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BigPoppa1411
05-30-2008, 09:25 PM
In Miami, Spanish becoming primary language
58.5% speak Spanish; some English speakers feel marginalized
http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/ap/5f038cfe-ac1f-4c70-ad22-7c312f62b00b.hmedium.jpg (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/)Melissa Green arranges flowers at her store in Miami The flower shop owner and Miami native says her inability to speak Spanish makes it difficult to conduct business in the city.
MIAMI - Melissa Green's mother spoke Spanish, but she never learned — her father forbid it. Today, that's a frequent problem in this city where the English-speaking population is outnumbered.
The 49-year-old flower shop owner and Miami native said her inability to speak "espanol" makes it difficult to conduct business, seek help at stores and even ask directions. She finds it "frustrating."
"It makes it hard for some people to find a job because they don't speak Spanish, and I don't think that it is right," said Green, who sometimes calls a Spanish-speaking friend to translate for customers who don't speak English.
"Sometimes I think they should learn it," she said.
In many areas of Miami, Spanish has become the predominant language, replacing English in everyday life. Anyone from Latin America could feel at home on the streets, without having to pronounce a single word in English.
In stores, shopkeepers wait on their clients in Spanish. Universities offer programs for Spanish speakers. And in supermarkets, banks, restaurants — even at the post office and government offices — information is given and assistance is offered in Spanish. In Miami, doctors and nurses speak Spanish with their patients and a large portion of advertising is in Spanish. Daily newspapers and radio and television stations cater to the Hispanic public.
‘The Anglo population is leaving’
But this situation, so pleasing to Latin American immigrants, makes some English speakers feel marginalized. In the 1950s, it's estimated that more than 80 percent of Miami-Dade County residents were non-Hispanic whites. But in 2006, the Census Bureau estimates that number was only 18.5 percent, and in 2015 it is forecast to be 14 percent. Hispanics now make up about 60 percent.
"The Anglo population is leaving," said Juan Clark, a sociology professor at Miami Dade College. "One of the reactions is to emigrate toward the north. They resent the fact that (an American) has to learn Spanish in order to have advantages to work. If one doesn't speak Spanish, it's a disadvantage."
According to the Census, 58.5 percent of the county's 2.4 million residents speak Spanish — and half of those say they don't speak English well. English-only speakers make up 27.2 percent of the county's residents.
In the mainly Cuban city of Hialeah and in the Miami neighborhood of Little Havana, 94 percent of residents identified themselves as Hispanic.
Andrew Lynch, an expert on linguistics and bilingualism at the University of Miami, said that the presence of Spanish-speakers first became an issue in Miami-Dade County in the 1960s and '70s with the arrival of Cuban immigrants and intensified in the '80s with immigrants from not just Cuba, but Argentina, Venezuela and elsewhere in Latin America. The exodus of English speakers soon followed.
Difficulties for both sides
James McCleary, his wife and two children left Miami in 1987 for Vermont, where he is now a farmer. McCleary, 58, said his inability to speak Spanish made it difficult for him to find work — it once took seven months to get hired as a cook.
"The job market was very tough. It was very, very difficult," he said.
His wife, Lauren, was born and raised in Miami and they visit at least twice a year, but she feels that it's no longer her hometown.
"I don't like being there anymore. It is very, very different," she said. "I cannot live there anymore, I can't speak their language."
Nevertheless, she likes the diversity of the population of South Florida and regrets not learning Spanish in school.
Librarian Martha Phillips, 61, believes those who speak Spanish will continue to have more opportunities and she doesn't think that's necessarily fair. Phillips said she is sorry to see non-Spanish-speakers abandoning Miami, and said she's concerned that the area "will be like a branch of Latin America."
"I do resent the fact that people seem to expect that the people who live here adjust to their ways, rather than learning English and making adjustments," she said. "Obviously I don't expect an older person to learn to speak English, but younger people come in and they don't seem to make much of an effort to learn to adapt to this country and they expect us to adapt to them."
