Hummer Brand being Discontinued??

[jeremymb23]

Not trying to start any rumors, but has anybody else heard this? According to an article on Yahoo Finance, Rick Wagoner is claiming that the Hummer brand may be discontinued along with the closing down of 4 truck and SUV plants in North America. http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080603/gm_shareholders.html?.v=5

[HummerHippy]

Yup, just came across this speculation as well...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24947044

General Motors said Tuesday it will close four truck and SUV plants in the U.S., Canada and Mexico as surging fuel prices hasten a dramatic shift to smaller vehicles

CEO Rick Wagoner said before the automaker's annual meeting it will cease production at a full-size pickup factory in Oshawa, Ontario. It also will stop making SUVs at factories in Moraine, Ohio, and Janesville, Wis., and it will stop making mid-size pickups in Toluca, Mexico.

He also said the Hummer brand may be discontinued.

But he doesnt mention Lousiana - where the 3 is built . :)

[wpage]

Dont believe the hype. The H2 is gone. Thats all...

[hummer.dad]

Just read the MSN article as well. :crying: I sure hope this is not true. Can't imagine with the H3T, possible changes to H3 drivetrain and the HX Concept they would just do away with the whole brand.

[chisox05]

Well on CNN their aticle said GM is looking into selling the brand which would make more economic sense after they just invested in tooling up for the H3T and updating the drivetrain to the 3.6V6 for the 2010 H3. The H2 will be discontinued almost sure of that in the next few years. GM will not kill the Hummer brand with all they put into it in just the last couple years. They may sell it which may be as bad as discontinuing Hummer depending who buys it and what they do to Hummer.
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200806030900DOWJONESDJONLINE000244_FORTUNE5.htm

[Mudd]

Sign of the times, my friends! :crying: :crying: :crying:
Go here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24947044

[CWS]

Hummer division being sold to Mercedes Smart division. A few changes will be made, hence the 2011 HUMMette :
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/1681/smartforfun3gp3.jpg

Cliff

[Spuds]

No doubt the H2 is history. It is becoming more and more of a luxury to drive a large vehicle, and not enough people will be buying H2's to justify their production.

GM should be able to keep the Hummer line relevant by having a diesel option in the H3/H3T and producing that hybrid HX.

[Big Dad]

Dont believe the hype. The H2 is gone. Thats all...

Poke it with a fork, it's done....

[Lex_Ordo]

I first heard the news this morning while on a visit to the dealer. I was stopping in to say hello, and pick up some new straight dual wall exhaust tips. I am getting tired of the slanted ones.

Was very suprised to hear the news! :confused:

I was told that there is a meeting/ conference this afternoon, with GM, and the dealerships. That can't be good.:eek:

Oh well. I guess it will become a collector's car in a few years.
The "1" already is, the "2" was on it's way with the end of production in 2011, and now the "3" will folow suit, and be part of "2". Looks like it will be sooner than later.
I'm glad I got my first model year.

[RazM]

What a bunch of fools, instead of getting the HX to market quicker, they're considering killing the brand.

I thought GM was going to see that offroad vehicles will always be in demand, and take this opportunity to be one of the few companies still selling 4WD's.

If anyone at GM reads this, here's a tip. Smaller, fuel efficient, yet still the most capable offroad machine available. GUESS WHAT, that will equal sales!

Gas prices are an excuse, and there's no way they can rise too much more without destroying the economy. Something will have to give, and it's not going to be the people.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Just heard on BBC America that Chrysler (Jeep) may be purchasing the HUMMER Brand...

[nychot]

On the Hummer, Wagoner said GM is ?undertaking a strategic review of the Hummer brand, to determine its fit with GM?s evolving product portfolio? in light of changing market conditions.

?At this point, we are considering all options for the Hummer brand... everything from a complete revamp of the product lineup to partial or complete sale of the brand,? he said.

[Lex_Ordo]

If this is what they are saying publicly, then a decision has already been made privately.

* Rule #1 in administration; Put out a public statement to insure there are no claims that something was done under the table, but in reality the decision was already made. The statement is nothing more than a smoke screen.

