My new ride....

[h2co-pilot]

I am a happy girl.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kenny surprised me with a Lexus RX300 yesterday afternoon. I had no idea it was coming. It was soooo sweet.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Here are some pics-

[h2co-pilot]

I am a happy girl.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kenny surprised me with a Lexus RX300 yesterday afternoon. I had no idea it was coming. It was soooo sweet.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Here are some pics-

[h2co-pilot]

Here I am standing next to it:

[Dan]

Nice! Can Ken spill stuff in it?

Speaking of which, is that a Starbucks iced latte on the workbench? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[h2co-pilot]

The interior is really nice- nicer than I thought it would be. Heated seats and all kind of nice stuff.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[h2co-pilot]

Here I am checking the tire pressure:

[h2co-pilot]

It totally matches Pea-Pie and I am going to shop for a basket for her too ride in so she is safe.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[h2co-pilot]

Please don't joke the scars on my face. I got them from saving a povertous african-american family of 27 and 8 stray dogs during Katrina. Thank goodness I had my long hair up in my cowboy hat that day.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[CO Hummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
Here I am standing next to it: </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nice wig.

[CO Hummer]

Did you get permission from Lucifer to use his avatar on your face?

[h2co-pilot]

I have know idea what your talking about.

[ROX]

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/ga/ul/4171096851/inlineimg/Y/jump.gif

Too funnay!

NO Fair! You get to park in the garage! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
Nice blinds on the window, BTW. Nice touch.

[h2co-pilot]

It is my first time parking in there. It really kind of nice.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I really like this car/truck whatever. It will be perfect for me to park etc.

[CO Hummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2 Rocks:
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/ga/ul/4171096851/inlineimg/Y/jump.gif

Too funnay!

NO Fair! You get to park in the garage! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
Nice blinds on the window, BTW. Nice touch. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Leave it to a woman to notice the blinds.

[HummBebe]

Hey!!! You are wearing my shirt!!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Nice job KenP. Congratulations CP, your handbag matches your interior!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[CO Hummer]

Looks more like HI's shirt. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
I < a week that center console will be covered in coffee stains, the passenger side will have empty Starbucks cups on the floor and there will be various bits of broken cell phones laying around http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Yep.

Shouldn't this be in the "Mall Queen" section? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[frank6150]

Slut. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[KenP]

You got my bad side.

[h2co-pilot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frank6150:
Slut. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Get your lipstick away from me.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I thought all girls did that. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/ga/ul/5691075851/inlineimg/Y/omfg1.jpg

Don't hate.

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frank6150:
Slut. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

CLASSIC!!!http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/ga/ul/4161047851/inlineimg/Y/susanani.gif

[devilsfan]

So when's the lift going on, CP? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Stacy

[Dug]

Frank6150 - YOU ARE MY HERO!!!!
LMFAO!!!

[H2Finally]

Nice! Now slap on some blings! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif DO NOW!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[h2co-pilot]

Let's see lift or bling? Maybe both.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Spike]

originally posted by H2CP,
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I am going to shop for a basket for her too ride in so she is safe. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just toss her in one of the vehicle's cup holders. She should be fine in there.

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spike:
originally posted by H2CP,
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I am going to shop for a basket for her too ride in so she is safe. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just toss her in one of the vehicle's cup holders. She should be fine in there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Classic!

[Alan06SUT]

You're bringing it to tellico right? Those are sick of road but many people dont really use them to the full potential. I heard they have weak tie rods though you mught want to be careful if you add 37's. Just a little advice.

[frank6150]

Better take that hand out of your pants before you unleash the entire army of the damned and give everyone in VA a nasty case of crabs! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[h2co-pilot]

Frank! You little turd. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I don't like where that one has it's claw. You just wait Mister. One o' these days.....http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[h2co-pilot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
You're bringing it to tellico right? Those are sick of road but many people dont really use them to the full potential. I heard they have weak tie rods though you mught want to be careful if you add 37's. Just a little advice. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, I have the off-road BIG NASTY for that. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I can't wait! I'm getting excited. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[Boss Hoss]

Ken,
What a sweet move....CP makes you sound like St. Valentine and you get your rig back!