Some Spanish speakers say they have their own trouble with those who only speak English.
Mary Bravo, a 37-year-old Venezuelan business owner, moved to Miami nine years ago. She understands English but only speaks a little.
"This land is theirs. We should try to speak English," she said, "but they don't even try to understand us."
What happened to English being the primary language? This is BS! I get so pissed when I go shopping and they speak to me first in Spanish because I am Mexican? Idiots!
RubHer Yellow Ducky
05-30-2008, 10:55 PM
A lot of what was written was true...Having lived in Miami since 1951 except for time in the U.S. Coast Guard I find it difficult sometimes doing business.
I can tell you that I was VERY SUCESSFUL in the businesses I was in. If you know your "CHIT" better then everyone else in your field you don't have to "speakie de language". The only problem is the other 99% of the smucks do need to learn it.
It is one of the reasons I want to leave the area but I will tell you it is low on the list.
I can tell you Miami (southeast florida, miami, ft lauderdale, the keys) is a melting pot of many cultures and it gives you a very large variety of things to do...
Also there are different versions of spanish with words having different meanings. The best example is the word Papaya. To most spanish speaking people it is a tropical fruit but in cuban spanish it means Pussy and not the cat version. The cubans call it fruta bomba...
OH !
BTW
2 homes for sale in Miami contact me for details
RubHer Yellow Ducky
05-31-2008, 09:17 PM
Subject: The South Florida "Code"
THE SOUTH FLORIDA CODE
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>When giving directions in South Florida , you should always start with
>the words, Take I-95 . . .
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> If you're a snowbird or a non-working retiree, you absolutely cannot
>drive between the hours of 6am and 10am and 4pm and 7pm. This is considered to be rush hour and you're not in any rush. No exceptions.
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>Some roads just stop for no reason and then start again: Congress Avenue , Lyons Road,Jog Road.
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> Freeways can only go north and south. Not east and west..
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>A1A and ALT A1A are the same streets.
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> Traffic Lights aren't timed and never will be.
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> We measure the distance you travel in time not miles.
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> If you travel more than 5-10 miles on any road in South Florida WI thout seeing an orange Bob's Barricade, you're lost!
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> If you miss your exit on I-95, its perfectly acceptable to back up.
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> Once the light turns green, only 3 cars can go through the
>intersection.Eight more go through on yellow and 4 on red.
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>Know the difference between Sun Pass , Sun Fest, Sun-Sentinel, and Sun Trust..
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> Flip flops, tank tops and baggy shorts are also known as business
>casual.
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> Your blinker means nothing.
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> English is our second language.
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> It is perfectly acceptable to brag about the size of your generator.
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> It is totally acceptable to be living in South Florida but not root for
>The Dolphins, The Marlins, The Heat or The Panthers.
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> We have alligators here in South Florida and they WILL bite you. Don't be stupid and try to feed or pet one.
>
>Clematis is a street not a disease.
>> When a hurricane is headed our way, even though you have advanced warning and you are told to be prepared, you're not a true Floridian unless you wait until the absolute last minute to go to Home Depot to pick up plywood or to Publix to stock up water, ice, beer, and potato chips.
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>You know how to spell Okeechobee.
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> Do NOT buy a boat. Make friends with someone who already owns a boat
>That way you don't have to deal with the headaches.
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>There is an Okeechobee blvd, street, avenue, town, lake and county.
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> You weren't born here. If you were, you're angry that everyone else
>moved here.
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>There's always a Walgreens across the street from a CVS on almost every corner - with more being built every day.
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>When picking up a woman on South Beach,always look for an Adams apple.
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> It's normal to sweat when you are putting up your holiday decorations.
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>Jup i ter is a city, not a planet.
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>Seniors have to do their errands during the weekdays. Not weeknights or weekends - that's for the working folks.
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>There are three types of dolphins: Mahi-mahi, flipper, and also one
>called a football team.
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>You can't say; "this is how we did it up north", if you think that way,
>then go back.
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>No matter what they decide in Tallahassee you will never be able to
>figure out your property taxes.
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>Learn how to dress in layers. It will be 95 degrees outside but inside
>any restaurant or business it's 65 degrees.
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>There are three things you will need to survive a south Florida winter:
>A long sleeved T-shirt, sunscreen and restaurant reservations that you make at least three weeks in advance.
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> The same neighbor who smiles at you every day will be the first one to rat you out if you are violating water restriction s.
Agriv8r
06-01-2008, 01:21 AM
no hoblay.....
3Hummer
06-01-2008, 03:27 AM
and dont forget, your neighbors are jsut there to be friends with during the aftermath of a hurricane, after that its back to the shunning.
3Hummer
06-01-2008, 03:28 AM
ps when i was in Miami last weekend, i was getting in my car some women asked me if i was getting out in spanish, my answer was a very hasteful "what i only speak english sorry" and she drove off
Hmmm2
06-01-2008, 07:15 AM
This is the very reason we left Miami. I was sick and tired of people insisting I was Cuban (no hispanic blood in me) and speaking to me in Cuban Spanish. And when I told them I didn't speak Spanish, they'd ask me why I was denying it! True! LOL. The food labels on meat packages in the stores were first written in Spanish with English underneath. I couldn't get used to people pronouncing CHurch .. shursh, and CHair ... shair. And lastly, I taught school in Coral Gables briefly ... but when my 1st graders all spoke English as a 2nd language, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE BORN IN THE U.S. .. I decided it was time to move. :crying:
DennisAJC
06-01-2008, 07:28 AM
The human race is doomed.
RubHer Yellow Ducky
06-01-2008, 01:51 PM
This is the very reason we left Miami. I was sick and tired of people insisting I was Cuban (no hispanic blood in me) and speaking to me in Cuban Spanish. And when I told them I didn't speak Spanish, they'd ask me why I was denying it! True! LOL. The food labels on meat packages in the stores were first written in Spanish with English underneath. I couldn't get used to people pronouncing CHurch .. shursh, and CHair ... shair. And lastly, I taught school in Coral Gables briefly ... but when my 1st graders all spoke English as a 2nd language, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE BORN IN THE U.S. .. I decided it was time to move. :crying:
Where did you shop? I KNOW it wasn't PUBLIX or WD...
for sale...2 homes in miami- dade county !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RubHer Yellow Ducky
06-01-2008, 01:58 PM
This is the very reason we left Miami. I was sick and tired of people insisting I was Cuban (no hispanic blood in me) and speaking to me in Cuban Spanish. And when I told them I didn't speak Spanish, they'd ask me why I was denying it! True! LOL. The food labels on meat packages in the stores were first written in Spanish with English underneath. I couldn't get used to people pronouncing CHurch .. shursh, and CHair ... shair. And lastly, I taught school in Coral Gables briefly ... but when my 1st graders all spoke English as a 2nd language, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE BORN IN THE U.S. .. I decided it was time to move. :crying:
Hmmmmmmmmmmm,
Did your husband use to work for FPL and then move to CA and work for a railroad ?
Hmmm2
06-01-2008, 08:04 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmm,
Did your husband use to work for FPL and then move to CA and work for a railroad ?
What? :confused:
Hmmm2
06-01-2008, 08:06 PM
Where did you shop? I KNOW it wasn't PUBLIX or WD...
for sale...2 homes in miami- dade county !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I only shopped at Publix .. the one in the Suniland Shopping Center when I lived in Kendall ... and the Publix in Coral Gables when I lived in Coral Gables. Are you JOKING?!?!?!?!?! LOL?!?!
RubHer Yellow Ducky
06-01-2008, 08:57 PM
I only shopped at Publix .. the one in the Suniland Shopping Center when I lived in Kendall ... and the Publix in Coral Gables when I lived in Coral Gables. Are you JOKING?!?!?!?!?! LOL?!?!
PUBLIX has NEVER had the spanish name for a cut of meat bigger then the english name...BTW the PUBLIX in Suniland is gone, now its a Wild Oats...have lived here since 1951 and for the pass 33 years a little south of Suniland...
Wanna buy a home here in South Dade? Make you a nice deal...
The reason I asked if you were a certain person is that I had a friend who taught at Coral Gables Elem and moved to CA...
RubHer Yellow Ducky
06-01-2008, 09:18 PM
Good.....Good..bamboo flooring (http://www.bambwood.com)
THIS
GUY
IS
A
SPAMMER
Big Dad
06-02-2008, 12:45 AM
Hmmmmmmmmmmm,
Did your husband use to work for FPL and then move to CA and work for a railroad ?
What? :confused:
Watch out there Hmmm2, I read RYD lines like this before...next thing he'll be wanting to see your wares or asking for you to send him pictures of yourself "el-fresco."
:)
RubHer Yellow Ducky
06-02-2008, 01:56 AM
Watch out there Hmmm2, I read RYD lines like this before...next thing he'll be wanting to see your wares or asking for you to send him pictures of yourself "el-fresco."
:)
HEY MAN !!! don't give away all my secrets...
Hmmm2
06-02-2008, 04:13 AM
Watch out there Hmmm2, I read RYD lines like this before...next thing he'll be wanting to see your wares or asking for you to send him pictures of yourself "el-fresco."
:)
LOLOLOLOLOL! I thought so, Big Dad. :giggling: FPL and then the railroad?? LOLOL. Nope, not us. LOL.
This could have been solved by our Founding Fathers by designating English as our official language. It could have been solved years ago by politicians by writing a simple bill.
It can't be solved today because the Latin vote is seen as too important to risk losing.
Politicians are weak kneed and afraid to do anything of any real substance. If a democrap is elected president next, the wall construction along the southern border will cease. Everyone will be granted "rights" they already have, but they'll be made special using language that will designate many different ETHNICITIES as having rights. Whites will be left out of these special rights.
It's a slippery slope and we're too far down it to turn back without someone with ginormous brass ones to lead the way.
http://www.proenglish.org/index.html
See how you federal representative fares on thi issue:
http://www.us-english.org/view/334
It should be noted the language issue is being handles on the state level in many cases. why the state level? They're the ones that have to pay for all the dual language learning material, voting material, road signs, etc.
Virginia House Bill:
English as the official language of the Commonwealth. States that, except as provided by federal law, English is the official language of the Commonwealth, and no state agency or local government shall provide or otherwise assist in providing any documents, information, literature, or other written materials in any language other than English. The bill provides exceptions to this general rule for any documents, information, literature, or other written materials in a language other than English used in connection with foreign language instruction, administration of justice in the courts of the Commonwealth, law-enforcement purposes, or the provision of health care services.
LR wolf
06-02-2008, 03:54 PM
Want to solve it,
white people need to have more kids, plain and simple
when you guys see minorities move in you run away, and move farther away from the cities, then you only have at most on average two kids, where non-whites have three to five,
of course your being taken over, you gave up the territory, and your not replacing the population, not to mention your genes are recessive, so when you have kids with someone who is not white, they loose your characteristics,
sorry, you guys just arent made to exist much longer:violin:
Welcome to the new face of Amewrica
RubHer Yellow Ducky
06-02-2008, 07:14 PM
Want to solve it,
white people need to have more kids, plain and simple
when you guys see minorities move in you run away, and move farther away from the cities, then you only have at most on average two kids, where non-whites have three to five,
of course your being taken over, you gave up the territory, and your not replacing the population, not to mention your genes are recessive, so when you have kids with someone who is not white, they loose your characteristics,
sorry, you guys just arent made to exist much longer:violin:
Welcome to the new face of Amewrica
WOOF !
