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Alan06SUT
01-10-2006, 03:04 AM
I am going offraoding with a doctor buddy of mine this weekend. He's got a rubicon w/ a 5.5" rubicon express lift. It should be a fun trip because he, like me, doesnt seem to give a phuk when it comes to testing limits. I will push the envelope but do so without being an idiot. I have taken the h2 (adv pkg stock tires) off road 4 times since i bought it in Sept, but have never really tested it on a side slope. I have a lev-o-guage and want to take it to the limit if presented the opportunity.

At what angle should I take it to on a side slope? I will load the heavy stuff in the bottom of the bed (no stuff on roof).

Also where will I be able to show him up? Or will he leave me in the dust? We are going to NC so it will be rocks w/ mud and some narrow, paint scratching trails I imagine.

Thanks guys.

Alan06SUT
01-10-2006, 03:04 AM
I am going offraoding with a doctor buddy of mine this weekend. He's got a rubicon w/ a 5.5" rubicon express lift. It should be a fun trip because he, like me, doesnt seem to give a phuk when it comes to testing limits. I will push the envelope but do so without being an idiot. I have taken the h2 (adv pkg stock tires) off road 4 times since i bought it in Sept, but have never really tested it on a side slope. I have a lev-o-guage and want to take it to the limit if presented the opportunity.

At what angle should I take it to on a side slope? I will load the heavy stuff in the bottom of the bed (no stuff on roof).

Also where will I be able to show him up? Or will he leave me in the dust? We are going to NC so it will be rocks w/ mud and some narrow, paint scratching trails I imagine.

Thanks guys.

KenP
01-10-2006, 04:17 AM
Tellico?

DRTYFN
01-10-2006, 04:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
Don’t come back and flame me (I like side slopes). 40-45 is ok on a level-o-gauge. 30 will make your ass hurt though http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A 30 side slope starts to make my my butt crack involuntarily chew up my seat cover.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

DRTYFN
01-10-2006, 05:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
LOL, you thought about following me. Oops…http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. 30% is ok, 35 = pucker, 40 = water coming out the washer vent, 45 = wheels off the ground and dirty pisses his pants just watching http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You got that right. I didn't want to see you shoot poop & pee out your window after the first sideways revolution.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ShaggyX
01-10-2006, 02:00 PM
Hearing Drty scream like a little girl brings teh funny. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

PARAGON
01-10-2006, 03:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
LOL, you thought about following me. Oops…http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. 30DEGREES is ok, 35 = pucker, 40 = water coming out the washer vent, 45 = wheels off the ground and dirty pisses his pants just watching http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>corrected so there is no confusion or troll use

Hummer says 40% which is just shy of 23 degrees. But that is with the truck at full GVW. You'll want your seatbelt on at 35 degrees. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

PARAGON
01-10-2006, 04:58 PM
I guess my comment made it sound like you would want your seatbelt on because of flip over. I intended to mean, you want it on because you start sliding out of your seat.
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Alan06SUT
01-10-2006, 10:09 PM
Thanks. That should give me that uneasy feeling im trying to accomplish! I don't think ive gone beyond about 20 deg in the h2 yet.

Yeah I bet the ruby w/ 5.5 in lift would flip (sideways) before I would. What about mud? he is lighter so wont he esentially float better than me? I belive he has 35" tires also.

The way he descibed the area, it sounds like Tellico. I'll find out.

any of you guys wheeled w/ a rubicom before?

Racer-X
01-10-2006, 10:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">What about mud? he is lighter so wont he esentially float better than me? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

With mud you don't want to "float" you want your tire to sink through to solid ground. You prolly got 3K pounds on him. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Alan06SUT
01-10-2006, 10:26 PM
good! I hope there is an opportunity to tow him out, I'll be sure to take many pictures!

DRTYFN
01-10-2006, 10:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShaggyZr2:
Hearing Drty scream like a little girl brings teh funny. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You talking about a screaming girl brings the funnay. Are you going to be in the sequel to 40 Year Old Virgin someday?http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

DRTYFN
01-10-2006, 10:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
LOL, you thought about following me. Oops…http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. 30DEGREES is ok, 35 = pucker, 40 = water coming out the washer vent, 45 = wheels off the ground and dirty pisses his pants just watching http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>corrected so there is no confusion or troll use

Hummer says 40% which is just shy of 23 degrees. But that is with the truck at full GVW. You'll want your seatbelt on at 35 degrees. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why is it that the wussy little 5-10 degree bump at Black Hole feels like 48 degrees?http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif My hands just got sweaty.

Racer-X
01-10-2006, 10:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">good! I hope there is an opportunity to tow him out, I'll be sure to take many pictures! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And post them! theres a bounty on pics like that I hear.

I did take pictures of the front lawn my buddy got his cherokee stuck in last week. The tire pits where he was are less than 2 inches deep. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

PARAGON
01-11-2006, 01:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
LOL, you thought about following me. Oops…http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. 30DEGREES is ok, 35 = pucker, 40 = water coming out the washer vent, 45 = wheels off the ground and dirty pisses his pants just watching http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>corrected so there is no confusion or troll use

Hummer says 40% which is just shy of 23 degrees. But that is with the truck at full GVW. You'll want your seatbelt on at 35 degrees. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why is it that the wussy little 5-10 degree bump at Black Hole feels like 48 degrees?http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif My hands just got sweaty. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>The view of where you would go should that bump suddenly rise up and tip you over.

PARAGON
01-11-2006, 01:33 AM
You have to drive an H2 in the mud completely different than you do a Rubi or something smaller.

Alan06SUT
01-11-2006, 02:45 AM
I took it in deep mud once but went through the same area several times to try and learn how to get through it best. It seemed to be best to stay steady on the throttle and kind of do a controlled slide on through. It was just below my door handles in depth. An H1 got stuck when he tried to baby it through the deep part. I know he could have made it but, he chickened out and we just towed him back and he went around it. Also it seemed like the All Terrans got clogged pretty quickly but keeping them spinning seemed to clean them out somewhat. I look forward to comparing these vehicles. I know one thing, I'll have a much more comfortable ride there and back!

timgco
01-11-2006, 03:00 AM
I just look straight ahead in that spot and pretend it is flat with no 500ft drop 5ft away.

ShaggyX
01-11-2006, 04:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ShaggyZr2:
Hearing Drty scream like a little girl brings teh funny. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You talking about a screaming girl brings the funnay. Are you going to be in the sequel to 40 Year Old Virgin someday?http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hehe...probably.

DRTYFN
01-11-2006, 04:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
LOL, you thought about following me. Oops…http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. 30DEGREES is ok, 35 = pucker, 40 = water coming out the washer vent, 45 = wheels off the ground and dirty pisses his pants just watching http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>corrected so there is no confusion or troll use

Hummer says 40% which is just shy of 23 degrees. But that is with the truck at full GVW. You'll want your seatbelt on at 35 degrees. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why is it that the wussy little 5-10 degree bump at Black Hole feels like 48 degrees?http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif My hands just got sweaty. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>The view of where you would go should that bump suddenly rise up and tip you over. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly!!! And that bump wouldn't even be noticeable somewhere else.

KenP
01-11-2006, 04:49 AM
What bump? Did I drive over that bump?

Well, is it Tellico?

DRTYFN
01-11-2006, 04:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
What bump? Did I drive over that bump?

Well, is it Tellico? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, you rode over it as a passenger...IN A HEEP!!!http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

KenP
01-11-2006, 05:27 AM
The driver was hot. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

h2co-pilot
01-11-2006, 09:20 AM
Awwwwww!!!!http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I think I drove it twice, once in the H2 also. Alec warned me the first time, it wasn't that bad.....wussies!http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

But I do remember looking down and over mouthing "oh shi<span class="ev_code_BLACK">t</span>" and quickly looking forward. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

frank6150
01-11-2006, 11:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
I took it in deep mud once but went through the same area several times to try and learn how to get through it best. It seemed to be best to stay steady on the throttle and kind of do a controlled slide on through. It was just below my door handles in depth. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You drove through a mud hole that was up to your door handles in depth? I'm gonna call bull**** on that one, no way in hell. Maybe you meant water which would be possible but not mud.

ree
01-11-2006, 12:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
bump </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I call disguised pad.

ree
01-11-2006, 12:23 PM
Seriously though, does anyone have a pic from the Moab threads demonstrating said bump or, more importantly, the dropoff hazard?

timgco
01-11-2006, 10:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
Seriously though, does anyone have a pic from the Moab threads demonstrating said bump or, more importantly, the dropoff hazard? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I cannot take credit for these pics. THANKS ALEC! this was on my first trip there.

timgco
01-11-2006, 10:14 PM
It feels waaaaay closer http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

timgco
01-11-2006, 10:14 PM
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timgco
01-11-2006, 10:15 PM
4

timgco
01-11-2006, 10:15 PM
5

timgco
01-11-2006, 10:16 PM
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DRTYFN
01-11-2006, 10:22 PM
My palms are sweating. I hate you.

h2co-pilot
01-11-2006, 11:13 PM
This is the little bump right?

dochummer
01-11-2006, 11:39 PM
I did that right?

ROX
01-12-2006, 12:32 AM
Alec, Whatever. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Yes dochummer! You did that. It's half way thru Hells Revenge.

CP did it twice.

30 degree side slope = questioning your heritage. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Have fun! and make sure the Jeep has nothing to brag about after. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif We wheel with a guy that used to own and H2, but now drives a Rubi, and I'd really love to show him up someday. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif