Obama Wins!!!!!

[D-MAX]

:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:
no i'm not a wagon jumper but this country needs change. i'll never trust a republican after bush.

[HummerHippy]

Bush was not the best face for America. :)
A little bit lacking in the command of the english language.

[ShortBus]

I am going to work and fire some people tomorrow.
:lame:

[NJ H2]

This Country is in for 4 years of misery

[ShaggyX]

This Country is in for 4 years of miseryEven misery would be better then what Bush gave us. I don't even know a word that would describe how crappy he has been.

[jmsspratlin]

This Country is in for 4 years of misery


At least 4 is better than the last 8

[frenzy1]

At least 4 is better than the last 8
:D

I wouldn't have voted for Obama, but I'm willing to give the guy some credit.

Frenzy
Belgium

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Bush was handed some bad things that happened which he had no control over. The economy was fine and housing along with stock markets rising until the unregulated people ran it in the ground under Democratic controlled oversight commitees who turned and claimed (with taped testimony to the contrary) that all was fine and more easy money needed to be put out so lower incomes could buy homes. You turn the water hose on at the source with no nozzle on the end to control the flow and somehthing is going to get flooded. Unfortunately if you cater to the basic natural human insticts one being greed it will manifest itself every time.

So even though Bush did not shine as bright as some wished the Democrats claimed in the last mid terms they had a mandate (to do what I do not know still yet) it was after this mandate was handed down that housing went in the tank and stock markets began to have problems. The Democrats all had a chance to give a vote of confidence after 9-11 and most as well did the Republicans supported to take the fight to the terrorists and not allow anymore attacks on Our soil which is what has happened no attacks since
9-11.

I guess I just do not see as much of what is claimed to be what Bush has done wrong. It seemed all the same good ole boy goofs that some have held seats in Congress, some it seems since the Constitution was written, have all been apart of what has happened to Our Nation. Plenty of blame all around yet none to stand up and admit if what has gone wrong was to blame them.

Unless Our new President aligns himself with younger middle of the road blood, He will not accomplish anything except maintain the status quo. Well and just raise Our taxs and really kill this economy putting us into a depression. In times like we are in right now really true fresh conservative ideas are needed. Hopefully we do not get a huge turn over of Supreme Court Justices who with their most likely extremely left wing replacements will tell us what they think The Constitution should have said rather than what it does say.

Oh well hopefully we can survive what could come down on Us.

TAZ

[wpage]

Will be interesting to see who everyone blames all their problems on for the next 4 years...

[SnakeH2]

This Country is in for 4 years of misery

Agree...but keep your chin up. We made it through the Carter years.

[Ed G.]

Bush is, was and will always be a idiot. He was the President so he is ultimately resposible for all that happened on his watch, especially the last 4 years. Bush was a incompetent leader who surrounded himself with people who had their own agendas that were not in the best interest of America or the American people. The Republican Party is in ruin and has made themselves a party of fools, come on Palin is the best they could do for VP :notallthere:. Obama is facing the biggest mess any President has ever faced. Thank god that he's intelligent and has great command of the english language:).
Obama + America = :grouphug: = :dancingbanana: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Republicans + Bush = :OWNED: !!!!!!!!!!

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:
no i'm not a wagon jumper but this country needs change. i'll never trust a republican after bush.

you are one of the problems with this country...

what you are saying is:

all blacks are criminals
all jews are cheap
all italians are greasy
all catholics are ********
all the polish are bigots
all women are whores

you notice since 9-11 there has been no sucessful terrorist attacks inside the U.S.

A good portion of the blame for the financial crisis was caused by the democrats.

Bush is not perfect, agreed...but what you are saying is ignorant and reflects who you are as a person...!

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Bush is, was and will always be a idiot. He was the President so he is ultimately resposible for all that happened on his watch, especially the last 4 years. Bush was a incompetent leader who surrounded himself with people who had their own agendas that were not in the best interest of America or the American people. The Republican Party is in ruin and has made themselves a party of fools, come on Palin is the best they could do for VP :notallthere:. Obama is facing the biggest mess any President has ever faced. Thank god that he's intelligent and has great command of the english language:).
Obama + America = :grouphug: = :dancingbanana: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Republicans + Bush = :OWNED: !!!!!!!!!!

you are another ignorant person who has no life experience ...

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Will be interesting to see who everyone blames all their problems on for the next 4 years...

They will blame President Bush for the next 12 years...because they can't see past the head of their dick...

Bush made mistakes but if you study presidental history, 90% of what happens today grew out of what happened during the previous 12 years...

[HummerHippy]

Wow! Just looked at electoral map. 394 (dems) vs 162 (rep) and thats with MO and NC still too close to call. Simply amazing.