CP, Congrats!!! Its no Hummer but i guess itll do http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[CO Hummer]

What the heck is this?

[h2co-pilot]

How did that get back up front? Evil snake!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif


Okay, I'm sorry for any deceptions I may have created. My real name is Chuck and I am a manager at Be-Lo and that is not my real hair.

I also like long walks on the beach and quiet dinners. I voted for Clinton and listen to Barry Manilow- again, I hope all the normal people on this forum accept my apology.

Chuck

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
How did that get back up front? Evil snake!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif


Okay, I'm sorry for any deceptions I may have created. My real name is Chuck and I am a manager at Be-Lo and that is not my real hair.

I also like long walks on the beach and quiet dinners. I voted for Clinton and listen to Barry Manilow- again, I hope all the normal people on this forum accept my apology.

Chuck </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Mission control, we have a problem.

[Adam^_^]

nice ride, as long as its not the damn hybrid one >_<...

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Adam^_^:
nice ride, as long as its not the damn hybrid one >_<... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hell no, dude. We're burning the fossils! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
I < a week that center console will be covered in coffee stains, the passenger side will have empty Starbucks cups on the floor and there will be various bits of broken cell phones laying around http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>not to mention a turkey from Christmas left under the back seat.

[NJ H2]

Congrats CP! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Maybe Ken should change his name to:
RXco-pilot http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
I < a week that center console will be covered in coffee stains, the passenger side will have empty Starbucks cups on the floor and there will be various bits of broken cell phones laying around http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>not to mention a turkey from Christmas left under the back seat. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You remembered! That was nasty.:barf:

[frank6150]

Nice truck. pad monster!

[GLBLWARMR]

Need to put some TSL super swampers on it and go mudding. Nice ride. Congrats.

[h2co-pilot]

Thanks GLBL and everyone http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I love it. I was driving it around last night and it has those cool white headlights. It is just perfect for me- don't get me wrong, love driving my H2- wheeling it, RAAARRRRing down the streets, but this thing was tailormade for me.

The steering wheel is so soft- it feels like butter- really. It is really tight but not sensitive so it just kind of knows where I want to go with out effort. It really sticks to the road and it is so quiet. It makes me want to drive like an old lady- no rush, just pimpin' slow.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

It is small so it is perfect for me. It is a lot nicer than I expected, I just thought they were cute and would be easier to park.

Kenny is so sweet. Having a car surprise in your driveway for no reason > than all.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
It is really tight but not sensitive so it just kind of knows where I want to go with out effort. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Uhm... my pants are getting tight.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[HGW]

co-pilot:
That Lexus is one of the best cars on the planet! I had a sedan in that style a few years back--never, ever had it to the dealer, except for the free pick up service for maintenance.

Not one fault ever with the car----the American companies can't even compete with the flawless Lexus.

Please take off that mask--I need some more HGW Girls. The rest of you works well.

[PARAGON]

It must me noted that Kenneth made an excellent color choice. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[CO Hummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
It must me noted that Kenneth made an excellent color choice. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good point. He's always in touch with his feminine side.

[h2co-pilot]

Thanks HGW, I really like it. I had heard from others that they had no problems either. I imagine the maintentance is decent too.

I hope you knew that the mask and wig was a parody of recent events.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[frank6150]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
I hope you knew that the mask and wig was a parody of recent events.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Liar. You hid that grill so that I would have less material to work with. No matter, I have your face from other photos. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[HGW]

Co-pilot:
I figured so but I do not keep up with anything thats "inside" on here.

Apply for the HGW Girls http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Marcmedic]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frank6150:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
I hope you knew that the mask and wig was a parody of recent events.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Liar. You hid that grill so that I would have less material to work with. No matter, I have your face from other photos. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Post your work NOW!!!

