Anyone interested in a REAL HD brushguard? [Archive]

HumminNBoatin'

05-19-2009, 04:22 PM

OK guys and girls,

I was out wheeling with Travis (aka Rubberduck) this weekend at Kinzalow's. I asked him what it would take to get a serious "Treehugger" brush guard made for the H2. He told me he would need 5 commited buyers. Well I am No. 1 We need 4 more.

The Treehugger is the most sought after brush guard available for the H1 as its by far the most durable option out there for the H1's.

The problem with the other over the hood brush guards for the H2 is that they are not pinned at the top of the hood and if they are the fiberglass hood is not designed to take the loads of pressing a 7K# H2 up against a tree. And we all the the factory one bends without much effort. This product will be pinned at the top just like the H1 Tree hugger is by building supports that are connected to the frame of the H2.

For the H2 it will look very similar and will most likely have an similar price point.

If you are interested get at me. When I have 4 more interested parties I will go to Travis and get more info on how we get this done. Here are some pics of the H1 Treehugger.

http://www.rubberduck4x4.com/h1/exterior/treehugger/Brushguard004800.jpg
http://www.rubberduck4x4.com/h1/exterior/treehugger/Brushguard003800.jpg
http://www.rubberduck4x4.com/h1/exterior/treehugger/Brushguard002800.jpg

ROUSHDEMON

05-19-2009, 05:11 PM

What price point are you talking about?

TXSUT

05-19-2009, 06:36 PM

What price point are you talking about?

http://www.rubberduck4x4.com/h1/exterior/treehugger/

ROUSHDEMON

05-19-2009, 06:52 PM

AH!..... yeah... I think I'd get RoadArmor for that kind of money.
Too much for me boys.:OWNED:

thefinestimage

05-19-2009, 09:39 PM

You can count me in, depending upon how it is to come out. I am tired of this weak GM one, and I can't seem to get a better one, so why not. Keep us posted, Joe.

splne1

05-20-2009, 02:07 AM

AH!..... yeah... I think I'd get RoadArmor for that kind of money.
Too much for me boys.:OWNED:

:iagree:

HumminNBoatin'

05-20-2009, 03:01 AM

Road Armour is $3K. We are talking roughly half of that. So Im a bit confused by your statment.

splne1

05-20-2009, 09:51 PM

This seller on ebay usually runs them for about 1500 if not less.

http://stores.shop.ebay.com/roadarmor-4-less__W0QQ_armrsZ1

thefinestimage

05-20-2009, 10:52 PM

PM with info sent. Keep me posted, and thanks!

HumminNBoatin'

05-28-2009, 06:18 PM

This seller on ebay usually runs them for about 1500 if not less.

http://stores.shop.ebay.com/roadarmor-4-less__W0QQ_armrsZ1

:orly: Thats just for the bumper. And thats not even H2 bumpers.

Ok an update. Talked to Travis yesterday. Design will begine the first week of July. The protype will be built and photos will be shot etc.... If we all like we put 50% down and then 50% on delivery I think I have 5 now so these original 5 will have input on the design.

Eric

CONRAD II

05-28-2009, 10:05 PM

AH!..... yeah... I think I'd get RoadArmor for that kind of money.
Too much for me boys.:OWNED:

Not to change the subject too much but speaking of the RoadArmor bumper check this out..... http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.channel&vanity=roadarmor

ROUSHDEMON

05-29-2009, 12:03 AM

Not to change the subject too much but speaking of the RoadArmor bumper check this out..... http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.channel&vanity=roadarmor

http://funkyheart.com/images/stories/Borat/verynice.gif

KT2T

06-24-2009, 01:30 PM

How is the prototype coming along? So far I have been leaning toward the Real Wheels black powder coated stainless steel two-tier with inserts, but at a similar price point to what you are describing here, I am very interested to see the prototype mounted. It isn't specifically mentioned, but I assume that this treehugger will be steel, not stainless steel, correct?

HumminNBoatin'

06-30-2009, 08:41 PM

Next week the H2 goes to Rubberduck to start designing/building the prototype. I will be sure to post a TON of pix of it. It will be made of steel and powdercoated with a rough finish for easy touch up and durability. If you wanted it to be a smooth powdercoat it would not be a problem to have that done eighter.