I take it you are a minority...do you mind sharing and telling us from which minority group you belong to ?
Being a minority is not a bad thing, this country is made up from them...
Are you Persian ?
Want to solve it,
white people need to have more kids, plain and simple
when you guys see minorities move in you run away, and move farther away from the cities, then you only have at most on average two kids, where non-whites have three to five,
of course your being taken over, you gave up the territory, and your not replacing the population, not to mention your genes are recessive, so when you have kids with someone who is not white, they loose your characteristics,
sorry, you guys just arent made to exist much longer:violin:
Welcome to the new face of AmewricaLet's see where to start, ok, at the beginning.
Of course we ran from the inner cities. Who the hell would want to live around pimps, thugs, and crack whores having kids just so they can support their drug habits and get a welfare check.. or two or five..?
So sure we gave up the inner cities, but if you look at most of the progressive large cities, you'll see a rebirth. Why? Because these cities see how they are failing because the current population is unable to support the city. They're uneducated, earn no money and only take from the system. They're parasites that drain the life out of the cities. The only way to come back to life for these metro areas is to drive out the poverty stricken and redevelop by pushing the low lifes of all three races to the margins. It's been done for years and it will continue for years.
You also mention recessive genes. I'm sure all the african decendant males are thinking just that when they're hooking up with some fat nasty ass white chick that no white guy would have.:clapping:
"Amewrica" Is that eubonics?
LR wolf
06-02-2008, 08:29 PM
Let's see where to start, ok, at the beginning.
Of course we ran from the inner cities. Who the hell would want to live around pimps, thugs, and crack whores having kids just so they can support their drug habits and get a welfare check.. or two or five..?
So sure we gave up the inner cities, but if you look at most of the progressive large cities, you'll see a rebirth. Why? Because these cities see how they are failing because the current population is unable to support the city. They're uneducated, earn no money and only take from the system. They're parasites that drain the life out of the cities. The only way to come back to life for these metro areas is to drive out the poverty stricken and redevelop by pushing the low lifes of all three races to the margins. It's been done for years and it will continue for years.
You also mention recessive genes. I'm sure all the african decendant males are thinking just that when they're hooking up with some fat nasty ass white chick that no white guy would have.:clapping:
"Amewrica" Is that eubonics?
Hey Ducky, i'm black with Scottish, and Jamaican heratige
the argument above makes no sense at all, other then a bit of name calling you didnt refute anything i said:yawn:
RubHer Yellow Ducky
06-02-2008, 08:53 PM
Hey Ducky, i'm black with Scottish, and Jamaican heratige
the argument above makes no sense at all, other then a bit of name calling you didnt refute anything i said:yawn:
Hey Mon, me and Bobby M took a couple of hits together one time...
Scotch Jamaican, that sound cool !
I don't really think the "WHITE" gene is recessive but I'll do some checking and get back to you in a week or 2, after I talk to a Genetics Professor I know...
The term "White Flight" is a possible reasonbut i'm sure there are others...
By the way as we get futher into this discussion, PLEASE don't (and i know you haven't) rely on the minority word.
Being a HEBREW I think I lay a better claim to the minority word then 99% of the worlds population of people who can read and write...The new found tribe in Brazil don't have a written language yet...
more to follow...
LR wolf
06-02-2008, 09:09 PM
Hey Mon, me and Bobby M took a couple of hits together one time...
Scotch Jamaican, that sound cool !
I don't really think the "WHITE" gene is recessive but I'll do some checking and get back to you in a week or 2, after I talk to a Genetics Professor I know...
The term "White Flight" is a possible reasonbut i'm sure there are others...
By the way as we get futher into this discussion, PLEASE don't (and i know you haven't) rely on the minority word.