[frank6150]

Just search for CP's H3 pics, her face is on there.

[Marcmedic]

No photo editing software at work. Once again, bastard computer nerds...

[PARAGON]

pad

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HGW:
Co-pilot:

Apply for the HGW Girls http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>That won't happen. All these "little penised" dog hounds around here... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
It must me noted that Kenneth made an excellent color choice. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good point. He's always in touch with his feminine passenger. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Fizzled.

[Ipedog]

Congratulations CP! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Lets see it with a lift and some Mug Grapplers! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ken is such a nice guy to get you the RX (Read: Ken wanted his H2 back! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

[h2co-pilot]

Thanks Ipe.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HGW:
Co-pilot:
I figured so but I do not keep up with anything thats "inside" on here.

Apply for the HGW Girls http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't think we will ever see 'Hummer Princesses Gone Wild' but I appreciate it.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[TXSUT]

Sorry for the delay, CP, but congrats on the new ride! A very wise decision for that type of vehicle, it should last you many trouble-free miles.

And pardon my moment of man-pigness, but being that this is the first time I see a pic of you, uh...Hubba-Hubba! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

-Pete

[DDWH]

Congrats CP on the new ride!!!!....not sure how I missed this dang thread!

and X2 on what Pete said http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[KenP]

Somebody got rearended today. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[DDWH]

The big truck or the little truck? Everyone okay?

That brings the SUCK! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[TXSUT]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Somebody got rearended today. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who, which vehicle, and most importantly, is everyone okay?

[KenP]

We're fine and were in her new Princess Mobile. Some kid who's here on exile from New Orleans was driving his girlfriend's father's car. He's in Iraq and gets back next month. The kid was very shaken, but uninjured.

Oh, CP's car needs the rear bumper facia replaced. No biggie. The car took it like a champ. Now the Chrysler is a different story. His bumper slid under ours so he needs headlights, grill, bumper cover, hood, radiator, etc. Got it pretty good.

[CO Hummer]

Bummer Ken. Glad you guys are OK. Too bad it wasn't the SUT, that would have made for some great pics with him under your rig.

[Fubar]

man Ken it weren't for bad luck you wouldn't have any. Happy to hear you and CP are ok. Happy to hear the Princess mobile will also be just fine.

[GLBLWARMR]

That sucks. Sorry to hear about it.

[KenP]

It blows, but she loves the car even more now. It took the easily.

[dochummer]

Ouch! Hope you guys are alright. Go see a chiropractor! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

BTW, congrats on the new/damaged vehicle. My wife drives a Toyota Highlander. We've only had 2 recalls which were nothing....other than that, just oil changes and it's still going strong at almost 60k miles...

[Easy Ed]

Glad everyone is okay and her new car will be okay, but so much for her "co-pilot" doing his job, ref,

"Congrats CP! Maybe Ken should change his name to: RXco-pilot"

[CO Hummer]

Woman drivers.....sheesh.

[DDWH]

Glad you all came out unscathed!

[Dug]

Glad your ok.

[PARAGON]

anyone dislocate an elbow? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[CO Hummer]

Walc probably rode in on the back of the ambulance.

[shipbldr]

Glad to hear you are both ok!

Are you going to use this as an opportunity to upgrade to the Dirty Lexus bumper?

[h2co-pilot]

Aw, Thanks guys.http://overtorqued.net/forum/images/smilies/happysad.gif

Walc called me on my cellphone 30 sec. after it happened. How he found my number is a mystery, but he comforted me and told me he would fight for my livelyhood.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I was pretty shaken up, so was the poor guy that hit us. When I saw what his car looked like- I was afraid to get out for awhile. I felt bad for him because of the whole GF father's car thing and the police officer issued him a summons for following too closely. I told him I would be a witness if he fought it. It was no ones fault really.

And no joke, my back hurts. Not bad and I am not that kind of person, I think it was because I saw it coming and tensed up. But all in all, my pretty little SUV really took it well. I feel really safe now.