SummitUp

07-05-2009, 06:27 PM

Can't say I'm committing myself at this point, but I'm definitely in on this thread.

Keep us posted!

HumminNBoatin'

07-06-2009, 08:26 PM

Update:

I will be dropping the H2 off to Rubberduck on friday July 17th. Travis is slammed with work etc... So we had to push it back.

Eric

HumminNBoatin'

07-30-2009, 05:20 PM

UPDATE!! UPDATE!! UPDATE!!

Took the H2 to Rubberduck last night to start putting some ideas together.

The bad news is that Travis needs to finish a couple trucks that have turned into much bigger jobs than original expected. So we are going to try and get this done by the end of August. Also keep in mind he just had a newborn baby.

Anyway we think we have figured out a suitable way to build the H2 Treehugger. The mount will be similar to the way the SMA bumper mounts in that it will be bolted to the frame of the truck in the front and not to the Hood Hinges. This will offer far superior support to the brush guard.

According to Travis this mounting to the frame alone should provide more than enough support the the guard to knock down some serious brush and small trees.

He was thinking about making the hood pins optional. However they will come through the black plastic hood louver and the mount would overlay the entire radiator core support for added strength.

The bad news is that Travis needs to finish a couple trucks that have turned into much bigger jobs than original expected. So we are going to try and get this done by the end of August.

I will keep you all posted as this comes to fruition.

Eric

ROUSHDEMON

07-30-2009, 08:14 PM

you mean kinda like exactly the one I built?

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37899

cuz that's exactly what I did....:D

HumminNBoatin'

07-31-2009, 03:14 AM

You did a nice job with that. But this one will be quiet a bit different than yours.

KT2T

07-31-2009, 05:16 AM

So we are going to try and get this done by the end of August.

GAH.

HumminNBoatin'

07-31-2009, 03:53 PM

I hear yah man...... Good things come to those who wait.

Also on the Realwheels brush guard.... They look really good dont get me wrong but, I would not try and push over anything larger in diameter than your pinky finger. Also it bolts to the factory location. So if you slam something large with it like a Deer your looking at some real damage. And you are going to spend alot more money on the Realwheels guard than you will on the Rubberduck Treehugger.

KT2T

07-31-2009, 06:09 PM

I don't mind spending $1.5k on a solid, well constructed guard, Real Wheels or Rubberduck, but I am struggling with my "instant gratification" problem right now. I will be patient and wait for the Rubberduck, not just because of the expected quality, but also because he advertised in Azimuth (using "GO DUCK YOURSELF" -- nice).

Question... will the Rubberduck Treehugger be built using powder-coated stainless steel like the Real Wheels guard? I am thinking that I would like stainless as a base because it's bound to get nicked and dinged all the time and every nick and ding will be a breeding ground for rust.

Oh, I saw a Road Armor guard on a truck the other day, huge and heavy, but rusted all to hell and it looked nasty. Would rather not have to deal with that if possible.

If stainless has faults in this application, please share the reasons why as I would genuinely like to know.

Thanks.

Lotusman333

07-31-2009, 06:45 PM

Count me in as a committed buyer. PM me with info please. Thanks

timgco

08-01-2009, 05:10 AM

The issues of rust that many of the manufact's have is because the poianting/ PC prep work.

Undercaoting before the PC'ing is important. Although the stainless would be my prefered route, the cost savings on a guard that is UC'd for it's PC'd would be fine in my book.

One the reasons the Real Wheels guards are so expensive is due to teh use of stainless. I have had one of thier guards and it was very well built. That one was PC'd black over stainless.

HumminNBoatin'

09-19-2009, 07:46 PM

Hey guys as a update I am dropping the H2 off tomorrow night. Travis will have the truck all week next week to build the prototype. We should have pictures ready sometime by end of week and he should be ready to take orders.

TOI-MAT

09-29-2009, 05:44 PM

Any progress on the guard?

HumminNBoatin'

09-29-2009, 06:30 PM

I should have pictures of the completed prototype by tomorrow night. It wont be powder coated yet but you will be able to see how its shape is comming together.

If you want to see it in person I will have it on my truck at Windrock also I am not too far from you as I live like a mile from Kings Island.

The hardest part of the whole project has been designing a strong enough mounting system that will work with any bumper. Weather you have a winch bumper or a stock bumper this thing will fit. The only thing on the market with compairable strenght would be teh Road Amor Dakar. However That set up will run you over $4K. This will be less than $2K.

TOI-MAT

10-08-2009, 04:31 PM

I would come see it but I am out of town and probably will be on travel for te rest of the month. Any pics?

HumminNBoatin'

10-08-2009, 04:50 PM

I could have pix as early as tonight. But more likely tomorrow. I am picking up the truck tomorrow as I have some service I need to perform on it this weekend before windrock. So the pix I will have will be Pre-powder coat. The plan is to send it out to powdercoat tomorrow so it can be installed back on the truck tuesday. I leave for Windrock on Wednesday. Its been a long process getting this thing to market. But I can assure you its been done right and no corners are beeing cut with this thing. Afterall Travis has to uphold his Rubberduck4x4 reputation.

Boss Hoss

10-10-2009, 06:34 PM

I could have pix as early as tonight. But more likely tomorrow.

:popcorn:

Gunner_45

10-10-2009, 07:59 PM

I?ve been following this across several different forums and after the buildup,

was disappointed to have not seen any pics yet.

I think HNB is just being a TEASE???.:D :D :D

Come on dude, we are waiting for the big "Reveal".

HumminNBoatin'

10-11-2009, 03:39 AM

Sorry guys. Its not done :( I had to pick up the Truck from Travis friday to perform some service work on it before I leave for Windrock wednesday. I am truly bummmed that it is not done. Travis had the truck for 3 weeks but his customer orders come first etc... So anyway the H2 goes back to him the Monday after Windrock.

The front bar and center loop that runs over the center part of the hood is done. The mounting system is done as well. The mounting system was the most difficult part of the BG to design. It completely bolts to the frame of the truck and at the same time it is completely hidden from site. The other major difficulty was desinging the mount so that it would be compatible with any aftermarket winch bumper or factory bumper.

I was really looking forward to showing it off at Windrock but looks like we are going to have to wait.

ROUSHDEMON

10-12-2009, 06:00 AM

Rico001

10-13-2009, 06:23 AM

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn::popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

TOI-MAT

10-25-2009, 11:59 PM

Any update?

HumminNBoatin'

10-26-2009, 05:06 PM

I was supposed to take the H2 to Travis last week just after Windrock but.... I had to do some work to it when I got home, I had an idler arm go bad as well as a ball joint. So in my spare time last week I had to install new Idler/Pitman arms and new ball joints and new grease/dust boots on my Fabtech tie rods as they had rips. And I had to take measurement for some new air spring spacers that I am having made.

So the truck goes back to Travis the second week of November to finish up the BG. He is headed out of town on vacation this week. The hardest part of the designing is done (Taking measurements, building the mount, test fitting, building the front bar, the overhood center loop.) I have seen what he does have done on the truck and I gotta tell you its sweet. Just is taking quiet a bit of time to finish. Once the prototype is done He has to use it to build a Jig for reproduction. Once the Jig is done he has to build a guard on the jig and install it on the truck to be sure the Jig is correct. Then they should be ready for sale.

Along with the guard he is going too be doing a couple other prototypes for the H2 while he has it.

ROUSHDEMON

10-26-2009, 11:21 PM

FYI guys, I've seen Travi's work, its top knotch, very nice guy as well, just can't wait to see the damn thing done already, HA!

And Eric that sucks, I have a short video of you trying to cross over a ditch and you can hear 2 loud POPS!.... ouch!... I wonder if its when you damaged one of those, let me know if you want me to post it:D

HumminNBoatin'

10-27-2009, 02:34 PM

Post it! Although I really think that the pops that you hear were my control arm when it was loose. I honestly think the ball joint was bad before I even got to the event. And my idler was worn BAD but not making noise.