Now, let me just raise a toast to John McCain. I've always had respect for him. Wouldn't have been upset had he been elected. When he correted a questioner during the campaign, who suggested some terorist slant to Obama, McCain stood up and said No, he's a good family man.
And McCain's concession speach, very elegant. So here's to Mr McCain :beerchug:

it probably won't change anyone's opinion of Obama, but during his acceptance speach he warned foreign entities that want to hurt us, that they will be defeated. I am not worried of Obama being soft, or being supported by the Taliban, as some have claimed. (I don't believe that last claim).

But what a wonderful f-in' country we live in!

[KenP]

I am not worried of Obama being soft, or being supported by the Taliban, as some have claimed. (I don't believe that last claim).

But what a wonderful f-in' country we live in!Al Qaeda endorsed Obama, as did Chavez, Kim Jong Il and all other Freedom loving leaders.

It is a great country.

Can someone help me out? I keep hearing people say they voted for change when casting their ballot for Obama, but no one is specific.

Exactly what change/changes are you going to be happy about? What promised change did it for you?

I'm serious. On my blog people just b!tch, but I get no specifics. Thanks for the help.

[mdoyle]

The Dems strategy of registering young voters and having Oprah on their side probably did more to win this election than anything else.

Just about every Obama supporter I saw on the news and in print was either under 25 or a suburban housewife Oprah-watcher.

This election seems reminicent of the generation that elected Kennedy, one that couldn't identify with the much older McCain.

I voted for McCain; I'll be waiting to see if Obama makes good on his promise to end the war.

[8500lbs]

Bush is, was and will always be a idiot. He was the President so he is ultimately resposible for all that happened on his watch, especially the last 4 years. Bush was a incompetent leader who surrounded himself with people who had their own agendas that were not in the best interest of America or the American people. The Republican Party is in ruin and has made themselves a party of fools, come on Palin is the best they could do for VP :notallthere:. Obama is facing the biggest mess any President has ever faced. Thank god that he's intelligent and has great command of the english language:).
Obama + America = :grouphug: = :dancingbanana: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Republicans + Bush = :OWNED: !!!!!!!!!!


I would rather have an incompetent person in VP position rather than as the actual President. There have been several arguments that question the experience and capabilities of Pres. Obama. Also we all say that Bush is an idiot and cannot use the English language properly, but have we for gotten the past months where Biden has made his fair share of brain farts? Don?t get me wrong, I think he can be a capable VP and has the experience to do so. This is also not a justification of Bush or the fact that he has made some "bone head moves," because he definitely has.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2mzbuRgnI4

[NewHummerGuy]

I honestly think that the main difference in this election was the minorities who have NEVER voted going out and doing so. The numbers for both were astounding. It wasnt like republican voters sat at home. They showed up. Its just that I think a lot of "1st time" voters made the difference.

[KenP]

Exactly what change/changes are you going to be happy about? What promised change did it for you?

I'm serious. On my blog people just b!tch, but I get no specifics. Thanks for the help.No takers?

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

A major factor which gave the nod to Obama is because you had SOME people vote because of the color of his skin....

If those people could have said...Yes I like his platform or his economic stradegy is to my liking, or some substantial reason I could understand but to vote because he is a Black Man with no experience, that is plain wrong!!!!

[KenP]

Bush is, was and will always be a idiot. He was the President so he is ultimately resposible for all that happened on his watch, especially the last 4 years.That's the way it works out, especially with the liberal media when Republican holds office.

People forget it's Congress that writes the legislation and spends the money, not the President.

Bush's biggest problem is he never found his veto pen.

[ROX]

Even misery would be better then what Bush gave us. I don't even know a word that would describe how crappy he has been.
Hi Shag!

Besides the War in Iraq, what specifically didn't Bush do to make you feel better. That's what this is about, feelings. And why support Obama and not Clinton? What is he going to change? Do you think that January 21st he'll pull all our troops out of Iraq? Do you think he'll lower taxes with a Democratic Legislature? what? I'd like to know:)
Why didn't you like McCain? He obviously didn't want Bush's endorsement either and Bush did not campaign for him. (for the most part) McCain said he'd lower taxes and provide a tax break for people that wanted to buy their own health care. I don't think he meant he'd write them a blank check, but take any money spent on health care off their taxes, up to $5k a year. That's pretty cool in my book. Do you think that Republicans in general were responsible for the recent economic turmoil, even though they don't control Congress and did not pass the Legislature that led to the demise of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?

