what can go wrong??

[leekyraj2]

hows it going my fellow jeep haters?

i got a dilema here. i just recentley lifted my sut with the fabtech kit everyone here has and put 35 swampers under it.............it looks like $hit. the tires say 35 but this damm truck makes em look like 31's. so im done. im getting a great deal on some tires from someone but the are 39's! i am almost certain that i am gonna have to re gear......should it be a 4.56? if i wait a couple of months will the stock 4.10s be able to hold up? even with wheeling??

:dancingbanana:

[ROUSHDEMON]

who the hell told you; you should put 35s with a 6" Fabtech lift????? 35" is the stock height. I have 38"s just with a Truxx lift. (~3"-4" with keys cranked)
39"s you can deffenitly fit, BUT I wouldn't recommend them for wheeling, you wanna clear those big boys when you full flex, so I would go with 39 of 40s(only with way negative offset wheels) for the street, and 37-38s for offroad.

And get rid of those 35s :raar:

Do you have any pics of the whole truck??? I would like to see how it looks like.

[DuckTruck]

I agree with RD.

I am running 39.5 IROKS on my stock wheels. Thus, I would recommend a 38 if you are mounting them on aftermarket wheels (which you obviously are) or a 39+ if you still had the stock wheels......as offset makes a HUGE difference on what will clear and what won't.

DUCK

[leekyraj2]

i will put up pix real soon. the rims have a 4.5 offset. is this good enough? the tires that im getting a deal on are 39.5 swamper truxs sts. does 1 inch really make a differance? they say 39.5 but the website says 39. the width is 15.2, but on the toyos that alot of people here run are 14.6. once again does .7 of an inch make that big of a deal? and no one ansered me about the gears? what would happen if i ran them for a couple of months without changing grears???

thx all!:excited:

[leekyraj2]

hey duck truck can you post a pix of your truck?

[StockStar]

hows it going my fellow jeep haters?

i am almost certain that i am gonna have to re gear......should it be a 4.56? if i wait a couple of months will the stock 4.10s be able to hold up? even with wheeling??

:dancingbanana:

Here is a gear thread for you:
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39238

[DuckTruck]

hey duck truck can you post a pix of your truck?

I will try to take some and post them soon.

DUCK

[leekyraj2]

did you change your gears??? to what if so???:confused:

[DuckTruck]

Still rollin' on the stock 4.10's.

DUCK

[leekyraj2]

so i tried the 39x 15.5 super swampers and they were just barley wide. i was told by my local 4x4 guy that i can run hub centric spacers. 2 inch wide.......the 39s looked so bad ass, but i dunno about spacers.....n e one????:dancingbanana:

[ROUSHDEMON]

First we need pictures..... and 2nd... You have to remember the offset of your wheels, what offset do you have? with that lift and tire size you wanna be no more than -24mm offset, prefferably in the -44mm to -50mm range in order to clear fine, if not as soon as you turn and flex you will rub.

Spacers.... I wouldn't get anymore than 30mm wide or you're risking them to brake with those super heavy tires, I didn't trust them before to go offroad but when I went to Windrock last year there was an H2 with green keys, 37's and spacers on and he said he never had a problem with them wheeling, never broke in over 3 years, and he went through advanced trails too.

Anyways, ... good stuff! post some pics!

[ROUSHDEMON]

Alright so... I just researched your wheels and if you've got 20" then you're running 20x9 wheels with -12mm offset.... Way wrong with those size tires.
You need at Least a 10" wheel (10-12"), and that offset needs to be at least -24mm or higher.
Spacers might help, but I would get new wider wheels all together, just my two cents.

[leekyraj2]

my wheels are 17x10. and the backspace on it is 4.5.....i can only put pix of what the setup looks like with the 35s cuz i could not drive with the 39s

[HumminNBoatin']

With Stock 4.5" backspacing and a Fabtech 6" lift you should be fine.

I am not a fan of spacers as the H2 already does a good job at eating hubs in stock form. But they are safe to use. Just put more stress on the hubs causing them to wear faster.

The 4:10 gears will hold up fine to larger tires but you going to miss allot of the low end torque you used to have.

My only concern when going to a 39+" tire is axle strength. I have 37's and can easily break a 1/2 shaft when I lay the throttle down.

Alot of the guys i know running tires over 39" always carry spare 1/2 shafts because they break them so often. My other worry is Diff and xfer case damage with tires that big too. I know the drive train on the H2 is stout and on a light weight buggy they would do fine with those big tires. But the H2 is a damn pig lol.

[leekyraj2]

so i am getting these 640 adapters made.....should have them in by wednesday....imma put those 39's and see what i break next. the way i figure if it breaks it needed to be replaced and was to weak for my taste. pix coming soon.

[leekyraj2]

so its finnaly done!! 39s with 2 inch spacers. the kick a$$ factor went through the roof!......just one problem. nobody around here can balance tires this big:mad: ...............so my next obstacle is driving 2 hours at 30mph to the off road shop.:rant:

[NJ H2]

so its finnaly done!! 39s with 2 inch spacers. the kick a$$ factor went through the roof!......just one problem. nobody around here can balance tires this big:mad: ...............so my next obstacle is driving 2 hours at 30mph to the off road shop.:rant:

I have been checking balance masters out for a future mod but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Maybe it's an option for you?
BTW: Nice set up!

http://www.balancemasters.com/hummers/index.html

http://www.balancemasters.com/images/BM-3v2-1_03.jpg

[ROUSHDEMON]

DUde very nice!
Do you have more pics? from the frong, 1/4 shot, etc?

I'd like to see what the spacers do, I have to get new tires soon and I was looking at those spacers.

Congrats!
:beerchug:

[Hummeron37s]

I want to put 38's on my H2 with a Rancho 4" lift but I don't know what rim to get. Right now I have a 20x9 with a 4.5" backspacing and ranchos site say I need 6" backspacing but that is for a 40x13.50x17" tire. What is the offset?

[leekyraj2]

im not sure what you are asking about the backspace since you already know what you have? are you sure about that 6 inch backspace for that kit.....from what i was told i couldnt use humvee wheels because 7 inch backspace messed with steering components? N E who, here are more adapter pix. these are not the cheap billet aluminum type either. These babies are SOLID. i will get more pix of the front and different angles for you guys.

screw jeep!:fdance:

[tomp]

Let us know how many miles you get out of the front hub bearings with those 2" spacers:popcorn:

[ROUSHDEMON]

What kind of Spacers are those then?
Where'd you get them?

[leekyraj2]

sorry took so long to answer......getting deployed sure messes with things you want to get accomplised. anyway the spacers are some heavy duty type of steel. the contct info for the guy that made them for me is:

Fred Goeske
Design Deluxe
21300 Deering court
Canoga Park, CA 91304
Voice (818)992.5700
Fax (818)337.2471
www.wheeladapter.com

the truck is looking badass!:dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

[OrangeCrush]

who the hell told you; you should put 35s with a 6" Fabtech lift????? 35" is the stock height.


AND.... if you actually measure a set of 35's, they are really only 33" tall.

Very few manufacturers make their tires the height designated. Super swampers, etc.. are really what they say they are.

Having said that... I think 39's will be too tall. I don't think they'll fit and I think even with gears, they'll suck.

Just for the record....

4.56 with 38's is the equivalent of factory 33's with 4.10's.

Mark

[leekyraj2]

well just for the "record" the setup has been doing great. a little deflation of the tires and this thing is billygoating through hills. i have the stock 4:10s right now but am going to 4:88s this weekend. i have a set of 38 KM2's that are almost identical in size to the 39s. the 39s are just wider. like it was just said many tire makers claim one size but it really is another. hopefully when i get back from the sandbox i will make a video to show all the doubters what IFS can do with 39s. i had a 76 scout II with straight axles and am not a fan of IFS, but this hummer is proving itself. nothing better than wheeling through some nasty buisness behind a jeep who dosent think the h2 can take.:dancingbanana:

[OrangeCrush]

Oh, I'm sure it will work but I meant for real driving, it will SUCK.

Wait until you drive on the highway driving to maintain 65-70mph. There is no way you'll ever be able to use cruise control again and the tranny will take a beating cause you will be going in and out of overdrive CONSTANTLY.

Driving around town and off-roading, I'm sure it'll work fine.... the gas mileage in town will suck a bit and though it will go through the mud, you'll find you'll do much better with the 88's.

If you get a chance, post some pics, (someone commented but I didn't see them) I'd like to see how it looks with 40's, I'll bet it looks bad ass.

Mark