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nychot
08-22-2008, 03:20 PM
the wall street journal reported today that gm has started formal talks with those who have lined up to buy the hummer brand. the paper says that the revenue from the sale will be put into the production of small, fuel efficient cars. i'm just hoping that when my lease with gmac is up in february i'll be able to buy my 07 h3 lux at a true fire sale price.

Minuteman1636
08-22-2008, 05:51 PM
I hope it is someone American that buys the brand. I'm sure it won't be though.:mad:

My dream is that AM General decides it wants it back.:popcorn:

LAPTOP GAMER
08-23-2008, 06:00 AM
I hope it is someone American that buys the brand. I'm sure it won't be though.:mad:

My dream is that AM General decides it wants it back.:popcorn:
Well if an American company dosen't buy Hummer, then I guess I won't be buying one as I now buy American cars only.

hummer.dad
08-23-2008, 02:18 PM
I agree about buying American. I'm sick of the US losing jobs and revenue to the Chinese etc.... When my lease is up next summer the decision that GM makes about Hummer will decide if I buy out my lease, buy a new H2, or go to a different vehicle. If it goes over seas my dream of always owning a hummer will go away. And I will not buy GM either. This will turn me and my family from GM forever! They better think about what they are doing!!! Don't know why they would want to lose customers these days.

timgco
08-23-2008, 05:13 PM
Our only home would be for AM General or Jeep to get their hands on it.

Or we're screwed. I have always been a GM person with the excpetion of Jeep. If GM gets rim of the HUMMER brand, there is no reason (no vehicles) I would buy from them...except maybe a vette or 2010 camaro.

HummerJim
08-23-2008, 06:02 PM
I agree please make it AM General or Jeep! It must be me I really loved my '67 Olds Toronado and GM said no more Olds. My Hummers are my favorite vehicle ever, both the 2 and the 3, just ahead my '65 Stingray 396 I bought new- yep, I'm an old fart, but I still love quality machinery.

RazM
08-23-2008, 07:29 PM
They have "started formal talks" after all the serious buyers have stated they're NOT interested in buying HUMMER?

Something's going on, and I don't think GM has any buyers that are willing to give them what they want for it. I've said it before, if GM dumps the brand for a fraction of the asking price then this is just a political move and some of their current execs are just worried about their next bonus, and not the future of the company.

LAPTOP GAMER
08-23-2008, 07:34 PM
Am I missing something here? Why can't they just scale back production to meet demand, and not get rid of the Hummer brand? This whole move is stupid and short sighted and one day the demand for off road vehicles will be back, then they will be kicking them selves for not keeping the Hummer brand which is a superior off road vehicle and value for the money.

RazM
08-23-2008, 07:57 PM
Am I missing something here? Why can't they just scale back production to meet demand, and not get rid of the Hummer brand? This whole move is stupid and short sighted and one day the demand for off road vehicles will be back, then they will be kicking them selves for not keeping the Hummer brand which is a superior off road vehicle and value for the money.

They want to please their shareholders, and currently, the majority of shareholders believe "green" is the way to go. Most shareholders are the dumbest people you can meet who have no instincts and go by what a piece of paper tells them. Them along with the execs at GM got diplomas up the wazzoo that only proves they've partied through university more than the average joe.

The funny thing is, they've dumped so much time and money into this "review" that the HX could have been well under way to a production unit that could potentially save the brand if properly done.

wannabeH3
08-23-2008, 09:40 PM
hows jeep supposed to buy the hummer brand they are in the schitter too

RazM
08-23-2008, 09:48 PM
hows jeep supposed to buy the hummer brand they are in the schitter too

True, pretty much all offroad brands are losing money. Even Toyota recently announced that the FJ Cruiser update has been cancelled and it'll run its life and then get the axe.

Hummer3
08-24-2008, 02:10 AM
Whom ever buys Hummer, will probably invest more and market more for the product than GM has.....the sell good be a good thing for us Hummer owners.....I

lamric
08-24-2008, 05:09 PM
Am I missing something here? Why can't they just scale back production to meet demand, and not get rid of the Hummer brand? This whole move is stupid and short sighted and one day the demand for off road vehicles will be back, then they will be kicking them selves for not keeping the Hummer brand which is a superior off road vehicle and value for the money.


Economy of scale. Hummer has to sell x amount of vehicles at MSRP to turn a profit on the brand. If they sell fewer vehicles they either have to raise the price, lay off workers or shift production to reduce costs.

LAPTOP GAMER
08-25-2008, 02:58 AM
It sounds like it really sucks to be an offroader now.

oldhummer
08-25-2008, 04:56 AM
The Russion billionaire is in the buyers pool. I see this going to him and there will be a binding agreement regarding warranty, customer relations etc.
The parts on my h3 are mostly GM and are interchangeable with almost any make within the GM brand. So maybe the h3 will stay in the GM stable. There is a place for it because the performance is in an acceptable ballpark for all of the 3.7 's. Only problem is GM is on a keep no prisoners mission and will probably shoot the h3 as well.
However, the Hummer fits the new Russion freedom and country infrastructure - me thinks?:crying:

RazM
08-25-2008, 05:55 AM
The Russian billionaire's company Russian Machines has already stated that they are NOT interested in purchasing HUMMER.

Also, not all parts are interchangable, only 25% of the H2 and H3's parts are off the shelf GM components, the rest are unique to HUMMER...

Big Dad
08-25-2008, 06:42 AM
The wife just bought the white Alpha and the dealer told us that they had sold a total of 12 H3's this weekend.

Yetti
08-25-2008, 10:52 AM
I dunno about you guys, but GM is pulling a fast one. the dealer down the road that I deal with has 40+ H3s on the lot and a couple of H2s. they are everywhere around here. I was driving yesterday down by Brooklyn, mi and saw 5 on the road and its 40 miles to the nearest dealer from there. even the semi loads of H2s I see go by are heading into Detroit and local dealers, someones buying these cars so it couldn't be that bad.

oldhummer
08-25-2008, 01:57 PM
I tried the compact Volks Golf TDI for five years and I could not get in or out of the dam thing particularly after a long drive---the h3 is a safe, economical comfortable vehicle for us oldies that have the money to end our driving carrears in comfort. We were in the bush trails of the foothills yesterday looking for wild berries and the wife loves it. We need to get the word out--I am getting 24 mpg-Imperial gallon-- up here in Canada and that is better than any truck I have owned in the last 40 years.

Desert Dan
08-25-2008, 04:57 PM
This Sucks!

Won't GM have to sell the factory wher the H3's and Colorados are made as well?

I'm seeing more and more H3's now.

Just call it a Blazer and keep making the H3, H3T and hopfully H4 as a Chevy. The design work has been done so keep it going!

If GM drops Hummer I'll go back to a Jeep if Jeep is still around. If not then I'll sadly go back to Toyota

Texas Red
08-25-2008, 07:17 PM
I plan on hanging on to my H3 for a good while. I'd be sorry to see the brand go by the wayside.

Like some of the posts above, I heard that they had no major "interested" potential buyers. They tried to peddle it to the Ruskies, VW and a Chinese outfit and got "not interested" replies from all of them.

RazM
08-25-2008, 10:53 PM
Just call it a Blazer and keep making the H3, H3T and hopfully H4 as a Chevy. The design work has been done so keep it going!

Why do I see people constantly saying this? Owning the name HUMMER isn't costing GM any money, why would they take pure HUMMER's and slap a chevy badge on them? The issue isn't the name HUMMER, it's GM's belief that SUV's and trucks aren't selling and won't sell in the future, which is debatable.

If they sell HUMMER, they can't use any of the existing designs, that will be sold along with everything else HUMMER. If they sell HUMMER and then make a chevy offroad vehicle that will be the dumbest move by GM, ever.

If GM drops Hummer I'll go back to a Jeep if Jeep is still around. If not then I'll sadly go back to Toyota

Toyota is getting rid of their 'offroaders' too...

Dave92270
08-25-2008, 11:52 PM
Hopefully GM will realize that in long run the Hummer brand is going to be profitable again, just a matter of time. With what they already invested into the R&D, it should be smart to keep it rather then trying sell it at any cost. H3T is out, H4 planned... and H3's sell, even now in current troubled times. It's like once gas dropped below $4, people regained interest in these deeply discounted SUV's. I saw several new ones on the local streets in the last week, both H3's and H2's... it's a steal these days to buy a Hummer.

DRTYFN
08-26-2008, 01:39 AM
the wall street journal reported today that gm has started formal talks with those who have lined up to buy the hummer brand. the paper says that the revenue from the sale will be put into the production of small, fuel efficient cars. i'm just hoping that when my lease with gmac is up in february i'll be able to buy my 07 h3 lux at a true fire sale price.
:yawn:
The WSJ has a perfect accuracy % on stories.:OWNED:

phantom2
08-26-2008, 03:10 PM
FYI...http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080826/bs_nm/hummer_sale_gulf_dc_1

Desert Dan
08-26-2008, 04:03 PM
GM receives Gulf Arab interest in Hummer

Two separate investors look at purchasing General Motors? brand

Reuters
updated 6:31 a.m. PT, Tues., Aug. 26, 2008
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DUBAI - General Motors Corp has received interest from two separate investors from the Gulf Arab region to buy its Hummer brand, the company?s Middle East chief told Reuters on Tuesday.
?For sure, there has been interest from various parties within the Gulf ... there is a precedent in the cases of Aston Martin, Ferrari or Daimler and those kinds of solutions could be very realistic solutions,? General Motors Middle East Managing Director Terry Johnson said in an interview.
General Motors is readying sales documents for its Hummer brand and has initial expressions of interest from potential buyers that it hopes to develop into formal sale talks, the automaker?s chief executive said on Aug 21.
Johnson said keeping the Hummer division was still a realistic option and that it was not a ?foregone conclusion? it would be sold.
?Apparently, we have had two separate investors raise their hand as being interested, but I don?t know what?s happened since then,? Johnson said by telephone, adding the investors were from the Gulf region.

DRTYFN
08-26-2008, 06:51 PM
Interest=/=offer or intent
But maybe if the Arabs(who are flush with all of the new oil money) were to buy Hummer they'd have the balls that the GM pussies don't and would build some innovative vehicles.

Spuds
08-26-2008, 07:11 PM
But maybe if the Arabs(who are flush with all of the new oil money) were to buy Hummer they'd have the balls that the GM pussies don't and would build some innovative vehicles.

:iagree:
Exactly. Maybe the best thing that could happen is for a sale and just have new management running the operation. Essentially keep the factories and workers in place and as is, but run more efficiently. Just not such enormous overhead, sucking the profits away.

Desert Dan
08-26-2008, 08:01 PM
Great

So will the Arabs supply Al Qadea with Hummers then?

LAPTOP GAMER
09-01-2008, 04:07 PM
There is no way in hell I would buy a vehicle that the rag heads had anything to do with.

HummerHippy
09-01-2008, 10:47 PM
There is no way in hell I would buy a vehicle that the rag heads had anything to do with.
And why is that?

hummeraddict
09-20-2008, 03:05 AM
There is no way in hell I would buy a vehicle that the rag heads had anything to do with.
Why not? Not all "rag heads" are osama bin laden. like a previous poster stated, it may be good for the brand to have new management. maybe you could buy an h2 for a little less than 68K. lol!

DRTYFN
09-26-2008, 02:45 PM
FYI...http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080826/bs_nm/hummer_sale_gulf_dc_1
:giggling::OWNED:

HUMMERPR
09-26-2008, 04:05 PM
There are several parties interested in the HUMMER brand and the formal talks will begin within the next several weeks. Don't believe everything you read in the papers about the major suitors not being interested. :notallthere:

It doesn't do much for negotiating leverage if you tell the world, and the seller, on the front page of the WSJ that you are interested in buying. Those discussions don't take place in public forums, like the newspaper.