BTW, anyone can answer these questions, but I'd like to know.
I'm just happy I don't have to endure the political commercials while I'm trying to watch the weather anymore! :D

[KenP]

I would rather have an incompetent person in VP position rather than as the actual President. There have been several arguments that question the experience and capabilities of Pres. Obama.Correct.

Obama has no Executive experience and has spent more than two years of his four in the Senate on the campaign trail, thus he has less experience than anyone running from the major parties.

Palin was the only candidate with executive experience. She's the only one that actually had a budget to adherred to. She was the only one to actually run anything.

Obama has never written legislation in either the state or federal legislature. He signed on to a few bills after they were well on their way to passage.

Obama voted "present" while in the Senate more than he voted "yeah" or "nea", yet he still managed to be ranked the most liberal of all senators. That puts Obama left of Kennedy and Franks.

That's not leading. That's not running the show.

[KenP]

A major factor which gave the nod to Obama is because you had SOME people vote because of the color of his skin....Acording to the Mail and Globe:
Exact figures were to be released early today. But according to exit polling yesterday, young voters supported Mr. Obama 2 to 1 over Mr. McCain. Six in 10 women supported Mr. Obama.

About 90 per cent of African-Americans were expected to have voted, with a similarly overwhelming percentage of them supporting Mr. Obama. In Florida, exit polling showed 98 per cent of blacks voted for Mr. Obama.

[KenP]

BTW, anyone can answer these questions, but I'd like to know.
I'm just happy I don't have to endure the political commercials while I'm trying to watch the weather anymore! :DGood luck, I ask those questions all the time and no one can answer them.

Liberals say they want change, but when you ask them specifics they can't answer.

[KenP]

during his (Obama's) acceptance speach he warned foreign entities that want to hurt us, that they will be defeated. I am not worried of Obama being soft, or being supported by the Taliban, as some have claimed. (I don't believe that last claim).

But what a wonderful f-in' country we live in!Ummm, is this before or after he guts our military as promised?

Before or after he halts military research as he's promised.

Before or after he pulls our troops out of a vastly improved Iraq as promised? Remember, Obama was against the very effective surge.

[Dave92270]

Bush was handed some bad things that happened which he had no control over. The economy was fine and housing along with stock markets rising until the unregulated people ran it in the ground under Democratic controlled oversight commitees who turned and claimed (with taped testimony to the contrary) that all was fine and more easy money needed to be put out so lower incomes could buy homes. You turn the water hose on at the source with no nozzle on the end to control the flow and somehthing is going to get flooded. Unfortunately if you cater to the basic natural human insticts one being greed it will manifest itself every time.

So even though Bush did not shine as bright as some wished the Democrats claimed in the last mid terms they had a mandate (to do what I do not know still yet) it was after this mandate was handed down that housing went in the tank and stock markets began to have problems. The Democrats all had a chance to give a vote of confidence after 9-11 and most as well did the Republicans supported to take the fight to the terrorists and not allow anymore attacks on Our soil which is what has happened no attacks since
9-11.

I guess I just do not see as much of what is claimed to be what Bush has done wrong. It seemed all the same good ole boy goofs that some have held seats in Congress, some it seems since the Constitution was written, have all been apart of what has happened to Our Nation. Plenty of blame all around yet none to stand up and admit if what has gone wrong was to blame them.

Unless Our new President aligns himself with younger middle of the road blood, He will not accomplish anything except maintain the status quo. Well and just raise Our taxs and really kill this economy putting us into a depression. In times like we are in right now really true fresh conservative ideas are needed. Hopefully we do not get a huge turn over of Supreme Court Justices who with their most likely extremely left wing replacements will tell us what they think The Constitution should have said rather than what it does say.

Oh well hopefully we can survive what could come down on Us.

TAZ

well said! :iagree: 100%

[ShaggyX]

Hey Rox.

I don't like Obama, nor do I like McCain. I do however like them both more then I like Bush, and believe either one of them would do better then Bush. The war in Iraq, and the bailout are my two main reasons for hating Bush. I believe both are terrible for the economy, and just plain stupid...and IIRC..both of those ideas came from Bush, and not Congress. Sure Congress had to OK them, but they still started with Bush.

[BKLYNH2]

I thought we'd go back to talking about Hummers and boobs today? :confused: :( :( :( :(

[TXSUT]

what you are saying is:

all blacks are criminals
all jews are cheap
all italians are greasy
all catholics are ********
all the polish are bigots
all women are whores



Man, you sure do know how to make us conservative Republicans look even more stupid (for not electing McCain), and in general. Good grief...

[ROX]

Hey Rox.