My bet is that they discontinue the line.

[Desert Dan]

If they discontinue the Hummer line I guess I'll buy a Jeep JK if Chrysler still makes Jeeps or buy a Toyota?

By the time I need a new truck I wonder if there will be any of the Big 3 left in the USA?

[stagger_lee]

That would be cool if they cancel all together. Our rigs would sit in the market along with other famous 4x4 limited build, limited years, desired rides, ie: Jeep CJ8 Scrambler, Land Rover Defender 90, etc. then again maybe not, considering every soccer mom and mall whor3 in america owns one and they made 50 million of em. nevermind.

[Big Dad]

That would be cool if they cancel all together. Our rigs would sit in the market along with other famous 4x4 limited build, limited years, desired rides, ie: Jeep CJ8 Scrambler, Land Rover Defender 90, etc. then again maybe not, considering every soccer mom and mall whor3 in america owns one and they made 50 million of em. nevermind.

Mall whore & Soccer moms = rolling used parts bins!

[stagger_lee]

:clapping:

[Desert Dan]

People better buy a spare H3 for a "parts truck"

[killian]

Good Reading:

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/gm_introduces_new_2008_line_of

[Huck BB62]

Y'know, it's just lame that GM can't pull their collective bohemouth heads out of their arses. You could pick ten folks off of this forum and we'd have an H3 put together that would keep Shreveport open for many years to come.

Where's the diesel 4.5 that'll give the H3 25mpg for instance?

Even all that given, the best GM can do for a great econo car is the stinkin' Aveo made in South frickin' Korea!?!?:soapbox:

I don't get it. I really don't get it. All that college education, Ivy League buuuulllllsheot and they couldn't find their nose with a mirror.

Why I outta....

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

how would you like to be a HUMMER Dealer who just completed his/her new HUMMER Showroom not connected to the Caddy Showroom...

[Hummer Guy]

how would you like to be a HUMMER Dealer who just completed his/her new HUMMER Showroom not connected to the Caddy Showroom...

I think there's 32 of those...

[Huck BB62]

how would you like to be a HUMMER Dealer who just completed his/her new HUMMER Showroom not connected to the Caddy Showroom...

My dealership would be one of those. Kinda neat how GM sold 'em on that eh? They said it's almost enough to make them start selling Hyundais or Kias!

[HummerMann]

At least my dealership, North Bay Hummer, has Cadillac to fall back on, but how about dealers like Lynch in the Midwest, arguably the largest Hummer only dealership in size, first they loose the H1 now this, - the same goes for Sewell Hummer in Dallas, some of the most knowledgeable Hummer people around. I've visited these two dealerships in my travels and drooled the times I was there over their inventory. These two dealers alone have millons invested in their facilities and many long time employees. Both have some of the original AMG people. What will GM do for them? What will they do for us if they drastically scale back the Hummer? My biggest concern is where will I go for warranty work and how well will these people know a Hummer from an Escalade? I'm with DRTYFN, maybe we'd all be better off if they sold it back to AMG.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

This thread has started to go serious...rightfully so...maybe we should start to organized or brainstorm as a group to try and foresee what might happen and how WE as a group might excert our collected power to make sure IF something happens negatively to the HUMMER line that we are protected...

Its possible if things go SOUTH that we have no power to do SQUAT !

BUT

maybe we do...

any organzational people here who can advise us ? (or are we/I just pissin in the wind)

never hurts to prepare...

[H3 Builder]

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[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