HumminNBoatin'

11-20-2009, 08:31 PM

Almost there......... I don't know how you can look at this thing and think "I don't want that on my truck"

Its not done yet.... but close very close

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/esitterle/H2%20Treehugger/IMG00002-20091120-1351.jpg

ROUSHDEMON

11-20-2009, 09:39 PM

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!! !!!!
Thanks F"ing awesome dude!
FINALLY! now go run over some Civics!:D

thefinestimage

11-20-2009, 10:35 PM

That is awesome. I can't wait til I get one. :dancingbanana:

PHATBOYPIMP

11-21-2009, 12:34 AM

Wow, that looks nice. Looking forward to it going to "production".

:perfect10s:

NJ H2

11-21-2009, 01:19 AM

I loave it!!

:perfect10s:

HumminNBoatin'

11-21-2009, 04:03 AM

Keep in mind the factory plastic valance is not installed in this pic. But it is part of the complete setup.

Anyway next step is for Rubberduck to make a jig. Then produce one on the jig to make sure the jig is correct. Once that is done Travis will be ready to take orders.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/esitterle/H2%20Treehugger/IMG00144.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/esitterle/H2%20Treehugger/IMG00145.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/esitterle/H2%20Treehugger/IMG00146.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/esitterle/H2%20Treehugger/IMG00148.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/esitterle/H2%20Treehugger/IMG00151.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/esitterle/H2%20Treehugger/IMG00154.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/esitterle/H2%20Treehugger/IMG00002-20091120-1351.jpg

The pix below are the pix of the mounting system.
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/esitterle/H2%20Treehugger/IMG00152.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/esitterle/H2%20Treehugger/IMG00153.jpg

Keep in mind this is the the prototype and its not yet complete. But VERY close!

splne1

11-22-2009, 01:16 AM

I have to admit you made a believer out of me....that thing looks beastly and now I am very jealous and what one!!!!! Please forgive my stupidity for I do not know!!! LOL Now back to the guard I WANT ONE ASAP!!!:excited:

NJ H2

11-22-2009, 08:29 PM

How sturdy is this guard? It looks tuff but can it handle weight or a tree bump without damage to the hood? :popcorn:

Big.Z.hummin

11-23-2009, 06:25 AM

wow what a POS :jump:

jk bro that thing is the shieeettttttt! sooo badasssss

ROUSHDEMON

11-23-2009, 06:44 AM

wow what a POS :jump:

jk bro that thing is the shieeettttttt! sooo badasssss

HAHAHAhaha, I actually thought you were for real at first... opened my eyes for a lil bit....

Thats awesome.:jump:

HumminNBoatin'

11-23-2009, 04:37 PM

How sturdy is this guard? It looks tuff but can it handle weight or a tree bump without damage to the hood? :popcorn:

You should be easly be able to level 2-3" saplings without so much as blinking. It should be very stout as It is mounted directly too the frame of the truck.

The whole Idea of this guard came to mind when I was riding with Travis at the Kinzalow's event in May this year and he used the guard to pivot the front of his H1 off of a Large (more than 12" dia") tree to make a turn.

Now I am not saying that I am sure I want to try this as I don't know what the frame of the H2 will do. However sooner or later I am sure I will put it to the test lol....

splne1

11-24-2009, 08:18 AM

I want to test it in Virginia Beach Traffic!!! I can't wait to get one and see the reaction to peoples faces when they try to cut me off and I ride there asses!!!!:jump:

HumminNBoatin'

12-02-2009, 07:00 PM

All,

Travis is ready to get started on production. He is taking deposits and trying to get scheduling together. As of now there are basically 4 of these that are already sold.

For availability info, email travis@rubberduck4x4.com or call him at 513-617-0913

Thanks,
Eric

thefinestimage

12-02-2009, 10:20 PM

So this wont mount on the hood at all? Just mounted like the SMA?

HumminNBoatin'

12-03-2009, 01:49 AM

I will not mount to the hood. However it is not like the SMA brush guards either.
The mounting bracket is bolted directly to the frame and radiator core support. The factory plastic valance will act as a cover for the mounting system. from the outside it will look very similar to the old hinged SMA. But the old hinged SMA does not have a mounting system that spans the frame rails etc....

This mounting system is made from 1/4 plate and is extremely rigid. It's literally like adding another cross member to your frame.

thefinestimage

12-03-2009, 02:19 AM

Any updated pics with the plastic valance? Just wondering how it all comes together, as I have the same winch bumper as you. Thanks!