Being a HEBREW I think I lay a better claim to the minority word then 99% of the worlds population of people who can read and write...The new found tribe in Brazil don't have a written language yet...
more to follow...
Well said,
not sure who Bobby M is, but i'll half a Haggis with you any day :)
RubHer Yellow Ducky
06-02-2008, 11:52 PM
Well said,
not sure who Bobby M is "BOB MARLEY" is, but i'll half a Haggis with you any day :)
Haggis is a traditional Scottish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland) dish.
There are many recipes, most of which have in common the following ingredients:sheep (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep)'s 'pluck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offal)' (heart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart), liver (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver) and lungs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lung)), minced (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minced) with onion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion), oatmeal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oatmeal),suet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suet), spices (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice), and salt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edible_salt), mixed with stock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_%28food%29), and traditionally boiled (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling) in the animal's stomach (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stomach) for approximately three hours.
Haggis somewhat resembles stuffed intestines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intestine) (pig intestines otherwise known as chitterlings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chitterlings) or the kokoretsi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kokoretsi) of traditional Greek cuisine), sausages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sausage) and savoury puddings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pudding) of which it is among the largest types. As the 2001 English edition of the Larousse Gastronomique (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larousse_Gastronomique) puts it, "Although its description is not immediately appealing, haggis has an excellent nutty texture and delicious savoury flavour." (p592)
Most modern commercial haggis is prepared in a casing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casing_%28sausage%29) rather than an actual stomach. There are also meat-free recipes for vegetarians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarian).
It is often asserted (e.g., on the packaging of MacSween's haggis) that the dish is traditionally served with "neeps and tatties" (Scots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language): swede, yellow turnip or rutabaga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutabaga) and potatoes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potatoes); these are boiled and mashed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mashed_potato) separately) and a "dram" (ie. a glass of Scotch whisky). However, it might perhaps be more accurate to describe this as the traditional main course of a Burns supper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burns_supper), since on other occasions haggis may be eaten with other accompaniments. Whisky sauce (made from thickened stock and Scotch whisky) has recently been developed as an elegant addition.
NO MY FRIEND, I'll let you share it with Dirty or Dennis...
Altho
I might share the Vegetarian version with you...
Hey Ducky, i'm black with Scottish, and Jamaican heratige
the argument above makes no sense at all, other then a bit of name calling you didnt refute anything i said:yawn:I didn't try to refute anything you said, I just pointed out why it's so.:notallthere:
RubHer Yellow Ducky
06-06-2008, 01:49 PM
Want to solve it,
white people need to have more kids, plain and simple
when you guys see minorities move in you run away, and move farther away from the cities, then you only have at most on average two kids, where non-whites have three to five,
of course your being taken over, you gave up the territory, and your not replacing the population, not to mention your genes are recessive, so when you have kids with someone who is not white, they loose your characteristics,
sorry, you guys just arent made to exist much longer:violin:
Welcome to the new face of Amewrica
HEY LR, thought you might like this...
A "Black" Man, A Moor, John Hanson
http://www.dickgregory.com/image/JohnHanson.gif
Was the First President of the United States! 1781-1782 A.D.???
George Washington was really the 8th President of the United States!
George Washington was not the first President of the United States. In fact, the first President of the United States was one John Hanson. Don't go checking the encyclopedia for this guy's name - he is one of those great men that are lost to history. If you're extremely lucky, you may actually find a brief mention of his name.
The new country was actually formed on March 1, 1781 with the adoption of The Articles of Confederation.
This document was actually proposed on June 11, 1776, but not agreed upon by Congress until November 15, 1777. Maryland refused to sign this document until Virginia and New York ceded their western lands (Maryland was afraid that these states would gain too much power in the new government from such large amounts of land).
Once the signing took place in 1781, a President was needed to run the country. John Hanson was chosen unanimously by Congress (which included George Washington). In fact, all the other potential candidates refused to run against him, as he was a major player in the revolution and an extremely influential member of Congress.