I don't like Obama, nor do I like McCain. I do however like them both more then I like Bush, and believe either one of them would do better then Bush. The war in Iraq, and the bailout are my two main reasons for hating Bush. I believe both are terrible for the economy, and just plain stupid...and IIRC..both of those ideas came from Bush, and not Congress. Sure Congress had to OK them, but they still started with Bush.So it wasn't a vote for change or anything in particular, but a vote against Bush even though he wasn't running. The bailout plan was tried 2 years ago, and got stopped in Congress because no one believed what was coming.

You know, a couple of weeks ago I heard a friend of mine predict 18% unemployment within the next 2 years. :eek: Not if Obama was elected but because we don't have the infrastructure in our country to offer jobs to people that lose them in the financial industry. The strengthening dollar should help that some, but I was surprised to hear that needless to say.
Who gets blamed for high unemployment if they can't help stimulate the economy? Usually the sitting President. I sure hope he was wrong. I'd like to see Obama change his constituants from takers, to doers. Maybe they can use him as an example of how you can change your life if you try hard enough instead of sitting back and waiting for a handout. You know we live in a Democracy, it's not the same as England, France or Canada.

Personally, he lost my vote because he doesn't think showing respect for the Flag of our Country really matters that much and he couldn't even cast a vote Yes or No on hardly any legislation while he was in the Senate. Now that he's President-Elect, is he going to show us pride for the country that elected him? Will he actually take a stand and tell us what he's going to change, or just test the winds? It's time for him to lead. I'm afraid he doesn't know how.

[TXSUT]

...I heard a friend of mine predict 18% unemployment within the next 2 years. Not if Obama was elected but because...

Maybe it won't be because Obama was elected, but his plans for the coal industry and his lack of plans for nuclear power sure won't help the employment situation.

[Bully13]

I thought we'd go back to talking about Hummers and boobs today? :confused: :( :( :( :(

um..

Hummer in the White House = Bill Clinton?

Boob in the White House = Obama?

[Hmmm2]

I just can't get the "Peggy the Moocher" mentality out of my mind. What a farce this has become. And the whole thing idea of "Everything Oprah touches upon becomes gold...", that they keep talking about, is nauseating. Don't get me started. :soapbox:

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Man, you sure do know how to make us conservative Republicans look even more stupid (for not electing McCain), and in general. Good grief...

HeyTEX,

read the whole thing...

Originally Posted by D-MAX
:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:
no i'm not a wagon jumper but this country needs change. i'll never trust a republican after bush.

you are one of the problems with this country...

what you are saying is:

all blacks are criminals
all jews are cheap
all italians are greasy
all catholics are ********
all the polish are bigots
all women are whores

you notice since 9-11 there has been no sucessful terrorist attacks inside the U.S.

A good portion of the blame for the financial crisis was caused by the democrats.

Bush is not perfect, agreed...but what you are saying is ignorant and reflects who you are as a person...!

__________________

The comparison is to what D-MAX said about generalizing republicans !!!

[Ed G.]

The President surrounds himself with his "cabinet", forming the executive branch of our government. If Obama chooses his cabinet as carefully as he chose Biden as his VP, and they work well together, he will be able to handle any situation.


If McCain would have won, and some tradegy took his life, what would Palin do? More than likely "fly to the bright light"! The Republican party would have themselves another "puppet" and we'd have 4 more years of corporate corruption and war.


So your saying that the problems our country faces today are due to those whom were in power 12 years ago? Get a Grip! Don't you mean 9 to 16 years ago? Of course you do, that would make everything the Democrates fault.

[D-MAX]

you are one of the problems with this country...

what you are saying is:

all blacks are criminals
all jews are cheap
all italians are greasy
all catholics are ********
all the polish are bigots
all women are whores

you notice since 9-11 there has been no sucessful terrorist attacks inside the U.S.

A good portion of the blame for the financial crisis was caused by the democrats.

Bush is not perfect, agreed...but what you are saying is ignorant and reflects who you are as a person...!

oh hell no! i belive 911 was an inside job. it's just an excuse to move in to the middle east to take their oil. and in reality i have no problem with that but sacrafising innocent american lives that's just where i draw the line. america is the most corrupted country but is is the best place to live in, for now.

[D-MAX]

A major factor which gave the nod to Obama is because you had SOME people vote because of the color of his skin....

If those people could have said...Yes I like his platform or his economic stradegy is to my liking, or some substantial reason I could understand but to vote because he is a Black Man with no experience, that is plain wrong!!!!
that is true but a lot more people DIDN'T vote for him for the same reason.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

oh hell no! i belive 911 was an inside job. it's just an excuse to move in to the middle east to take their oil. and in reality i have no problem with that but sacrafising innocent american lives that's just where i draw the line. america is the most corrupted country but is is the best place to live in, for now.