PS- I had a mocha in the cup holder and didn't spill a drop.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Sewie]

Glad to hear you're both OK. So I guess CP will get the H2 back for a while huh? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[shipbldr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sewie:
Glad to hear you're both OK. So I guess CP will get the H2 back for a while huh? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sometimes I get the feeling that Ken was not meant to drive that truck...

[Boss Hoss]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
Aw, Thanks guys.http://overtorqued.net/forum/images/smilies/happysad.gif

And no joke, my back hurts. Not bad and I am not that kind of person, I think it was because I saw it coming and tensed up. But all in all, my pretty little SUV really took it well. I feel really safe now.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry to hear that...hits close to home as it just happened to my wifey a few weeks back. Shes a tough cookie too and never one to complain but a good car accident can really bend you out of shape.

[h2co-pilot]

Thanks. I remember that Boss. How did the estimate and stuff work out totalled or no?

Alec, I might see one just to see what you guys were talking about. But I think it's fine, I was just thinking of it as a joke to laugh with Kenny on the way home, but then I thought it really kind hurts, it's kinda crackly, but I'm also the type that ponders if I have cancer when I have a bad headache. I am probably just thinking about it you know?http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Boss Hoss]

Not totalled...not even close. The insurance company brought some tool bag out for the intial estimate and he figured around 6k worth of damage--just the HID's and the air bagscost more than that. I think the damage was around 12k. Its at the BMW dealership as we speak and Lisa has a FX35 rental. I really have to drag it out of her but her back and shoulder have been bothering her pretty good. Its all muscular but it takes time to get over--esp if you are like her and have to ALWAYS be on the go.

[frank6150]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Boss Hoss:
I really have to drag it out of her but her back and shoulder have been bothering her pretty good. Its all muscular but it takes time to get over--esp if you are like her and have to ALWAYS be on the go. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know what you mean. It's been a year and a half I think since the woman got in her accident and she still has back and neck problems/pain. I can't even count the number of visits to the chiro and it just won't stop.

I probably should stop punching her in the face though. I don't think it's helping like my dad said it would. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[KenP]

I'm insisting she goes to the doctor, just incase this pain sticks around for a while. We're not interested in making a livelyhood off this (i hate that crap), I just want us covered if this problem persists.

I was in the car and said, "He's gonna hit us!"BAM! I'm fine and no problems. After seeing CP was fine, I was more worried about the kid.

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
And no joke, my back hurts. Not bad and I am not that kind of person, I think it was because I saw it coming and tensed up. But all in all, my pretty little SUV really took it well. I feel really safe now.

PS- I had a mocha in the cup holder and didn't spill a drop.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If it hurts now, it'll really hurt tomorrow. Trust me, been there & done that.

[TXSUT]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
I'm insisting she goes to the doctor, just incase this pain sticks around for a while. We're not interested in making a livelyhood off this (i hate that crap), I just want us covered if this problem persists. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree...it's imperative that she sees a doctor...DO NOW!...and not sign any insurance waivers until she gets a full prognosis. It doesn't take much of a hit to do lasting damage to your back/neck.

I'm as far from sue-happy as they come, but this is exactly what insurance is for. Don't let pride get in the way of common sense.

Damn glad to hear it wasn't any worse.

All my best,

Pete

[HummerNewbie]

CP,

Sorry about your new Princess Mobile but very glad to hear that you and Ken are OK. Go to the doctor as Ken said, just so you are covered.

[Ipedog]

CP -

I'm so sorry to hear about the accident. I'm glad that overall you are okay and the Princess Mobile made it out okay.

Please go to see a doctor about your back. Do not delay, whatever you do. I had an accident as a teen where I hurt my back and ignored the problem. Now that I'm older my body lets me know about that accident every day.

Please go see a doctor.

[ree]

Youch. That sucks. Dinging up a new car sucks royally. I hope you start feeling better really soon.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
...the police officer issued him a summons for following too closely... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't get this. The local LEOs treat rear ending the same way. Isn't it really reckless driving? I mean shouldn't "following too close" be reserved for tailgating? I agree that bumper-to-bumper contact is "too close," but that should be something considered more severe than just tailgating.

[CO Hummer]

CP,
You should definitely see a doc. My mom was in an accident 30 years ago and it didn't see that bad, but she still suffers from neck pain to this day!

[ree]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
Chiropractors and great if you find a good one CP.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

CP, you probably know all this being in the medical field, but I'll voice my opinion for everyones benefit.

If you've got anything more than sore, pulled muscles, such as pain, tingling, or numbness in limbs or digits, then you're best off seeing a neurosurgeon that does back stuff. Some specialize in vascular and other non-back/neck-disk issues. But most do work with injuries to the spinal column and specifically disk herniations in this type of accident.

They're do the appropriate type of MRIs and can see specifically what kind of damage there is to the the spinal canal and, if they're any good, can assess whether you can get by with steriodal packs to manage inflamation, traction to aid in repositioning of disks, and even surgery to trim disks that are pooching into the spinal canal, or removal and fusing if the damage is too great.

Of course, if the injury is minor, a good chiropracter who really understands the nervous system can treat you with physical therapy to help get a disk reseated. And there are good family practice docs that can do this too. But I think you're better off going to a neurosurgeon. They, like many other surgical specialists, are usually very proficient at reading the radiology films themselves, whereas a general practitioner is going to be relying on inferior [not bad, but not great] reports from radiology services that are often off-shore subcontracted.

That being said, these docs see TONS of disability related cases. So if you do go to see one for an accident related injury, try not to be whiny about it. They'll treat you, but they get really sick of dealing with the lazy whiny blame-other victims that plague our society.

DISCLAIMER: I've got a neurosurgeon in the family. I'm not trying to drum up business. I'm just trying to point out the added services they may provide over other types of health care providers. And having had some disk issues in my neck, having access to the knowledge and expertise of a neurosurgeon versus the info provided by general practitioners has paid off greatly for me.

[h2co-pilot]

Thanks Daddies.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I may see my GP by the end of the week if a problem persists- I promise. You guys are really sweet btw and you know I love you for it.http://smilies.vidahost.com/otn/love/luxlove.gif

Yeah Ree, if I do have a problem I would probably go to a specialist of that sort. But I really think I am fine, I just tensed up and was kinda shocked. I get scared easily and don't like loud noises.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[CO Hummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
Chiropractors and great if you find a good one CP.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

CP, you probably know all this being in the medical field, but I'll voice my opinion for everyones benefit.

If you've got anything more than sore, pulled muscles, such as pain, tingling, or numbness in limbs or digits, then you're best off seeing a neurosurgeon that does back stuff. Some specialize in vascular and other non-back/neck-disk issues. But most do work with injuries to the spinal column and specifically disk herniations in this type of accident.

They're do the appropriate type of MRIs and can see specifically what kind of damage there is to the the spinal canal and, if they're any good, can assess whether you can get by with steriodal packs to manage inflamation, traction to aid in repositioning of disks, and even surgery to trim disks that are pooching into the spinal canal, or removal and fusing if the damage is too great.

Of course, if the injury is minor, a good chiropracter who really understands the nervous system can treat you with physical therapy to help get a disk reseated. And there are good family practice docs that can do this too. But I think you're better off going to a neurosurgeon. They, like many other surgical specialists, are usually very proficient at reading the radiology films themselves, whereas a general practitioner is going to be relying on inferior [not bad, but not great] reports from radiology services that are often off-shore subcontracted.

That being said, these docs see TONS of disability related cases. So if you do go to see one for an accident related injury, try not to be whiny about it. They'll treat you, but they get really sick of dealing with the lazy whiny blame-other victims that plague our society.

DISCLAIMER: I've got a neurosurgeon in the family. I'm not trying to drum up business. I'm just trying to point out the added services they may provide over other types of health care providers. And having had some disk issues in my neck, having access to the knowledge and expertise of a neurosurgeon versus the info provided by general practitioners has paid off greatly for me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Are you trying to drum up business for your family?

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
Chiropractors and great if you find a good one CP.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

CP, you probably know all this being in the medical field, but I'll voice my opinion for everyones benefit.

If you've got anything more than sore, pulled muscles, such as pain, tingling, or numbness in limbs or digits, then you're best off seeing a neurosurgeon that does back stuff. Some specialize in vascular and other non-back/neck-disk issues. But most do work with injuries to the spinal column and specifically disk herniations in this type of accident.

They're do the appropriate type of MRIs and can see specifically what kind of damage there is to the the spinal canal and, if they're any good, can assess whether you can get by with steriodal packs to manage inflamation, traction to aid in repositioning of disks, and even surgery to trim disks that are pooching into the spinal canal, or removal and fusing if the damage is too great.

Of course, if the injury is minor, a good chiropracter who really understands the nervous system can treat you with physical therapy to help get a disk reseated. And there are good family practice docs that can do this too. But I think you're better off going to a neurosurgeon. They, like many other surgical specialists, are usually very proficient at reading the radiology films themselves, whereas a general practitioner is going to be relying on inferior [not bad, but not great] reports from radiology services that are often off-shore subcontracted.

That being said, these docs see TONS of disability related cases. So if you do go to see one for an accident related injury, try not to be whiny about it. They'll treat you, but they get really sick of dealing with the lazy whiny blame-other victims that plague our society.

DISCLAIMER: I've got a neurosurgeon in the family. I'm not trying to drum up business. I'm just trying to point out the added services they may provide over other types of health care providers. And having had some disk issues in my neck, having access to the knowledge and expertise of a neurosurgeon versus the info provided by general practitioners has paid off greatly for me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>WRONG WRONG WRONG http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Don't see a neurosurgeon. All they want to do is cut. See a neurologist first and then get a referral to surgeon, if needed.

[Albie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
What the heck is this? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

dman that was funny........



http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/ga/ul/2491077851/inlineimg/Y/CP_Bulge.JPG

[ree]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
Are you trying to drum up business for your family? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif If you want to make the drive, feel free.

[KenP]

Ree, nice disclaimer.

Someone was out dusting the princess mobile last night. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[ree]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
WRONG WRONG WRONG http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Don't see a neurosurgeon. All they want to do is cut. See a neurologist first and then get a referral to surgeon, if needed. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That actually is a valid issue.

Many surgeons only want to cut, or only know how to help by cutting. I know a bunch who are ethical enough to try other things and/or tell you they can't help you if they think they can't. And a good neurosurgeon has a larger repertoire than a neurologist; but not necessarily the best judment on how to utilize it http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

It's your body, ask questions, make sure that you try physical therapy and and medicinal treatments before taking the surgery plunge. A lot of people who have surgery for pain, find that it doesn't help them a lot.

A lot of wusses probably have mild to moderate pain that they think is excruciating and can't live with without trying surgery.

Sometimes you are just too f*c*ed up to be fixed no matter what the treatment http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[H2Buff]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:


If it hurts now, it'll really hurt tomorrow. Trust me, been there & done that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats not a Daytona is it?

[CO Hummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:

If it hurts now, it'll really hurt tomorrow. Trust me, been there & done that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The horse didn't feel all that good either.

[KenP]

I think the horse liked it, but the butt buddy didn't.

[dochummer]

My 2 cents. You need to see your PCP first. They are the portal of entry people and should know how to handle an motor vehicle collision case. A good PCP (either an MD or DC (chiropractor)) will know when to send you for second opinions etc... If you go directly to a neurologist or a neurosurgeon, chances are they will not know how to handle the case properly, or will not want to do it at all. If you go the MD route, make sure you find one that will try alternative therapy first, i.e. physical therapy, massage therapy, chiropractic etc... drugs are an option, but should only be used when necessary. If you're concerned that the physician won't know how to read an MRI properly, then make sure you are referred to a neurologist to double check things. You shouldn't need to see a neurosurgeon unless all other efforts have failed. They'll tell you if you need surgery or not. If not, then they won't do much else...