As the first President, Hanson had quite the shoes to fill. No one had ever been President and the role was poorly defined. His actions in office would set precedent for all future Presidents.
He took office just as the Revolutionary War ended. Almost immediately, the troops demanded to be paid. As would be expected after any long war, there were no funds to meet the salaries. As a result, the soldiers threatened to overthrow the new government and put Washington on the throne as a monarch.
All the members of Congress ran for their lives, leaving Hanson as the only guy left running the government. He somehow managed to calm the troops down and hold the country together. If he had failed, the government would have fallen almost immediately and everyone would have been bowing to King Washington. In fact, Hanson sent 800 pounds of sterling siliver by his brother Samuel Hanson to George Washington to provide the troops with shoes.
Hanson, as President, ordered all foreign troops off American soil, as well as the removal of all foreign flags. This was quite the feat, considering the fact that so many European countries had a stake in the United States since the days following Columbus.
Hanson established the Great Seal of the United States, which all Presidents have since been required to use on all official documents.
President Hanson also established the first Treasury Department, the first Secretary of War, and the first Foreign Affairs Department.
Lastly, he declared that the fourth Thursday of every November was to be Thanksgiving Day, which is still true today.
The Articles of Confederation only allowed a President to serve a one year term during any three year period, so Hanson actually accomplished quite a bit in such little time.
Six other presidents were elected after him - Elias Boudinot (1783), Thomas Mifflin (1784), Richard Henry Lee (1785), Nathan Gorman (1786), Arthur St. Clair (1787), and Cyrus Griffin (1788) - all prior to Washington taking office.
So what happened?
Why don't we ever hear about the first seven Presidents of the United States?
It's quite simple - The Articles of Confederation didn't work well. The individual states had too much power and nothing could be agreed upon.
A new doctrine needed to be written - something we know as the Constitution.
And that leads us to the end of our story.
George Washington was definitely not the first President of the United States. He was the first President of the United States under the Constitution we follow today.
And the first seven Presidents are forgotten in history.
RubHer Yellow Ducky
06-06-2008, 01:58 PM
P: Negroid genes aren't "recessive" but "dominant", and that results in the very opposite of what you're saying. When the negro mates with caucasoid or mongoloid the child comes out resembling the negro, because the negro genes are dominant. The "older" genes (as you state) of the negro cause the disappearance of the caucasoid and mongoloid. Isn't this one of the key driving forces for white supremacy and the preservation of their race?
>This proves that the pure Negroid genes:
-skin "black as night"
-hair that will "break" and fall off at a certain length
-extra thick and big lips to absorb humidity in the air
-flat but wide nose to help move air to the lungs to "cool down" the body
P: This is a stereotype.
>this proves that these pure "Negroid" genes to be, occuring later and after the other Racial type genes, as an improvement to better adapt to the changing climate of Africa...as it started to heat up after the last Glacial Ice Age.
P: Hold on, Africans stayed in Africa from their origin until roughly 80,000 B.C....isn't that correct? That's what you have said previously, that migrations from African began 80K B.C. and that's what science says. There weren't "other people" else where on the planet prior to this...correct? The last glacial epoch started in 70,000 B.C. and ended around 10,000 B.C....correct? It was those who had left between 80K and 70K that became trapped behind the glaciers...correct? There was no "adaptation to changing climate in Africa", Africa was, is and always will be hot, until this world ends. You're sticking to a false premise regarding African climate.
>If the pure Negroid genes, as described earlier, were indeed the original Physical traits of the first "Anatomically modern" humans. than wouldn't it stand to reason, that the mixture of the Negroid gene with any other type of racial genes, forever erase that original Negroid genes?...As a reflective proof to the Laws of Natural selection?
P: HELL NO! In fact the opposite has been the case. Again, the Negro gene is "dominant" and erases characteristics in other races...this is a fact and the reality. Maybe I don't understand what you mean here...provide me an example of how Negroid genes are erased when a negro and any other race mix? I mean I see where a white and black mix, the child is no longer white...we call them "mulattos" correct? But, I haven't seen a pure white child (blue eyed and blond) come from a true negro and white mating.
>If the Negroid gene is indeed the oldest...than the mixing of such Negroid racial features with, for example, the Caucasoid gene...should result in a dominate "white" offspring?...Since, according Afro-centrist ideology...Negroids genes came first...
P: Again you've got this completely backwards. Negro is the original human, people of color, absent of all "recessive" traits. White's picked up "recessive" traits from being in "colder" climates. Therefore, when they mix back with the negro, who possesses the original and dominant traits, the "mulatto" is produced...melanin begins to produce color again. Do you understand this?
>the stronger the genes...the newer and later these racial genes should be...to aid in adaptation...of later occuring and changing enviroments...
P: You're wrong. The Negro gene had all the adaptability it needed to deal with the various climates. But, when mutations occur, as from prolonged exposure to a particular climate (like cold, for instance), "natural selection" takes away from the original gene quality in favor of traits needed for survival in the current environment. Problem is, once that happens, it's hard to get back to the original state.
>The history and order of the climaic changes of this planet is...reflected on it's many different faces...of the many different racial types...
P: This is true, the colder it gets the lighter people get. Man originated in the heat and much later moved to the cold, and then came whites and other races...correct?
>These people are the living proof that Caucasian genes are the most recessive...and therefore the oldest.
P: You got half of it right, caucasian genes are the most recessive, but science contradicts you on the idea that this implies they are the oldest. Where do you get this from?
>Negroid genes the strongest...and therefore the newest and latest human, physical evolutionary changes of improvements...
P: Again, where are you getting this from? Negroid genes? There are no "negroid" genes...that's a racist remark. Everyone has the same genes. Being able to darken in light and get lighter in the dark/cold, is the normal behavior of genes. This is the "oldest" gene. But, the problem is that once those genes go through great and extreme change (i.e. melanin production is totally suppressed) it's difficult, nearly impossible to get it to produce color again. You sit in the sun and you tan/burn...but alas, it peels off. This is the melanin cell's attempt at normal functioning.
>FOR THE NEGROID GENE TO BE THE OLDEST...THESE PEOPLE NEED TO BE UNMISTAKENLY WHITE...OR ASIAN...ARE THEY?:
-Tiger Woods: father black, mother asian
-Colln Powell: Scottish and negroid
-Maria Carey: father black, mother white
-Lenny Kravitz: father jewish, mother black
P: No, they follow the scientific method advanced by Mendel's Law. Tiger is darker than his Asian mother. Colin is darker than his Scottish parent, Maria is darker than her white mother, Lenny is darker than his jewish father. The melanian producing cell apparent in black people is a genetically dominant trait and a normal functioning of that cell/genes. Do you understand what "recessive" and "dominant" mean in regard to genetic science...here's the definition:
genetic dominant
adj.
Of, relating to, or characteristic of a pattern of inheritance of an autosomal trait that is expressed by a gene that ALWAYS manifests itself phenotypically
(In other words, the genetic dominant trait will always manifest itself in mating)
Note that you can't search and find "genetic recessive" on goggle, it takes you to "mutations" and "disorders". Recessive genes are not normal...and as such could never be the original condition of man. Now, I'm inclined to allow you your conceptions, considering you're speaking from your own experience. To you, since you are recessive, you're inclined to think that must be "normal" and the way things have always been. But, this is part of the delusion that characterizes the Racist mind. For you own salvation, and that of your offspring, it is important that you know the truth and make decisions that would lead to your successful existance, among normal people, for ever. As long as you make yourself the center of reality, it's no better than a mule trying to say the same...it's a short lived existence.
RubHer Yellow Ducky
06-06-2008, 02:05 PM
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