I'll be happy to drive you to the border if you want to renounce your citzenship, if you are a citizen !!!

[D-MAX]

i will be the first to admit that i am racist or whatever, i don't like blacks, but i know with obama this country will be in better hands than mcCain. with obama as president it brings hope to people. it sends a message that america is not corrupt as it seems.

[D-MAX]

I'll be happy to drive you to the border if you want to renounce your citzenship, if you are a citizen !!!
born and raised here, just cause i think for myself doesn't makes me less american

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

The President surrounds himself with his "cabinet", forming the executive branch of our government. If Obama chooses his cabinet as carefully as he chose Biden as his VP, and they work well together, he will be able to handle any situation.


If McCain would have won, and some tradegy took his life, what would Palin do? More than likely "fly to the bright light"! The Republican party would have themselves another "puppet" and we'd have 4 more years of corporate corruption and war.


So your saying that the problems our country faces today are due to those whom were in power 12 years ago? Get a Grip! Don't you mean 9 to 16 years ago? Of course you do, that would make everything the Democrates fault.

is this pick on the old guy week ... don't you kids know how to read ?

I said, and please go back and RE-READ the post...the problems lie in what took place over the past 12 years...that means the past 8 years of President Bush and the last 4 years of President Clinton...!

DAMN - whats with you kids...didn't they teach reading in your schools???????

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

[quote=D-MAX]i will be the first to admit that i am racist can you please explain more about this statement or whatever, i don't like blacks, but i know with obama this country will be in better hands than mcCain. with obama as president it brings hope to people.hope, change, change because change is good it sends a message that america is not corrupt Ayers, Wright, Flager, Rezko

[KenP]

Hey Rox.

I don't like Obama, nor do I like McCain. I do however like them both more then I like Bush, and believe either one of them would do better then Bush. The war in Iraq, and the bailout are my two main reasons for hating Bush. I believe both are terrible for the economy, and just plain stupid...and IIRC..both of those ideas came from Bush, and not Congress. Sure Congress had to OK them, but they still started with Bush.Wrong, Bush floated the idea, Congress wrote the law (twice while adding pork to it), Bush signed it.

I agree, the bailout was wrong. Banks are using the money to buy other banks and horde the rest.

[KenP]

The President surrounds himself with his "cabinet", forming the executive branch of our government. If Obama chooses his cabinet as carefully as he chose Biden as his VP, and they work well together, he will be able to handle any situation.You've got thing all mixed up there.

You can substitute McCain and Palin and get the same answer.

Plus, Palin was the only experienced executive of the lot.

I have to ask again because no one will answer:
Exactly what change/changes are you going to be happy about? What promised change did it for you?

[KenP]

i will be the first to admit that i am racist or whatever, i don't like blacks, but i know with obama this country will be in better hands than mcCain.Why? I really want to know, but no one will say. I'm beginning to think it's all a secret.

Two thumbs up for the honesty in the rest of the post.

[KenP]

it sends a message that america is not corrupt as it seems.Ummm, not quite. Ever heard of ACORN? Voter Fraud? Black Panther voter intimidation? Palin in effigy? Calls for Joe the Plumber's death? Concerns of rioting if Obama didn't win?

Very embarrassing.

You should have stopped before typing that, because the other stuff was good.

[Ed G.]

Only if you consider Biden and Palin equals, as far as experience and job qualifications, is it the same situation.

[Karsun]

I voted for McCain but I'm hoping for the best with Obama. I liked things about both men so I wish him well. What I don't get are the people crying over his election like he's their savior. That confuses me. Then again, I don't get why people of this day and age are still racist. Who cares what color he is? I didn't vote for him due to my opinion that McCain had more experience and was a war hero that served his country and almost died for it. I didn't agree with everything he believed in but nor did I agree with a lot of Obama's policies. We'll all have to wait and see how things turn out. I just don't understand why people think it's okay to say that they don't like black people or people of other cultures, religions or races. It's stupid and but for the grace of God you could have been born black, asian or indian. Seriously, if more people loved each other equally then things would be so much better.

[SnakeH2]

I love this stuff. I am also as interested as Ken in what change is expected. We have a handful on this thread that should be happy to reply, yet they sit and drink their Kool-Aid...

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

DON'T YOU KNOW !!!

Change is good and good is good so change is not only good but its change...

and

if we can change what we had yesterday to the change of today then that is even gooder, becage change is good...

and

think of the change from yesterday to today, the good change, and then you look at the change we can have tomorrow, my gosh...

change is good...

and on

and on

and on !!!


(i wish i had that JIB-JAB animation on CHANGE) it explains it all...
the one of Obama tip toeing through the tulips with the sparkeling teeth in the big smile singing...

