark matter and what gives mass to other particles, and to show what matter was in the microseconds of rapid cooling after the Big Bang.
The Large Hadron Collider operates at nearly absolute zero temperature, colder than outer space, which allows the superconducting magnets to guide the protons most efficiently.
Physicists have used smaller, room-temperature colliders for decades to study the atom. They once thought protons and neutrons were the smallest components of the atom's nucleus, but the colliders showed that they are made of quarks and gluons and that there are other forces and particles. And scientists still have other questions about antimatter, dark matter and supersymmetry they want to answer with CERN's new collider.
The Superconducting Super Collider being built in Texas (http://www.rr.com/news/topicdl/dlt/09Po4kO2EtdEz/Texas) would have been bigger than the Large Hadron Collider, but in 1993 the U.S. Congress (http://www.rr.com/news/topicdl/dlt/0cGB6te8Bhggx/US_Congress) canceled it after costs soared and questions were raised about its scientific value.
Gillies said the Large Hadron Collider should be ramped up to 3.5 trillion electron volts some time next year, which will be 3 1/2 times as powerful as Fermilab. The two laboratories are friendly rivals, working on equipment and sharing scientists.
But each would be delighted to make the discovery of the elusive Higgs boson, the particle or field that theoretically gives mass to other particles. That is widely expected to deserve the Nobel Prize for physics.
More than 8,000 physicists from other labs around the world also have work planned for the Large Hadron Collider. The organization is run by its 20 European member nations, with support from other countries, including observers Japan, India, Russia and the U.S. that have made big contributions.