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June 06, 2008 New Delhi, 06 June 2008: After the acquisition of Jaguar and Land Rover, Indian auto companies rank high in the global M&A pecking order. Merchant bankers are learnt to have approached both the Tatas and Mahindras for General Motors’ (GM) iconic brand, Hummer.
The all-American SUV and pick-up brand, which is often associated with both US military might and sheer Hollywood style machismo, is up for sale as announced by top GM executives earlier this week.
According to auto industry sources, the successful completion of the Jaguar and Land Rover deal has turned the Tatas into hot property in the auto deal beat. Mahindra and Mahindra (M&M), which was also in the fray for the two Brit brands, is the other Indian company that merchant bankers are approaching. Neither company has reportedly taken a definitive decision on the deal yet.
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It also announced that it is looking at all possibilities for its Hummer brand, including a complete sale. General Motors CEO, Rick Wagoner, said, "At this point, we are considering all options for the Hummer brand, everything from a complete revamp of the product line up to a complete sale of the brand."
The move, along with a sharper focus on its electric concept Volt, are a reaction to gas prices and increasing mileage consciousness in the US.
Although an iconic brand, the Hummer has turned into a bit of a hot potato of late thanks to a variety of reasons. Even its most ardent admirer, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who at one point defied Hollywood’s hybrid obsession to own a fleet of Hummers, has now given them up.
Its gas-guzzling image does not sit well at a time when oil prices are going through the roof and everyone in the industry is chanting mileage.
Also, its association with the US military makes it a politically incorrect brand. However, in terms of brand recall, it is one of the strongest in the GM bouquet.
According to analysts, the Hummer could be a good option for both the Tatas and Mahindras, provided the price is attractive. Since both companies have a strong SUV presence and global ambitions, this could be a nice fit if the negative brand associations are taken care of.
The Hummer recorded a 35% drop in sales in the first half of this calendar year. Last year, it saw an over 20% drop in sales. Hummers account for just 1% of GM’s total sales.
The boxy SUV has military genes that go back to the early 80s. Its civilian avatar came a decade later when AM General introduced it.
GM bought the Hummer brand in 1999, following which it has launched two new products-the H1 and H2.

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[Big Dad]

I've studied Tata in an upper level business management class and I wouldn't underestimate it - it's tougher than it looks. Who'd of thought that a company from there would have been able to do what it has thus far.

:popcorn:

[Spuds]

Selling off the Hummer line would be just another short-sighted, bone-headed move by GM, not to mention downright un-American. :notallthere:

I'll never buy another GM product if they do. :mad:

[6pack]

Does anyone know what has happened to Jaguar and Land Rover since their purchase?

[HummerHippy]

Does anyone know what has happened to Jaguar and Land Rover since their purchase?
I havent heard anything. But I am thinking it's too early. That purchase can't be more than a few months ago.

[Dave92270]

GM should not be allowed to sell Hummer brand overseas (particularly not to place like that :mad: ) - the prestige of our country will get further beating. I know GM is losing money with Hummer right now, but since Hummer sales account only for very small portion of GM total sales, they should tweak the brand but keep it alive, and definitely here. Maybe sell it to another US company with domestic manufacturing plants would be an option, but not overseas. However it's probably not very realistic to expect that someone will prevent GM to do with Hummer brand whatever they want. But, if that company buys Hummer, I'll feel like smacked into the face. Next time someone may decide that NASA space program could be completely outsourced to asia or even sold to expanding 3rd world manufacturer.

Sorry got carried away :rant:

[HummerJim]

Is an H4 on the design boards, or is this the much talked about HX? Sounds to me like a lot is riding on the H3T.
http://www.hummerguy.net/category/hummer-news

http://hummersonline.blogspot.com/

[Spuds]

GM should not be allowed to sell Hummer brand overseas

They can do what they want.

Our job should be to let them know the ramifications if they do...... :mad:

[Big Dad]

Does anyone know what has happened to Jaguar and Land Rover since their purchase?

Yeah, I see tons of Jaguars and Land Rovers on the streets of Seattle.

:giggling:

[Hummer Guy]

Is an H4 on the design boards, or is this the much talked about HX? Sounds to me like a lot is riding on the H3T.
http://www.hummerguy.net/category/hummer-news


H4 is supposedly the production model of the HX, which would be the next vehicle out after the H3T...The H3T, in my opinion, isn't a brand-saver - although I think the H4 could be - but they need to get it to market very soon, which is unlikely.

[H3 Builder]

Yeah, I see tons of Jaguars and Land Rovers on the streets of Seattle.

:giggling:

The sale wasn't final until 6-1-08. Very little time to see a difference.