HumminNBoatin'

12-04-2009, 04:22 PM

Not yet. Travis is trying to get scheduling lined up and deposits taken etc... before he takes the time to build out the jig and send the prototype to powder coat etc....

Building the Jig is VERY time consuming. (Takes about two full days of labor to do it correct) And the prototype must be used to build the jig so that these pieces can be reproduced. If you powder coat the piece then build the jig its going to destroy the powder coat on the first piece and you have waisted money.

So before he builds the jig he really needs to hear from you guys directly that you are all committed and what feedback you have. Things like when you would like to expect delivery? What options you guys want etc....?? So if you have not yet reached out to Travis take some time to do so.

thefinestimage

12-07-2009, 01:26 AM

HumminNBoatin'

12-07-2009, 03:44 PM

Any finished pics with yours all together? Still wondering about the "NO" mounting points for the hood area. Seems odd? So the top of the guard won't push into the hood when the front pushes off of a small tree?

I do not have any pix yet. Should be shortly after one more order is in.

The mount for this brush guard is completely rigid as it is mounted to the frame of the truck. There will be no flex to have any contact with the hood. Travis can explain this better than I. Really I guess we should get some better pix of the mount off of the truck so you can see how substantial it is.

splne1

12-24-2009, 05:22 PM

HAHA put in my 50% deposit already!!!!! Can't wait to put that beast on. :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

splne1

12-28-2009, 02:33 PM

DuckTruck

12-28-2009, 05:53 PM

What will one of these bad boys run ya?

DUCK

Hellz

12-28-2009, 06:00 PM

not being a dick, but both look pretty similiar to me.

ya its obvious one made with heavier tubing, but other than that there is just a minor design difference.

timgco

12-28-2009, 06:10 PM

Im so glad I went with Rubber Duck because can you guys believe they want $2050 for this other POS from real wheels!!!:twak: :OWNED:

http://www.trailduty.com/product_info.php?cPath=112_118_50&products_id=220

It's actaully a nice guard. I had one of thier guards, bumper a tree while wheeling and than ran it through the winter/ no rust. They are all Stainless, which is why they are more expensive. ...and they are pretty light weight too.

IMO, with the way this new "tree guard" is designed, the first time you bump one of the corners or square up to something, it's going to "twist" without any other support. I think your hood will be more prone to getting smacked by the guard. I can tell from teh pics that it is more stout thatn the mount on teh SMA guard, but it still looks like teh guard will allow it to twist. How much does the upper portion of it way?

It's too bad travis didn;t come up with a way to support trhough the hood panel with a cross brace under the hood. Than it would have been a TREE GUARD, shpping cart smasher. :fdance:

I thought that was the original plan on this design?

HumminNBoatin'

12-28-2009, 07:28 PM

Hey guys sorry I have been away for the holidays and have not responded. In regards to how a RealWheels might compair to the Treehugger take a look at this email I got from Travis.

Eric,
You may want to wait to post these pictures till after I have something built but I had Scotti send me some pictures of his Real Wheels BG after some "light" off-roading.
I saw that some guys were talking on the Elcova that they felt that the Real Wheels BG was worth the $$ because it is stainless steel.
After viewing the pics below and seeing the BG in person, It's obvious that not only is the mounting system junk but the SS tubing is made from 1/8" (possibly thinner)

http://www.kodakgallery.com/gallery/creativeapps/slideShow/Main.jsp?token=314358564805:408026207

Travis DePew
www.RubberDuck4x4.com
"Don't go in without protection"
(513) 617-0913

Pictures speek 1000 words dont they?? :beerchug:

splne1

12-28-2009, 11:22 PM

Took the words out of my mouth. I forgot to mention that that real wheels tubing diameter is way thinner than Rubber Ducks!! For $2050 you might as well throw in the other 600 and get a roadarmor if you plan on killing cows!! I'm satisfied on the cost of the Rubber duck and the overall build. I know I can't do things now with the predator guard I have!! The minute I got it out of the box it was way to light and I knew that it was only for looks!!! As long as it is an improvement over the current guard I have I am in a win situation with the rubber duck:popcorn: !!

timgco

12-29-2009, 12:55 AM

Hey guys sorry I have been away for the holidays and have not responded. In regards to how a RealWheels might compair to the Treehugger take a look at this email I got from Travis.

Eric,
You may want to wait to post these pictures till after I have something built but I had Scotti send me some pictures of his Real Wheels BG after some "light" off-roading.
I saw that some guys were talking on the Elcova that they felt that the Real Wheels BG was worth the $$ because it is stainless steel.
After viewing the pics below and seeing the BG in person, It's obvious that not only is the mounting system junk but the SS tubing is made from 1/8" (possibly thinner)

http://www.kodakgallery.com/gallery/creativeapps/slideShow/Main.jsp?token=314358564805:408026207

Travis DePew
www.RubberDuck4x4.com (http://www.RubberDuck4x4.com)
"Don't go in without protection"
(513) 617-0913

Pictures speek 1000 words dont they?? :beerchug:

WTH did he hit? and how hard? Whatever he hit, it was hard enough to crack his grille too, so I doubt that whatever he had wouldn't have protected the grille/ hood. So no, 1000 words don;t speak for this photo. It almost looks like he smacked it with a hammer.

When I hit mine, it was more of a scrape, but no denting at all.

HumminNBoatin'

12-29-2009, 03:37 AM

It tore the grill up because its mounted to the hood hinging. The hood hinging is not a good structural support. Scotty was mowing down 2 and 3" diameter saplings.

The RW guard is a nice show piece. But thats about the extent of it. In fact this is not the only RW brushguard I have seen with this damage.

When I get some time I will mow down some serious $hit with it and post vids of it. That should take care of any doubts.

splne1

12-29-2009, 04:56 AM

I'm with you!! I might have to bust out the camera and smack the guard around when I get to Texas.

HumminNBoatin'

12-30-2009, 12:17 AM

What will one of these bad boys run ya?

DUCK

$1600

Crush'em

12-31-2009, 08:29 PM

WTH did he hit? and how hard? Whatever he hit, it was hard enough to crack his grille too, so I doubt that whatever he had wouldn't have protected the grille/ hood. So no, 1000 words don;t speak for this photo. It almost looks like he smacked it with a hammer.

When I hit mine, it was more of a scrape, but no denting at all.

Having wheeled with Scotty several times, his brush guard has definately been used more as a push bar than for light brush and mall shopping carts. Last time, in southern Missori I think it was, he used the RW BG to "push" a fallen tree blocking a road. It was too large for us to move by hand. Might have been 8-10 inches or so in diameter, but most of the tree was on the ground. He moved more than the tree. The BG was mashed against the hood/grill/fenders. I backed into position and pushed the tree with the spare tire carrier (under the tire). Moved the tree fine, and no damage. Had his guard been mounted to the frame horns and had some sort of upper mount, it would have worked. We had to spent some time to pull his guard off of his hood. The thin wall SS is definately at blame, but the mounts of the RW guard are also suspect.

My only hold-up with Travis' new guard is it looks like a rushed job. I feel it doesn't complement the front of the H2 like his H1 guard does... But I'm holding judgement until I see the final product on a customers truck.

DRTYFN

01-04-2010, 06:30 AM

Have fun with the cracked hood. :giggling: :jump:

splne1

01-15-2010, 11:40 AM

Eric you got any pics of yours mounted yet??? Travis told me you also got the light tabs added to the front. I am planning on a light bar up top so no tabs for me.

HumminNBoatin'

03-02-2010, 04:51 PM

Not bad for a rush job lol.
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/esitterle/H2%20Treehugger/CopyofDSCN4468.jpg
And we took into consideration the worries about not having it pinned onto the hood. While most of its structural support comes from the mount that is hidden behind the plastic valance the the hood offers stability. Also during the build process we found that there is a significant amount of steel in the hood. I was able to sit on top of the guard while it was pinned to the hood and the set up showed no signs of distress.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/esitterle/H2%20Treehugger/CopyofDSCN4470.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/esitterle/H2%20Treehugger/CopyofDSCN4469.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/esitterle/H2%20Treehugger/DSCN4474.jpg
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/esitterle/H2%20Treehugger/DSCN4545.jpg