[CO Hummer]

A little PCP will go a long way.

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
A little PCP will go a long way. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I got a roll of stamps from the post office.

[CO Hummer]

I think CP should see a hypnotist.

[ree]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dochummer:
My 2 cents. You need to see your PCP first. They are the portal of entry people and should know how to handle an motor vehicle collision case. A good PCP (either an MD or DC (chiropractor)) will know when to send you for second opinions etc... If you go directly to a neurologist or a neurosurgeon, chances are they will not know how to handle the case properly, or will not want to do it at all. If you go the MD route, make sure you find one that will try alternative therapy first, i.e. physical therapy, massage therapy, chiropractic etc... drugs are an option, but should only be used when necessary. If you're concerned that the physician won't know how to read an MRI properly, then make sure you are referred to a neurologist to double check things. You shouldn't need to see a neurosurgeon unless all other efforts have failed. They'll tell you if you need surgery or not. If not, then they won't do much else... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Very reasonable. I guess I should have prefaced my original post with something like "Be aware that you have more options than the chiropractor or GP" Some people go to the doctor without any good idea of what possible further levels of specialization are reasonable and just blindly trust what their GP does. You've got to know your options and keep any eye out for your own health.

[PARAGON]

"Sometimes you are just too f*c*ed up to be fixed no matter what the treatment" = ME http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[dochummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dochummer:
My 2 cents. You need to see your PCP first. They are the portal of entry people and should know how to handle an motor vehicle collision case. A good PCP (either an MD or DC (chiropractor)) will know when to send you for second opinions etc... If you go directly to a neurologist or a neurosurgeon, chances are they will not know how to handle the case properly, or will not want to do it at all. If you go the MD route, make sure you find one that will try alternative therapy first, i.e. physical therapy, massage therapy, chiropractic etc... drugs are an option, but should only be used when necessary. If you're concerned that the physician won't know how to read an MRI properly, then make sure you are referred to a neurologist to double check things. You shouldn't need to see a neurosurgeon unless all other efforts have failed. They'll tell you if you need surgery or not. If not, then they won't do much else... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Very reasonable. I guess I should have prefaced my original post with something like "Be aware that you have more options than the chiropractor or GP" Some people go to the doctor without any good idea of what possible further levels of specialization are reasonable and just blindly trust what their GP does. You've got to know your options and keep any eye out for your own health. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

agree. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[dochummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
"Sometimes you are just too f*c*ed up to be fixed no matter what the treatment" = ME http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

x2 http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[ratesguy]

H2 Co-Pilot. Wow! New princess mobile and accident all at once? So sorry and hope you are OK. About the princess-mobile. I am looking for a used RX300 for my daughter. Nice,safe,not too small, and pretty reasonable maintenance expenses. Since I anticipate fender-benders with the new driver (hopefully not bad) any info on repair costs would be appreciated. OBTW, soak in a hot epson salt bath and take aleve. If not better in a short while see the doc. Okay see him now but also do above. It will help.

[KenP]

It appears just the rear bumper cover needs to be replaced. He didn't hit us that hard because the nose of his car slid under our bumper. Sales mgr said about a grand to fix it. We'll have a more solid number Thursday.

[ratesguy]

Thanks

[h2co-pilot]

Rates, your daughter will love it.

My thought when I was thinking of what car to get was based on luxury, gas mileage and maintenance cost. I had a used Toyota Tercel when I was in college and it never let me down, and I still see the same model and year buzzing around town. The cost for service/parts/repair is very agreeable- and I really love the look of it. And the inside- ahhhhhhh.

Now, I know that it is safe too and I know that it would be a concern pondered in getting something for her.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif