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crider999
06-15-2011, 03:36 AM
Have a 2005 H2 with 108k, ABS light comes on and TC turns off when you start driving, when you turn it off and restart it, the light is gone, start driving and then its back, I replaced both front wheel speed/ABS sensors and its still doing it, the codes that are coming up are C0245 and C0110, I need to get this figured out if there is any insight someone might have feel free to give me your input!

Thanks

rifsm1
06-15-2011, 11:14 AM
my 2003 did the same and the dealer replaced the right front wheel bearing and that seemed to solve it.

HUMTECH
06-16-2011, 12:24 AM
C0110 ? It is very important that a thorough inspection of the wiring and connectors be performed. Failure to carefully and fully inspect wiring and connectors may result in misdiagnosis, causing part replacement with reappearance of the malfunction. ? Thoroughly inspect any circuitry that may be causing the complaint for the following conditions:
- Backed out terminals
- Improper mating
- Broken locks
- Improperly formed or damaged terminals
- Poor terminal-to-wiring connections
- Physical damage to the wiring harness
? The following conditions may cause an intermittent malfunction:
- A poor connection
- Rubbed-through wire insulation
- A broken wire inside the insulation
? If an intermittent malfunction exists refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=62112&refDoc=1392924&from=sm) .
<A href="#ss8-1392924">Test Description

The number below refers to the step number on the diagnostic table.

Tests the pump motor circuits of the brake pressure modulator valve (BPMV) for a short to the housing of the BPMV. The wiring from the BPMV to the EBCM should not be repaired.
Step
Action
Value(s)
Yes
No
Schematic Reference: Antilock Brake System Schematics
Connector End View Reference: Antilock Brake System Connector End Views (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=946&refDoc=1392924&from=sm)
1
Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle?
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Go to Step 2 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S02)
Go to Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=72794&refDoc=1392924&from=sm)
2

Disconnect the electronic brake control module (EBCM) harness connector.
Connect the J 39700 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showTif.do?image=98818) Universal Pinout Box using the J 39700-530 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/showTif.do?image=647900) Cable Adapter to the EBCM harness connector only.
Test both ground circuits of the EBCM including the EBCM ground for a high resistance or an open. Refer to Circuit Testing (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=62194&refDoc=1392924&from=sm) and Wiring Repairs (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=61965&refDoc=1392924&from=sm).
Test the Battery Positive Voltage circuits for an open, high resistance, or a short to ground. Refer to Circuit Testing (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=62194&refDoc=1392924&from=sm) and Wiring Repairs (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=61965&refDoc=1392924&from=sm).
Did you find and correct the condition?
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Go to Step 8 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S08)
Go to Step 3 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S03)
3
(http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#TD03)
Disconnect the pump motor harness pigtail connector of the brake pressure modulator valve (BPMV).
Measure the resistance between each pump motor control circuit and the housing of the BPMV at the pump motor harness pigtail connector of the BPMV.Does the resistance measure less than the specified value?
5 Ω
Go to Step 4 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S04)
Go to Step 5 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S05)
4
Inspect for poor connections at the pump motor harness pigtail connector of the BPMV. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=62112&refDoc=1392924&from=sm) and Connector Repairs (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=61973&refDoc=1392924&from=sm).
Did you find and correct the condition?
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Go to Step 8 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S08)
Go to Step 6 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S06)
5
Inspect for poor connections at the harness connector of the EBCM. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=62112&refDoc=1392924&from=sm) and Connector Repairs (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=61973&refDoc=1392924&from=sm).
Did you find and correct the condition?
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Go to Step 8 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S08)
Go to Step 7 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S07)
6
Replace the BPMV. Refer to Brake Pressure Modulator Valve Replacement (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=1189&refDoc=1392924&from=sm).
Did you complete the repair?
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Go to Step 8 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S08)
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7
Replace the EBCM. Refer to Control Module References (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=72864&refDoc=1392924&from=sm) for replacement, setup, and programming.
Did you complete the repair?
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Go to Step 8 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S08)
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8

Use the scan tool in order to clear the DTCs.
Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC as specified in the supporting text.Does the DTC reset?
--
Go to Step 2 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S02)
System OK

HUMTECH
06-16-2011, 12:30 AM
DTC C0245
<A href="#ss1-1392930">Circuit Description

The speed sensors used on the front of this vehicle are multiple pole and the rear uses a single pole magnetic pickup. This sensor produces an AC signal that the EBCM uses the frequency from to calculate the wheel speed.
<A href="#ss2-1392930">DTC Descriptor

This diagnostic procedure supports the following DTCs:
DTC C0245 Wheel Speed Sensor Frequency Error
<A href="#ss3-1392930">Conditions for Running the DTC

? The ignition switch is ON.
? The DTC can be set after system initialization.
<A href="#ss4-1392930">Conditions for Setting the DTC

? The electronic brake control module (EBCM) detects a deviation between 2 wheel speeds at either side of the vehicle greater than 6 km/h (3.75 mph) at a vehicle speed of less than 100 km/h (62 mph).
? The EBCM detects a deviation between the left and right front wheel speeds of greater than 10 km/h (6.25 mph) at a vehicle speed of less than 100 km/h (62 mph).
? The EBCM detects a deviation between the left and right front wheel speeds of greater than 4 km/h (2.5 mph) plus 6 percent of the vehicle speed at greater than 100 km/h (62 mph).
This DTC will set when the EBCM cannot specifically identify which wheel speed sensor is causing the malfunction. If the EBCM can identify the specific wheel speed sensor causing the malfunction, DTC C0245 will become a history DTC, and the DTC associated with the sensor DTC C0036, DTC C0041, DTC C0046, DTC C0051, will be set concurrent with DTC C0245.
<A href="#ss5-1392930">Action Taken When the DTC Sets

If equipped, the following actions occur:
? The EBCM disables the antilock brake system (ABS) if the exact fault can be determined and after ABS control has terminated.
? A malfunction DTC will set.
? The ABS indicator turns ON.
? The traction control system (TCS) indicator turns ON.
? The Red BRAKE Warning indicator turns ON.
<A href="#ss6-1392930">Conditions for Clearing the DTC

? The condition for the DTC is no longer present and the DTC is cleared with a scan tool.
? The electronic brake control module (EBCM) automatically clears the history DTC when a current DTC is not detected in 100 consecutive drive cycles.
<A href="#ss7-1392930">Diagnostic Aids

? It is very important that a thorough inspection of the wiring and connectors be performed. Failure to carefully and fully inspect wiring and connectors may result in misdiagnosis, causing part replacement with reappearance of the malfunction.
? Thoroughly inspect any circuitry that may be causing the complaint for the following conditions:
- Backed out terminals
- Improper mating
- Broken locks
- Improperly formed or damaged terminals
- Poor terminal-to-wiring connections
- Physical damage to the wiring harness
? The following conditions may cause an intermittent malfunction:
- A poor connection
- Rubbed-through wire insulation
- A broken wire inside the insulation
? If the customer's comments reflect that the amber ABS/TCS indicator is on only during moist environmental conditions (rain, snow, vehicle wash), inspect all the wheel speed sensor circuitry for signs of water intrusion. If the DTC is not current, clear all DTCs and simulate the effects of water intrusion by using the following procedure:
1. Spray the suspected area with a five percent saltwater solution.
Add two teaspoons of salt to twelve ounces of water to make a five percent saltwater solution.
2. Test drive the vehicle over various road surfaces (bumps, turns, etc.) above 40 km/h (25 mph) for at least 30 seconds.
3. If the DTC returns, replace the suspected harness.
? If an intermittent malfunction exists refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=62112&refDoc=1392930&from=sm) .
<A href="#ss8-1392930">Test Description

The numbers below refer to the step numbers on the diagnostic table.

If DTC C0245 is a history code, this step checks if a specific Wheel Speed Circuit Malfunction DTC is set concurrently with DTC C0245.
<A name=TD07>
This step checks if the wheel speed sensor harness is routed in close proximity to the spark plug wires.
<A name=TD09>
In this step, if the scan tool can record any erroneous wheel speed sensor signals, diagnose that sensors first.

HUMTECH
06-16-2011, 12:31 AM
Step
Action
Yes
No
Schematic Reference: Antilock Brake System Schematics (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=946&refDoc=1392930&from=sm)
Connector End View Reference: Antilock Brake System Connector End Views (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=947&refDoc=1392930&from=sm)
1
Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle?
Go to Step 2 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S02)
Go to Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=72794&refDoc=1392930&from=sm)
2
(http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#TD02)Is the following DTCs set concurrently with a history DTC C0245?
? DTC C0036
? DTC C0041
? DTC C0046
? DTC C0051
Go to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List - Vehicle (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=72795&refDoc=1392930&from=sm)
Go to Step 3 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S03)
3
Inspect the wheel speed sensor (WSS) for physical damage.
Is physical damage of the WSS evident?
Go to Step 4 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S04)
Go to Step 5 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S05)
4
Replace the WSS. Refer to Front Wheel Speed Sensor Replacement (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=1415&refDoc=1392930&from=sm) or Rear Wheel Speed Sensor Replacement (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=1416&refDoc=1392930&from=sm) .
Is the replacement complete?
Go to Step 14 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S14)
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5
Inspect the wiring harness for physical damage.
Is physical damage of the wiring harness evident?
Go to Step 6 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S06)
Go to Step 7 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S07)
6
Repair the wiring harness. Refer to Wiring Repairs (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=61965&refDoc=1392930&from=sm) and Connector Repairs (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=61973&refDoc=1392930&from=sm) .
Is the replacement complete?
Go to Step 14 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S14)
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7
(http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#TD07)Check for proper routing of the wheel speed sensor harness. Check that the wheel speed sensor harness is routed away from the spark plug wires. Refer to Harness Routing Views (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=62033&refDoc=1392930&from=sm) .
Is the wheel speed sensor harness properly routed?
Go to Step 9 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S09)
Go to Step 8 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S08)
8
Reroute the wheel speed sensor harness away from the spark plug wires.
Is the reroute complete?
Go to Step 14 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S14)
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9
(http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#TD09)

Install a scan tool.
Turn the ignition switch to the RUN position.
Set the scan tool to Snap Shot Auto Trigger mode and monitor the wheel speed sensors.
Carefully drive the vehicle above 12 km/h (8 mph) for several minutes.Did the scan tool trigger on any of the wheel speed sensors?
Go to Step 10 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S10)
Go to Step 11 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S11)
10
Note which wheel speed sensor triggered the scan tool. Follow the appropriate Wheel Speed Sensor Malfunction DTC table for the wheel speed sensor that triggered. Refer to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List - Vehicle (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=72795&refDoc=1392930&from=sm) .
Is the repair complete?
Go to Step 14 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S14)
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11

Reconnect all previously disconnected components.
Using a scan tool clear the DTC.
Remove the scan tool from the DLC.
Carefully drive the vehicle above 12 km/h (8 mph) for several minutes.Does the DTC reset as a current DTC?
Go to Step 13 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S13)
Go to Step 12 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S12)
12
Malfunction is intermittent. Inspect all connectors and harnesses for damage that may result in an open or high resistance when connected. Refer to Connector Repairs (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=61973&refDoc=1392930&from=sm) and Wiring Repairs (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=61965&refDoc=1392930&from=sm) .
Is the repair complete?
Go to Step 14 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S14)
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13
Replace the electronic brake control module (EBCM). Refer to Control Module References (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/cellHandler.do?cellId=72864&refDoc=1392930&from=sm) for replacement, setup, and programming.
Is the replacement complete?
Go to Step 14 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S14)
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14

Use the scan tool in order to clear the DTCs.
Operate the vehicle within the conditions for running the DTC as specified in the supporting text.Does the DTC reset?
Go to Step 2 (http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/#S02)
System OK

mxh5210
06-16-2011, 06:26 AM
thanks a lot