[KenP]

I voted for McCain WHOA!!! Are you kidding? The panhandle of FL is largely Republican, but I thought you'd vote Obama. I didn't see that coming.

What I don't get are the people crying over his election like he's their savior. That confuses me.Obama started backpedaling during his Grant Park speech when he said his goals may not be accomplished in one year, two years, or one term.

But the best was when he said "we all will have to make sacrifices" and "the road will be long, the mountain will be steep." The looks on the faces of people in the crowd were priceless. They were like, "Huh? Us?"

Who cares what color he is?
Agreed. With me being conservative there wasn't any chance of the Dems getting my vote no matter who was on their ticket. I'd love to ee J.C. Watts on a conservative ticket.

Seriously, if more people loved each other equally then things would be so much better.I hate everyone about the same. Does that count?

[KenP]

Markets around the world are down and the Dow futures are off again today.

Money for the bailout is coming from China. That's great, isn't it....

[SnakeH2]

Markets around the world are down and the Dow futures are off again today.

Money for the bailout is coming from China. That's great, isn't it....

If it has to come from somewhere, isn't China the best place?? I see them having the most to loose if we can't come out of this...

[Ed G.]

1. Healthcare - pass a bill to reform our health insurance system. Make it more affordable to small businesses and the middle class.

2. Energy - invest more money in alternative energy and start drilling in Alaska. No more having our countries energy program controlled by foreign countries and big US oil companies.

3.The Wars in Iraq / Afganistan - End it now. get our troops home. The Iraqi government should be able to stand on its own. It's time to let the Iraqi people fight for the own freedom. Quit farting around in Afganistan, send more troops and do what it takes to capture and kill Bin Laden.

4. Tax Reform - don't know where to start.

5. Invest in America - create good jobs by rebuilding our infrastucture and develope an energy program that will eventually free us from our large dependance on foreign countries to provide our huge energy needs.

The biggest change I'm looking for with Obama is to find answers to our problems not just push it off to future generations.

[KenP]

1. Healthcare - pass a bill to reform our health insurance system. Make it more affordable to small businesses and the middle class.

Both candidates proposals aren't perfect. Neither will really help until there's competition among insurance companies from across state borders. Until that happens there won't be much in the way of competition and no incentives to keep costs down.

Obama wants more government control. All that leads to is higher overall cost. Someone has to pay for the programs and that's the taxpayer, not business because they just pass the cost to the consumer.

2. Energy - invest more money in alternative energy and start drilling in Alaska. No more having our countries energy program controlled by foreign countries and big US oil companies.

Actually, Obama was against offshore drilling, then changed his mind so he could drill for votes. He embraced a compromise bill from the Gang Of 10 because it was politically expedient. However, Pelosi, Reid, et al are against offshore drilling so much they shut down Congress earlier this year to avoid a vote on it.

The Senate bill would have repealed tax breaks for oil companies theat the Dems have been fighting for two years and would have funded research for better fuel efficiency.

As far as alternative energy, both candidates were very similar, but noteably the Obama/Biden ticket is against clean coal.

3.The Wars in Iraq / Afganistan - End it now. get our troops home. The Iraqi government should be able to stand on its own. It's time to let the Iraqi people fight for the own freedom. Quit farting around in Afganistan, send more troops and do what it takes to capture and kill Bin Laden.

We can't just pull out and de-stabilize the entire Middle East. The Surge, which Obama was against, has worked. The US has handed over control of 13 of 16 provinces.

Just today Gen. Patreas said he's going to send more troops home.

You seriously can't believe for one second that Obama is going to cut and run from Iraq when we're almost finished there.

4. Tax Reform - don't know where to start.

I'll start for you, raise taxes in a Recession and head straight for Depression. That's a fact, it's happened everytime and the voting liberals just don't get it. Or they ignore it.

Lower taxes and everytime revenue to the Federal Government has increased. That's also a fact, it's happened everytime.

Increase taxes on businesses and they first cut jobs, then raise prices. We all get to pay more for our products. It's happened everytime.

Then there's his Socialist view coming out in him wanting to take my money and give it to someone else. To bring about financial parity. Heck, he could have given the world a demonstration by giving McCain 42% of his donations. That was the right thing to do, but he didn't do it.

5. Invest in America - create good jobs by rebuilding our infrastucture and develope an energy program that will eventually free us from our large dependance on foreign countries to provide our huge energy needs.

New Deal #2, or maybe TVA #2. That's artificial job creation and doesn't come from within. It's a way to keep people busy. Sure it provides a check for the families, but with higher prices it won't mean much.

You already touched on energy and both candidates were very similar.

The biggest change I'm looking for with Obama is to find answers to our problems not just push it off to future generations.

Fail. Where do you think Obama's trillion dollar spending increase is going to come from? He can't print the money, he's going to borrow it so he doesn't have to worry about it. Future generations will.
The only way to accomplish what is needed is to cut taxes, increase business growth and cut spending.

During Reagan's years when taxes were cut revenue more than doubled. The problem was the Democratic controlled Congress that didn't stop spending.

The buracratic thought process makes them spend money. If they don't, they get less for their programs the following year. It's cyclical and ingrained and both parties have a problem with it.

[Metallic Red]

Doesn't matter who you put in office, they are all CROOKS!!


:drama: :drama: Keep this going, I'm getting a good laugh.


Oh by the way are we supposed to take down our American Flags
for the next 4 years or what?? :o :o

Should we be flying an African flag ?? :rant: :rant:

[DRTYFN]

LOL!!! @ all of the dummies that conveniently overlook/ignore the idiocy of both Barry and Biden.:giggling:
There's so many of these, but watch this one.
Obama gaffes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap2Cg_FDRy4)

And as for Biden, HOLYMONGOLOID!!! I think the Botox has pooled up in his cranium. Someone that f*cks up this bad should have been run off by the media.
Biden on the Great Depression (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB5VPvT7sFo)

Here's a list of Biden gaffes. LINK (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=joe+biden+gaffes&search_type=&aq=f)

And we all know who the Democrats will blame for anything that happens.

[DRTYFN]

:OWNED: :OWNED: :OWNED: :OWNED:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svjnb3UqLbg

[DRTYFN]

Who's the idiot? :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmY4Q-HHhaA

[Karsun]

WHOA!!! Are you kidding? The panhandle of FL is largely Republican, but I thought you'd vote Obama. I didn't see that coming.


LOL I've been saying I was voting for McCain for a while now. Someone doesn't read my crap. :(

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

I read...

i'm still waiting for those 2 kids to answer my questions... ?

[brad_p]

I didnt vote at all.

[KenP]

And we all know who the Democrats will blame for anything that happens.The media will be blaming the Republicans for every holdup of liberal legislation.

Or maybe after The Chosen One doesn't do as he promised once too often they'll finally investigate Ayers and the rest of those crooks Obama is pals with.

[KenP]

I didnt vote at all.Then you don't have a voice.:D

[brad_p]

I work across the state so i couldnt, i would have voted republican and i knew louisiana would have went republican without my vote so i figure i was good.

[splne1]

http://www.dancollinscartoons.com/Hustlertoons3/Pullout_fs.jpg

hahaha still love this toon!!

[KenP]

Pretty funny!

[tyler1bo]

Bush is, was and will always be a idiot. He was the President so he is ultimately resposible for all that happened on his watch, especially the last 4 years. Bush was a incompetent leader who surrounded himself with people who had their own agendas that were not in the best interest of America or the American people. The Republican Party is in ruin and has made themselves a party of fools, come on Palin is the best they could do for VP :notallthere:. Obama is facing the biggest mess any President has ever faced. Thank god that he's intelligent and has great command of the english language:).
Obama + America = :grouphug: = :dancingbanana: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Republicans + Bush = :OWNED: !!!!!!!!!!

Still support him? The man can't even answer a simple question without a teleprompter..he has no clue of anything. He hasn't done one thing positive in this entire term but spend away everyone's money.

[DRTYFN]

:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:
no i'm not a wagon jumper but this country needs change. i'll never trust a republican after bush.
How's your a s s hole feeling now?

[DRTYFN]

i will be the first to admit that i am racist or whatever, i don't like blacks, but i know with obama this country will be in better hands than mcCain. with obama as president it brings hope to people. it sends a message that america is not corrupt as it seems.
:jump: :jump: :jump: :jump:
You have anything to say about your previous comments?

[tyler1bo]

Hahaha..that's funny

[ssgharkness020147]

1. Healthcare - pass a bill to reform our health insurance system. Make it more affordable to small businesses and the middle class.

2. Energy - invest more money in alternative energy and start drilling in Alaska. No more having our countries energy program controlled by foreign countries and big US oil companies.

3.The Wars in Iraq / Afganistan - End it now. get our troops home. The Iraqi government should be able to stand on its own. It's time to let the Iraqi people fight for the own freedom. Quit farting around in Afganistan, send more troops and do what it takes to capture and kill Bin Laden.

4. Tax Reform - don't know where to start.

5. Invest in America - create good jobs by rebuilding our infrastucture and develope an energy program that will eventually free us from our large dependance on foreign countries to provide our huge energy needs.

The biggest change I'm looking for with Obama is to find answers to our problems not just push it off to future generations.



1: Healthcare... I'm not going to even comment.

2: Obama drilling in Alaska, are you ****ing kidding? Hasn't happened yet and it isn't going to. Enjoying your $4.00 a gallon gasoline yet?

3: Iraq and Afghanistan. Explain to me how he's different than Bush in this regard?

4: Thank god he wasn't able to "reform" taxes.

5: Invest in America. Or continue to sell it to China.

The biggest change I'm looking for with Obama is to find answers to our problems not just push it off to future generations.

You mean by creating things like massive spending programs, "stimulus" funds, creating an unsustainable healthcare program, massive government expansion, soaring debt, and possible inflation worries? I'm sure you're glad he didn't do any of those things.

[ssgharkness020147]

Paging Stockstar.


WTF. :lame: this is'nt the place to flex your political stance. There are plenty of forums that will allow you to express yourself about politics, but this isnt the one. :raar:

Here is one for you. Enjoy
http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/

[jessica001]

But also Obama is not doing anything special. I mean i had lots of expectations from him but he did not fulfill those.

[OrangeCrush]

How's your a s s hole feeling now?

:iagree:

Mark

[williamtime]

I hate Obama

[ssgharkness020147]

But also Obama is not doing anything special. I mean i had lots of expectations from him but he did not fulfill those.



You know the president is a failure when the (movie) spambot takes the time to stop advertising and express their displeasure in our rookie in chief.

[Z06RB]

:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:
no i'm not a wagon jumper but this country needs change. i'll never trust a republican after bush.

How is that hope and change working out for you.

[f5fstop]

He's probably in an unemployment line and cannot answer:clapping: :clapping:

And his hope is gone and all he has left is some change:jump:

[OrangeCrush]

3.The Wars in Iraq / Afganistan - End it now. get our troops home. The Iraqi government should be able to stand on its own. It's time to let the Iraqi people fight for the own freedom. Quit farting around in Afganistan, send more troops and do what it takes to capture and kill Bin Laden.


Nevermind the other stuff but I guess none of these predictions or hopes came through.

Obama flat out lied to the people. He said he would remove troops from over there.

He did and replaced them with private civilian mercenaries (like black water people) at a cost of triple the money.

It was costing us 50K (on average) to keep the troops there per year per troop.

Now we?re paying 150K per civilian per year to keep their replacements there.

Obama SUCKS ass.


Mark

[DDWH]

:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:
no i'm not a wagon jumper but this country needs change. i'll never trust a republican after bush.
HEY DEEP THROAT.........Where are you now? :twak:Yep slather'n on that ball batter!:twak:

[DRTYFN]

Bush is, was and will always be a idiot. He was the President so he is ultimately resposible for all that happened on his watch, especially the last 4 years. Bush was a incompetent leader who surrounded himself with people who had their own agendas that were not in the best interest of America or the American people. The Republican Party is in ruin and has made themselves a party of fools, come on Palin is the best they could do for VP :notallthere:. Obama is facing the biggest mess any President has ever faced. Thank god that he's intelligent and has great command of the english language:).
Obama + America = :grouphug: = :dancingbanana: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Republicans + Bush = :OWNED: !!!!!!!!!!

Tell us how great it's been with the incompetent community-organizer as president. It's a shame that the first president of color has to be such pathetic liar and a complete f@ggot.
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=54414&stc=1&d=1398453539

[jsbihn]

Tell us how great it's been with the incompetent community-organizer as president. It's a shame that the first president of color has to be such pathetic liar and a complete f@ggot.


I think I have a new favorite person on this website
I agree with DirtyFun

To add... tell us how after almost 6 years of a democratic congress and a democratic president, we are better than we were before he was in office.
Funny how when Reagan was president... a republican, and the congress was republican... that the US had its great success and economic rise since the 50s.

We have gone from a country that used to be able to survive on a single income, to a country that wanted to have two incomes in the household to get the goodies, to a country that HAS to have to incomes to barely survive.

Yep.... Obama and our congress has done great

OH and btw if you think Reagan wasnt good at getting our country great... who did he take over from? Carter... and he had us in the crapper then Reagan and in less time then Obama has had (Reagan 2 years, Obama so far 6) flipped our nation back into success.

Also, lets think of our national debt. Yeah Reagan spent money but we had something to show for it, what do we have to show for Obama's spending? A president that has lots of vacation times?

Oh yeah, and the fact that Obama has been selling America to China (our biggest enemy). Actually selling isnt that correct, he has been more like giving America away.

OK Ok ok... I will get off the soap box :soapbox: