just picked this bad boy up yesterday 11/24

[wannabeH3]

http://www.the-m-factor.com/
black 9mm

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

very nice....!!!!!

whats the general price range ?

[wannabeH3]

570 is what i found it for after shopping around a lot. ive seen it as high as 750!!!

[wpage]

20 on the 1st clip nice! + 38 = 58 shots on 3 clips. Thats some fire power...

Guess you wont need a laser scope with all that :perfect10s:

[frenzy1]

Great buy bro !!!

[wannabeH3]

thanks guys im gonna try it out on friday i think.. cant wait!

[splne1]

9mm??? get a real gun .45 or .40? The .45 XD's are awesome and they offer them in sub compact models. If you like the springfields you will like the Taurus models. http://www.taurususa.com/products/gunselector-results.cfm?series=247

[Easy Ed]

Got a Beretta M9A1 on the 19th and will have the Crimson Trace LG-402M for it by the 5th of Dec.

Yes, I know the 45 is considered to be better than the 9mm but I wanted the M9A1 ;)

Oh yeah, Crimson has a free shirt or hat that has "Laser Grips, Helping Bad Guys Make Informed Decisions" on them :D while they have a Thanksgiving Sale going on.
http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/ThanksgivingPromotions2008/tabid/409/Default.aspx

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[jmsspratlin]

Funny, I nearly bought a Magnum Desert Eagle in Alabama the other day, however being a FL resident they couldn't sell it to me due to being out of state. Was the lowest price for a new one I had found....$1300. very nice. Was at Woods and Water in Tusculoosa, AL if someone is looking for one that lives around there.

[splne1]

Thats the first beretta 9mm I have seen with a tac rail??? Nice. Don't get me wrong 9mm are ok, they just don't offer some stopping power. I have the Taurus pro 24/7 .40 I scaled down from the .45 because my wife couldnt control the .45 to well. Her shots were to spread. Well better get all the firearms before Obama gets his ways!!:giggling:

[wannabeH3]

I got two glock .45's already. the 9 rounds out my collection

[Easy Ed]

Yup, That is a MIL-SPEC 1913 picatinny rail. There are a couple other minor changes made to the weapon that make it a little different than the 92 FS.

I could have gone with a laser for the rail but the Crimson Trace on the grip just seems a better option for me/us. Maybe a small flash light for dark of night situations. I was looking at replacing the recoil spring and rod with a laser for about the same price as the Crimson but the dealer and I just didn't seem to get "along well", such is life :rant:

The firearm is going to be for self defense (will be getting permit to conceal by spring) and my thinking is the weapon is a mid weight one (aluminum frame) and holds 15 plus 1 and a couple taps to the head or chest with Federal Cartridge Hydra-Shok made possible with a laser sighting should take care of any threat, but again that is just my thinking and why I bought it ;)

Still may get Karen a Beretta Px4 Storm Sub-Compact in 9 mm with the Crimson Laser if she doesn't like the M9A1. https://www.shopberetta.com/e2wItemMain.aspx?parentID=IT00005867&parentLink=2100000084:3100001364:3100001370

Before I forget, did own a Desert Eagle nickle plated 44 mag for many years, it is just not practical for self defense but was fun to shoot.

Still have the pre-ban AR 15 which Karen bought for me when she was stationed at Bragg years ago, we just felt we needed a "small arm" cause of the times we are a living in.

Did look at a Barrett 50 single shot thinking that Obama would ban the sale of them but Karen wanted to know what I was going to be shooting at a mile and a half away, didn't get one, yet :D



Thats the first beretta 9mm I have seen with a tac rail??? Nice. Don't get me wrong 9mm are ok, they just don't offer some stopping power. I have the Taurus pro 24/7 .40 I scaled down from the .45 because my wife couldnt control the .45 to well. Her shots were to spread. Well better get all the firearms before Obama gets his ways!!:giggling:

[wpage]

Get em now so they are grandfathered. :beerchug:
Semi autos and big bores will be the first to be banned. Its been the State Laws till now. Federal changes may be comming...:raar:

[Easy Ed]

Here is one that started back in June. H.R. 6257 (The link would not work)

Maybe this one http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:h6257ih.txt.pdf

Check out the list of weapons they want to ban, it'll never happen :notallthere:


Get em now so they are grandfathered. :beerchug:
Semi autos and big bores will be the first to be banned. Its been the State Laws till now. Federal changes may be comming...:raar:

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

not a good link or my computer doesn't like it...!!!

[Easy Ed]

Does the PDF one work ? Took me a bit (till 12:49) to find one that would and I edited many times before I got one to work.

not a good link or my computer doesn't like it...!!!

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Are they saying that those in

APPENDIX A

are to be banned ?

[Easy Ed]

Those in appendix A will be legal to own, it is the following that could be illegal unless owned prior to the date of the "possible" ban.


The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means--`(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the firearms in any caliber, known as--`(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);`(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;`(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);`(iv) Colt AR-15;`(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;`(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;`(vii) Steyr AUG;`(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and`(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;`(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;`(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;`(iii) a bayonet mount;`(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and`(v) a grenade launcher;`(C) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--`(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;`(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;`(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;`(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and`(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; and`(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;`(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;`(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and`(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.'.Are they saying that those in

APPENDIX A

are to be banned ?

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

you mean they don't like my Mossberg 500, 18 1/2", pistol grip, 6 shot...?

[Andy C]

Those in appendix A will be legal to own, it is the following that could be illegal unless owned prior to the date of the "possible" ban.


The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means--`(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the firearms in any caliber, known as--`(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);`(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;`(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);`(iv) Colt AR-15;`(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;`(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;`(vii) Steyr AUG;`(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and`(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;`(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;`(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;`(iii) a bayonet mount;`(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and`(v) a grenade launcher;`(C) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--`(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;`(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;`(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;`(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and`(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; and`(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;`(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;`(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and`(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.'.

That has now become my new shopping list :D

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

;`(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;`(

Those words can be interpeted 1001 and 1 ways !!!!!

[Easy Ed]

Yup, Just like my AR 15 with pistol grip, 20 round mags, (or my 30 round for that matter) flash suppressor and bayonet lug. I have owned this weapon since 1983 or so and I "think" it will be grandfathered in due to date of purchase as last time they "banned assault weapons".

you mean they don't like my Mossberg 500, 18 1/2", pistol grip, 6 shot...?

[Andy C]

;`(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;`(

Those words can be interpeted 1001 and 1 ways !!!!!

Basically anything that looks like an AR15 / M16 is what they are referring to - thats the way that I read it.

[splne1]

:iagree: The GOV has been after all AR15/M16 for a while now. What ever happened to the right to bear arms??? Who cares if I own a .22 or a .50 BMG. It's my damn right!!!

[HUMTECH]

Threads like these make me wish i lived south of the border

[Easy Ed]

HUMTECH, You are welcome to come on down ya know :D

[HUMTECH]

Somedays its very tempting

[TXSUT]

Funny, I nearly bought a Magnum Desert Eagle in Alabama the other day.......$1300.

Which caliber?